AMERICAblog: Foreign trip gives Obama initial bump in the polls
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
And when is the MSM going to stop using "commander in chief" for president? This is being used to point out Obama's lack of "military experience" and tout McBush's, most of which was failed. After all, Obama didn't cost the US govt all those millions crashing jet after jet after jet after jet after graduating at the near bottom of his college career.
CiC is simply one small part of the job, after all, and a role most of us hope a president will never have to assume, unless he or she sets up conditions for it. Sound familiar?
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
B-b-but the MSM punditry is telling us that real Americans won't cotton to this elitist smartypants gallivantin' around the world when they have needs at home that Obama is ignoring. And then he made that career-ending gaffe of not visiting the wounded troops and went to the gym instead--and real Americans don't work out. Only elitist yoga-class attending, latte-sipping, Volvo drivers do. Going to the Sausage Haus and Fudge Haus keeps McCain keep it real! See, he eats unhealthy but delicious food like sausage and fudge, just like real, hard-working Americans do!
lynchie
· 1 year ago
I have just spent 45 minutes cruising the news shows. There is not an inch of difference on these shows, from CNN, FOX, CBS, ABC, NBC. they all repeat the same talking points, Obama an elitist, Obama should have visited the soldiers, Obama had no right to speak in Germany (he is not JFK or Regan), Obama is acting too presidential, Obama will not support Israel if they do something the rest of the world doesn't like. Why can't they all be honest and say it---there is no way a black man is going to lead this country and we will continue to hammer home Rove's talking points so all Americans stay with McCain. Is it any wonder we lead the world in only two things, # of people in jail (2,000,000) and lowest IQ required to cast a vote (25).
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
I'm going to violate my boycott of talking heads shows and watch Obama on MTP...we'll see how "objective" the questions are, and even if they're the least bit "fair" Brokaw will be seen as "liberal" and catering to Obama anyway.
Not that he, or NBC, is even close.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
report back would you O&W? i don't use tv for anything but netflix...
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
From where I sat, Brokaw did lob the usual memes floating around this week (the "surge" question, Germany, etc.) but Obama handled them deftly, with humor and a smile on his face. Brokaw still kept trying...
lynchie
· 1 year ago
Here is how Big Business makes it CEO's pay the price for poor performance.
I do have to relunctantly give Mrs. Greenspan props for being the first (and probably only) reporter to say that the Pentagon called off Obama's visit to the troops in Germany.
Not that she doesn't whore for McCain most other times.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
And, by the way, that was pretty annoying hearing that "no bump" B.S. at the beginning of last week.
These idiots acted like the American Public follows this stuff in real time.
Here's a clue, media gurus:
Most low-info voters (which means most US voters, period) didn't even realize Obama was out of the country until they saw it on the news Monday evening.
Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas
· 1 year ago
OT but related to who we are and where we are. Last week our local Target had a great sale on plaid summer cotton shorts. They are so comfortable and they have that sorta wrinkled searsucker look and feel. Well they were on sale for like eight bucks so if the shoe fits, buy it in every color. Well I bought six pair.
So today I am doing laundry and I read the label... MADE IN VIETNAM
And I froze. And i thought....wait a fucking minute....52,000 dead American kids, many of them my HS buddies, and now we just do business as usual with this country??????? And that war was all about being able to sell Coca Cola in Indochina and the myth of domino theory and all that shit that we got fed and ate from the MIC (Military Industrial Complex)....
And as I added some soap to the washer, Pete Seeger popped into my head... WHEN WILL THEY EVER LEARN?
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
And, by God, if we keep our troops in Iraq, some day you'll be able to buy Iraqi knock-off shorts too!
God Bless America!
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
Welcome to the Global Economy, BQiD! And you can also marvel at the low wages of the Vietnamese women who were paid 25 cents an hour to sew the shorts. (BTW, Marx got it all wrong, alas).
Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas
· 1 year ago
i wish i hadn't bought them...will check label next time
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
Good luck finding any factory-made garments sewn in America. Even the "made in USA" labels should be assumed to indicate sweat shops in offshore territories like Guam and the Marshall Islands. Do you have a bespoke tailor there in Plano? If so, he's your only recourse...
Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas
· 1 year ago
so very true....and so sad...but i spose made in usa would mean $100 for the shorts.
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
McCain is running a very negative ad in Colorado. It basically states Obama had too much gym time and that is why he refused to visit the wounded soldiers in Germany. Just curious, it this ad running in other states?
Remember this from the king of flip-flops "I am not going to run a negative campaign". Just add another flip-flop to his resume.
dad
· 1 year ago
same. old. mccain.
mrs. greenspan = tales from the crypt
GrMtGirl
· 1 year ago
I feel the major benefit that all of the countries visited received is : "WOW, A MAN THAT IS CAPABLE OF TALKING ON MULTIPLE SUBJECT MATTER WITH INTELLIGENCE!" Raised national confidence will eventually feed domestic opinion . . . it's all very encouraging.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Then countries visited will see us revert to form and elect the geriatric idiot instead.
(Sorry, bad mood today.)
dad
· 1 year ago
Looking back now, we can see that the fortnight preceding the candidate’s flight to Kuwait was like a sequence in an old movie where wind blows away calendar pages to announce an epochal plot turn. First, on July 7, the Iraqi prime minister, Nuri al-Maliki, dissed Bush dogma by raising the prospect of a withdrawal timetable for our troops. Then, on July 15, Mr. McCain suddenly noticed that more Americans are dying in Afghanistan than Iraq and called for more American forces to be sent there. It was a long-overdue recognition of the obvious that he could no longer avoid: both Robert Gates, the defense secretary, and Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, had already called for more American troops to battle the resurgent Taliban, echoing the policy proposed by Mr. Obama a year ago.
On July 17 we learned that President Bush, who had labeled direct talks with Iran “appeasement,” would send the No. 3 official in the State Department to multilateral nuclear talks with Iran. Lest anyone doubt that the White House had moved away from the rigid stand endorsed by Mr. McCain and toward Mr. Obama’s, a former Rumsfeld apparatchik weighed in on The Wall Street Journal’s op-ed page: “Now Bush Is Appeasing Iran.”
Within 24 hours, the White House did another U-turn, endorsing an Iraq withdrawal timetable as long as it was labeled a “general time horizon.” In a flash, as Mr. Obama touched down in Kuwait, Mr. Maliki approvingly cited the Democratic candidate by name while laying out a troop-withdrawal calendar of his own that, like Mr. Obama’s, would wind down in 2010. On Tuesday, the British prime minister, Gordon Brown, announced a major drawdown of his nation’s troops by early 2009.
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
to maintain his advantage, obama needs to get his answer straight on the "surge", and stop evading. the answer is that the 'success" of the surge is a tribute to hundreds of thousands of the best soldiers, marines and airmen in the world. but there has been no strategic success. opposition to the surge did not express a lack of confidence that there would be an effect of some kind. opposition to the surge was simply opposition to extending our occupation of a foreign country at enormous expense while our national interests lay elsewhere. bush and mccain showed poor strategic judgment and, in the context of strategy, the success of the surge is irrelevant. obama is a smart guy. but he could have ended this discussion a long time ago with a smart answer.
dad
· 1 year ago
the answer is: we didn't send 20,000 - we sent 60-70,000 troops.
then follow with: is the failure in afghanistan attributable to the surge? is the failure of the US economy attributable to the surge? is the instability of the oil markets attributable to the surge?
liberaldemdave
· 1 year ago
hammer, meet nail.
great comment, dad!
dad
· 1 year ago
largest lead to date
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
he's not only looking presidential, he's thinking, speaking and being presidential and he's not even trying.
there's your trouble, McRove. you got nothing.
mellowjohn
· 1 year ago
btw, as i recall the last american president to really act as commander-in-chief was james madison when the british invaded washington during the war of 1812.
jr
· 1 year ago
"you can always be my commander in chief"-Jonathan Chait to McCombover
shanobama
· 1 year ago
McCain had another bar-b-que last night at the Oak Creek 'ranch'. (sorry, but 13 acres does not seem like a ranch to me. When it costs a million an acre I would think 'estate' would be a better description)
I guess the corporate msm got their talking points and a stiff drink....
Plisko
· 1 year ago
I find it amazing. There's Obama, confirming Americas greatness. . . proving that even people in foreign countries will flock in hundreds of thousands to a speech by someone representing our country. There he is making America look like a shining city on a hill again. . . and all the conservatives can do is badmouth him for petty political points.
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CiC is simply one small part of the job, after all, and a role most of us hope a president will never have to assume, unless he or she sets up conditions for it. Sound familiar?
Not that he, or NBC, is even close.
i don't use tv for anything but netflix...
http://www.salon.com/comics/opus/2008/07/27/opu...
Not that she doesn't whore for McCain most other times.
These idiots acted like the American Public follows this stuff in real time.
Here's a clue, media gurus:
Most low-info voters (which means most US voters, period) didn't even realize Obama was out of the country until they saw it on the news Monday evening.
So today I am doing laundry and I read the label...
MADE IN VIETNAM
And I froze. And i thought....wait a fucking minute....52,000 dead American kids, many of them my HS buddies, and now we just do business as usual with this country??????? And that war was all about being able to sell Coca Cola in Indochina and the myth of domino theory and all that shit that we got fed and ate from the MIC (Military Industrial Complex)....
And as I added some soap to the washer, Pete Seeger popped into my head...
WHEN WILL THEY EVER LEARN?
God Bless America!
for the shorts.
Remember this from the king of flip-flops "I am not going to run a negative campaign". Just add another flip-flop to his resume.
mrs. greenspan = tales from the crypt
"WOW, A MAN THAT IS CAPABLE OF TALKING ON MULTIPLE SUBJECT MATTER WITH INTELLIGENCE!"
Raised national confidence will eventually feed domestic opinion . . . it's all very encouraging.
(Sorry, bad mood today.)
On July 17 we learned that President Bush, who had labeled direct talks with Iran “appeasement,” would send the No. 3 official in the State Department to multilateral nuclear talks with Iran. Lest anyone doubt that the White House had moved away from the rigid stand endorsed by Mr. McCain and toward Mr. Obama’s, a former Rumsfeld apparatchik weighed in on The Wall Street Journal’s op-ed page: “Now Bush Is Appeasing Iran.”
Within 24 hours, the White House did another U-turn, endorsing an Iraq withdrawal timetable as long as it was labeled a “general time horizon.” In a flash, as Mr. Obama touched down in Kuwait, Mr. Maliki approvingly cited the Democratic candidate by name while laying out a troop-withdrawal calendar of his own that, like Mr. Obama’s, would wind down in 2010. On Tuesday, the British prime minister, Gordon Brown, announced a major drawdown of his nation’s troops by early 2009.
then follow with:
is the failure in afghanistan attributable to the surge?
is the failure of the US economy attributable to the surge?
is the instability of the oil markets attributable to the surge?
great comment, dad!
there's your trouble, McRove. you got nothing.
I guess the corporate msm got their talking points and a stiff drink....
Why do they hate America?