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AMERICAblog: Fourth of July Open Thread

  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    Red, white and blue. The red is Mars for blood shed by patriots, the white symbolizes the moon and the blue is Jupiter. The Founding Fathers picked those colors for that reason.
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    When I was in fourth grade long ago the teacher said that Betsy Ross just rearranged the colors and stripes of the Union Jack with no references to symbolism, occult or apparent.
  • dad · 1 year ago
    "Our liberty cannot be guarded but by the freedom of the press, nor that be limited without danger of losing it." --Thomas Jefferson
  • dad · 1 year ago
    "The only security of all is in a free press. The force of public opinion cannot be resisted when permitted freely to be expressed. The agitation it produces must be submitted to. It is necessary, to keep the waters pure." --Thomas Jefferson
  • TheOriginalLiz · 1 year ago
    The founding fathers saw and warned of the potential pitfalls and here we have happily walked right into what Jefferson feared. The nation was founded based on the principles of The Enlightenment, it's fallen based on the principles of fear and superstition and greed. What a morality tale we will be for future generations.
  • dad · 1 year ago
    "The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood." --Thomas Jefferson
  • cosanostradamus · 1 year ago
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    Ah, yes. This is from the days before the Patriot Acts, I assume? Quaint. But of course, everything has changed since 9/11. Just ask the Justices of the Supreme Court, who recently rolled us back to 1065AD; you know, before those awful juries started deciding everything. Ugh, commoners!:

    "JUDGES CHOP OFF OWN RIGHT HAND"
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  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    Well, Christy Brinkley coming up next on GMA and then some cooking chefs. I like the cooking but it's always what you can't really afford.
  • cosanostradamus · 1 year ago
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    TV Guide says Chisty will be roasting her husband's nuts.

    Nuts aren't expensive, are they?

    Well, maybe in this case...
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  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    It's going to take for the wingnuts and fundies to shoot each other and die of starvation before we can bring the country back to those ideals.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    After the wingnuts die of starvation and buzzards pecking their eye sockets and coreing out their bungholes to reach to softer bits, our long national nightmare will be over.
  • doug · 1 year ago
    A People's History of American Empire by Howard Zinn
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftpqALvXjO0
  • Bobby · 1 year ago
    Just 200 more days until this abominable President and his cabal of thugs leave for good!

    Hooray!
  • stranded · 1 year ago
    And then we get a new crop. Yay!
  • 1billinnj2 · 1 year ago
    if obama wants to save face then he has to get senator harry reid to pull the FISA BILL from being voted on. it is that simple. senator harry reid is a republican lite and would not do this. play it up and put pressure on reid to pull the bill.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Too bad Jefferson wasn't thinking about women and slaves (Sally Hemmings comes to mind, for example) when he posited these ideas.

    Meanwhile, Bush tours the damage he's done to the US...

    http://www.theonion.com/content/video/bush_tour...
  • TheOriginalLiz · 1 year ago
    I guess there is a limit to how forward even a forward thinker like Jefferson could think. Even today we haven't come to terms with those issues.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Yes, I was thinking if the "founding fathers" had been truly forward thinking, we might have done rather much better these 250 years past. But, with basically white males ruling everything during our history (and I blame it on the mindset of these "superiors"), everyone else has had to humble themselves to the crumbs left from the pie. I mean even England, which had tried to pass anti-slavery legislation in 1776 and finally succeeded in 1809, and France, which had outlawed it earlier, did better than the US, which didn't officially outlaw slavery until the 13th amendment was passed.
  • nsr · 1 year ago
    At least he put his life on the line to back what he believed in. Leahy, Conyers, Reid, Pelosi, et al, should be ashamed of themselves. They're going to let Bush get away with cheating his way into the WH twice and lying us into a war that's ruining the economy. They know what he's doing is against the constitution, and they refuse to uphold the oath they took when they were sworn into office to defend it.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    I saw my orange and black Halloween cat last night. She had jumped to the top of a chain link fence. and was sitting there. That's crazy. I've never seen a cat do that before. Anyway, went and got some cheddar cheese and ice cream for her from the company fridge. She really liked the ice cream. I petted her for awhile and when I came back later, the cheese was gone, too.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    Well, it looks like I'm going to get her. I'm pretty sure it's a her. Pay basically $500 for a cat with the deposit and then another hundred for the vet to have her checked out, but she's just too unusual. I'll get her tonight. Swing by Walmart for litters and box. Sheesh.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    I'm poor and can't afford it but I will do this.
  • bill__free · 1 year ago
    Just passing on some info about a litter box. My daughter has a cat and she got the electric cat box (it had a rake in it that starts minutes after the cat does its business). I think it cost her under $150. She has had it for about 3 years and loves it. You have to get the good litter, but the box ends up using less litter and it ends up costing about the same. It has plastic trays to catch the waste and can run into some money, but if you line the tray with a small disposable bag you can reuse it (the tray). Otherwise I think they cost about $10 to $12 per box of 10 plastic trays. I think she replaces the trays weekly (she refuses to use a liner, thats my idea) and gives a complete cleaning about every 2-4 months. I am guessing on the time of the complete cleaning. Also she comes home (to Illinois) from California for visits of 4 to 6 days and the litter box works fine while she is gone. I can't believe I am posting about this.
    By the way she had a neighbor that looks in on her cat daily.
    LOL

    Happy 4th everyone.
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    Well the crowd is arriving. Had my first beer at 8:45. A day to remember why we love America. What are you all doing today? For us looks like 45 adults and kids, burnt meat, tired kids, listen to some 80's music especially Neil Young, Eagles and Journey light the bonfire and look at the rockets red glare, hope for the future and forget the past 7 and a half years.
  • Ben Dover · 1 year ago
    What a quaint and incredibly cute post.

    Fortunately, we no longer have to abide by such lofty principals and ideals. No. We now have the Patriot Act(s), Protect America Act and the Military Commissions Act to guide and direct us to becoming good, loyal and faithful citizens of the Homeland.
    And to make it easier to ferret out the traitors among us (and you know who you are) we are allowing, to thunderous applause, the gutting of that silly old Bill of Rights. Especially that dangerous Fourth Amendment that wouldn't allow our government to keep an eye on all of us so we would not be able to rise against them.
    And I am so proud that Obama made the brave decision to go-with-the-flow for maintaining the status quo just so he could get elected. I'm so proud that he stood up to those that expected more and better government and made the critical decision that it is far more important to get elected than to stand up for the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and each and every citizen.

    Almost brings a tear to my eye to be American today.
  • prochoicelib · 1 year ago
    holly cow! That list is what a lot or current King George has been doing in Iraq!
  • cosanostradamus · 1 year ago
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    Just goes to show you the benefits of a good education.

    Harvard AND Yale!

    They must be so proud.
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  • CDS2 · 1 year ago
    Great to see the Declaration of Independence posted. Thanks.
  • dad · 1 year ago
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    Sadly, Prudence no longer dictates. She's cowering under the bed in fear of Communists and Terrorists.
    Happy Independence Day, Prudence! Now get a grip!
  • Bobby · 1 year ago
    It was a year ago when President Chucklenutz commuted Scooter Libby's sentence. Keith Olbermann was so outraged that he called for the Chimp to resign.

    Ah, good times.....
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    bitch bitch bitch
  • dad · 1 year ago
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    Seriously, let's try to have some enjoyment and celebration today. I'm trying to be upbeat but all this negativity.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    What I'm going to do today? Drink some cold ones and grill some pork ribs. Couldn't resist. They were $6 a slab at Brookshires and chat with y'all.
  • heathwood · 1 year ago
    America's favorite holiday: a time to get all liquored up and handle high explosives.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    Halloween is my favorite holiday.
  • Bobby · 1 year ago
    Did anyone read Barack Obama's interview in Rolling Stone? Good stuff.....
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Typical news from Nebraska...ground beef being recalled for e coli...affected states include Michigan and Ohio (and where else?).

    Enjoy those burgers...I'll make do with my Grillers soyburger.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Protestors shouting out Bush at Monticello on MSNBC...now, that is what the US is all about. Stop the tyranny! Reclaim our freedoms!
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    OK, this is my plan for later tonight: I've got a cardboard box and tape. The cat is used to me now although I haven't picked her up and she's still skitish but loves to be petted and have human/cat contact. So I pick her up and place her in the box. So then she's taped up in the cardboard box. I have to put her in my truck and then I have to go by Walmart tomorrow morning and get the litter box and litter and some dried food for her. Then come back here and turn her loose in my apartment. I guarantee, she'll immediately flee to underneath this bed. Then Tuesday, I will take her to the vet to have everything done in the same cardboard box if I can get her. She's going to be totally freaked but what can you do. I just signed a lease for another 6 months and she can't stay there where I work anymore because she wont live. I thought I could leave sooner. She's just too goofy. The other cats will kill her or the wild skunks which are all over the place there will.
  • Dianne_in_DC · 1 year ago
    Good luck with her. You're a saint.
  • Melanie_Denise · 1 year ago
    Wow, I wish those governing this seemingly nice country would read this...
  • bumpkis · 1 year ago
    NOTHING is ever what it seems to be...

    http://www.forbes.com/afxnewslimited/feeds/afx/...

    Swiss radio reporting 20 million ransom paid for Betancourt and the Americans, and the US was behind the plan.
  • Dianne_in_DC · 1 year ago
    Was that in US dollars? Too bad. Should have held out for euros.
  • DonQ · 1 year ago
    quibble: "dissolve the political bonds", not "bands"

    I've always loved how "We hold these truths to be sacred and inviolable" became "We hold these truths to be self-evident" after peer review!
  • jr · 1 year ago
    Happy 4th of July everyone!