DISQUS

libertydan · 7 months ago

Obama is a politician, it's his job to swindle people and make money :P

nikto · 7 months ago

You don't have to be gay to feel the pain when Obama stiffs gays and gay rights.

Gay issues are at the very heart of Progressivism and Liberalism, IMO, because they are slam-dunk
Civil Rights issues.

Failing to vigorously support gay rights issues gays, slices the heart and soul right out of Progressivism.

It's really really simple.

But somehow, Obama doesn't seem to see it that way, which is beyond frustrating, even maddening.

His equivocations are depressing, and puzzling.

It is not clear to me what "gain" there is for equivocation, unless it is to get the poor white vote, which Sarah Palin, the KKK, and the radical fascist churches already OWN.

Those people look to their pastors, Limbaugh and truckstop Nazis to tell them how to vote, and they are never, EVER gonna' say, "Hey, Obama hates gays enough for us to be happy with, so let's vote for him".

The thing that makes it so galling is that it is not even a clever political calculation---Abandoning gays is a
FAIL strategy for Obama, all the way.

The only possible silver lining for the gay community is that Obama may have to eventually come crawling back on his hands and knees for the gay vote and gay dollars.

Actually, that may not be an entirely unappealing image.


But it will be sad if it comes to that.

efs5r · 7 months ago

I'd actually be happy if all the President did this year for gays was to give a very strong speech--like his ones on race, abortion, and Islam. I think it would go a long way in motivating Congress, as well as shutting up all of the anti-gays who are using the President's silence as justification for their position.

I don't think he'll do it however. Not this year, not ever. I don't think he is truly concerned about gay equality.

dimitri · 7 months ago

John, I hope you keep up the attacks on Obama's lies when immigration reform comes to the table later this year or early next year. Remember, Obama "promised" to include LGBT families on any Comprehensive Immigration Reform. It's not Comprehensive unless ALL of our families are included.

mf_roe · 7 months ago

Obama has refused to deliver on ANY of the important promises he made to get elected. He is in a position where if he starts to honor his pledges to one group he will face a tidal wave of demands to honor the rest. Just as the Civil Rights Movement helped far more groups than just Blacks, the efforts of GLTBs will yield improvements for many
others feeling cheated.

FunMe · 7 months ago

Nobama is a LIAR. Period.

Indigo · 7 months ago

Fooey! That's all well and good and self-serving ("We were just a buncha hippie kids, we din't care 'bout nobody back then") but the president doesn't need a "magic wand." He has the bully pulpit, he has the authority of the presidency and the ability to sign a writ. He won't do it. Why not? He isn't afraid of angering black preachers, he plain old down home doesn't want to.

Danalan · 7 months ago

I've been wondering; could it be that Obama's need -- no, the country's need -- to reconcile with the Muslim world requires his current abhorrence towards homosexuality?

In other words, are homosexuals rights being sacrificed, or at least delayed, to prevent further rift with the powers in the Middle East? Just a thought. I'm trying to come up with reasonable explanations for his unreasonable behavior.

Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 7 months ago

Well if this IS a reason, then I am even more furious than before...as I've chalked up most of his inaction to "win a 2nd term to move on gay rights" BS. My daughter lives in Amsterdam and she, although very very liberal, is terrified about the "Muslimification" of that city...they are breeding families of 14 kids in two room apartments, while the Dutch are not having kids, thinking they will achieve political dominance through sheer numbers...and they will.

And bring with them a Stone Age religion.

I am sorry, the USA is supposed to be a secular nation. And if Obama is throwing me under some bus to curry favor with the Arab world, then well, fuck him even more...I hope to god you are wrong.

JohnnyInGa · 7 months ago

Yeah, not on point, but I've been horrified at the changes I've seen in Amsterdam too. I've been there frequently over the past 20 years. It ain't the same place today. It's a continent-wide problem. Read Bawer's "While Europe Slept".

jixter · 7 months ago

Very typical - and ultimately suicidal - behavior on the part of "liberals": avoid looking at what is right in front of our faces. According to the Liberal Bible, all cultures are equal and, therefore, should be welcomed. If you think differently, you are tarred, feathered and run out of town on the the "close-minded", "intolerant" and "racist" rail. There isn't a better way to shut people up than to lob the bigotry bomb at them. Meanwhile, the cancer continues growing.

I'm looking forward to the day when it becomes trendy and fashionable for the left to defend traditional - and progressive - Western cultural values from the invading hordes who have no intention of adopting them - and every intention of superseding them - but I expect to wait a long time for that. Gay people and other "progressive" and "liberal" types who roll over and play dead for the sake of "diversity" will someday come to regret their collective, willful blindness.

Like that right-wing (and truthful) bumper-sticker says: "Freedom isn't free"

Whether you agree with what I've said or not, thanks for your posts, B_Q_i_D and JohnnyInGa!

I hope that the Dutch wake up, grow a backbone and act to save their culture before it's too late.

dula · 7 months ago

It's not just Middle Eastern people with a stone age religion that is holding America back from progress. The vast majority of Latino and African American voters vote conservatively on social issues. Why bother helping ACORN register new voters when they will just vote against your Equal Rights?

fabularasa · 7 months ago

Muslims don't "breed," they have children -- like the Dutch, and other humans.

jixter · 7 months ago

Interesting point, Danalan!

Gregory Lyons · 7 months ago

Obama is Bush in a chocolate costume.

SD_Dave · 7 months ago

Actually I disagree, and especially don't like the "chocolate costume" remark. Very distastesful. I personally agree with Bill Maher's take in that Obama needs to be MORE like Bush. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewmruk69SIo

cowboyneok · 7 months ago

A speech? Meh!

rashanradar · 7 months ago

This won't help the cause:

White gay man molests his 5-year-old adoptive black son. Also offers him for sale on the internet.

http://townhall.com/columnists/MikeAdams/2009/0...

cowboyneok · 7 months ago

For every gay man who molests children there are ten straight people who molest children. Its just that when a gay person does it the right wing goes berzerk but when a straight person does it they just quietly shrug their shoulders.

Child molestation is an EQUAL OPPORTUNITY SICKNESS and that is why you have it affecting gay and straight adults in the same ratio. That whole canard that gays are all child molester sexual monsters is really 1950's propaganda at its finest.

nicho · 7 months ago

Well, since most child sexual abuse is committed by heterosexuals, maybe we'd better take their rights away first.

Dateline_Molly · 7 months ago

I read a great speculation on the "diagnosis" of Obama's personality type: Exhibiting an extreme fear of conflict prompting a level of conflict avoidance strategies that interferes with work functions.

The root cause of his overriding desire to seek bipartisan consensus has not been fully evaluated yet, but I think this proposed "diagnosis" may get to the heart of it. And I think it has to do with not having a strong father figure, or having 3 fathers, or whatever else happened to him to trigger this "go along to get along" style: The man craves acceptance, even by those who want to destroy him.

I'm guessing he is overcome with sheer terror at the thought of standing up to Republicans, religious fanatics, and the conservative idiots who have been rejected by the majority of Americans at this point.

Obama simply doesn't have the personality characteristics to be a leader.

gaynumbers · 7 months ago

He reminds me of Clinton.

Dateline_Molly · 7 months ago

Yep, same background. Grew up without a dad. Capitulating to the max.

SD_Dave · 7 months ago

Just an FYI! Anyone who is waiting to see what the DoJ plans on doing in the Gill case (whose brief was due tomorrow) is going to have to wait a few more months. GLAD has decided to amend the complaint and file it in late July, therefore the DoJ won't have to file a brief until September.

http://www.glad.org/current/news-detail/update-...

Steve · 7 months ago

I have no doubt about what the DOJ will do. It will file essentially the same brief as in the Smelts case--with Barney F-g praising it...again. They have decided that it would be politically inconvenient for any court to acknowledge that any gay person has any constitutional right.

SD_Dave · 7 months ago

Like you, I have no doubt about what they will do either. I was just throwing the information out there.

I have the feeling that GLAD knew what to expect from the administration and they are just trying to "allow" the administration to save face as they are celebrating Stonewall today.

sonofloud · 7 months ago

Obama made many promises to Rick Warren, I'm sure he'll be keeping those.

Webster · 7 months ago

Again, it's not the fact that Obama has only been in office five months--and it's not that he has "too much" on his plate and that equal rights should (somehow) therefore not be a priority. What's needed here is genuine movement and tangible actions that move this nation toward equal rights for ALL U.S. citizens. And the time to do that is NOW. Crisis after crisis will arise in this volatile world--there will never be some peaceful zen moment when it somehow becomes finally "right" to address equal rights. The time for equal rights is NOW.

One of the genius ideals of the whole concept of the United States of America is the idea that all citizens are created equal. It's time to live up to that ideal. Ending DOMA, ending DADT, and passing ENDA will address that dark stain on the idea of equality. No more waiting. No more excuses. No more rationalizations.

As Gertrude Stein wrote in her lyrics for the opera The Mother of Us All, dealing with another equality issue, it still speaks to the movement for LGBT rights: "Susan B. Anthony was right. And she was right because she was right."

davidinchelseama · 7 months ago

Webster said:

"...there will never be some peaceful zen moment when it somehow becomes finally 'right' to address equal rights. The time for equal rights is NOW."

So well stated !!!!!

Steve · 7 months ago

Amen! There will never be a time when it is convenient for straight people to put gay rights ahead of their political demands.

cobblepot · 7 months ago

Well, that's pretty piggy of you. You're pissed, so you reference obama's COLOR????

SD_Dave · 7 months ago

Who mentioned Obama's "color?"

gaynumbers · 7 months ago

I am a black guy, and I am a lose to see a racial reference.

cobblepot · 7 months ago

This was supposed to have been posted as a response to GREGORY LYONS. Not you, gaynumbers. Don't know why it ended up here...his "bush in a chocolate something" thing.

Paul · 7 months ago

Where's Allie? Silence when the stories aren't about Israel's enemies?

Complete MEGAPHONIE

Steve · 7 months ago

I've never heard of this Chrisler women, nor her rinky-dink group. This Uncle Tom sure as hell doesn't speak for me!