Hey, where was McCain's flag pin last night? Why does John McCain hate America?
pliny
· 1 year ago
Among other things, it looks like Palin has to go home and cover up more of her record. There is a dedicated community out there that tracks the activity of Dominionist groups like the ones Palin has been linked to. Some of their most recent work got posted in a Kos diary here: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/4/1228...
It's pretty dense. I'd reccomend having Wikipedia handy if it;s not your normal subject. Or you could just search through the page for the fun bits, like a connection to the pray-the-gay-away program Haggard flunked out of. Or how the parent church of Palin's local Wasilla Bible Church outright teaches Christian Nationalism.
Scary stuff. Makes Rev Wright look like an Uncle Tom.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
Point well made! This is the kind of information that the MSM needs to debate nationally.
pliny
· 1 year ago
Yeah, I can just see that...
"Governor Palin, Your church seems to believe that Satanic Ritual Abuse takes place in America. How do you explain the complete lack of evidence for these crimes?"
*The Satanic Ritual Abuse position comes the parent church, which asks about Satanic Ritual Abuse history on an application for a weekend workshop, like the one Matt Taibbi covered for Rolling Stone: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/2027...
Gorgonzola
· 1 year ago
The MSM has totally rejected its essential responsibility to inform the public. The GOP funfest was utterly devoid of any details as to how they intend to deal with our multiple national problems. That's to be expected from the Repub-fascists but the MSM served as their amen choir and gave up their last crumb of credibility.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Good morning. Thank God THAT Convention is over.
bluestockton
· 1 year ago
One-liner in a Florida newspaper today: Now that McCain didn't pick him for VP, will Charlie Crist still get married?
Indigo
· 1 year ago
Saw it!
canuck55
· 1 year ago
Put another way, will Charlie shave his beard?
Indigo
· 1 year ago
Am I the only one who noticed that some of the newscasters at the convention were wearing lavender neckties? :-)
Rab
· 1 year ago
I'm glad the repugs are out of my state which will for the 9th time in a row go for a Democratic Presidential candidate and the next President of the United States Barack H. Obama. I'm not bragging but the world would be much different (better) if the rest of the country would have voted along the lines of Minnesota.
grandma
· 1 year ago
" The more I learn about her(Palin), the more you realize that she is indeed the future of the Republican party - evangelical Christianity is now the core philosophy of the GOP:
the GOP is now primarily a religious organization,
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
This is a keen observation. This election may prove to be the one that decides the future of the other party. If the right wins, the dems may not get another chance for a long, long time. If the dems win, it'll usher in a whole new ear of how politics is played out in America.
1billinnj2
· 1 year ago
it is being reported that palin will not have any press conferences. she will not talk to the press at all. wow. what if she backed out of the v.p. debate and biden had to debate an empty chair. wow. is this possible?
grandma
· 1 year ago
Shows a huge lack of confidence in her abilities.....which should be cause for concern for every American.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
Yes it does Grandma. The thing that makes me worry is that it's "not" a concern for every American. Obama and Biden are going to have to play this scenario out right down to the wire. I think if Obama can weave a scenario for the press that helps them realize that they'll have absolutely " no access" in a McCain presidency, they'll jump on board.
They'll do it becase there survival will depend on it. I miss Tim Russert. He kept the watch more than any other player in the MSM.
lynchie
· 1 year ago
Russert kept the watch for Bush and the GOP. He was openly biased and no different than Mathews, Scarboro, and the whole fox network. Olberman has been dissed by NBC for wrangling with Mathews during the Dem Convention. Maddow seemed like she was drinking the Koolaid last night. Hope that getting her own show didn't come at the price of giving up her beliefs. Guess we will see. My prediction is Olbermann is done at NBC, too much honesty and no tonguing of McCain and Palin.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
It could be. These are Rovian tactics. However, Obama and Biden could greatly use this to their advantage and praise the "role" of the press at every opportunity imaginable. It would be impossible for the press to play "gotcha"! If she refuses to debate, allow Biden to lay out an expose on National Security in front of the world. Allow him to become the gifted teacher and scholar that he is.
Obama team has to be smart in all of this. They have to drive home the following rhetoric. "The job of the press is to ask questions that the American people want to know--no matter how uncomfortable it seems to a candidate. If we try and eliminate their jobs, then it simply becomes a matter of any candidate telling the people what they want the people to hear."
Validate the press at every opportunity--this gets them on your side! And then, encourage the press to make their own judgements in front of the world about the candidates who refuse to talk with them.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Yes !! Well said !
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
McCain: we are the people who will save you from us.
JohnInTexas
· 1 year ago
He just said the word "fight" way too much.
TheOriginalLiz
· 1 year ago
That's because the republican core doesn't understand the concept of negotiation or peaceful resolution. If there is something they don't like, they fight it ... it mostly doesn't solve the problem, but they never seem to notice that, do they? Fighting is manly, and americans (especially for some reason, uber-christians) must be manly. God would not approve of us sitting down and talking out our differences, after all.
grandma
· 1 year ago
"You can’t help but admire the way John McCain refuses to exploit his wartime service for political gain."
She fucking lied about the one incident that got her the biggest applause!
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
Half-baked Alaska! Ha!
Is the creepy White People convergence in St. Paul finished yet? God, what a pathetic little show that was!
They didn't even NEED to put up their usual "Whites Only" signs at the entrance to that Republican convention.
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
too bad that trans-canada gas pipeline is just a figment of her imagination. they could have piped some of the air from the Xcel center back to Wasilla.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
yes, the GOP is now primarily a religious organization, AND they're still trying to sneak back over and placate the Log Cabin Republicans...
Steve Schmidt aka rove junior, just spoke at a luncheon held by the LCRs, telling them that his gay sister and her partner mean a lot to him...right.
She actually sold it at a loss........and it wasn't on ebay!
marijo
· 1 year ago
I'm thinking that we should not give the republicans any more traction with the Palin story, instead, refocus on the issues and REAL change that is the core of the Obama platform, and keep that front and center. Every moment spent on her is a moment lost to EDUCATE and MOTIVATE about the importance of the choice ahead. So let's put Palin in the yesterday's news column and get back to what these sites do best, getting the truth out and getting the vote out!
Indigo
· 1 year ago
Good morning! Be kind. Caribou Barbie has to get back to her roots and have them touched up before she takes the Grand Tour of the Lower 48. Enjoy the tropical storm. Have John set the orchids on the balcony, free water is always welcome . . . unless there's too much of it.
gwpriester
· 1 year ago
I am soooo glad to have all those republicans gone. I feel as if I need to have my home fumigated. Or exoecised. My TV feels infested.
BorninUSA
· 1 year ago
Well, Scarborough and Mika finally admitted they are in the 'tank' for mcshame. Rick Davis was on Morning Joe and they questioned him about Palin not being available to the press. Doesn't sound like the repug campaign thinks it is important that we know any more than we already do about Palin. Davis said they will let her be on the press shows when they think it is necessary. Imagine if the Democrats had pulled this. Of course Davis used the Democrats to argue, how many times has Biden been on the shows, how many times has Obama. Not taking into consideration that we f**king know these people, Biden has been around for a long time and Obama has not run into hiding to keep the press away. The only thing we know about Palin, who if elected will be one heart attack away from the presidency, is what the repugs choose to tell us. And apparently that is all we are allowed to know.
Another thing that is really bugging me. I am getting tired of everyone; Todd, Maddow, Olberman (not so much), Andrea Mitchell, saying how much mcshame's life story and cindy's life story really moved them. Whose side are they on??? I have given up on Chuck Todd; he loves being on Scarborough's show and every other show out there. After November he will be an unknown again. This morning that Dem guy who was on stuck his hand out to Todd and Todd refused to shake it!!!!
sa2968
· 1 year ago
Does anyone else feel that this "timeout" is just an excuse to let the McCain campaign figure a way to get rid of her??
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
i hope they try to get rid of her and she tells em to back off.
She will drag them under because she is the walking, talking, personification of their sell-out to the ultra-conservative base.
houstonray
· 1 year ago
ABSOLUTELY!
To be perfectly honest, Palin is a more scary thought as President than McCain. At least with McCain we sorta know what to expect. She's an ultra conservative, religious, right wing, inexperienced whack job, and that scares me more...
BorninUSA
· 1 year ago
Or could they possibly be figuring out a way to get rid of mcshame and put Palin at the top of the ticket?
JohnInTexas
· 1 year ago
I think the pitbull owners across the country are probably pissed off by now having their breed compared to SP.
Good to see Obama on ORielly admit that the surge has been a success. His credibility has come up a lot in my mind. Hopefully Polosi and Reid will do the same, and give our brave soldiers the honor they deserve.
bunnyjump
· 1 year ago
Surge or no surge....the Iraq war was based on lies. Period. End of story.
And it is Bush and his lemming Rethugs who owe our troops an apology.
IMO the best apology would be delivered behind bars.
DCinDC
· 1 year ago
She is going back to Alaska to get those DNA tests for that baby fixed.
jixter
· 1 year ago
Question: After a person has been duly served with a subpoena, what simple options are available to the person to delay or avoid showing up? Is showing up mandatory and iron-clad? Are the ways to avoid it or side-step it or delay it complicated and difficult to achieve?
I'm asking this in regards to Palin's participation in the Trooper-Gate investigation.
DCinDC
· 1 year ago
She has to run back to Alaska to clear this mess up. I wonder how much money they are going to pay this guy to shut up?
Brad Hanson - Sarah Palin’s other lover and…a city council member? September 5, 2008 Rumor has it that Mr. Brad Hanson, the man that has spilled the beans on his affair with Sarah Palin to The Enquirer is now a member of the Palmer City Council. He was married at the time when he was alleged to be with Palin.
Hey, it's distasteful and dubious, but The National Enquirer was partially right on John Edwards, so here it is:
ST. PAUL, Minn. | John McCain’s campaign is denying a tabloid report that vice president candidate Sarah Palin had an extramarital affair.
The National Enquirer wrote in its edition dated Sept. 15 that Palin had an affair with a business associate of her husband, Todd Palin. He discovered the infidelity and dissolved the business, the article said. It attributed the allegation only to “an enemy” of the Alaska governor.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
just now watching the video of McCain's speech...
at the very beginning, the guy holding up the "McCain votes against vets" sign was fantastic...and the crowd tries to shout the guy down with chants of USA...isn't that sadly ironic?...interrupting McPOW! who thinks they're cheering him...excellent.
you'd think a former POW! would vote FOR our brave vets and give them the honor they deserve.
way to go Vets.
barts
· 1 year ago
Didn't see much of McBush's speech last night - knew it would be uninspiring and fall flat on its face like the failure of his mentor.
Did happen to see footage of police handling of protestors on CNN this morning and it was quite disturbing. A young woman who resisting arrest was pepper sprayed several times. Anyone who is even in the same room when pepper spray is used knows that even a few micrograms floating in air can cause you to cough and gag. After being sprayed multiple times squarely in the face, the police in full riot gear took one of their motorbikes and tried to push it over her body to force her to lie motionless on the ground.
I am all for peacefull protest as it should be allow under the 1st Amendment (provided Bush hasn't signed that away as well) but to see this was quite disturbing, especially for our country.
CDS2
· 1 year ago
Did you see the protesters that were turning over dumpsters, breaking the windows of stores, and threatening delagates?
barts
· 1 year ago
As I have stated before that I am for Peaceful protest. I don't condone violence whether it is perpetrated by protestors or police. I don't know what the woman's history was I only saw what I saw and she was appearing to resist but she was also unarmed and significantly weaker than the oncoming police.
I think summarily arresting hundreds of people is a bit over the top. As a tax payer I am paying for all of these arrests.
nicho
· 1 year ago
Going back to Alaska? Maybe her water broke.
DThor
· 1 year ago
Less substance and fewer answers than Regis and Kelly. Cheney is the original maverick took us to war tore up the constitution. We don't need another maverick.
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
Ah, here is a mystery almost solved. Many, including me, wondered why the big white mansion on the screen behind McCain. It is a school named Walter Reed Middle School in north Hollywood. Why a school? TPM thinks it may be that someone charged with the task of finding a picture of Walter Reed HOSPITAL screwed up and instead used the school. Makes sense to me.
houstonray
· 1 year ago
Ha! That figures! They can't even exploit images correctly!
alleydog
· 1 year ago
I had heard that the original plan was to keep her daughters pregnancy secret until after the convention when she would promptly marry her off. The must have forgot the shotgun back home.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
she was counting on covering up the truth like a good GOPer should, but got ratted out by the mean old bloggers.
check that - McCain ratted her out because the mean old bloggers made him...
patsydecline
· 1 year ago
i couldn't help but recall a great essay that i read many years ago from ivan illich(to hell with good intentions), regarding development work...it was rather disturbing to see cindy mccain using her adopted daughter as a testement to her mother teresa proclivities...even showing a photo of herself with mother teresa... reducing her daughter to an object in showcasing her boundless heart and goodness...as the camea moved to the daughter, she seemed utterly disconnected to those around her and rather uncomfortable...not a daughter but some rag doll to show the world...i believe many mothers would never dream of reducing their daughter for a self serving political atta girl... affording their daughter the respect and digity to not exploit her for political gain...at least madonna made a movie about the plight of orphans and not a movie about the plight of herself
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
great article by Matthew Budd at HuffPost- a gay man for Obama vs. his parents for McCain
Palin went back to Alaska, because all those detractors are getting out of control up there while she is away. Plus she needs to update her Naughty teacher/MILF porn site. (admit it the long hair in a bun, those glasses and pant suit just cry out naughty teacher) Or maybe she has to go back to the same place Katherine Harris went to, where the GOP sends all their "pitbulls w/ lipstick" to get re-stepforded, or programmed for the next debaucle.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
The GOPers have declared war on the "far left", which now includes anyone who questions their assertion that the ultraconservative right fringe represents the American majority.
CCarson
· 1 year ago
I was not so impressed by Sen. McCain's speech. Not because it meandered, did not state any policy goals clearly or have any coherent through line, and not because most of it was uninspired boilerplate Republican rhetoric, though those issues were troublesome and frankly boring. No, my issue with the speech and the convention was its blatant and overt hypocrisy. The theme of "Country First, Self Second" and McCain's portrayal of Sen. Obama as self absorbed and I suppose we are to infer "self first, country later" was on its face hypocritical since the entire convention was biographical in nature. It centered almost exclusively on lauding and methodically, mechanically repeating the accomplishments of McCain and Palin. Compare the speeches of McCain and Obama in their respective conventions. McCain stated a few ambiguous policy positions and made just a passing reference to the pain some Americans are feeling (without offering any concrete solutions for it.) but the focus of the speech, and indeed its emotional culmination focused on McCain, his life, and his war hero status (that, by the way, was mentioned in every single speech every single night--usually multiple times.). In contrast Obama's speech focused very little on himself and instead focused on the very specific things he would like to do for the country to change its direction, including the progressive goal of becoming energy independent in ten years. The Democratic Convention, after focusing the first couple of nights on biography, got serious in the ensuing nights about specifically solving the country's numerous complex issues. It is fine, I suppose, if you would like to base an entire convention on biography, especially if you aren't offering any original ideas or insight, just don't then make the theme of that convention "Country first, Self Second." Don't say the word "change" ten times in a speech without offering a single fresh insight (Are all of America's problems really going to be solved by cutting taxes? Haven't we been trying that for the past eight years?). Just saying the word change doesn't make it happen. Once again, the smoke and mirrors game of self interest, self aggranizement and total hypocrisy at its Orwellian/Rovian best lives first and best with McCain and the Republican Party. Unconvincing and unimpressive.
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Why does John McCain hate America?
It's pretty dense. I'd reccomend having Wikipedia handy if it;s not your normal subject. Or you could just search through the page for the fun bits, like a connection to the pray-the-gay-away program Haggard flunked out of. Or how the parent church of Palin's local Wasilla Bible Church outright teaches Christian Nationalism.
Scary stuff. Makes Rev Wright look like an Uncle Tom.
"Governor Palin, Your church seems to believe that Satanic Ritual Abuse takes place in America. How do you explain the complete lack of evidence for these crimes?"
*The Satanic Ritual Abuse position comes the parent church, which asks about Satanic Ritual Abuse history on an application for a weekend workshop, like the one Matt Taibbi covered for Rolling Stone: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/2027...
Thank God THAT Convention is over.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
the GOP is now primarily a religious organization,
They'll do it becase there survival will depend on it. I miss Tim Russert. He kept the watch more than any other player in the MSM.
Obama team has to be smart in all of this. They have to drive home the following rhetoric. "The job of the press is to ask questions that the American people want to know--no matter how uncomfortable it seems to a candidate. If we try and eliminate their jobs, then it simply becomes a matter of any candidate telling the people what they want the people to hear."
Validate the press at every opportunity--this gets them on your side! And then, encourage the press to make their own judgements in front of the world about the candidates who refuse to talk with them.
http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2008...
http://dubyad40.com/
She fucking lied about the one incident that got her the biggest applause!
Is the creepy White People convergence in St. Paul finished yet? God, what a pathetic little show that was!
They didn't even NEED to put up their usual "Whites Only" signs at the entrance to that Republican convention.
Steve Schmidt aka rove junior, just spoke at a luncheon held by the LCRs, telling them that his gay sister and her partner mean a lot to him...right.
they are liars. they can only win by lying. call it out.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/04/steve-schmi...
http://dubyad40.com/
She actually sold it at a loss........and it wasn't on ebay!
Be kind. Caribou Barbie has to get back to her roots and have them touched up before she takes the Grand Tour of the Lower 48.
Enjoy the tropical storm. Have John set the orchids on the balcony, free water is always welcome . . . unless there's too much of it.
Another thing that is really bugging me. I am getting tired of everyone; Todd, Maddow, Olberman (not so much), Andrea Mitchell, saying how much mcshame's life story and cindy's life story really moved them. Whose side are they on??? I have given up on Chuck Todd; he loves being on Scarborough's show and every other show out there. After November he will be an unknown again. This morning that Dem guy who was on stuck his hand out to Todd and Todd refused to shake it!!!!
She will drag them under because she is the walking, talking, personification of their sell-out to the ultra-conservative base.
To be perfectly honest, Palin is a more scary thought as President than McCain. At least with McCain we sorta know what to expect. She's an ultra conservative, religious, right wing, inexperienced whack job, and that scares me more...
And it is Bush and his lemming Rethugs who owe our troops an apology.
IMO the best apology would be delivered behind bars.
I'm asking this in regards to Palin's participation in the Trooper-Gate investigation.
Brad Hanson - Sarah Palin’s other lover and…a city council member?
September 5, 2008
Rumor has it that Mr. Brad Hanson, the man that has spilled the beans on his affair with Sarah Palin to The Enquirer is now a member of the Palmer City Council. He was married at the time when he was alleged to be with Palin.
Hey, it's distasteful and dubious, but The National Enquirer was partially right on John Edwards, so here it is:
ST. PAUL, Minn. | John McCain’s campaign is denying a tabloid report that vice president candidate Sarah Palin had an extramarital affair.
The National Enquirer wrote in its edition dated Sept. 15 that Palin had an affair with a business associate of her husband, Todd Palin. He discovered the infidelity and dissolved the business, the article said. It attributed the allegation only to “an enemy” of the Alaska governor.
at the very beginning, the guy holding up the "McCain votes against vets" sign was fantastic...and the crowd tries to shout the guy down with chants of USA...isn't that sadly ironic?...interrupting McPOW! who thinks they're cheering him...excellent.
you'd think a former POW! would vote FOR our brave vets and give them the honor they deserve.
way to go Vets.
Did happen to see footage of police handling of protestors on CNN this morning and it was quite disturbing. A young woman who resisting arrest was pepper sprayed several times. Anyone who is even in the same room when pepper spray is used knows that even a few micrograms floating in air can cause you to cough and gag. After being sprayed multiple times squarely in the face, the police in full riot gear took one of their motorbikes and tried to push it over her body to force her to lie motionless on the ground.
I am all for peacefull protest as it should be allow under the 1st Amendment (provided Bush hasn't signed that away as well) but to see this was quite disturbing, especially for our country.
I think summarily arresting hundreds of people is a bit over the top. As a tax payer I am paying for all of these arrests.
Cheney is the original maverick took us to war tore up the constitution. We don't need another maverick.
Makes sense to me.
check that - McCain ratted her out because the mean old bloggers made him...
a gay man for Obama vs. his parents for McCain
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-budd/this-el...