DISQUS

AMERICAblog: Froomkin: One of his best columns EVER

  • Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago
    I read it, every last word. Dubya is an idiot, a hateful, unfeeling, idiot; and so is the "reporter" and his agency who would even publish such a tricked-out set up of an interview. Are these people really funded by the republicons? Froomkin shows the great effect one can get by telling the real truth.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    I'm sure his advisors told him it wouldn't look good to have clips of him playing golf floating around while soldiers were dying in his Vanity War.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    More from Froomkin:

    Not only is it a hollow, trivial sacrifice at best, Bush's story doesn't hold water. While he dates his decision to abjure golf to Aug. 19, 2003 -- the day a truck bomb in Baghdad killed U.N. special representative Sergio Vieira de Mello and more than a dozen others -- the Associated Press reported on Oct. 13, 2003, that he'd spent a "cool, breezy Columbus Day" playing "a round of golf with three long-time buddies.
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    Keith Olberman went after idiot boy and left nothing to be said. I continue to be amazed at how this Administration is so detached from the world. The consequences of their actions never seem to enter their heads. It is as if they are playing a role in a movie where no one actually gets blown up or drowned, or loses their home, or dies from no health insurance or can't get a job, or anguishes over not being able to feed their families. These people sail along without a ripple in the pond and pass through untouched, unsullied by the chaos that surrounds them, the chaos they have caused by making poor decisions. When Bush said in his interview that he invaded and bombed the hell out of Iraq because some people told me they had WMD says everything we need to know about the man. Someone told him to eat dog shit---so he did, didn't taste good or bad but I did what I was told.
    Amazing how childlike and out of touch he is. His parents act in much the same way detached and oblivious. Amazing.
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    Gaud bless George W. Bush with every blessing with which he has blessed the nation.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    george w. bush makes me absolutely ill.
    so looking forward to the end of the nightmare.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    "Presidential historian Robert Dallek. . . said Bush's remarks about Iraq 'speak to his shallowness.' Dallek added: 'That's his idea of sacrifice, to give up golf?'"

    Pretty blistering considering that Dallek isn't a partisan. He's one of those objective historians like Kearns-Goodwin or Michael Beschloss.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Good Lord. How low can Republico sink?

    Even Golfing Bloggers have a better idea of what constitutes a real interview:

    William K. Wolfrum blogs for worldgolf.com: "In an insipid interview with the web site Politico that featured no less than 20 questions about his daughter's wedding, baseball, American Idol and who does the best impersonation of him, President George W. Bush was hit with a haymaker - Has he stopped golfing? . . .

    "Bush has spent more time on vacation than any other president. . . . He's never attended a slain soldier's funeral. He's spent time fishing and endlessly clearing brush on his ranch, and attending his daughter's lavish wedding, among other things. But golf? Well, that would just send the wrong signal to the thousands killed in Iraq and Afghanistan and their families.

    "War supporters take note - put away your golf clubs. It's just disrespectful."
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    And Bush has repeatedly made clear that he is not overly troubled. People magazine asked Bush in December 2006 if he had trouble sleeping. As Karen Travers blogged for ABC News, his response was: "I must tell you, I'm sleeping a lot better than people would assume."

    You can say a lot of bad things about LBJ's decisions, but all historians agree that committing the country to continued war just tore his guts out.

    Bush, not so much....
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Allen's interview started off with seven questions about Jenna Bush's wedding, and went downhill from there.

    The only really critical question came from a reader, who asked: "Do you feel that you were misled on Iraq?" Bush predictably ducked it.

    Here are some of Allen's own questions:

    "Mr. President, I know you're going to hate this, but I'm hoping that we may twist your arm and talk about baseball for just a moment. (Laughter.) Mr. President, you're a Major League Baseball team owner again. Everyone is a free agent. You have a Yankees-like wallet. Who is your first position player? Who's your pitcher?"

    "Now, Mr. President, you and the First Lady appeared on American Idol's charity show, 'Idol Gives Back.' And I wonder who do you think is going to win? Syesha, David Cook, or David Archuleta?"

    "All right. Mr. President, who does the better impression, Will Ferrell of you, or Dana Carvey of your father?"

    "And speaking of impressions, our friend, Robert Draper, author of 'Dead Certain,' said you do a great impression of Dr. Evil from 'Austin Powers'."


    Republico's Mike Allen is the Neil Cavuto of the blogosphere.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    wow. mike allen's right up there with neil cavuto and stephanopolous and gibson....what mighty examples of journalistic crap.
  • bumpkis · 1 year ago
    http://www.antiwar.com/porter/?articleid=12841

    The news media's failure to report that the arms captured from Shiite militiamen in Karbala did not include a single Iranian weapon shielded the US military from a much bigger blow to its anti-Iran strategy.

    The Bush administration and top Iraq commander Gen. David Petraeus had plotted a sequence of events that would build domestic US political support for a possible strike against Iran over its "meddling" in Iraq and especially its alleged export of arms to Shiite militias.

    (if they had any BALLS at all, Patreaus would NOT be confirmed to head CENTCOM, I think the hearing is today.)
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    I reiterate: Mike Allen needs to be condemned as Exhibit A in the mainstream media's slobbering knob-polishing of Bush. White House creates talking point, Allen rephrases it as a leading question, Allen takes stenography. Bush, stupidly and inadvertently, reveals his core sociopathic personality.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Yes, but when is someone going to print the truth that the American people believe this regime is totally despicable and corrupt? It doesn't do any good to carefully, bit by bit, expose the shallowness and criminality of it, it needs to be shouted from the rooftops by the callow and self-serving MSM.

    More and more people are talking armed revolution. Perhaps that is what it's going to take as people are more and more frustrated and debilitated by what is going on in this country.
  • 1billinnj2 · 1 year ago
    they stole the elections, they lied us into war, they stole money from the treasury, they got americans killed over lies, they destroyed the constitution, and these people are suppose to be on our side. talk about the manchurian canidate. i do hope that we never, ever get a republican back in the white house. when does the criminal trials begin for bush and his buddies? we should start impeachment hearing the day that the new president wins in november.
  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 1 year ago
    One of my best buddies from Yale knew Dubbya fairly well in the mid sixties in New Haven. He tells a tale, and this is an honest person, of how Dubbya used to get so drunk and coked out that he would vomit on himself in the Old Campus quad. And how Yale campus police would scoop him up and take him back to his dorm, and not arresting him, as they did any ordinary Yalie in those days. And how Dubbya flunked out...yes that is flunked out, not C average as Rove told the media...three times. Why does this Froomkin essay surprise anyone?

    Idiot America elects Idiot Preznits.
  • TomJoad · 1 year ago
    Bush: "No, I remember when de Mello, who was at the U.N., got killed in Baghdad as a result of these murderers taking this good man's life. And I was playing golf -- I think I was in central Texas -- and they pulled me off the golf course and I said, it's just not worth it anymore to do."
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    There is just a kind of disconnect with Bush that I always have found frightening. It's like fractured thinking....abstract. He constantly in statements connects things that are imprecise, don't belong together, and just plain don't make sense and most often are incomplete. Like someone who starts a sentence as if you had been talking about it all along.

    "they pulled me off the golf course, and and I said, it's just not worth it anymore to do."

    As if up to that point it WAS "worth it to do" as if it had some connection. (all remember "...now watch this shot"?) It also screams of "magical thinking", as if the person killed somehow was intertwined with him playing golf.
    Also not, he doesn't say "and I decided" as a normal person would, he says "and I said", is if the saying was the doing?

    Off and on I have run into people that speak like this, and it always makes me wary of the person.
  • SkippyFlipjack · 1 year ago
    I especially like this part: that Mello "got killed in Baghdad as a result of these murderers taking this good man's life." In other words, he got killed as a result of being killed. They say that's a pretty common side-effect of being killed, you know.

    (One could also add that he got killed as a result of Bush's war, but we won't go there.)
  • catskills · 1 year ago
    Matt Drudge has a HUGE story on McCain up right now. With the help the GOP operatives like gay journalist Matthew Drudge are going to give McCain, I don't think we can count him out. I have a feeling the Republicans are going to slam Obama hard with some of the dirtiest negative ads ever seen. Unfortunately, we know that negative campaigning works (eg Karl Rove).

    I think our key 'out' is to blame the whole thing on Billary. If Obama loses to McCain, it is crucial that we blame the loss on Hillary and her sleazy husband. Hatred for the corrupt Clintons is one of the few things we have in common with the Republicans and scapegoating them for a possible loss will keep the DNC reputation clean.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    this comment is totally weird.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    What is it going to take? A long, hot summer of frustration, joblessness, hunger, homelessness and more? Americans are so fed up, they are taking it out on each other with domestic violence (including children), drunkenness and other addictions, property crimes, and every other sort of criminal activity, and this is making a lot of us scared, that we will be attacked by others who have been forced so low, who can't make any money, that they will attempt to take what little we do have.

    My son and I have discussed purchasing a pistol--he's that worried about my well-being since I'm home alone so much, and he's afraid some pillhead will break in on me. And I don't like the idea of a gun in the house, but if it comes to self-defense, I'd have no problem using it. I already keep a stout 2 in thick, 3-1/2 ft. wooden stick next to the door. When 4 houses right on your short block have been broken into already, it tends to make you wary...and I'm basically a non-violent person, but you can't argue with someone on the horrible dope that's being peddled these days.

    So yes, the fear is even starting to affect someone like me, a usually rational person, but one who keeps her radar on 24/7 these days.
  • TomJoad · 1 year ago
    OlderAndWiser, I really hope you resist the impulse to let fear get to you.
    First off, a gun...are you really ready to shoot someone if needed? My own experience, when you have a gun, anything seems like a reason to get it out, and it can spook some people more than not having one. Plus, can be stolen, taken from you and used against you...

    The buildup of fear also will color all interactions with others. In a way, the expectation of confrontation...crazed junkies, etc. can make the outcome happen that you fear most. Treat people as I am sure you have already, human beings, if someone breaks in, get out. Have they been night burglaries, or daytime, and have they been when there were folks home?
  • confusion · 1 year ago
    confusion say..gun require much a respect, from a owner and sucker that gun pointed at.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Tom, most of those have been daytime burglaries--when I'm home. And we know our neighbors well, it isn't them, it's younger people in this neighborhood who are doing the meth and pills and feel no compunction about daylight robberies. Believe me, we know this neighborhood well, and the county cops don't even investigate.

    It's not me that's so much afraid--it's people who are afraid FOR me, since I'm aging, a small person, and they don't believe I could really defend myself (and I don't know either since the occasion has never really come up). But believe me, I am aware of my surroundings--some of the criminal acts I've heard about just make no sense whatsoever, and when crime is senseless, even treating the other as a human being has absolutely no effect. There was a 92 yr old woman, returning from church, who was shot on her doorstep for her purse by a 19 yr old predator, in a quiet neighborhood in Charlotte about 2 weeks ago. This is the kind of senseless crime I'm talking about. The elderly are seen as weak, and perfect victims.
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    I am not anti-gun, but, the problem you will face is, are you prepared to pull the trigger. I have a shotgun in my closet and to me the most sobering sound is racking a shell into the shotgun. Everyone pretty well knows the sound, so if it is a gun you decide you need get a shot gun. Same efficiency in fact better since the shotgun sends out a fairly wide pattern. Hand guns are less accurate. I would also consider a security system which has a direct link to local police and a security company You might also consider a community watch group who will watch out for strange people in the neighborhood and call each other if someone spots someone who doesn't belong.
    Getting back to your original point, I don't think we have seen the worst yet. High unemployment, energy costs forcing people to steal gas is on the rise, continue spewing of hate and division by the politicians, the despair in our young people in finding jobs, lack of accountability on the part of corporations and politicians, heads of families unemployed and losing homes. This is a recipe for rebellion on the part of the poor and needy and while I don't condone stealing, mugging and crime it is perhaps understandable, not acceptable, but understandable. Where better to get a few bucks but from the old and defenseless. My mother lived in an apartment building and there was a tenant murdered in the entranceway. She never left the building for 3 months she was so afraid.
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    Bush in Israel predicts a completely democratic middle east. What a disaster as a world leader.
  • PeteWa · 1 year ago
    Bush is a scumbag who idiots and assholes voted for.
  • JMOHR · 1 year ago
    It is time to make King George suffer and suffer dearly. Look at his smirk without a real bit of sympathy or concern for the millions of lives and families that he has touched:

    1. The over four thousand soldiers who have died in Iraq, the 45,000 plus seriously injured and their families.

    2. The millions of displaced Iraqi families and the tens if not hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed in King George's ill conceived and unnecessary war in Iraq.

    3. The tens of thousands of minority and poor residents of New Orleans bused away after Katrina with little hope of every returning home. The thousands of families who were returned only to be put in toxic trailers.

    4. The millions of American families who have become impoverished through those enlightened fiscal policies that have given so much to the richest families and corporations of this country.

    5. The millions of children and families who have joined the ranks of the uninsured due to the compassionate conservatism of the Republicans.

    6. The 300 plus million US citizens who have watched their civil liberties diminished, their security lessened and the once proud reputation of their country tarnished.
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Prepare for the Landslide Punitive Election of 2008.
  • vkobaya · 1 year ago
    You've been smoking too much funny grass.

    Prepare for the Coup d'etat of 2008.

    Okay, not a certainty but I'd give it about 85 to 90% probability.
  • incontext · 1 year ago
    You can be sure the Bush dynasty never gives up ANYTHING for the troops. Their faux compassion goes on public display only when distractions as meaningless to them as as dead American troops and their annoying parents temporarily interrupt their true interests— stock portfolios, coups/invasions, torture, free market Christianity, shopping, and, of course, family weddings performed in front of ostentatious tombstones. The only thing Bush gave up in 2003 was press coverage of his ongoing, but now private golf games. But this IS a huge sacrifice from the perspective of the Bush aristocracy, who believe everyone in this world was born to serve and suffer for them and not the other way around. Without a daily explanation from his current babysitter, Bush still gets confused about why his golf games aren't on TV anymore. Only his boring speeches.
  • Radardan · 1 year ago
    I'm sure someone will have it up on the web soon, but Keith Olbermann took the same material Froomkin covered and made it one of his Special Comments, indicting Bush in even more strident language.

    Froomkin pointed out the softball questions, but the answers were more revealing than with a hardball questioner.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Now, don't watch this drive...