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It is worth considering that Mr. Simpson was acting, as senior trial counsel, without clearing the Motion past higher-ups in the DOJ. That is, he may not be required to do so, and thus had a bit of a free reign here.
Given the recent increase in the profile of Mormon antipathy to LGBT causes . . . it's not unreasonable to think that Simpson was acting beyond the scope of what the administration would have wanted him to, perhaps motivated by his personal religious convictions.
You would think that on a politically charged issue such as this Obama would want someone to vet the brief before it was filed to see if it jibed with his own policies. So, there are three choices: Obama agrees with this. Obama's administration is not under his control. Or, Obama doesn't give a shit what these people submit as briefs. This isn't helping.
Your choice.
People, alright, he hasn't snapped his finger and changed all the GLBT rights he said he would....Hum Remember what happend to Clinton, when he rushed to allow Gays in the military ? That is how we got DADT. Obama has to take it slow, and we need to understand. Now if he still hasn't done anything after 2 or 3 years in office, Yes then we should go after him whole hog.
I am not sure but I think he has been busy running the country. It was Run into a hole with the Republicans, and we need to understand that the Whole Country needs to come first.
he's not taking it slow. HE IS MOVING BACKWARDS ON HIS PROMISES. He is moving in the OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
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Get it?
It is called patients people, we lived 8 years with Bush and his distruction of the American Middle Class.
I was in the Air Force,I was patient, did my duty and got out. People just have a little patients. How was your military life ? I have walked the Walk, and you ?
You can stand together and sing Kum-ba-ya if you want, all I am suggesting, is we give the man a chance, I didn';t realize that the GLBT community hold priority over everything and everyone else in the USA.
I'm tired of just waiting for the proper time or we have more important things to accomplish than my equal rights. I'm getting old and I do not want to have run out the clock waiting and making nice just so some heterosexuals won't get upset with me demanding my rights. There you have it!
I have yet to tell anyone to shut up, and I would never. What I am suggesting is, we give him some time to do the job.
The discrimination of the GLBT is over 220 years in its creation, it will take him some time to correct it.
I am not suggesting backing down, I am just suggesting patience. Again, if he doesn't do anything by 2011, then by all means, Let him have it via the Internet, media, papers, how ever we can get the words across.
As I mentioned before, I'm getting long in the tooth and I've been patiently waiting for our government to do the right thing. It appears to me, that they will not do it unless forced to do so. I've unfortunately, run out of patience. Thank you for your service, as well.
I get so angry at these 20 somethings that are bitching and screaming they want their rights NOW !!! They don't even know what it took to get what we have now !!! They never lived through Anita Bryant, Jessie Helms, Falwell, The start of AIDS.
They just think that what we have now came easily and so should the rest.
People like you and I that have seen what it took to get here are tired of waiting for what we know will come.
I look at these people the same way I looked at George W & Dick Cheney when it came to them being Commanders of the Military. You didn't walk the walk, how dare you even think about telling me what we are to do.
Like I said if he hasn't stepped to the plate by 2011, OK then we need you hit the streets and voice our thoughts. Not 4 + months after he took office.
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..."
I am pretty sure that this is just a minor set back. Also I think that the GAY movement does not have a focus or a leader at the moment. It is not well organised at all. I am not gay but I fully support everything that you are trying to achieve, but for the sake of my life, I dont know how disowning Obama after 5 months in Office will solve your problems.
The DOJ attorney had to defend that case, it was the law. You can't disregard laws. Also the issue of Gay rights is so divisive in America that if he did do something dramatic like a stop L for DADT, his whole agenda is down the toilet.
Seriously folks
This brief had to have been revewied at several levels. DOJ is notorious for not letting attorneys have any kind of a leash at all.
Please try to keep up.
He's also torturing, hiding "inconvenient" facts from us, keeping prisoners without trial.
But he does give one hell of a speech.
I'm not arguing that the Bush adminstration was gay friendly. It wasn't.
But what many lefties just don't get was that the Bush administration didn't really care about gay issues one way or the other. That isn't great, what what it does mean is that in a federal system like ours, when the federal government is disengaged an issue (and if you believe in the constitution, it should be disengaged from a lot of issues it's engaged in), the states get to make a lot of their own choices. Like to legalize gay marraige, which some states did under George Bush - effectively making him the first President in US history to preside where gay marraige was legal, and one of a handful of world leaders to have gay marraige legal somewhere in their jurisdiction.
In fact, Obama is on track to make his presidency to be the first in a while to set back gay rights. I know that GWB is considered to have set back gay rights, but he didn't. Probably not by design. But the reality is, gay rights did not move backward during his tenure, whether he liked it or not. Gay rights moved back for the first time since Bill Clinton - a Democrat - signed DOMA, on Obama's election day, when California voted for Proposition 8. (By the way, blaming the Mormons? That was brilliant PR for Dems! Even though statistically at least 1 million people voted for both Obama and Prop 8. Probably not many Mormons. Thanks California Dems!)
But you know what? My partner and I of 16 years couldn't give a shit less what you think of our relationship, or what the government, or Obama thinks about it. But we're lucky enough to have the resources to not have to care. Liberals like you should care about the young gay couples who are floundering in this economy and who need the government goodies that you support, but who you only want to give to straight couples right now, because Obama's political future is more important than fairness to them.
Oh, and proof you're an idiot: "I dont know how disowning Obama after 5 months in Office will solve your problems." Did it occur to you that many gay couples' "problems" are because they don't get federal benefits that you do? Benefits that would help them through this tough economy (which has to be an added strain to a relationship that is inherently more challenging than any yours could ever be, not counting the challenge that you're strident idiocy brings)?
It's clear that you couldn't really give a shit less about gay couples at all. You are mad about the "faux" war. (Which one? Iraq or Afghanistan? At least you're right about one thing: There really isn't a war in either place because they're both stabilized now, especially in Iraq.) You are mad that some people still believe in the free market. You are mad that health company executives and oil company executives make more money than you.
That is what you really care about, not the rights of gay couples. Otherwise, you would not view DOMA's defense as a "minor setback." How about this. Let's nullify whatever relationship you have with someone you love, and see what a minor setback that would be to you. You fucking idiot.
I got caught up in the rock star thing, too, but it's time to admit we've been duped by a very crafty politician.
And to think I used to laugh at the fundamentalists who let the Republicans jerk them around.
Fool me once...
This has to be big on the next few news cycles and Sunday morning shows right?
just like bush, the country voted for him and now we have to face the consequences of making another bad choice when it comes to picking presidents.....
maybe next time, people will actually pick a president with experience and not just talk......
There seem to be a lot of invalid arguments being made in this brief. Wouldn't a good team of lawyers on the other side have a chance at winning against the DOJ.
Must of the crap they cite here was debunked in the Iowa Supreme Court decision.
YOu've already posted the study that debunks their cost containment argument.
Loving v Virgina would seem to be on point.
The complete circular logic of saying gays aren't being denied anything they had before they were married is ridiculous. No one, gay or straight, is entitled to marriage benefits BEFORE they get married.
Post like yours just give the Radical Right all the Fuel they need, you are a very scary person.
Again, show me any evidence of your accusations of Obama administration being a Homophobe !! This administration has yet, as far as I have seen Never used the incest argument. You might think he is, but you would be wrong. Unless you can show me where he has stated he believes that.
You can read between the lines just like the Bible beaters do, and look just as foolish. Or you can deal with the actual facts. I have no Blinders, but unlike you I am not looking at the world with Pink Glasses, I live in reality, were everything takes work, discussions and agreements, not edicts.
Can't you do any research yourself? the 54 page document in question is located at: http://www.americablog.com/2009/06/obama-justic...
You are so reading in between the lines to come to your conclusion. Let me break it down for you, Just because something is lawful in one place or state, doesn't not require another state to allow it, if it conflicts with that states laws. He is not comparing same sex marriage to Incest or pedophilia, but if that is what you see....well ?
From the beginning, Pres. Obama stated that Same Sex Marriage should be left to each individual state to determine. This is not a news flash.
Now if you wish to continue to read between the lines and come to your own prejudice notions, then carry on. See something that is not there. I do not see that in what is written.
You cannot be serious. The THREE issues central to GLBT are ENDA, DADT, and DOMA (I'm sick of this alphabetic soup as I am of Obama's 180-degree reversals). Secretary Gates informs us that DADT has little or no chance of passage -- ever. And ENDA, where is it?
Oh, and NO REPUBLICAN Administration since Eisenhower has EVER drawn parallels of GLBT to incest and pedophilia. In fact, it was Reagan's observation that homophiles are NOT pedophiles that lead to his OPPOSITION to Proposition: The Briggs Initiative (1978), and as president copious funding of NIH research for AIDS.
Me thinks YOU have blinders and scales on your eyes.
By chance I received a solicitation for $$ in the mail this afternoon from, you guessed it, the Demo's. I took his suggestion and returned their donation card (free postage to boot) with the notation in large red letters across the front stating: No Gay Rights, No Gay Dollars!
I intend to do this from now on and also to express this sentiment in any other venue where it is appropriate.
Conclusion:
DODT will not end.
DOMA will remain.
Hey but, Civil Unions are still open.
Did you know it has been 40 years since the Stonewall Riots, did you know it was the Cross Dressers, Drag Queens & Lesbians that started the Riots, and yet a majority of Gay Men still have prejudice feelings against Transgendered, Drag Queens and Lesbians. We are so discriminative in our own community and yet we demand all others to accept us!
It has taken us 40 years to get where we are, waiting a couple more, giving President Obama some time in office before we label him a heretic.
We so hate the labels placed on us, and yet we are so quick to label others.
The Democratic Party LGBT Leadership Council
Brian Bond
Executive Director
gllc@dnc.org
Thomas Petrillo
Finance Director
PetrilloT@dnc.org
Dear Mr. Bond and Mr Petrillo,
The following is a letter to Barney Frank and Tammy Baldwin. It will be snail mailed to them. You and they need to know that it is being sent to our mailing list and I am encouraging those on the list to forward it to every one they know.
The Obama administration has declared war on our community. We obviously have zero influence on this administration. We need to stop financing our own oppressors.
To Representatives:
Barney Frank
Tammy Baldwin
2446 Rayburn Building
Washington DC, 20515
June 16th.
Today is our Anniversary. We have been together 39 years. We are discriminated against at every turn by the federal government. The administration has declared war on our community. We need to stop financing our own oppressors.
We are consistent if small donors to your political career. It is time for action not just platitudes.
Why would we want to give you another cent if you attend the dinner for Joe Biden, after the administration’s insulting and vicious attack on us? We will encourage every person we know, LGBT and our allies, to stop supporting those who give approval to our oppressors.
It is time for our leaders and community to show some backbone. We will be watching your actions.
Furiously,
Ronald M and Richard D
In their small minds, are all lumped in to one big scary pile labeled 'deviants' - doesn't matter which flavor - and are told repeatedly that we are lucky that we are even allowed to live.
Only a matter of time before 10% of the population gets scapegoated for bad times caused by the other 90%.
But where do you go when they start stuffing cattle cars and furnaces with us?
Gee, did I just equate Obama to Hitler? Well, Politicians are all the same - just like us deviants!
Either that - or he's really BI, and has done this as a way to distance himself from certain tabloid allegations.
Either way - homophobia and bigotry win.
In their small minds, are all lumped in to one big scary pile labeled 'deviants' - doesn't matter which flavor - and are told repeatedly that we are lucky that we are even allowed to live.
Only a matter of time before 10% of the population gets scapegoated for bad times caused by the other 90%.
But where do you go when they start stuffing cattle cars and furnaces with us?
Gee, did I just equate Obama to Hitler? Well, Politicians are all the same - just like us deviants!
Either that - or he's really BI, and has done this as a way to distance himself from certain tabloid allegations.
Either way - homophobia and bigotry win.
I read a www.streamingmagazine.com article that was really weird but slightly funny. It was called: "Gays to Get More Rights, at Least the Federal Ones." It was a bit insulting, the way it was written,k but a bit funny.
Here's the link, too: http://www.streamingmagazine.com/gays-to-get-mo...
the army,and 11 year old Carl Walker-Hoovers death by scuicide(connect the dots) What the Obama administration says about gays matters and has consequences.Shame !!!
Our President needs to use his articulate voice to educate others..