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How about you understand the comparison, first? Not only are there no gays, there is someone given a prominent position who is actively, vocally anti-gay.
You won't see that from Obama's camp in regards to any other minority EXCEPT for GLBT folk.
Now I'm waiting for him to backtrack on repealing DADT. That's next. He'll say something about "not the right time" or "need more time to build consensus and bring conservatives to the table".
In other words, no matter how strongly and how overwhelmingly people voiced their desire for change, Obama the appeaser is going to continue to let the conservative minority control the agenda.
Nonetheless, you get a ^5 from me.
Being sexually ACTIVE is a choice you make. Gay people have the same choice as straights. They can choose to be sexually active or can choose to be celibate. But, choosing to be celibate doesn't mean that they stop being gay. In only means that due to societal pressures and bigotry, they choose to live a lonely and loveless existence.
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How about you make a valid comparison? The reason you are freaking out is because your outrage is limited to something that is only in relation to you. You want to make everyone else who were left out to be lesser than you.
You are the ones who suffer the most. mmhhmm...tell that to the native community who suffer every day at the hands of the gov't
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right, where were you in American history class?
So, yeah, John, what about Janet Napolitano?
When she comes out, we'll talk about joy.
The fact remains that a very well known prominent gay person has been nominated for one of the most powerful cabinet positions. Whining because she's not out (she would never have gotten as far as she has politically if she was) is complete bullshit.
I agree with Fireblazes in that this is getting ridiculous that there has to be a litmus test on how many gay cabinet members Obama has appointed. Obama still has 357 more posts to fill. I am sure there will be many gays in these posts. Obama has prominent members of his team that are gay including Hilledbrand who is openly gay.
Time to cut off our noses to spite our faces.
And Clinton had no gay cabinet members but he did have gay Sr. WH Staff members. More than Obama can say. Right now, Bush's hiring record for gays in his administration is better than Obama's.
Of course, we'll also be reminded that we are expected to make sacrifices for our country - which really means sacrifices of our freedom for the "religious" bigots. Nothing new - no change there.
We'll have the same separate-but-equal policy from this Administration and we'll be told to support marriage segregation.
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The Rev. James L. Bevel, a prominent figure in the civil rights movement whose legacy was clouded by an incest conviction has died, a relative said. He was 72.
Bevel died Friday in Virginia after a fight with pancreatic cancer, said a daughter, Chevara Orrin, who lives in Winston-Salem, N.C. He was recently released on bond while appealing a 15-year prison sentence.
Bevel was a top lieutenant to Martin Luther King Jr. and architect of the 1963 Children's Crusade in Birmingham, Ala. But in April, a jury convicted Bevel of incest for having sex more than a decade ago with a then-teenage daughter.
Bevel served several months of his 15-year sentence before he was released in November on bond while appealing. Prosecutors opposed Bevel's release.
A Baptist minister, Bevel was a leader in the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee, two of the stalwart organizations that led efforts in the 1960s to desegregate the South. Decades later, he also helped organize the Million Man March.
"Jim Bevel was Martin Luther King's most influential aide," civil rights historian David J. Garrow said.
Bevel fought to desegregate downtown Birmingham stores, prompting police to respond with fire hoses and attack dogs against peaceful protesters. He also rallied young people in the city to get involved in civil rights demonstrations — something King and other advisers objected to.
On May 2, 1963, children marched from the 16th Street Baptist Church, and 600 were arrested on that first day of demonstrations. After the news media highlighted police commissioner Eugene "Bull" Connor's violent treatment of the children, public opinion began to shift in favor of the civil rights movement.
Two years later, Bevel was a key figure in the march from Selma to Montgomery, Alabama's capital. The demonstration was spurred largely by the killing of a young protester by an Alabama state trooper. The chain of events and police violence that was captured on national television ultimately culminated in the passage of the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/...
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Maybe they'll throw in an opportunity to let us serve dinner at the first big formal state bash.
Slaves were in chains. You could be in well appointed condo in DC enjoying wine and brie or elsewhere, but you are free and you are not in chains, at least not involuntarily. Your drama queen sissy bitch rants comparing your plight to that of the American black is sickening and belittles your cause.
I'm Black and I'm also gay. Let me get this right. Because gays have not suffered as much as Blacks, they don't get rights. Is that it?
Concerning your question, no that is not it. Because gays have not suffered as blacks does not mean anything to the fight for equal treatment for gays. However, to compare the American gay experience to the American slave experience is a joke and hurts an argument that can stand on its own without an ill advised and preposterous comparison
You are suggesting that gays wouldn't get fired if they would just ACT straight. Gays wouldn't be refused housing if they would just ACT straight. Gays wouldn't be beaten to death if they would just ACT straight. Gays would just have it so great if they would just ACT straight.
Prop H8 (as well as DOMA) both explicitly declare gays are not equal.
"Your drama queen sissy bitch rants comparing your plight to that of the American black"
"As you do unto the least of these, so you do unto me." Discrimination is an absolute. Either you are treating all humans as equals or you aren't. As all sins are equally damining before the Lord, the extent and/or longevity of the abuse is irrelevent - you're either on the side of the Lord and the patriots or the side of the Advesary and the fundamentalists. MLK or Bendict Arnold: your choice.
What degree of dead makes one minority more worthy then another?
Any chance a Constitutional Amendment would pass in the next 15 years or so on this issue?
I can only speak for myself, but I don't personally KNOW any black American slaves. I do know many many gay people who can't be out at their job so they have to pretend to be straight and hope no one finds out, because they would lose their jobs, their careers.
I know many gay and lesbian couples who drove up to Canada to get married before the birth of their child because they were raised with the values of their families and they wanted that piece of paper, that ceremony, that committment and tribute to their love.
I know plenty of gay and lesbian couples who worry about losing their own children. Who have lost their family's love. Who have lost the love of the churches in which they grew up as a child.
When I hear the government deciding which minorities can get married and which cannot, it's like a bad episode of the twilight zone. As my husband as often said to me, "How can two guys or two women getting married have ANY effect on our marriage?" It doesn't. If you don't believe in same sex marriage, don't marry someone of the same sex. Otherwise it doesn't affect anyone's marriage except the two adults involved.
I can't even believe we have to still have this discussion. It's so unnecessary except that a bunch of religious cults decided that the entire country has to abide by their personal religious cult's beliefs.
This is 2008. African Americans are a protected minority. They have civil rights. They can marry. They can't be denied housing or employment based on race. They are not excluded from churches based on race.
If you want to compare african american civil rights to gay civil rights, please stop all the "slaves didn't live in condos" remarks and have a real discussion about real issues that affect real lives of tax paying law abiding citizens every day. If I were gay I swear I would refuse to pay taxes until I had equal rights.
My Constitutional Amendment inquiry refers to the fact (yes it is a fact) that sexual orientation is not a suspect class and is not currently worthy of strict scrutiny under the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution. With that fact clear, then for uniform treatment across the states allowing gay marriage would require an amendment to the US Constitution. Any chanve this occurs?
exactly what do you believe about the lgbt community? Do they deserve the same equality as african americans enjoy? Do you believe that equality for gays is a civil rights issue or not?
Marital rights equality for gays is a civil rights issue and all should have the same marriage rights. The only way that is going to occur in all states is through a Constitutional amendment
Hope your slaves get their condo one of these days
Today, one can still be sentenced to death for being gay in this world and it wasn't until the Supreme Court ruled in this decade for Lawrence v state of Texas that it was against the law to arrest and charge gays with the crime of making love to one another.
Let's not make this a pissing contest to see who has suffered more under unfair laws and discrimination.
if you don't know what rights aren't given to gay people, start doing your homework. Here's your first one: Gay people can be fired from a job in MOST states. Not all of us "enjoy brie and wine" in our "well appointed condo" - where do you get this shit?
I come up with the bs wine and brie just to piss people like you off and to demonstrate that gays are for the most part free. Not many slaves could live in a DC condo and munch on brie.
Free, my fucking ass. You have no clue. .
When religious leaders speak out and condemn gays as evil sinners who are going to hell...children are listening. Gay kids get scared to death and straight kids are taught to hate and sometimes they act on that hatred with violence.
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how about being beaten and molested and raped simply because you spoke your native language? how about being beaten, molested and raped for having your own beliefs? how about being put in boarding schools because you were native? My grandmother and grandfather and My FATHER lived through that. Boarding schools. I've experienced racism on a frequent basis. I was abused my in high school because I was not white.
save me your histrionics, you are not the only group to suffer.
I feel for the gay community, I do. I've been living discrimination and racism my entire life as well. Not because I'm gay, but because I'm not white. at least gay people can just omit saying so. but i really can't hide my skin color, can i?
LGBT kids are the only minority that face the very real fear that their parents will not love them any more. They are the only minority that get thrown out of the churches where they were baptised as infants. They are the only minority that is denied basic civil rights that I take for granted. They are the only minority that it is still perfectly acceptable for the President of the United States to bash in his State of the Union Address and for our President Elect to insult by legitimizing and promoting a professional homophobe to speak at the very inauguration that was supposed to be a celebration for change. Where's the change for the LGBT community on this historic day?
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did you proofread this before hitting post? cuz this sounds ridiculous...and not in a point making sort of way....just in a false comparison sort of way.
again, at least you can hide your orientation....can you hide your skin color?
and anyway...how exactly can you tell your blacks parents to hate you when you are black? hmm? so many things wrong with your comparison....it's laughable.
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United States.
Remember before the civil rights era and even today....cuz it's still happening.
It is not against the law, but IS the law in Iran and Iraq that it is okay to kill gays because of whom they are because their religious leaders read the Quran literally and follow it to a "T". I do not know of any country where the law is written and followed by the people to given them permission to kill blacks with impunity. Although, our own country is not very far out of the woods on this issue.
Yes, it is the law in those countries to kill gays and that is happening today.
Yes, some gays can hide their sexuality and pas for straight. But, then again, there were some light skinned black who were able to pass for white as well.
Bigotry is bigotry no matter what. There doesn't need to be a contest to see who has suffered more in order to decide if gays have suffered enough yet to be able to be granted their civil rights.
Marriage is a glaring rights deprivation today. However, this does not make the comparison between the comparing the plight of gays tothe historical plight of the American slave sound.The comparison between the Amercan gay experience and the American slave experience is absurd and seriously promoting such a comparison demonstrates an irrational hysteria that is by no means persuasive.
Either way, Gays are less then second class citizens in this country.
White history has not been good to any minority.
Did you know that in the early 1960s, a man from North Carolina was arrested under our old soldomy law and sentenced to something like 90 years in prison? His lawyer thought that was inhumane and the courts agreed. As a result, NC's sodomy law was changed so that the sentence max was something like five or ten years. Just a few years later, in Winston-Salem, a party attended by Gay men was raided by police and their careers and lives ruined.
How many out teachers do you know, especially in rural areas? When's the last time you saw a scripted network tv show that didn't portray gays as a stereotype? How many times are books challenged each year in public libraries because of apparent gay or sexual content?
The gay experience isn't quite like the slave experience, but it's not dissimilar to the experience of African-Americans after slavery ended or to experiences of other people of color in the twentieth century - subject to violence, employment discrimination, censorship, legal problems, and stereotyped in the media.
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have you looked at statistics for Native Americans and suicide? You'll find it is at about the same and maybe worse. trust me, you aren't the only group that suffers for being something.
wrong yes, and I am totally for gay marriage and giving them their rights.
...But please, your plight is no where near my people's.
Put this in perspective:
To be like the evangelicals, gays must DEMAND that straights engage in gay sex. (Or, at best, just don't have sex for the rest of your life.) Sound stupid? Sure. But that is what they are doing. And for Obama to go along with this is really REALLY dumb.
"Coming together" with the likes of Rick Warren is no different than coming together with any other racist/bigot.
The sooner this country (and Obama) realizes this, the quicker this country can get out of this INSANE religious cult it is in. At first, I thought Obama was just rather naive. But now I am beginning to think he really IS a homophobe.
How insane is this: To get the Middle East WITH us, to get the American snake-handlers WITH us, we must go backwards in time. Damn! Oh yeah -- I forgot -- that's how blacks got the right to vote! That's how WOMEN got the right to vote! How insulting to all the blacks and women who died to get the vote. Somehow, Obama (and some gays) don't see the comparison. Nothing valuable was ever gained by singing kumbaya and making nice. As I have said before, gay rights were better in 19 fucking 70 than they are now. Gay rights seem to have gone backwards.
That's MY circle, and it is woefully underrepresented throughout our government. To a pathetic degree. Literally ANYONE from ANY other group, be it based on sex, race, religion, or whatnot, is more statistically far more likely to be elected or appointed to any position of power than a non-believer.
Gays don't go around forcing their beliefs on others, either. :o They simply want equality. Wishing to publicly display your affection for your lover, your life partner, your spouse, the ability to actually HAVE the latter, and have the state acknowledge that contract, and ALLOW a church that so wishes to likewise acknowledge that union before their God, is certainly not forcing their beliefs on others. It is a civil right that EVERYBODY deserves. Period. No separate but equal ANYTHING. Period.
Being "openly atheist" means one is able to talk publicly about their beliefs (or lack thereof) without fear of backlash. Currently, non-believers appear to be the literal bottom rung of individuals likely to get elected to any position if they publicly state their theological stance. Being here in the Bible Belt, where I live, DOES mean it can be downright dangerous in some areas to openly discuss such a stance. Deadly serious.
If your argument is that Rick Warren and his pathetic ilk are trying to force their beliefs on gays, to deny them rights...umm, hate to break it to you, but that crowd is very likely in my experience to likewise wish to abolish any non-believers, attempt to convert them (i.e. "cure" their "deviant" behavior), in much the same manner that they wish to force their beliefs on gays. The very group that Rick Warren represents simultaneously slaps gays, Jews, atheists, Muslims, and many more in the face, not merely the former group.
If you would like to send a message, I'd say join the Facebook group "Turn Your Back on Rick" (http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=logo#/...). If you are going to the inauguration, actually turn your back on the man throughout his invocation. It is a non-violent, very dramatic and crystal clear message to Rick Warren and to this administration at the same time. If I were going, that is precisely what I would be doing. Instead, I will spread the message to do just that where I can.
I am not going to the inauguration, but would suggest as many supporters as possible get there early for front row back turning. It might cause a "wave" affect.
Post after post here makes the claim that gays don't have the same struggle as blacks because gays can hide their sexuality. NOw you seem to be claiming that they can't . Or, can't hide it from YOU anyway. Because apparently you are able to discern a person'r sexual preference without them having acknowledged it.
The hyperbole in the header of this blog entry, "ONLY major minority not welcome" is just plain wrong, and is my major problem with this entry. People who consider themselves to be non-religious AND non-spiritual make up ~10% of this country. "Out" atheists and agnostics make up ~3% on top of that (for a total of ~13%, and growing rather quickly at that). LGBT's make up ~10% of the populace, half of them (about 5%) being "out" about it.. By comparison to LGBT, the former group is a wholly unrepresented major minority in government. Especially when going by the metric of being out about it as a prerequisite for it to count.
That's before even taking into account how many Muslims, Buddhists, or whatever other minority groupings one wishes to identify as, are in the cabinet? Many diverse groupings are currently unrepresented at the cabinet-level, and at least one, a grouping I identify with strongly (non-believers, be they atheist, agnostic, or uncaring about any deity one way or the other), is approximately the same % as the LGBT community, yet woefully, drastically less represented at all levels of government, and far less likely if out about said non-belief to be elected to public office.
As for the bullshit about the struggle of the LGBT community? Where have _I_ said that? I completely agree that LGBT folks have been ostracized in this country, struggled greatly, been beaten, murdered, lynched, banished for their natural tendencies, forced to hide.. You know, what with my own bisexual proclivities. I identify more as a non-theist, however, than I do as a bisexual, as I am now very happily in a loving relationship with kids (not married...a specific form of protest of my many LGBT friends who CANNOT get married). But thanks for assuming. :/ Incidentally, I find people much less understanding and tolerant of non-theism where I happen to live than they are of homosexuality or bisexuality, but not as frowned upon as transexuality or intersexuality.
A DEMOCRAT had to DEFEND HERSELF from attacks of being ACCUSED of being an atheist, as though it were an evil, horrible, vile insult to be called such, and there was little to no, "Why would it matter if I was an atheist? Replace atheist with <insert minority here, especially theist minority>, and try to accuse me like that again!", as was done when Muslim was being thrown around as an insult.
I'm starting to get bitter, where's my gun and my religion?
Hilarious!
Seriously though, why should it matter if there is no gay person in the cabinet. I mean if there was a "Secretary of Gay Affairs" (and you know what I mean) then it would be important, but I would prefer the top candidate, as possible, be appointed to a position rather than some token appointment. This is faux outrage and really, we're hardly the only minority not appointed as pointed out by several people above.
Perhaps you'd be more at home over at NoQuarterUSA.net.
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/ann-cou...
Then, all I'd have to say is "Godwin's Law," and your argument would disappear in a puff of illogic. Like it just did.
We are the entertainment.
Dance, gays, dance!
Play music for us!
Sing, gay, sing!
Make a joke, gay, make us laugh!
And when you're done, please go somewhere you can be forgotten.
You know, use the back door (please pardon the pun, as that is not my meaning here).
Leave by the servant's quarters if you will...
And don't start asking why you can't sit at the grown up table...
If you do, we'll call you uppity.
Do my hair, gay!
Decorate my house!
Then leave!
cf. George H.W. Bush saying with a straight face that Clarence Thomas was 'the most qualified candidate" for the Supreme Court (filling a seat vacated by Thurgood Marshall). Utter and total bullsh*t.
I think Obama's picks are not possibly going to represent all groups out there. For example, has he picked a disabled person? Has he picked an elderly person? Has he picked a Native American? (If not, that's arguably a significant insult: They were here first, and non-Natives screwed Natives over, big time.)
I mean, let's choose our battles. In my view, the Rick Warren matter is much more of an outrage , and worth protesting, fiercely.
Our best protest at this point is to send a mass mailing of our voter registration cards to the Democratic party with the words REJECTED written on them - along with a letter stating that we're codependent no more. We may only be 10% - but these bastards will not hold power long without us. We MUST stand together and state clearly that either they revoke Don't Ask Don't Tell, pass EDNA overwhelmingly, and launch a MASSIVE campaign to revoke all state constitutional amendments against us during these next two years, or we will STAY HOME in 2010.
For the record, Obama has nominated Nancy Sutley to be chairwoman of the Council on Environmental Quality, and there's also a good chance that he'll also nominate Bill White to become the Secretary of the Navy. Those are both high-profile positions in his administration, though not cabinet seats.
http://www.washingtonblade.com/thelatest/thelat...
"President-elect Obama plans to name Los Angeles Deputy Mayor Nancy Sutley, as chairwoman of his White House Council on Environmental Quality, a transition official said".
Lets see how far these tactics get us...
I'm sorry, but that comment made me spit wine on my keyboard. It was a great snark.
I'm pissed about Warren too but let's at least give him credit when he does appoint one of us.
What? Over-the-top hyperbole is the order of the day I thought.
It's truth!
Atheists: zero.
Hillary and Bill gave us DADT, and Bill signed DOMA into law. Why would she be better? I swear, some people and their love affair with Hillary. She made a specific move to the center when she became Senator, and no one balked. She said she would only repeal PART of DOMA and no one balked. But, she would be more gay friendly? Again, Obama isn't President yet. Let him actually take office and have a chance to do something.
I'll tell you what I do mind. That is the egregious kick in the teethe that is Reverend Tubby and his over the top insults. This is just totally unnecessary, totally unjustified, more insults coming against Obama's base even after he received his inaugural invitiation. Absolutely unprecedented behavior for any inaugural participant. It so pisses me off, the gratuitously insulting nature of it, that it makes me realize that Obama or anyone else could do this unless they were completely devoid of any core sensitivity about gay rights at all, completely lacking in any kind of any basic compassion for gay people. What kind of monster have we elected here? I don't even think John McCain would create this kind of perverse spectacle at his inauguration. It makes me wonder if the social contract is still binding, you know, the social contract that says that if you don't insult me, I won't insult you. Long ago we all gave up the use of the N* word and other disrespectful terms of address. Now I wonder whether that is still binding when blacks take away our right to marry in California and a black president elect chooses to insult us through his white trash surrogate, as pedophiles and accuses us of beastiality. Where does this go exactly Do we, in time return to former usages? Equal treatment being all the rage, are we now invited to begin referring to Obama as, "that N* President." I hope not; that would be a terrible thing. But Obama's buddies Rahm and Ricky need to pull it in a notch. A big notch.
The time will come when Obama will again need our support and our votes, which he received in this 52-48 election. That means he'd have lost the general if only 2% had voted the other way. That is about half of the gay vote. It is not unrealistic to say that we put him over the top. Bubba did the same thing. Thought he'd never need us again. Did as he pleased. He and Hillary found out that in close elections, they did need us again and we weren't there, in the caucuses. It'd be just an opinion, but I think DOMA and Don't ask, Don't Tell cost Hillary the election. Obama would do well to keep it in mind.
Obama needs to get out more. because what you are seeing is a Rahm E insularity taking hold, the walls going up. Judging from his lame response, it seems unlikely that Obama has any idea of the extent of the uproar going on around this, the first real blunder of the Obama administration.
It's also unfortunate passage of Prop 8 has seemed to allow racism within the gay community, which is prevalent, to come to the fore. It was latent before, thinly veiled now. Fantisizing about calling Obama the N-word? Yeah, I'm sure you really think that would be horrible.
And, no, we don't need to wait til we're dead to fight back. Been there, done that, with reagan, Bush and Clinton. We cut the Clintons some slack when they betrayed us and they just kept on doing it.
Speaking as a gay man, I'm tired of hearing gay people aren't good enough for real inclusion -- but we sure are the best for entertainin'.
And we thought minstrel shows were a relic of history. Not at all. Now that a black man is president, he has just replaced blackface with homos playing band instruments.
Screw that. If Obama doesn't have a real place at the table for gay people, let him find someone else to play the dinner music.
But now its back. This is truly a slap in the face to all who care about equal rights. I know I'll get over it and I do still hold out hope for this administration, but clearly, there are less controversial choices for the inauguration, and I WILL NOT BE SILENT!! NO NOS QUEDAREMOS CALLADOS!
And the tune the band should play on Inauguration Day is "Belgian Waffles" by Karen Finley.
"A Contribution to Marriage Equality"
She's letting her gay son decide where to send the money. Any suggestions? And yes, she's a pistol.
I said this before: I think a couple dozen people turning their backs on Warren wouldn't be all that effective, b/c let's face it, in that sea of O supporters, there wouldn't be that many people turning their backs.
I do have an interesting idea though. Lots of people are complaining about gays going after Obama on this one. You know what? I think it's great. We are CALLING HIM OUT. And we must continue to do so. Every time he offers a slap in the face, we will write blogs, write newspapers, write emails to his office. Every time he fails our expectations, doesn't live up to the miles we canvassed to get him elected, we MUST LET HIM KNOW. And we will. We aren't shutting up this time.
This is a sign of maturity of the movement, that Solomnese's letter was published in the Washington Post.
The last news post on protectmarriage.com, dated 12/2 and called "An ugly attack on Mormons," has this statement near its end: "My own view is that gay marriage is likely inevitable, and won't be nearly the disaster many of my fellow conservatives fear it will be."
And included in the H8 folks' court papers asking the Supreme Court to nullify the 18,000 same-sex marriages--a move that is nothing but vindictive--is the statement, "That body of decisional law [jurisprudence] commands judges--as servants of the people--to bow to the will of those whom they serve--even if the substantive result of what people have wrought in constitution-making is deemed unenlightened."
Despite the latest revelation that Obama is turning out to be a major disappointment with regard to our rights, the tide is turning our way, and even our enemies are starting to recognize and even acknowledge this. It's easy in this day and age of instant everything to get discouraged that things aren't moving more swiftly. Our time is coming. It's essentially unstoppable at this point.
I haven't checked this e-mail in a while. Well, of course some new plans of attack have come to light, including yesterday's hypocritical lawsuit asking that names of donors be kept anonymous.
Mike > Subject: [americablog] Re: Gays only major minority not welcome in Obama's cabinet> From: > To: lionman599@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 06:59:04 +0000> > willnyc wrote, in response to El Rojo:> > Great stuff el R. Are they (gasp) preparing to surrender? Or are they up to some new plan of attack? Wow - this really is exhausting!> > Link: http://www.americablog.com/2008/12/gays-only-ma...> > --> You may reply to this email to post your response. To turn off notifications, go to your Disqus settings at: http://disqus.com/settings/notifications/
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A real grassroots worker, intelligent, capable, hardworking, but passed over.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?stor...
This post brings to mind the Life of Brian part of the Palestinian terrorists complaining and saying "What have the Romans done for us?" Then the other answers and says "The aqueducts?" Then it goes on "Other than the aqueducts, what have the Romans done for us?" A: "The roads?" Q "Other than the aqueducts and the roads, what have the Romans done for us?"...
My point being my governor, Janet Napolitano, who I will be very sorry to lose to the Department of Homeland Security.
She's not out of the closet, but it's pretty well acknowledged that she is gay. Is she like the aqueducts, and doesn't count?
Now the discrimination matters cuz it's happening to a majority of you.
This presumably means that being gay (and OUT) should warrant "affirmative action" to push aside someone presumably more qualified (at least in BHO's opinion). So are youasking for THAT kind of pandering? Isn't that the same cronyism and crass politicization we've bitched about for eight years?
First the Warren tantrums, now this. Americablog posts these past few days have been a disappointing display of gay-centric narcissism. Is demanding special treatment in the name of equality likely to work? Is it what's best for true progress? When will the insightful and though-provoking posts from the gay perspective return, John?
WHINE!
This blog has evolved into queen bitchfest!
so i think in due time it will become real
you can not change being gay and people who do change
never really changed at all because the we're not gay to start with
Minority is a label
criples are Minorities
large people are Minorities
i dont realy care if you dont think its right
but this (lable) Minority will in time lose it value as
all of us will one day become a Minority
peace and (F) off