Why doesn't Obama just say no to the bailout? Here come the repubs:
Health Care, no we cannot. Improving education, no we cannot. Rebuilding our failing infrastructure, no we cannot. Policy focused on alternative energy, no we cannot. Unless, of course, we raise taxes.
tbhull
· 1 year ago
Strip Obama of the ability to effect change through these initiatives what happens to his appeal nationwide?
grandma
· 1 year ago
I agree....just read this on Kos:
So as Obama looks to invest in health care, alternative energy, education, and other Democratic priorities, watch Republican suddenly become born-again fiscal hawks, oh so concerned about the nation's finances and the unfortuante lack of funds to pursue such initiatives. All of a sudden, they'll become the nation's staunches defenders of your money, even though they watched Bush piss away trillions over the past eight years with nary a word of dissent.
"Unreadiness can be corrected, although perhaps at great cost, by experience. Can a dismaying temperament be fixed?"
It's about time the thinking Republicans started "thinking" about the better good of the country, not ideology. Real conservatives are as scared of a McCain/Palin ticket as are liberals.
bluestockton
· 1 year ago
With Palin on his ticket, this is bigger than McCain himself. The rapture nuts believe that divine intervention is why Dubya lost the popular vote but still became president. They see God intervening again in McCain's choice of Palin. They'd be THRILLED if McCain died in office, because that would make Palin president and Armageddon would commence. So arguments that McCain is unfit, physically or mentally, are lost on these characters. They're determined to vote for McCain-Palin because a vote for McCain is, to them, really a vote for Palin.
bluestockton
· 1 year ago
To clarify: the rapture nuts think that if McCain becomes president, God will bump him off so that Palin will take over.
tbhull
· 1 year ago
A female second coming? That almost never happends.
Ken Clark
· 1 year ago
Does that make her the anti-christ?
BarbaraGordon
· 1 year ago
Will's article isn't targeted at the whacko Republicans who will be voting for Palin regardless of anything that occurs. It is targeted at the fiscal and moderate Republican wing of the GOP. I think that he is the most well-known leading conservative to come forth thus far and I suspect that many more will do so. They do not want to see their fortunes go into the crapper under McCain.
borell
· 1 year ago
Headline is wrong -- Will didn't say that McCain isn't ready to be President -- Will said that McCain isnt FIT to be President.
michaelt
· 1 year ago
shouldn't we be revolting or something?
a gov't that runs amok certainly seems like good enough reason.
tbhull
· 1 year ago
An unelected Paulson telling a repub Sentator what the American people think in ostentatious and ridiculous.
sbobker
· 1 year ago
Let's take a trip back 39 years or so. John McCain is piloting his bomber over North Vietnam. No one can knock his bravery. It takes a very brave person to take off from an aircraft carrier and more so to land on that same moving object. Now as far as I can determine this particular flight was early in his combat experience. he had flown in combat only once or twice before. Anyway as he's pressing home his bomb run over North Vietnam a missile warning tone goes off. It's not exactly quiet or possible to ignore. McCain decides warning tone be damned, I'm gonna be a hero bomb this here power plant or bridge or whatever. Dad will be proud of me. So he flies on and so does the missile. McCain knows full well how to likely how to avoid the missile and knows that's what his commanders have ordered him to do. Planes and pilots are way too valuable to offer up as an easy missile target. Evade the the missile and go around again And again if necessary. Not our John. He flies straight on and so does the missile. BANG We lose a plane and a pilot and put the usual rescue teams at risk. That was really a poor decision. One of many. Hi, Sarah.
grandma
· 1 year ago
McCain has a new strategy......
.... the goal is to undermine Obama's reformer credentials during the economic crisis and to situate his ambition, putting him alongside corrupt Chicago politicians.
All McCain has is demonization of his opponent. And he can't even keep his message straight on that one.
Dems passing the bailout with an Obama yes vote makes it easy for McCain for even an incoherent senile McCain can adopt a populist no big government, no big money Wall Street to feed the corporate welfare mommas ticket.
There are quite a number of undecided indpendent voters, the large majority of which detest government spending and oppose this bailout in any form. These swing voters will dictate who sirts in the White House next year, as well as the make-up of Congress and the Senate.
My take is that Obama loses the White House if he votes for this bailout and it passes. Watch the vote and see the number of House and Senate repubs voting against this plan. This will also impact the house races nationwide.
grandma
· 1 year ago
From what I have been reading they may skip the bail out vote? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Candidates likely to skip bailout vote
Congress is poised to vote on the biggest government intervention in the financial markets since the Great Depression, but it’s unlikely that any of the three senators vying for the White House will be there – even though all three have talked of little else for over a week.
Sen. John McCain (R- Ariz.) has no plans to return to Washington this week, even though on Monday he expressed discomfort with Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson’s trillion-dollar bailout plan and has offered his own rescue proposal.
“Sen. McCain is monitoring the situation closely,” said campaign co-manager Steve Schmidt on a conference call Monday. “We will see how this unfolds this week.”
McCain “retains his rights to evaluate it as it goes along and make a final decision,” said co-manager Rick Davis.
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) also looks like a no-show.
That is even worse than voting yes. Plays into the present vote argument and is the ultimate sign of cowardice. It is akin to missing the Iraq War vote and then taking a position agaoinst the war. That will not work. They both need to vote. This is a once in a lifetime vote for most Senators.
lucky hussein
· 1 year ago
off topic, but would love to see a list of things we could have bought for 1 trillion $ instead of a war with Iraq or this bank bailout. For example, we could have 100 LHC colliders: http://technology.newscientist.com/channel/tech...
It's my understanding the amount is based on 5% of existing bad debt. I could be wrong.
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
For the duration of the Bush presidency, George WIll has said the fundamentals of the economy are strong. He doesn't get to criticize McCain without acknowledging his own stubborn misjudgment.
George Will just essentially endorsed Barack Obama. I think I just saw pigs flying outside my window. Has anybody checked the temperature in Hades?
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
"I don't care what that trollup George Will thinks! The man's nothing but a common c*nt!" - john mcsame
tbhull
· 1 year ago
Just think of the ungodly fees and commisions the government will pay the "experts", many of which will invariably come from Goldman Sachs, to unwind the shit pile. Hell, goldman Sach basically comes the government's broker to hand out taxpayer money to whover it chooses and at whatever price it desires.
nicho
· 1 year ago
Will is just worried that McCain won't be "conservative" enough. In other words, he's afraid McCain won't advance the agenda of the corporatocracy to turn the US lower classes -- bottom 98 percent -- into serfs.
George Will is a corrupt asshole and should be one of the first ones up against the wall.
nicho
· 1 year ago
No one should forget
In 1995, when the GOP took over Congress, George Will wrote that the GOP should put all the money for AIDS and all the money for public broadcasting in the same pot and then "sit back and laugh while the liberals fight over it."
I would gladly pay for the privilege of escorting Will up the gallows steps.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
he's the type of person you'd actually kinda want to get AIDS... of course, instead of realizing what an asshole he'd been all those years, he'd start whining 'why me'.
sorry, wouldn't wish AIDS on even dick cheney... but when you make a joke out of it, poetic justice would be if he actually became infected.
even more poetic justice... if his insurance wouldn't cover the drugs he'd need.
tbhull
· 1 year ago
Paulson in responding in opposition to giving the government equity basically said the only system that will wok is a government give away.
Paulson, the agent of greed, corruption and excess, needs to be strung up by his ankles in public for the buzzards to feast on his rotten soul that was sold long ago Mussolini style.
gumbygirl
· 1 year ago
George Will is unfit for the human race, but i agree with him here. OT: CNN told Palin they wouldn't cover her meetings with foreign mucky-mucks since she won't allow questions from reporters. Good for them;it's time someone stood up to this arrogant bitch and her outrageous demands.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Good for CNN !!
MNUSA
· 1 year ago
While I don't share Mr. Will's conservative outlook, it is admirable that he doesn't spew out the Repub talking points. We've had eight years of a president that shoots from the hip. We are on the edge of doom because of it. McCain certainly has more experience than Obama. But we've seen him flip-flop 180 degrees on so many issues since 2000. By picking Palin, McCain showed that he cares only about winning. If he actually thinks that being a sports commentator, mayor of a small town and a little over over a year as governor of one of our smallest most provincial states trumps several years of community organizing, a Harvard law degree, college instructor in constitutional law, many years in the Illinois legislature, one of our largest states, and his time in the U.S. Senate, then his judgment is seriously in question. Obama picked a senior statesman as his running mate. Where McCain is rash, Obama shows maturity, judgment and a willingness to consult with others to make decisions.
High Crimes & Misdemeanors
· 1 year ago
Point well made!!!!! These are the talking points folks for us bloggers and to reiterate to your neighbors!!!
High Crimes & Misdemeanors
· 1 year ago
Here is one to chew on today!!!!
---------------------------------------------- Palin bans reporters from meetings with leaders
By SARA KUGLER, Associated Press Writer 19 minutes ago
NEW YORK - Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, who has not held a press conference in nearly four weeks of campaigning, on Tuesday banned reporters from her first meetings with world leaders, allowing access only to photographers and a television crew.
CNN, which was providing the television coverage for news organizations, decided to pull its TV crew, effectively denying Palin the high visibility she had sought.
By the way, thw american taxpayer is not already on the hook for $700 billion, contrary to Paulson's assertion.
RevDrBillyBob
· 1 year ago
George Will is a Vietnam War Chickenhawk (i.e., favored the Vietnam War, as long as SOMEONE ELSE was doing the fighting) and ran away from military service, like the gutless hypocrite and coward that he is. As I found out, he REALLY hates it when you email him and tell him so. Just saying . . . .
High Crimes & Misdemeanors
· 1 year ago
I really wonder if he reads those. Would be great to be a fly in his study room....
EmGD
· 1 year ago
What, I wonder was it that made them vote for McCain in the first place and support him all these years? He's had these problems for quite some time, now they make him unfit? Georgie, maybe you should have been leading this charge eight years ago or even 9 months ago.
A quibble with the title of this post: Will doesn't say "not ready"; he says "not suited." "Not ready" would imply that with some time and experience, he might *become* ready, which would be a silly thing to say about McCain.
Will is also hedging by saying McCain is *arguably* not suited. But yes, he makes his point and it is a black eye for the Republicans.
Wild_Weasel
· 1 year ago
What are the NeoCons up to?
Move slowly in the financial fix.
Makapuu
· 1 year ago
As much as it pains me to agree with George Will, he is right on the money.
McBush doesn't have the temperament to be president. He also is apparently incapable of telling the truth. And, McBarbie is even less qualified to be vice president.
We've already had one president who has zero diplomatic skills, is is exceptionally bellicose, and eagerly lies to the public to promote his agenda.
We don't need another one.
landshark
· 1 year ago
Even the right wing stooges like Will, the far right (like Ron Paul) and the Dems (like Dodd) think this plan stinks to high heaven. Just because the system is broken, doesn't mean the American taxpayer should be forced to fix it. Maybe the arch criminals in the White House shouldn't have been running their con game of tax rebates for the wealthy and looking the other way the last eight years while the vultures circled and preyed on the rest of us. Or spending billions every month on a war we'll never win, and that will never end. This wasn't caused by the average taxpayer, and we don't stand to lose the way Wall Street hucksters and the lobbyists, con men, speculators, and other pondscum will. Let them wear oil barrels! And don't let the panic from the fear mongers running this retarded circus pull the wool over people's eyes again! The sky won't fall, the Chickenhawk Littles can lose all their assets, and will have to work for a living like the rest of us. Cry me a river, Paulson.
landshark
· 1 year ago
Even the right wing stooges like Will, the far right (like Ron Paul) and the Dems (like Dodd) think this plan stinks to high heaven. Just because the system is broken, doesn't mean the American taxpayer should be forced to fix it. Maybe the arch criminals in the White House shouldn't have been running their con game of tax rebates for the wealthy and looking the other way the last eight years while the vultures circled and preyed on the rest of us. Or spending billions every month on a war we'll never win, and that will never end. This wasn't caused by the average taxpayer, and we don't stand to lose the way Wall Street hucksters and the lobbyists, con men, speculators, and other pondscum will. Let them wear oil barrels! And don't let the panic from the fear mongers running this retarded circus pull the wool over people's eyes again! The sky won't fall, the Chickenhawk Littles can lose all their assets, and will have to work for a living like the rest of us. Cry me a river, Paulson.
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
John McCain has a fast deciding non analytical impulsive style that will NEVER be suited to the Presidency.
All Comments
...with a possibly Malignant Glioma...
Obama is now saying his spending initiative will be delayed by bailout.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/09/obama...
Why doesn't Obama just say no to the bailout? Here come the repubs:
Health Care, no we cannot. Improving education, no we cannot. Rebuilding our failing infrastructure, no we cannot. Policy focused on alternative energy, no we cannot. Unless, of course, we raise taxes.
So as Obama looks to invest in health care, alternative energy, education, and other Democratic priorities, watch Republican suddenly become born-again fiscal hawks, oh so concerned about the nation's finances and the unfortuante lack of funds to pursue such initiatives. All of a sudden, they'll become the nation's staunches defenders of your money, even though they watched Bush piss away trillions over the past eight years with nary a word of dissent.
Hypocrites, the lot of them.
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/23/1102/24...
It's about time the thinking Republicans started "thinking" about the better good of the country, not ideology. Real conservatives are as scared of a McCain/Palin ticket as are liberals.
a gov't that runs amok certainly seems like good enough reason.
So he flies on and so does the missile. McCain knows full well how to likely how to avoid the missile and knows that's what his commanders have ordered him to do. Planes and pilots are way too valuable to offer up as an easy missile target. Evade the the missile and go around again And again if necessary. Not our John. He flies straight on and so does the missile. BANG We lose a plane and a pilot and put the usual rescue teams at risk. That was really a poor decision. One of many. Hi, Sarah.
.... the goal is to undermine Obama's reformer credentials during the economic crisis and to situate his ambition, putting him alongside corrupt Chicago politicians.
All McCain has is demonization of his opponent. And he can't even keep his message straight on that one.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
There are quite a number of undecided indpendent voters, the large majority of which detest government spending and oppose this bailout in any form. These swing voters will dictate who sirts in the White House next year, as well as the make-up of Congress and the Senate.
My take is that Obama loses the White House if he votes for this bailout and it passes. Watch the vote and see the number of House and Senate repubs voting against this plan. This will also impact the house races nationwide.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Candidates likely to skip bailout vote
Congress is poised to vote on the biggest government intervention in the financial markets since the Great Depression, but it’s unlikely that any of the three senators vying for the White House will be there – even though all three have talked of little else for over a week.
Sen. John McCain (R- Ariz.) has no plans to return to Washington this week, even though on Monday he expressed discomfort with Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson’s trillion-dollar bailout plan and has offered his own rescue proposal.
“Sen. McCain is monitoring the situation closely,” said campaign co-manager Steve Schmidt on a conference call Monday. “We will see how this unfolds this week.”
McCain “retains his rights to evaluate it as it goes along and make a final decision,” said co-manager Rick Davis.
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) also looks like a no-show.
http://revolutionradio.org/2008/09/23/candidate...
http://technology.newscientist.com/channel/tech...
Or we could have like 90 SSCs that would have beat the LHC too it. Of course the SSC was killed by congress in 93, too expensive..
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14018970....
I want to know why $700 billion. Why not $100 billion, with Treasury going back to Congress when/if it needs more? Why $700 billion?
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/23/1102/24...
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/13/george-will...
George Will is a corrupt asshole and should be one of the first ones up against the wall.
In 1995, when the GOP took over Congress, George Will wrote that the GOP should put all the money for AIDS and all the money for public broadcasting in the same pot and then "sit back and laugh while the liberals fight over it."
I would gladly pay for the privilege of escorting Will up the gallows steps.
sorry, wouldn't wish AIDS on even dick cheney... but when you make a joke out of it, poetic justice would be if he actually became infected.
even more poetic justice... if his insurance wouldn't cover the drugs he'd need.
Paulson, the agent of greed, corruption and excess, needs to be strung up by his ankles in public for the buzzards to feast on his rotten soul that was sold long ago Mussolini style.
----------------------------------------------
Palin bans reporters from meetings with leaders
By SARA KUGLER, Associated Press Writer 19 minutes ago
NEW YORK - Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, who has not held a press conference in nearly four weeks of campaigning, on Tuesday banned reporters from her first meetings with world leaders, allowing access only to photographers and a television crew.
CNN, which was providing the television coverage for news organizations, decided to pull its TV crew, effectively denying Palin the high visibility she had sought.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080923/ap_on_el_pr...
By the way, thw american taxpayer is not already on the hook for $700 billion, contrary to Paulson's assertion.
http://thesebastards.blogspot.com/
Will is also hedging by saying McCain is *arguably* not suited. But yes, he makes his point and it is a black eye for the Republicans.
Move slowly in the financial fix.
McBush doesn't have the temperament to be president. He also is apparently incapable of telling the truth. And, McBarbie is even less qualified to be vice president.
We've already had one president who has zero diplomatic skills, is is exceptionally bellicose, and eagerly lies to the public to promote his agenda.
We don't need another one.