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It's crazy, I know but this is the far right we're dealing with.
All trade and travel would have to be negotiated, and until that happened, nothing would move in or out. Food and fuel prices would skyrocket almost immediately.
The theocratic law that would be established would quickly become all-consuming...one could accuse ones neighbor of lawbreaking for just about anything. Religious freedom would be gone, meaning the various denominations would be eventually banned, with only one dominant group left in power, if they could amass enough votes.
The rest of the US could decide that dealing with the Nation of Texas or the Republic of Georgia simply was not worth it. Their economy would collapse.
Colleges and universities would be de-accredited immediately, meaning students would simply stop attending there.
People would leave in droves, especially minorities. Clearly, civil rights would be repealed.
I say we let Georgia or Texas secede for a while, and then when they want back in, say no, until all rights are restored.
Here's the link, some of the pictures are pretty hilarious: http://www.nwitimes.com/articles/2009/04/16/new...
Still, you do have to keep an eye out for the loons that would actually act on all this inciteful rhetoric. I keep thinking that an assassination attempt or another Oklahoma city is exactly what these nutjob far right leaders want.
You wish. You forget, it could work. To be frank, I see remarkably little evidence that anyone is willing to stand up to these bullies. A possible outcome is they succeed in cowing the country into submission, especially if what's left of the news media decides to continue playing along. It's really easy to pretend that this represents some gigantic leap, but as you correctly pointed out, they've been slowly raising the temperature for almost a year.
By the midterm elections, having armed citizen militias guarding the polls will be the only reasonable recourse since they can't let ACORN operatives steal the elections like they did in 2008. You remember all the intimidation and violence they did back then, don't you?
I wish to hell I thought that was sheer paranoia talking instead of a marginally plausible scenario.
As a determined progressive and Democrat, I suffer every election season from the dimwittedness of the Republicans and conservatives surrounding me, and how they seem bent on destroying any benefit to living in Georgia, as I have for the last 15 years.
Although I'd miss the beautiful spring and fall seasons....
GB
Does this make them the new "turrorists"?
Oh -- buh-bye now. We're closing all our military bases, rescinding all our government contracts, taking away highway funds, and de-certifying your colleges and universities. We'll build nice big walls around both Texas and Georgia, so we don't get any "illegals" trying to steal our jobs.
Have a nice day.
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peaches n diesel?
suddenly Eric Clapton is playing in my head :-)
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I think you're wrong about that... they WANT something to happen. why? then every GOP operative that's been saying Obama is making the US 'less safe' or 'open to terrorist attacks' will be proven right.
inciting to violence is a crime... unfortunately, prosecuting it would be considered 'partisian politics' and strengthen the GOP.
we're in a big catch 22 here... seriously.
so the states threaten to cecede... then what? do we send in the national guard? that'd fan the flames as well.
Obama needs to speak more, calm people... unite them. any actions against this have to come from the PROGRESSIVE grassroots, not the government.
get a movement together with no ties to the government, a coalition of citizens bent on getting rid of these treasonist asshats.
they're the fringe of the fringe... but people are hurting, which drives them toward the dark side.
As Theocrats, they've proven just how much they hate to lose and more dangerous than that, how willing and eager they, their elected officials and Fox news are to call for secession, revolution and armed rebellion.
The question then becomes, what do civil Americans on both sides of the political isle do with these amongst us who would seek answers with bullets rather than the voting both?
they may be loud, but they're driving people away.
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A few duly elected officials, crazy tho they may be, are calling for secession or some form of violence against those they disagree with. (See the latest story from Illinois.)
We ignore these types at our peril.
I was a teenage Republican, but Nixon inspired me to turn Dem.
If SC were to secede, I'm willing to bet that Charleston, viewed with great suspicion by the rest of the state, would stick with the Union it once reviled. I hope so...this could all be great fun.
When will the stupid end?
God almighty, please let them go, and take those Lone Star morons with them, along with Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and that's just for starters -- just imagine how much our infant mortality numbers would shoot up without these states.
Go for it, tough guys. The sooner the better.
I predict the country of Texorgia will be at war with Iran in no time flat.
So if they secede, better figures as to unwed mothers and fewer dollars on Just Say No to Sex, Kids for the US.
Where the hell is the downside? Go tomorrow fer Chrissakes!
Just let me know when I need a passport to fly into Atlanta, that's all I ask.
I guess they will have to send their daughters across the borders for abortions while at the same time teaching 'creation science' and waiting for the rapture. Think of all of the un-manned vehicles.
It just gets crazier and crazier and more desparate. I guess peace and prosperity are way over rated for these folks.
My God! You are right. Talk about a terrifying prospect, I doubt even Republicans could live in their own version of this nation. If we let them succeed, they would be banging on our doors in six months begging to be readmitted to the union. It would permanently cure them of their right wing, neoconservative and Republican agenda. They would probably be so liberal would make the communists head spin and scare even those communists. Sigh! Well, I can dream can't I?
And there goes the revenue stream to feed the rest of the nuts who'll be living across the rest of the state in isolation without paved roads or streetlights or police or firemen, wondering WTF just happened.
These are the idiots who won't realize that next time a tornado or another drought comes through, they will be left to fend for themselves.
It could be called the New America South.
President Obama couldn't possibly have won the presidency. He is a black guy, a Muslim, a terrorist, a Marxist, an African, a socialist, a drug dealer, a homosexual, a liar, a cheater, a ... what did I leave out?
funny, I wonder how long the line to the men's room was at any given rally... I mean, it WAS a teabagging event promoted by the GOP right?
There is no teabaggery like Republican teabaggery...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LDvMFcj4tw
Second, how long will the citizens of TX and FL put up with this secessionist idea when all the NASA and military jobs are moved out of their new countries and transferred to that foreign land, the U.S. of A.?
Let them marry their cousins, teach religion instead of science and when they get real hungry they can eat the Bibles they've been trying to shove down OUR throats.
BUH-BYE!!!!!
Wonder how many Timothy McVeighs Obama is going to have to deal with before the end of his term(s)? So many nutjobs out there, so few investigators
Don't know if it was discussed much here, but another Republican ploy, Sarah Palin, had/has strong ties to the secessionist and white supremacist movements. Wayne Madsen covered this pretty extensively, and I would prefer to just defer to his description of the network...
"Palin's and her husband's dalliances with the Alaska Independence Party (AIP), which advocates the secession of Alaska from the United States is the tip of a web of organizations that count among their membership extreme right-wing elements, many of whom also participate in Republican Party candidate selection and the lobbying of Republican members of Congress on behalf of Big Tobacco, Big Mining, Big Agra, and the small arms and defense industry clients.
"The AIP is part of a network of extreme right-wing secessionists around the country, many of whom are linked to white supremacist causes. [...] Also attracted to the convention were a number of Southern secessionist movements, including the League of the South; the Southern Caucus; the Southern National Congress; and Christian Exodus, which advocates the secession of South Carolina as an independent republic governed by the Ten Commandments as the foundation of law.
"The various Southern secessionist groups are part of a wider web of organizations that push the neo-Confederate line, including the Southern Legal Resources Center (SLRC); Sons of Confederate Veterans (SCV) (which has a camp named after President Abraham Lincoln assassin John Wilkes Booth); United Daughters of the Confederacy (UDC); Order of Confederate Rose; organizations that honor Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest, the founder of the Ku Klux Klan; and various Southern Parties in states such as North Carolina and Georgia. The Southern Party wants to re-establish the Confederacy of the original 11 states plus Oklahoma, Missouri, Kentucky, West Virginia, and Maryland. The League of the South publishes a secessionist magazine, 'Southern Patriot.'"
Please don't throw me in the old briar patch.
Anything but that.
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