Scariest, most tragic proof: the summit of Kilimanjaro.
red_dwarf
· 9 months ago
No ice for the 1st time in over 10,000 years. CO2 levels increasing to levels not seen in several hundred thousand years. Millions of species will die off, climate patterns will change, etc. But why we should care? We're American's. We have a God-given right to pollute.
There are no bounds to the ignorance of the human race.
pdxprobert
· 9 months ago
Why is this supposed to be new news? Ive read that the lower SW USA (parts of Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and California) as well as Mexico will become inhabitable due to extreme heat conditions... and the migration of people from those areas will place a burden on the natural resources of the areas they migrate to..
The Pacific NW is supposed to be a destination point for many fleeing those unlivable conditions... border patrols might be between states when these super heated conditions begin to influence peoples decisions on where to go next...
Steve_in_CNJ
· 9 months ago
if CO2 source is underestimated it's important. however, i can't find where he's getting this from. as a conference paper, it's probably not peer reviewed. have to wait for publication.
I've read that report in a couple of places over this weekend. I don't know enough about the science to challenge the statements but I do know enough about people to think that someplace along the line, someone is going to have to come up with a reasonable explanation of why winters seem to be getting more violent. I really don't see how this is limited to global "warming."
We're experiencing climate change, certainly, but the parameters of the change are not well defined when only part of the scenario is presented. Less Armageddon and more science would be helpful.
It's the 2007 report from the U.N. and pretty much the gold standard on climate science (though the language was softened to get the US to sign off on it).
To be honest, tho, I just have to hear that they're opening up shipping lanes in the arctic to know that things are getting "warmer."
Global climate change also includes oceanic current shifts and the possible shift or stopping of the Gulf Stream. Makes sense to me...
Indigo
· 9 months ago
That scares me! I live in Florida where the coast is kept warm by the Gulf Stream. If it gets too hot, the weather could become unlivelable here. On the other hand, if the Gulf Stream stopped, something tells me the peninsula would quickly revert to mangrove swamps.
JackDallasQueer
· 9 months ago
Real nice...we exported job after job to India, where they use computers to do their horrid telemarketing and customer service, where they are burning coal to use their tech, where they work for tiny wages, thus increasing the profits for their American CEOs who are making sure that this cycle continues so they can play golf with the CEO of Exxon and Chevron who make sure we cannot have electric cars at least here in the US because of battery patent stealing...Nothing to see here, keep moving, the GOP will rise again on GOD GUNS and GAYS. We deserve to burn in the coming global fires for being too lazy and stupid to stop these people from having all this control.
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 9 months ago
Hello, this is Rajiv, I mean Randy, I am here to assist with your Dell computers needs. Tell me, how are the Yankees doing. I mean, sir, how about those Yankees at the Yankee Stadium? They are so great, are they not? I love cricket, I mean baseball. My mother and five sisters are all Yankees fans. Now, to the matter at hand, is your Dell computer green power light illuminated? If not, I suggest you depress the button for 12 seconds--I shall count for you: one, two, three, four . . .
Ruthless Gravity
· 9 months ago
Kind of interesting:
If you prefer a customer service agent who speaks "American," then computer maker Dell has a deal for you.
Catering to consumers put off by the accents of Bangalore, Manila and other call-center hubs around the globe, Dell will guarantee -- for a price -- that the person who picks up the phone on a support call will be, as company ads mention in bold text, "based in North America."
The Your Tech Team service, with agents in the United States, costs $12.95 a month for customers with a Dell account, or $99 a year for people who buy a new computer. It also promises that wait times will average two minutes or less. Without the upgrade, a customer is likely to get technical help from someone in India, the Philippines or the other places where Dell has operators.
We have a Mac, but I don't know if we'll ever be able to buy another one. They cost an arm and a leg.
missyme
· 9 months ago
Jack, isn't that amazing? They are also the same people who don't want taxcuts for the poor and middle class, the same people that want to privatize social security, that want taxcuts for the rich, that want a reduction of education funds and health care funds; they believe that creating jobs is not the way to go. Instead they want to continue the policies of the past eight years. Please do not forget that they are the ones who "believe in God". If you happen to believe in God and you say it, they will tell you that their God is a better God than yours. Well, let's put it this way: I hope that I won't be around to see them all burn in hell.
cowboyneok
· 9 months ago
Republicans have never been able to say NO to protecting their risks through bailouts, but by G-d we better not socialize anything that might help the little people! Its called Socialized Corporate Welfare and HYPER-Extreme Capitalism for the Middle Class. When Republicans claim "class warfare" punch 'em in the nose and explain its "self defense."
Rob Mule
· 9 months ago
OT-- well-known Chinese blogger and novelist is recovering after he was stabbed by unidentified assailants as he gave a talk in a Beijing bookshop this weekend.
Audience members apparently heard one of the attackers accuse him of "offending" people, leading friends and readers to suggest he was targeted because of his outspoken blog.
We can't do much about volcanic CO2 emisssions; but we could stop forest fires. The service is not allowed to put firebreaks on government land. A cubic foot of wood puts out about as much CO2 as 5 gallons of burning oil. A million acre forest fire, depending on the density of trees, could be the equivalent of burning a billion gallons of crude oil. Time for some change.
cowboyneok
· 9 months ago
If we taxed Republicans for being the gas bags they are then we could use the money to build GREEN industries and jobs.
cowboyneok
· 9 months ago
Its okay... the Republicans claim its all a hoax.
(Koalas have always approached human beings for drinks of water to keep from dying of dehydration...)
During Senate debate in Oklahoma, Senator Inhofe, claims G-d is cooling the earth:
Of course, he won the election here in Oklahoma. PUKE!
RainbowPhoenix
· 9 months ago
And kangaroos have always enjoyed swimming in the ocean.
unrepentant_expat
· 9 months ago
One day soon they can enjoy having a hot bath in the ocean.
Ruthless Gravity
· 9 months ago
No offense, but I don't know how you can stand living with people like that.
I would have went nuts a long time ago.
cowboyneok
· 9 months ago
Its important for me to remain to ensure they don't try to start building the Nazi Fourth Reich. If I left, who would rattle the cages around here?!!? Seriously, someone has to tell them to sit down and STFU.
maudgonne
· 9 months ago
An Apache helicopter-gunship had just been blazing away at Taliban fighters up ahead when the Afghan farmer ambled up to the Gurkha soldier in the field for a chat. He was concerned, he said, that his community was missing out on the wheat allocation which others had been getting further north. In the midst of the mayhem the young Gurkha talked patiently to the white-bearded Afghan in a mixture of Pashtu and Urdu. The wheat situation certainly seemed unfair, he nodded, and he would pass on the complaint to the appropriate people.
The scene south of Garmsir, in Helmand, may seem somewhat surreal. But it is not unusual for the Gurkhas in Afghanistan to combine warfighting with community relations. For British forces it is a valuable way of keeping contact with the population in a conflict which will ultimately be decided on who wins the battle for hearts and minds. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/th...
JustAnOldLady
· 9 months ago
So in addition to the cost of the stimulus that we're passing along to the next generation, we're also passing on an uninhabitable planet........
Older_Wiser
· 9 months ago
This isn't anything new about developing countries which American corporations have invaded for cheap labor and non-regulation of carbon dioxide emissions, safety standards, etc. These things were being pondered in the late 60s and early 70s. After all, with combined populations around 2.5 Billion right now, to bring them into anything even close to the standard of living enjoyed by western countries at the same level of pollution as practiced by western countries would bring far more damage than anything done so far.
While everyone in developing countries deserves a decent life, western countries don't have to export the most poisonous manifestation of western life--consumerism for its own sake which has almost destroyed us, both economically and to the detriment of the existence of humans.
If China and India want to out-think western countries, they would be wise to pursue green solutions immediately and eschew the model of "development" and dying cultural phenomena based on consumption that corporations have sold them.
I keep thinking of Manhattan being sold for $24 worth of trinkets and can't help making the connection with developing countries selling themselves to western profiteers without consideration of future consequences of doing so.
Peter
· 9 months ago
The URL for the sy link has a spurious terminal '--remove this to see the story.
where's my bailout
· 9 months ago
It's time to plant trees people. Plant them anywhere you can. Seeds are free.
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There are no bounds to the ignorance of the human race.
The Pacific NW is supposed to be a destination point for many fleeing those unlivable conditions... border patrols might be between states when these super heated conditions begin to influence peoples decisions on where to go next...
the bbc link wasn't working for me but here is the wash post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...
We're experiencing climate change, certainly, but the parameters of the change are not well defined when only part of the scenario is presented. Less Armageddon and more science would be helpful.
www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=21429&Cr=...
It's the 2007 report from the U.N. and pretty much the gold standard on climate science (though the language was softened to get the US to sign off on it).
To be honest, tho, I just have to hear that they're opening up shipping lanes in the arctic to know that things are getting "warmer."
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/09...
If you prefer a customer service agent who speaks "American," then computer maker Dell has a deal for you.
Catering to consumers put off by the accents of Bangalore, Manila and other call-center hubs around the globe, Dell will guarantee -- for a price -- that the person who picks up the phone on a support call will be, as company ads mention in bold text, "based in North America."
The Your Tech Team service, with agents in the United States, costs $12.95 a month for customers with a Dell account, or $99 a year for people who buy a new computer. It also promises that wait times will average two minutes or less. Without the upgrade, a customer is likely to get technical help from someone in India, the Philippines or the other places where Dell has operators.
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2...
Audience members apparently heard one of the attackers accuse him of "offending" people, leading friends and readers to suggest he was targeted because of his outspoken blog.
No Bush-style executive ISP's showing up on any Chinese blog tracker...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/feb/15/chi...
Plus--Michael Jackson redefines excess:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/gallery/2009/fe...
(Koalas have always approached human beings for drinks of water to keep from dying of dehydration...)
During Senate debate in Oklahoma, Senator Inhofe, claims G-d is cooling the earth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f1ciYsxP7E
Of course, he won the election here in Oklahoma. PUKE!
I would have went nuts a long time ago.
The scene south of Garmsir, in Helmand, may seem somewhat surreal. But it is not unusual for the Gurkhas in Afghanistan to combine warfighting with community relations. For British forces it is a valuable way of keeping contact with the population in a conflict which will ultimately be decided on who wins the battle for hearts and minds.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/th...
While everyone in developing countries deserves a decent life, western countries don't have to export the most poisonous manifestation of western life--consumerism for its own sake which has almost destroyed us, both economically and to the detriment of the existence of humans.
If China and India want to out-think western countries, they would be wise to pursue green solutions immediately and eschew the model of "development" and dying cultural phenomena based on consumption that corporations have sold them.
I keep thinking of Manhattan being sold for $24 worth of trinkets and can't help making the connection with developing countries selling themselves to western profiteers without consideration of future consequences of doing so.