AMERICAblog: Hallmark homophobes remove gay cards from stores
Jim Olson
· 1 year ago
Um, hello! We're the gay people that still remember to send cards to everyone for everything! Do you REALLY want to piss us off? Cards are expensive as it is...
martha
· 1 year ago
YES, so expensive. I write a nice personal letter on a piece of stationery. So much more appreciated. I received a beautiful, handwritten thank you letter today, and I've read it over and over and over...
Jim Olson
· 1 year ago
Actually, it's one local franchisee. I say Hallmark pulls their franchise. Kudos to Hallmark for even making the cards available.
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
Since this just involves 7 shops in Larry Craig Land (Idaho) I reserve the right to not get too upset over this one just yet. But you know a gay boycott of specific Hallmark shops could wipe those fuckers out in no time.
sullivan
· 1 year ago
They are horrible shops anyway! Too many candles and ornaments and sappy cards! Make your friends a card it you need one. I will check my store and if they pull it I can get things going in this liberal town.
prochoicelib
· 1 year ago
Off Topic, but just listening to the Thom Hartmann replay of todays show and he said that the "pool feed" of the convention floor is usually done by one network every convention. This year FOX NEWS got the pic to run the video of people on the convention floor and he noticed all the shots were of people bored, not smiling, etc.
Who exactly in the leadership thought it was a good idea and do they have any control over these decisions.
High Crimes & Misdemeanors
· 1 year ago
This was discussed several months ago. Not much we can do about now. It most certainly makes you think who in the DEM party approved of this?? That person should loose his/her job. And here I thought the DEMs were the opposition party, apparently that person hasn't got the memo.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
I'm sure Wild Bill had nothing to do with it....
High Crimes & Misdemeanors
· 1 year ago
I never did like hallmark's white, wonder bread messages.... a snore and way to expensive. just another reason not to buy thier stale message.
lucycph
· 1 year ago
thank you!! and what? T Hartmann is totally reliable and always gives time to opposing (I wouldn't)....and you got to love his racing mind.
lucycph
· 1 year ago
go to previous post
munjoyfan
· 1 year ago
Sorry this is off topic, but I'm watching the convention. Most interesting so far was the Jim Lehrer interview with Andrew Kohut on polls of women voters. It is clear there is something they don't like about Obama, and since he is liberal, it's time to attend to it.
I suggest that a third party attack dog do the following, and now:, before the Repub convention and continuing after. Unfortunately, you have to strike first and continuously with Rove. 1. Paint John McCain as a womanizer. Stick to the facts. It will work. Cindy has a ton of problems ---I mean really a conviction for theft of scheduled drugs???--and John's abuse of his first wife and use of Cindy are part of who he is. He won't protect her. 2. Bring Social Security privatization front and center. Time for Harry and Louise talking about their 401Ks. A nice curve showing the downhill slide of their portfolio on the same graph as an uphill curve showing the growth of social security income over the same time. 3. Play up the temperament difference. Time for some animated flip flopper ads, and also one showing McCain morphing into a ground kicking temper tantrumming toddler. Provoke him. He will lose it. 4. Finish up with the Keating Five. McCain's character should be finished.
See what men have a hard time understanding about women is that "honor" is a male value. Women in general value protection of the weak more than ritual combat. Which makes them sometimes more aggressive, and willing to finish off the wicked, than men are.
Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood)
· 1 year ago
Here awhile back I was looking for some "F*ck You" cards to send to some of my relatives, but they didn't have any of those either. You know how concerned they are with being made to feel uncomfortable. It would be a shame if they had to be honest with their children and themselves.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
"Fuck you cards"? Oh, Yeah! That's the way to sway public opinion! You're like one of the 7 dwarfs: happy when you're sad...
Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood)
· 1 year ago
Busboy, did your boss finally unchain you from your desk. Humor is so lost on the McMinions. Really I am more like the gingerbread man in Shrek.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
You're a guy? Who'd a thunkit?
Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood)
· 1 year ago
I know, the big insult for you closet cases, question a person's manhood. Oh my the worst insult ever. What a f6cking laugh! Lame ass dumbsh!t, that is what you are. You little b!tch!
munjoyfan
· 1 year ago
This is one dead convention. It's bedtime here in Maine. What IS the agenda for this election? "Barak is one of us?" Give me a break. If we can't feel comfortable with his legitimacy as a citizen and leader at this point, we and he are in trouble.
Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood)
· 1 year ago
Its like the old joke. A man went to a Quaker service one sunday. all that happened is that people sat quietly and prayed and reflected. The visitor finally leans over and asks one of the members, "When does the service begin?" The member replies " After the meeting."
What is cool is you can change the whole letter to thank them for the gay themed cards. It is great it costs AFA money to send a letter thanking Hallmark for the Gay themed cards.
AdmNaismith
· 1 year ago
I get what you're saying, John, but I think most shops are franchises, and thus have a great deal of latitude over the exact cards and other merchandise they will carry. Besides, the shops in the article are in Idaho- I'd be surprised if they carried cards for anything other than white, straight occasions (prob no Hanukka cards or anything for a distinctly Black audience, either). I mean, the whole point is that you have the freedom to do or not do as you see fit. If they want to pass up that $4 per card, so be it. Besides, I prefer blank, arty photo picture cards myself so at that rate ANY Hallmark store can become my Gay Wedding Card purveyor. Just make sure you tell them that at the Check-Out stand the next time you pass through Idaho.
Beregond
· 1 year ago
Give me a break. Hallmark did a very brave thing by bringing out those cards, and now you want to punish them because they aren't forcing all stores to carry them? First, they can't. Stores choose their own inventory. Second, they are a business. They are about profit. Idealism is all well and good, but they can't slit theire own throats over something so absurd.
And yes, I'm gay, and gays who get their panties in a twist ovre things like this make me tired. Grow up.
phalamir
· 1 year ago
" but they can't slit theire own throats over something so absurd"
No one is asking them to - I want to slit it for them. They might not care about idealism, but customers can make them express it - if people refuse to buy, they change to make money. Personally, I think people ought to go into their stores and just mill around; enough people in the store and newly entering customers will feel cramped and less likely to buy - if the "millers" then simply make no purchases, the store still has to pay for lights and AC and employee wages, but gains little or no income; the store will eventually catch on (or maybe not, we're talking about Hallmark here - dumb cards, dumb people), but they will feel it (I would prefer to burn down the stores, but evidently there are laws against that, so half-measures are all that can be done).
"gays who get their panties in a twist ovre things like this make me tired. Grow up."
You sir/madam, are a moron. Customers have the right to try and make businesses take their interests to heart if the business wants to get their money - the fundie dog-fuckers do it, why should actual humans have to unilaterally disarm? Your position would mean homosexuality would still be a mental disorder, blackness would still rate the back of the bus, and women would still be property. People like you make me tired. Grow up, yourself; social justice requires smacking the fundies down at all chances - we cannot drive them into the sea and drown them, as is their just and righteous punishment, by sitting around and letting them spew their anti-American, anti-Enlightenment, and (for those that care for such things) their anti-Divine crap - you shoot a rabid dog, you don't let it roam free to bite whom it will.
I'm not gay, and evidently I care more for the equality and fair treatment of gays than you - hell, considering your "please, sir, can you nail me to the next flaming cross" attitude, Fred Phelps has more concern for the freedom and equality of gays than you.
jr
· 1 year ago
I'm sick of merchants treating gays as lepers and pharmacists making judgments on women's prescriptions. Rapture bunnies need to get over their Mullah Omar approved bronze aged moralism
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But you know a gay boycott of specific Hallmark shops could wipe those fuckers out in no time.
I will check my store and if they pull it I can get things going in this liberal town.
Who exactly in the leadership thought it was a good idea and do they have any control over these decisions.
I suggest that a third party attack dog do the following, and now:, before the Repub convention and continuing after. Unfortunately, you have to strike first and continuously with Rove.
1. Paint John McCain as a womanizer. Stick to the facts. It will work. Cindy has a ton of problems ---I mean really a conviction for theft of scheduled drugs???--and John's abuse of his first wife and use of Cindy are part of who he is. He won't protect her.
2. Bring Social Security privatization front and center. Time for Harry and Louise talking about their 401Ks. A nice curve showing the downhill slide of their portfolio on the same graph as an uphill curve showing the growth of social security income over the same time.
3. Play up the temperament difference. Time for some animated flip flopper ads, and also one showing McCain morphing into a ground kicking temper tantrumming toddler. Provoke him. He will lose it.
4. Finish up with the Keating Five. McCain's character should be finished.
See what men have a hard time understanding about women is that "honor" is a male value. Women in general value protection of the weak more than ritual combat. Which makes them sometimes more aggressive, and willing to finish off the wicked, than men are.
You know how concerned they are with being made to feel uncomfortable. It would be a shame if they had to be honest with their children and themselves.
http://www.afa.net/Petitions/Issuedetail.asp?id...
Besides, the shops in the article are in Idaho- I'd be surprised if they carried cards for anything other than white, straight occasions (prob no Hanukka cards or anything for a distinctly Black audience, either).
I mean, the whole point is that you have the freedom to do or not do as you see fit. If they want to pass up that $4 per card, so be it.
Besides, I prefer blank, arty photo picture cards myself so at that rate ANY Hallmark store can become my Gay Wedding Card purveyor. Just make sure you tell them that at the Check-Out stand the next time you pass through Idaho.
And yes, I'm gay, and gays who get their panties in a twist ovre things like this make me tired. Grow up.
No one is asking them to - I want to slit it for them. They might not care about idealism, but customers can make them express it - if people refuse to buy, they change to make money. Personally, I think people ought to go into their stores and just mill around; enough people in the store and newly entering customers will feel cramped and less likely to buy - if the "millers" then simply make no purchases, the store still has to pay for lights and AC and employee wages, but gains little or no income; the store will eventually catch on (or maybe not, we're talking about Hallmark here - dumb cards, dumb people), but they will feel it (I would prefer to burn down the stores, but evidently there are laws against that, so half-measures are all that can be done).
"gays who get their panties in a twist ovre things like this make me tired. Grow up."
You sir/madam, are a moron. Customers have the right to try and make businesses take their interests to heart if the business wants to get their money - the fundie dog-fuckers do it, why should actual humans have to unilaterally disarm? Your position would mean homosexuality would still be a mental disorder, blackness would still rate the back of the bus, and women would still be property. People like you make me tired. Grow up, yourself; social justice requires smacking the fundies down at all chances - we cannot drive them into the sea and drown them, as is their just and righteous punishment, by sitting around and letting them spew their anti-American, anti-Enlightenment, and (for those that care for such things) their anti-Divine crap - you shoot a rabid dog, you don't let it roam free to bite whom it will.
I'm not gay, and evidently I care more for the equality and fair treatment of gays than you - hell, considering your "please, sir, can you nail me to the next flaming cross" attitude, Fred Phelps has more concern for the freedom and equality of gays than you.