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AMERICAblog: Harold Ford thinks homophobia is politically expedient. Great, so how is he on racism?

  • Liza · 1 year ago
    John,

    You forget that Harold was trying to claim that his grandparents were really white to try to get some votes. Fortunately an angry aunt in New York provided birth records in which they were listed as "negroes" I hate Harold.
  • lloydletta · 1 year ago
    Well Harold Ford LOST the election, so his position didn't help him much - did it? In fact, I don't think any of the Democratic FMA supporting Senate challengers won.

    Ford's position on the FMA also made the infamous "Playboy ad" perfectly fair game, imho - since it was pointing out his zipper problem. After all "family values" heterosexuals such as Ford should be following the no sex outside of marriage rules they espouse.
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    Good post, John. Quite often Ford is extremely disappointing. And I am also surprised that he gave voice to his homophobia. May come back to haunt him.
  • SkippyFlipjack · 1 year ago
    I sort of doubt that Ford actually "gave voice to his homophobia" today. John is occasionally less than clear in his posts. When I read this one, my first thought was "wait, did Ford use that as an example in his speech, or is John using that as an example because it's something he was really mad about during the campaign?" My guess is the latter. And his post is short on specifics; in what way did Ford go anti-gay in the last week of the campaign?

    We're the reality-based coalition, remember? we like accuracy and transparency :)
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    As I recall, Ford said several times that he opposed gay marriage.
  • gumdrops · 1 year ago
    "....is politically expedient..". That's about it. Seems to be a trend for both parties...quite frankly.
  • bkmn · 1 year ago
    Ford is a self serving egomaniac.

    I am sorry to see the netroots and the Democratic party giving him any attention.
  • lucky hussein · 1 year ago
    what an a-hole. recently 'Traitor Joe' Leibermann made some comment that dems need more people like Ford. Remember Ford's famous comments in his losing race? "I love women, I love Jesus, and I love football"
  • Butch1 · 1 year ago
    Ooooh, Jesus would not like to be in second place. ;-)
  • Butch1 · 1 year ago
    He's also a religious nutcake. He is so republican-lite it's pathetic. I'm glad he lost but what he doesn't seem to understand is that it probably was a result of him being black considering how some of those pockets vote racially. He seems alot like Justice Thomas when he was in power, pontificating how we should be sacrificed to win. How old time democratic in his game plan.
    Ford, just go away, we do not need anymore bigots in politics, your time has long past.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    Harold's probably on the down low, and therefore, overcompensating.
  • Gary SF · 1 year ago
    Harold Ford Jr. supported the failed Constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage (the Federal Marriage Amendment) in 2004. He has always been homophobic and had to cancel a fund-raising event here in SF because we really were going to cause problems for him (pickets, civil disobedience, lobbying sponsors, etc.). What's worse, he has supported Bush on wiretapping and other issues. I wish the South was permitted to secede from the union way back then, because the 'Blue-Dog' democrats are really republicans in most ways including being sexual perverts and hypocrites.
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    Hi there Gary. Did you see the new Field Poll on Prop. 8? Only 42% favor it whereas 51% oppose it. The interesting thing is that people that identify as "Independent" oppose it at higher numbers than those that identify as "democrat".
  • Gary SF · 1 year ago
    Hello Scott! Yes I saw that. I am trying to start a letter writing campaign to La Opinion and other Latino newspapers, telling my story and trying to change the minds of Latino voters who may be against same-sex marriage. Many Latinos may be able to empathize with the fact that my partner had to leave the US because he is not a citizen and we cannot get married.
  • indywally · 1 year ago
    Harold is too much DLC McCain lite to suit me. This loser is forever telling Obama how to win. Off topic but I sure hope another DLC loser Bayh is not Obama's VP choice.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    Busboy, if you're around, I hope you're doing alright. Sending some good vibes your way...

    :::good vibrations to Houston:::
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Thanks, GG, hope you're doing well also. Find a place to hide!
  • johnosahon · 1 year ago
    john, can you put links or at least go into details of the homophobic things he did in his campaign.

    you cannot drop this bomb without any details just accusations.
  • howdydostu · 1 year ago
    He supports a Federal Marriage Amendment., that's a fact.....hell, many rethugs don't even do that!!
    Nothing else needed to be said.
    Respectfuly;
    Stuart & Robert Wyman-Cahall
    Las Vegas, NV 89142
  • Gary SF · 1 year ago
    Oh and don't let this slip by: Ford is not 'homophobic' in order to win elections. He is a devout Southern Baptist and really is disgusted by gays. If I ever get close enough to shake his hand, he is getting a 'French kiss' from me. Maybe that will drive him to suicide.
  • Polly_Tics · 1 year ago
    Whereas I wouldn't want to see Ford commit Hari Kari, I would love to see you plant one on him!
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    those guys are the typical closet cases-
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    The 2010 census wont be counting gay married couples although it's legal in a number of states because of DOMA, they say. Just same sex under the same roof type deal.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    More Goodling type Liberty University shennigans from this administration.
  • judybrowni · 1 year ago
    So throwing the homos under the bus, and he still lost?

    What a fucking shame -- and we're supposed to follow his advice, and lose more races while being bigoted.

    Hey, but it's the Democratic party, so why not?

    But I notice Obama's doing okay, and he's against anti-gay marriage amendments to the constitution. Wonder how that happened Harold?
  • Gary SF · 1 year ago
    He lost due to racism and a very racist ad by his opponent, not because he was against same-sex marriage.

    Obama supports the 'separate drinking fountain' solution for gays: Civil unions - but only state by state.

    While this sucks, Obama is much better on GLBT issues than Ford. And deep down inside, I suspect that Obama's stance was 'formed' in order to win an election.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    Yeah, being pro-civil union helps him politically but it still pisses me off.
  • judybrowni · 1 year ago
    One reason Obama may be pro-civil union (and how many Democrats can we count in even that camp?) is that his parent's marriage would have be illegal in some states before the pre-Loving ruling by the Supreme Court.

    Nothing like personal empathy.
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    Obama has stated his opposition to anti-same sex marriage Prop. 8 in California.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    Repeal DOMA. NOW!!
  • Polly_Tics · 1 year ago
    I just wonder why Ford wasn't asked about the questions "How do you feel about using racism on a campaign to see what he would say.

    Oh wait, wasn't he supporting Hillary (and Bill) in the primary? Isn't it Harold Ford who has said complementary things about Obama enough times that you can count them on one hand and isn't it Harold Ford who ALWAYS has maintained that he loves his fellow journalists over at Fox?

    Yes, that's what I thought, he really doesn't want you or anyone to remember that he is African American. What a guy...
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    What I intuit is that it's politically beneficial for Obama to mouth "pro-civil union" while he's doing all this regressive repuke-lite shit. It's really become sorta insulting.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    He's doing that to run interference with the core base while appealing to independents. It's shrewd and political but it still pisses me off thinking it's demeaning to my gay brothers and sisters who've fought for so long. They're still kicking us around like a football.
  • Ben Dover · 1 year ago
    How many human atrocities have been committed in the name of being "politically expedient"?
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    Maybe even worse: he's Joe "Dead Intern" Scarborough's lil' black friend, who can be expected to josh along with Joe's stupid observations.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    Hey, the fat pink pear Rove said that "We now have available wingnut welfare offering to those who will join" in the form of so-called think-tanks and what have you. That's why they never go away after being so fucking wrong. That creep bush will be setting up another one at SMU. They should be so proud or their "university."
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    And it's a sad reflection on the dumbass American people that they're treated to such deep and obvious political calculation.
  • FightForJustice · 1 year ago
    I live in Tennessee. I read a lot of comments about how Harold Ford lost because this is a racist state...but believe me his anti-gay agenda was the reason a lot Tennessee liberals couldn't support him either. I couldn't in good conscious pull the lever for him even though he had a D after his name. I agonized over it. But I'm glad I didn't vote for him (or his opponent). We had a guy running racist ads and a guy bashing gays...there was no choice.
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    That's great that you didn't vote for "the lesser of 2 evils"!

    Why vote for evil when you don't have to.

    Having a D does not guarantee you a vote from a Democrat just because.
  • Aanya · 1 year ago
    I really do like Harold Ford, but he's one of those democrats who need a course in personal ethics. When any human being has to adjust their beliefs for the sake of a political race, they aren't Democrats, they're rethugs!
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    And I intuit that the Fat Pink Pear is behind all the trolls online on progressive blogs.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    Not some like Busboy, but most of them. They are paid operatives to sow confusion paid for by corporations. How much longer is Congress not going to act? Arrest that fat sow hog.
  • austinrunn · 1 year ago
    Don't know. But he did date a bisexual woman (or at least a woman who "experimented"). Wonder how he feels about her? Would he disavow her?
  • howdydostu · 1 year ago
    My spouse and I have learned in the debate about marriage equality that democrats as well as republicans may believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman only....we differ as democrats because few if any would ever support a Federal Marriage Amendment which could effectivly strip us of any of our hard fought rights.
    Harold Ford is a disgrace to the democratic party...he chairs the DLC which, I believe, was an organization formed by the Clintons some years ago to bring the democratic party closer to the "mainstream" . LOL.
    And yes, racist commercials were used against Harold Ford in the last election.. Remember the "call me, Harold" commercials? Harold Ford is an angry man and he supports the kind of politics that brought him defeat in the last election. When we see him on t.v. we watch for a moment and then the hurt comes over us. We tune out.
    Even in my home state of Nevada, Tessa Hafen, a democrat, supported the Federal Marriage Amendment...Robert and I sat on our hands and did not vote for her.....she lost by a very slim margin.
    Principled democrats should never support a Federal Marriage Amendment. We are better than that!
    Stuart & Robert Wyman- Cahall
    Las Vegas, NV 89142
  • Ben Dover · 1 year ago
    Actually I'm quite surprised that Harold is making the conference rounds these days.

    What happened? Did he lose his gig at the Playboy Mansion? And wasn't he dating some blond that he was always calling?

    I think I saw that on a television documentary or someplace.

    /snark
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    All this politically expedient homophobia makes me so mad I could pull up a telephone pole.
  • KISSman · 1 year ago
    Ford always sounds like a big know-it-all on Race For The Whitehouse and yet he didn't win the Senate seat with all of that so-called knowledge that he has.

    Just because the Right seems to be against anything that helps gay people doesn't mean that it's a stance people/Democrats should embrace just so we can win the Middle. Fuck the Middle if it means that we have to have a platform that isn't favorable to minority groups.

    We're the Progressive Party; not the Regressive Party.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Fuck.

    I'm not gay and it pisses me off.

    Are we on the side of liberty or are we not?

    Fuckin' Harold would have sold out the slaves if a white man was there to pat him on the head.

    (I've been drinking.....)
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Some blacks escaped slavery.

    Some blacks were sold into slavery.

    And some blacks sold other blacks into slavery.

    Guess which one Harold is.
  • Webster · 1 year ago
    After Harold, the drinking part is understandable.
  • Chris From Maine · 1 year ago
    harold ford isnt one of us. He is a republican pretending to be a Democrat. He sides with Fox News over us.

    He was race-baited by the same people he now embraces. How sad.
  • lucky hussein · 1 year ago
    Any protests at this Bush golf event this weekend? I hope so....
  • Chris From Maine · 1 year ago
    none as far as I know.. I'm sure they wont let anyone need His Majesty anyway.
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    Well he is a queen after all!
    :-)
  • red_dwarf · 1 year ago
    Ford is from TN - he's use to catering to brain dead dittoheads. What a loser.
  • graymatter · 1 year ago
    Gay. It's the new black.

    Oh, and retired Navy Master Chief Doug Tudor, who's running against Adam Putnam (yes, THAT Adam Putnam) in FL-12, favors repeal of DADT and the right of every American to marry.

    Please help.

    http://www.teamtudor.org
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    Is this the jerk when asked a question about Obama's tigher poll rating with McCain went on a rant about Obama not running for president of MoveOnOrg or the liberal part of the Democratic party?

    He's an IDIOT!

    No wonder I can say what a loser ... cuz he is a LOSER!
  • chowderSF · 1 year ago
    I had to laugh, the other morning Ford was a guest host on Morning Joe on MSNBC, and they had Lieberman on, and Lieberman told Ford that the Democratic party needed more guys that thought like him, Ford. This coming from Lieberman.....what a pair!
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    I think that show's called "Morning Ho," isn't it?
  • Webster · 1 year ago
    "MorningRepublicanHo," to spell it out completely.
  • mcd410x · 1 year ago
    Junior was the new Obama before Obama was the new Obama. Thank goodness for how THAT worked out. I grew up in Memphis, and though you could say a lot of things about Ford Sr., you could never say he was a kiss-ass.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    You have a great question.

    You shoulda got in his face, John;
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    I'm guessing Ford is against race-baiting in order to win conservative southern voters.

    ----

    Um, John.

    You don't want to know how far Harold is willing to go.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Can't stay long because this blog is heavily edited. You're worried about harold ford? All of these people are now in their 50's and they vote all the time:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHsDa9_HSlA
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    We need another plane crash for them.

    Imagine people using blues scales to glorify George Wallace?
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Though, I guess, Harold would agree with them.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Apparently you missed the line in the music about the "gov'nor"... Pay attention, B_B...
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    Earlier a "reg" wrote that 80%-90% of AMERICAblog comments are from rightwing trolls. Now you say the threads are "heavily edited."

    You're both fullashit.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    No, dear, you are full of shit. My iMac let's me know when a comment is being held for editing; and, I know when it's been shitcanned.
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    So your comments do not appear when you hit "post as Busboy" and when they finally do publish, they have been edited?
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Not exactly. When they are held for editing they fade to a light blue. Then sometimes they are published and sometimes not, depending on the mirthmonitor or whoever is in charge. They are not changed; just not published. So, anyone reading comments will wonder why things are disjointed. But, you know? I do like this place; but I don't have to be here. So, you can flush my ass if you want to. It's not my blog...
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    When I chose my disqus comment name, I was trying to be clever by being a monitor of mirth - i.e. fun and/or humor. When people kept asking if I was a monitor, I decided to drop the monitor part of it and on the threads I would just be mirth. So if 'mirthmonitor' (which is still on my profile page) is why you keep insisting that I'm a blog monitor, then I dunno what to tell you. Think what you want.
    If your comments are being edited as you say, that is what you write gets re-written or they don't publish at all, then you should contact John.
  • blackwolf · 1 year ago
    I'm not keen on Harold Ford. He screamed big time when they ran an ad of a white chick hinting that he should call her up anytime. I don't think he'll be around for the long run. I remember when he was shooting off at the mouth about how American may not be ready for a black president.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Do you see the part on the video when he sings "an ol' Neil put her (Alabama) down...

    That's what "tls" looks like when she's pissed.
    ....just sayin......
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WqX_cVz-Tc

    Southern man
    better keep your head
    Don't forget
    what your good book said
    Southern change
    gonna come at last
    Now your crosses
    are burning fast
    Southern man

    I saw cotton
    and I saw black
    Tall white mansions
    and little shacks.
    Southern man
    when will you
    pay them back?
    I heard screamin'
    and bullwhips cracking
    How long? How long?

    Southern man
    better keep your head
    Don't forget
    what your good book said
    Southern change
    gonna come at last
    Now your crosses
    are burning fast
    Southern man

    Lily Belle,
    your hair is golden brown
    I've seen your black man
    comin' round
    Swear by God
    I'm gonna cut him down!
    I heard screamin'
    and bullwhips cracking
    How long? How long?
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    I don't care for Ford either...Too smooth, too DLC, too fast into the pundit/pol revolving door that hopefully 'change' will end...
  • jr · 1 year ago
    Harold's a hardcore Reaganite
  • jcgraham77 · 1 year ago
    He isn't a Reaganite. He is your typical educated southern black politician who will say whatever he needs to to get the uneducated southern black vote. Totally different species.
  • nuneutralobserver2008 · 1 year ago
    A lot of blacks do not appreciate equating skin color with ass-fucking. Homophobia does not equal rasicm.
  • Webster · 1 year ago
    You are so screamingly stupid I don't even know where to begin to reply.
  • nuneutralobserver2008 · 1 year ago
    My comment is 100% accurate, if a bit rude. I work with a number of blacks, Dems and Repukes, and many of them are offended when gays try to equate homophobia with racism. These are conservative, religious people, and they believe homosexuality is sinful --
  • Webster · 1 year ago
    Your initial comment was tasteless, beyond rude, and ugly--posted to deliberately make a homophobic comment in a way you thought you could get away with it. And a lot of "blacks, Dems, and even Repukes" do understand the way homophobia and racism intersect. Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's a spring shower.
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    nuneutralobserver2008:
    The words 'knuckle dragging creep' were invented just for you.

    Webster,
    I couldn't make sense of what s/he was trying to say. Then I saw your comment. You're right. Good call.
  • Webster · 1 year ago
    Mirth, check out his comments on disqus--you'll see he's just another put-upon, poor, white, discriminated against straight male. You just gotta pity the travails they've been put through over the centuries. Aww.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    He is just like Troy King - gay Alabama AG!

    http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rl...

    'put upon, poor, white, discrminated against "straight" males!'
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    Who cares what bigots think.
  • ChicagoKid · 1 year ago
    That's right, race is protected nationally, sexual oriination is not. You are a fool and a homophobic loser.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    As one of the moderators on this blog, I would remove your initial comment but I think people need to see it to understand just what kind of evil idiots those who believe in progressive, fair "civil rights for all Americans" are up against. Statements like this PROVE our country has a LONG, LONG way to go to stamp out your brand of ignorance and hate!
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    As a reader, I agree with you. The miserable thinking of these low-functioning neanderthals needs to be seen, but a glimpse is plenty adequate to get where they are coming from. AB should not be their means of spreading filth, yet talking only to ourselves defeats understanding of the work ahead to marginalize them and the harm they cause.
    Know thy enemy!

    Thanks for the work you do to keep this threads informative and frisky, yet civil.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Thanks Mirth:

    I enjoy reading your posts!
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    Ditto. I dig your comments, too. Intelligence and passion get me every time.
  • Charles · 1 year ago
    Being gay has little to do with ass-fucking, but everything to do with love. And I doubt if you're all that neutral.
  • mista · 1 year ago
    That this man got a voice at this conference does not speak well for a conference that should have been about bringing people together.
    Homophobia may not equal racism, but it does equal discrimination when applied. One of the reasons I abandoned the Republican party was because of their being beholdin' to those who don't think ALL Americans deserve equal status in this country. Before then, I considered myself an Independent. Perhaps, it is time to rebrand myself.
    To think, I marched in civil rights protests so this man could not only have a voice, but equal rights. You're welcome, Mr. Ford, but thank you for nothin'!
  • PeteWa · 1 year ago
    I was against Harold Ford when he was running his failed race in TN.
    At the time, I knew that the last thing we needed in this country is another Liebermandumbocrat.
    Read up on Harold quite a bit... you should check out what Black Commentator has to say about him, it sure ain't pretty... their basic point was that Ford doesn't give a shit about black people.
    A mini-Bush.
    Ford is actually worse than Joe LIEberman, in my opinion, and that is a very damning statement against Harold.
  • jcgraham77 · 1 year ago
    Here in Memphis Harold Ford is going to say whatever he will to get elected. His demographic is conservative southern blacks. They love to tie a gay to a cross and burn it in the front yard. Their memories are short and their educations are limited.
  • jcgraham77 · 1 year ago
    Harold Ford Jr. is the true definition of an oreo.
  • dula · 1 year ago
    I never understood why so many Progressives were jumping for joy when the Dem Party won control of Congress in '06. Many of those freshmen Reps and Senators were Blue Dog Democrats/Moderate Republicans (some even social Conservatives). The Neocons have pushed Mod Repubs into the Democratic Party.
  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 1 year ago
    Methinks the lady doth protest too much. Harold has just a hint of mint in his loafers, girls. Any truly secure straight guy would never use this kind of bigotry to garner votes. Only a self loathing 'mo, who's deep in his closet. I mean, if it smells like a Republican.....
  • PeteWa · 1 year ago
    "hint of mint in his loafers" lol
    I always liked "slight in the slppers" also.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Harold Ford is a VERY messed up person. He has a tendency to blame others for his own failures while trying to denigrate others to prop himself up. I don't like him. Oh yeah, Ford is so jealous of Obama he can't see straight. I also agree with John's take he must be struggling with "something" inside himself to be so hateful and vitriolic to the gay community. There is one thing to appeal to voters in backwards conservative districts, but entirely another when you join in on the homophobia. Ford KNOWS this. He is just being spiteful and hateful.
  • DavidinChelseaMA · 1 year ago
    He's totally republican-lite. But his one redeeming quality is that he is also totally hot. And here's hoping that last sentence makes him uncomfortable!