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nyah nyah HBO
oh well!
There were more than 150K "stable" people at that protest. Admit it and move on.
Pete was good too!
Huh? What? I thought it was all Obama's fault.
God, at least get your story straight. You contradict yourself from the post two posts below this one.
This is why we need newspapers. At least there's accountability.
Enjoy your Kool-Aid Dear. Watch your blouse - it stains.
http://crooksandliars.com/silentpatriot/ap-simp...
irony.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMYtNlIlGKM
After all, these are tough economic times and we need to fund government somehow.
My question is: if they 'own' the rights to this pre-inaugural event, that means they BOUGHT it, no? Who sold it to them? Obama's inaugural committee?
if you check, you'll see that the inaugural committee has sold the rights to MANY of the inaugural balls and celebrations to help defray public expense.
It all seems so wrong to me.
In light of the troubled economy, it would make a bold statement to skip the balls if they're too expensive, but for god's sake, let the public have PUBLIC access to these public events!!
In fact, I suspect common people photographed in public situations probably don't need to give consent, otherwise, such photos as that iconic one of the sailor kissing the girl on Wall Street after WWII ended could not be used without massive royalties being owed to the sailor and the girl as well as the people in the background. However is different for public figures like Obama, his wife, daughters, Pete Seeger and his son, etc. HBO, if they profit and so severely restrict use of that event, must also pay off royalties to those public figures.
The invocation wasn't aired because the Presidential Inauguration Committee scheduled it 10 minutes prior to the start of the actual ceremony/concert. The concert was broadcast *live* by HBO. Were they supposed to air 10 minutes of dead air? There were no hosts, no play by play...the scheduling was set entirely by the Inauguration committee.
Regarding pulling down the vid--yeah, it's a rights thing. They paid to broadcast the show, and while it's perfectly okay to post pictures of being at the event or personal vids of the event, it is absolutely NOT okay to pull stuff off the program that aired and rebroadcast it on You Tube.
It's called stealing. You wouldn't want people to take your blog post word for word and claim that they wrote it, would you? That would be stealing your words and your thoughts. But *linking* to it is perfectly acceptable.
If you want to view the Pete Seegar/Bruce Sprinsteen performance, HBO has made it available online at http://www.hbo.com/weareone/
HBO did the stealing! This is a fucking public event. PBS and CSPAN should have been filming it, too.
Who wants to watch the entire concert at hbo.com when you only want to hear selected parts of the concert? And PBS and CSPAN would have filmed Bishop Robinson!
I sure hope HBO doesn't "own" rights to the inauguration on Tuesday!!
The scenario? *They had a CD playing on their stereo behind the counter*, and since their customers could hear it, the copyright owner claimed it was a "public performance".
It's ridiculous, and only legitimizes music piracy.
The fact is that the Inauguration Committee sold the rights to help pay for the event. No money = no event.
I fully- FULLY, and without reservation- support the piracy of their broadcast *in its entirety*.
This is one of those times when their rights end where mine begin, and I would suggest that everyone has the *right* to see every last minute of this inauguration, HBO's copyright be damned to hell and back.
gahk, I hate teh fundies, warren is a pompus ass.
If there is a beef to be had, it is with the Inaugural Committee who scheduled the invocation where it did and sold the exclusive rights in the first place.
It's the law. You accept when you post a copyrighted video on YouTube that it's going to get taken down. Move on.
Unfortunately, it would take a judge to make a determination if use of the clip on the blog was Fair Use or not. Copyright holders are ordering everything taken town, regardless of the context, since web users don't want to go through the hassle of going to court to defend their use of a short clip on a website.
As I was walkin' - I saw a sign there
And that sign said - no tress passin'
But on the other side .... it didn't say nothin!
Now that side was made for you and me!
sorry, but the phrase "the spirit of the idea that corporate America doesn't own D.C." is a registered trademark of The Walt Disney Company.
you're going to have to take that down.
"We've become slaves to a Corporate God"
"The Greatest Rogue Nation
"We the People” no longer exist
except in the lines of our Constitution
We've become Slaves to a Corporate God
Who steals our souls with no retribution
The Rich get Richer, the Poor get Poorer
without regard to Mother Earth
Our Oceans warn us with their fury
We pause and we smile and we stake out more turf
Hear AIDS babies cry in Africa!
Feel Iraq's children's pangs of hunger!
Hear drums of war begin to pound
Lightning flash bombs and brutal thunder
Pound the ground with your fists and implore the sky
Scream out your anger and question, “Why???!!!”
March in the streets and wave your flag
Let us live for PEACE not body bags
Do it for JUSTICE and our Freedom's Flame
will guide us in shouting, "NOT IN OUR NAME!"
Don't let the few that shrink from salvation
Let us be known as "The Greatest Rogue Nation!"
Timothy Beauchamp
February 03, 2003"
"Bush Commutes Sentences for Two Former Border Patrol Agents
President Bush commutes the sentences of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean, convicted of shooting a Mexican drug runner in 2005."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/19/bush...
(Disclaimer: I do not have any kind of teevee hookup, being of the view that I have better things to do than watch crap that is the routine fare on teevee.)
I was lucky enough to see the Youtube viideo early this morning before HBO struck. It was wonderful. Thanks HBO. Now fuck HBO.
But, then, they're not American shows.
But, hey, that Mormon polygamy show is supposed to be good. And it's a reminder of the people behind Prop 8. Which is, like, TOTALLY entertaining.
EVERYONE should torrent the crap out of this, and send HBO the links to boot.
So I was pissed that the concert wasn't on PBS like the 4th of July and Memorial Day concerts from the Capital are. That would have been the right thing to do. But I also understand that the inauguration is the most expensive in history and they had to make some compromises somewhere and if letting HBO pay for it was a way to cut costs to taxpayers, well, maybe that's okay, especially in this economy. Personally, I'd give up seeing the concert on TV than money going to help small businesses, for example.
Finally, I went to the HBO site last night and was then irritated more that I didn't know I could have watched it streaming live when it happened. But because I was watching so much later, all I could see was a 30 minute highlight reel and although it did include Pete Seeger, it didn't include the Will.i.am song.
As for HBO's seemingly corporate ownership of the pre-Inaug concert party stuff, there's got to be more behind why they wouldn't allow imbeds of YouTube. Until the full story (both sides of the coin), I'm keeping my HBO (Addicted to Big Love and Summer Heights High).
So we can only rewatch this at the pleasure and discretion of HBO?? The hell we can.
is hbo really thinking they own all images from this public event...
Hey HBO!!
I have never heard of anything so creepy and dumb in your history, tell me you really aren't crazy enough to try this...please.
Hey Americablog.com
You are our front line in this, ears open and fists up.
If they do anything but run like the wind away from this raise hell and lets fight them!!!
http://www.hbo.com/corpinfo/faq.shtml
http://www.hbo.com/corpinfo/faq/copyrightfaq.shtml
So I'll give them the rights to their video right after I receive my check for their use of my Mall.
I think that's fair, don't you?
Bill Maher (the only thing worth watching there anymore) should understand.
If the HBO situation makes you mad, tell the Democratic National Committee as well as HBO. DNC was who decided to give the broadcast to HBO.
I mean really HBO, it was baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. Almost worse than a trampling at a Who concert.
Heck, when O could raise 1 Billion dollars sending out emails, don't tell me his team could not come up with a half-way decent plan to fund the inauguration AND ensure maximal participation of all Americans via broadcast TV and the web? I would have chipped in if he'd just asked ... I'm just pissed!
These very basic principles have been very deliberately muddied by professional sports teams, but the sports teams have never faced a knowledgeable opponent. If they did, smart money would bet on the principles being upheld.
"Parsons is now a member of the economic advisory team for President-elect Barack Obama. He met with the President-elect on Friday, November 7, along with many other economic experts, to discuss measures to solve the current economic crisis. "
Could there be a little corporate skullfuckery going on behind the scenes? I'm starting to smell sabotage. Friends close and enemies closer, but who is who?
Hate to say this, since I know a lot of people are so hopeful and I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but never once in his life has Obama stood up to corporate power in any way, and I doubt he'll start now. He's a Harvard lawyer, and he'll act like one.
As I understand the law, HBO only owns the version that they tape themselves. If there were bloggers in the crowd with cameras or cell phones and you all put it together afterward into a blogosphere video event, the blogs would own the exclusive rights to that.
I do think it is unconscionable, however, that they didn't have a central feed, shot by the government, that anyone could plug into.
I don't buy their "it's the only way we could afford it" crap.
How many media companies would have benefited economically if there was a central government feed that any channel or any streaming web service could plug into? I bet the lunch that all the bigwigs eat during the event would cost more than producing the video. How many people working for those media companies would have gotten extra work? We talk about spending money on infrastructure and putting people to work, and then we sell the video of our public events to a private company that funnels all the economic activity it generates into HBO/Time Warner's interests.
Shame on them. If Time Warner had any patriotism they would have sponsored a public feed themselves. Shame on them all.
respice, adspice, prospice
veritas vos liberabit
That actually seems like a reasonable argument. Withouth HBO or some other corp, it would be up to the tax payers.
But maybe the real problem here is that we're having extravaganzas when we can't afford them.