AMERICAblog: Hey, maybe the AP can "negotiate" habeas corpus for the detainees at Gitmo too
Ereshkigal
· 1 year ago
"Media Bloggers Association" must be the name the gave to their inflatable sex doll.
EdSikov
· 1 year ago
This is absurd. Obviously you can't reprint entire AP articles, or anybody's, but quoting is certainly legal.
John Aravosis
· 1 year ago
They literally said that 39 words was too much. Oh yeah, they also said that it's better not to quote anything at all - simply quickly summarize the story and link. I wonder if AP will follow it's own advice:
George Bush said today, something about Iraq (see White House Web site for details).
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
I've been reading about this AP blogger mandate thang and was chuckling all the while. Please,. just who do they think they are and are they aware that this is still (at least for the while) a democracy where the rule of law prevails for most of us.
I applaud John for his blatant disregard of their warning and am curious to see what their response will be. John, please do keep us posted on this issue.
TheOriginalLiz
· 1 year ago
AP is pretty stupid if they think that bloggers are going to roll over and accept something patently illegal. Perhaps they don't realize that, unlike the RIAA, they aren't intimidating 14 year old kids.
John Aravosis
· 1 year ago
The funny party is, a lot of us are lawyers. I know Markos is, as are a several of the top bloggers on the right.
michaelt
· 1 year ago
what country is this?
Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas
· 1 year ago
Maybe some big wig asshole at AP was playing golf with some big wig asshole in the Bush administration and told the first asshole to start to help them control the net thingy. Sounds far fetched? This net thingy is why Barry O. is where he is. This is NOT good for our golfing buddies.
dad
· 1 year ago
ut oh ...
from Media Bloggers Association Jim Kennedy, the AP's director of strategic planning, said Monday that he planned to meet Thursday with Robert Cox, president of the Media Bloggers Association, as part of an effort to create standards for online use of AP stories by bloggers that would protect AP content without discouraging bloggers from legitimately quoting from it.
that's well over 50 words
John Aravosis
· 1 year ago
Not to mention, I love how Robert Cox is now negotiating on behalf of all of us. Good luck with that.
dad
· 1 year ago
Contact To contact Media Bloggers Assocation, select from the options below. General questions/media inquiries: Contact Robert Cox at info-at-mediabloggers.org or call and leave a message or fax at (928) 223-5711. Problems/questions with this website: Contact Alex Yuriev at alex@mediabloggers.org linky
Membership The Media Bloggers Association will be opening up registration for membership starting in Summer 2008. If you would like to be informed when applications will be available, please submit your information using the form below, and we will send you an email, probably some time in August, when we are ready.
emphasis, mine.
truly a representative group.
leo
· 1 year ago
...[A]ll I have is a simple J.D. from Georgetown".
Elitist!
John Aravosis
· 1 year ago
No, just bitter I didn't go to Yale.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
I gather that AP is staffed by college sophomores who just finished writing composition class where the professor discussed plagiarism and how, if they are caught plagiarizing, they will receive an F for the course. Edumacation is a dangerous tool!
kevinbgoode
· 1 year ago
I suspect one of the problems is that AP is tried of being dragged through the dirt and having their questionable credibility....well....questioned. So perhaps they hope to control use of their "stories"at least until they can get an article right - but then a blogger would have to hold his/her breath for days before anyone discovers the errors too frequently permeating their copy.
One wonders who among the membership of the Associated Press is mandating this policy and "negotiation" with some unrepresentative "bloggers associations" which enters into writing contracts with AP.
Andrew A. Gill
· 1 year ago
Some AP reports are no longer than 39 words, and if you quoted one of those in its entirety, I'd call that infringement.
Of course, that's not what happened in this case.
AP has its head up its butt, and I think that, soon enough, we will see the Creative Commons movement topple the suits who come up with this garbage.
FatRat
· 1 year ago
I think I've read about a similiar situation as "Media Bloggers Association". It started with Europeans buying Manhattan for 24 bucks. Turns out the guys who sold it, weren't even natives of the area.
I'm a little confused how "Media Bloggers Association", can represent bloggers. It's kind of like declaring one atheist god, having dominion over the other atheist gods; and then creating The Church of the Squatting Monkeys.
jr
· 1 year ago
"find some 12 year old kids with geocities sites"-Astroturf Press
Subroutine
· 1 year ago
Hmmm, has the AP decided, yet, if the current Pope is acceptable to them?
red_dwarf
· 1 year ago
Follow AP's advice. Instead of cutting and pasting a few lines write:
In another round of lying propaganda and exaggeration AP reported today that gays are once again threatening traditional marriage. No sources or legitimate statistics were provided in the article (as usual) and the story, in a nutshell, is just another heap of dung from the illiterate whores who write for AP.
Click here if you want to waste your time.
LeslieB
· 1 year ago
AP is full of it. They're trying to scare bloggers.
What they're referring to is a part of copyright law called "di minimis," meaning minimal things. But the AP is just pulling that 39-word number out of the air. I know because I work in publishing, with copyright and libel lawyers whose job it is to vet articles prior to publication. The copyright experts have told us editorial staff that di minimis isn't black and white. There is no maximum word rule, or paragraph rule, etc. It's more a question of intent as that might affect, say, sales.
All Comments
I applaud John for his blatant disregard of their warning and am curious to see what their response will be. John, please do keep us posted on this issue.
from Media Bloggers Association
Jim Kennedy, the AP's director of strategic planning, said Monday that he planned to meet Thursday with Robert Cox, president of the Media Bloggers Association, as part of an effort to create standards for online use of AP stories by bloggers that would protect AP content without discouraging bloggers from legitimately quoting from it.
that's well over 50 words
To contact Media Bloggers Assocation, select from the options below.
General questions/media inquiries:
Contact Robert Cox at info-at-mediabloggers.org or call and leave a message or fax at (928) 223-5711.
Problems/questions with this website:
Contact Alex Yuriev at alex@mediabloggers.org
linky
prior to the BIG AP story MBA had no postings for 13 days. A total of 5 postings in the month of April.
Still on their front page: Associated Press To Carry MBA Bloggers Coverage of Libby Trial
WASHINGTON DC, January 23, 2007
is the MBA an AP plant?
http://www.thepagroup.com/
BTW I read this story about George and Laura attending the wake when I went to the Yahoo main page.
© 2007 media bloggers association
new rochelle, ny
they are on top of it.
The Media Bloggers Association will be opening up registration for membership starting in Summer 2008. If you would like to be informed when applications will be available, please submit your information using the form below, and we will send you an email, probably some time in August, when we are ready.
emphasis, mine.
truly a representative group.
Elitist!
Edumacation is a dangerous tool!
One wonders who among the membership of the Associated Press is mandating this policy and "negotiation" with some unrepresentative "bloggers associations" which enters into writing contracts with AP.
Of course, that's not what happened in this case.
AP has its head up its butt, and I think that, soon enough, we will see the Creative Commons movement topple the suits who come up with this garbage.
I'm a little confused how "Media Bloggers Association", can represent bloggers. It's kind of like declaring one atheist god, having dominion over the other atheist gods; and then creating The Church of the Squatting Monkeys.
In another round of lying propaganda and exaggeration AP reported today that gays are once again threatening traditional marriage. No sources or legitimate statistics were provided in the article (as usual) and the story, in a nutshell, is just another heap of dung from the illiterate whores who write for AP.
Click here if you want to waste your time.
What they're referring to is a part of copyright law called "di minimis," meaning minimal things. But the AP is just pulling that 39-word number out of the air. I know because I work in publishing, with copyright and libel lawyers whose job it is to vet articles prior to publication. The copyright experts have told us editorial staff that di minimis isn't black and white. There is no maximum word rule, or paragraph rule, etc. It's more a question of intent as that might affect, say, sales.