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AMERICAblog: Hillary being considered for Sec of State

  • elRey · 1 year ago
    Like it? I LOVE it! John, you always surprise me. I thought you would hate the idea.
    Hillary and BIll are very highly regarded around the world.
  • cheetos · 1 year ago
    Me, too.
  • lucky hussein · 1 year ago
    more chances for her to land some where in a 'combat zone' or a 'hail of bullets' like kosovo? lol..
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    Hillary will be an excellent centrist Secretary of Sate.
  • heraldsquare · 1 year ago
    I don't see a compelling reason for it. Her main foreign policy decision was a failure, and the health care debacle revealed an unwillingness to negotiate with others. And I don't think Bill lauding the democratic tendencies of a dictator whom the EU as trying to force to hold real elections has helped the Clinton name on the international stage at all.
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    I'm torn on this thought. I see so many good places for her. I'd like to see her as Senate Majority Leader, I'd like to see her as a potential Supreme Court Nominee, and I'd like to see a National Health Care Program given to her and Ted Kennedy to create...

    Decisions decisions...
  • okojo · 1 year ago
    I don't want Hillary as Senate Majority Leader.. She isn't going to be the person with the softest touch. Dianne Feinstein would be a much better majority leader, given she can reach across the aisle, another is Blanche Lincoln, or even David Pryor.

    The Senate Majority leader becomes a glamorized water carrier with a limousine when the same party occupies the White House and Senate. It is kind of a difficult position when the White House is calling the shots, given they demand results not explanations...

    Hillary basically should try to get universal health care or get health care cost lowered as her primary goal. I just don't see her as a good Sec of State or Majority Leader.

    I know that Reid may come across as Milquetoast, but as a former governor of a Conservative Western State, with a better touch than Hillary and her Lady MacBeth ways...
  • davidkc · 1 year ago
    It has become clear to me now that Barack Obama meant something different by "change" than I did when I worked so hard to get him elected. For Obama, it seems that "change" means "change back to the Clinton administration." Ugh.
  • Andon · 1 year ago
    I suspect this appointment would not be welcomed in the Real World for the same reasons Her Majesty's scolding and hectoring repelled some American primary voters. Interpersonal skills and diplomatic manner seem somewhat deficient. Diplomacy is not armwrestling, it is lying on behalf of one's country convincingly. Her qualifications for this position are precisely what? I doubt that many in the rarified world of international diplomacy would take her seriously at all. I can hear snickers offstage left already. I advise the selection of a pro; there are plenty to choose from.
  • kh7463 · 1 year ago
    I hope so too. Ever since Obama got the nomination, I've been hoping he'd at least ask her to be Secretary of State. I think she would be excellent in that position, she's got what it takes.
  • JayWilson · 1 year ago
    I suppose that since she would have to promote Obama's policies and he has already shown himself to be able to slap her down (metaphorically), I wouldn't have a problem with it. (I felt just the opposite when I logged onto comments, but thought myself down.)
  • dacnova · 1 year ago
    This has been a rumor for more than a day. Do you have any better source than Yahoo News?
    I don't see it as probable.
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 1 year ago
    it was NBC
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    NBC via Andrea Mitchell who is a friend of Hillary's. No doubt Madame Albright, "top adviser" to the Obama transition team, was the leaker.
    Just another cheap way to jam Obama.
  • lucky hussein · 1 year ago
    after what she said about obama during the race? how she composed herself? talk about a diva.. traitor joe must have softened you up for shillary..
  • boloboffin · 1 year ago
    Actually, this I see as an asset. Obama might be saying, "Remember how she treated ME? Do you think she's going to let YOU off as easy?"
  • fostert · 1 year ago
    I'm not thrilled. She has a grating personality that is not conducive to diplomacy. If we need a Clinton, let's put Bill in as head of the World Bank. He's pretty much doing the same job in a private capacity now. He knows Everyone. And he's well-liked around the world. And the position will keep him out of DC most of the time. Perfect!
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 1 year ago
    1. richardson (speaks more than 1 language, hello!)
    2. clinton
    3. hagel
    4. kerry (wife speaks more than 1 language)
    5. nunn (over my dead body)
  • 2008 · 1 year ago
    Actually, Kerry speaks more than one language, too.
    He picked up some Vietnamese, plus speaks some
    major diplomatic languages like French. And all my
    friends abroad think he seemed great and have been
    mystified that we didn't elect him President.

    I think he might be quite good at this role. He knows
    what the nation needs as well as anyone, especially
    in relation to the world as a whole!

    He also has a lot of real world insight on military affairs, obviously.

    And no, he didn't "vote for The War." It was a resolution
    with conditions, not a mandate for war. Bush promised
    to meet those conditions--what a lying criminal he will
    always be!
  • 2008 · 1 year ago
    Last, but not least, Kerry always comes off as intelligent AND sincere, genuine, and trustworthy. He keeps the nation's interest foremost in mind. He's a thinking patriot and we really need that in the Executive Branch, for a change.
  • Miket298 · 1 year ago
    I was thinking Bill as UN Ambassador
  • Joneses · 1 year ago
    Good choice. I admit that the Clintons ran a nasty campaign, but she would be a very good Sec of State in my opinion.
  • cheetos · 1 year ago
    Greta tonight on Fox News is discussing this news with Newt...so the rumor must be true.
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    I love the idea. I wasn't a fan of Hillary when she was running because of her vote in giving Bush approval to run rough shod over our Constitution, but I think, by losing the presidency, she has seen the error of her ways.
    She will be a wonderful Sec. State.
  • Apt604 · 1 year ago
    I'd prefer to see her on the Supreme Court, where she could torment the right wing for decades on all of their favorite issues, but this sounds good too.
  • texasbob · 1 year ago
    I would ask what effect Hillary, as SecState, would have on the prospects for better relations with Iran. After all, she came pretty close to singing "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" during the primaries. I would also expect that as SecState she would undermine whatever chance there might be for a more balanced and fruitful approach to Israeli-Palestinian problems. She seems to be little different from, say, Lieberman in terms of unquestioning loyalty to the Zionist regime.
  • Amicus · 1 year ago
    As long as we are playing fantasy cabinet:

    Richardson.
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    He certainly has the professional credentials, perhaps more than anyone else. However, he seems to have a problem keeping his hands to himself around women. Try a google of it, and see what you think.
  • vkobaya · 1 year ago
    She has zero diplomatic skills, as in negotiating.
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    Despite Hillary's lack of qualifications and her combative personality as well as her ease with self-aggrandizing lies, plus her inability to first select an honorable team and then manage them in a cost-effective and productive manner, if this is a leak to gauge the public's reation, listen up Obama transition team:

    No and Hell No.
  • Jim Olson · 1 year ago
    well said.
  • ContrapuntalNews · 1 year ago
    The biggest difference between Hillary and Barack during the primaries was foreign policy, why on earth would we want her to lead in the position where her stances differ most strikingly from Barack's? Remember, she criticized MoveOn.org because she said that they had different foreign policy views from her. She differed from Barack on whether the U.S. should sell the devastatingly inaccurate weapons known as cluster bombs to other nations, she differed from him on the Iraq war, she differed from him on high-level negotiations with our adversaries, and she differed from him on the resolution that stated that it should be a vital national security interest to act against the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

    Make her head of Health and Human Services where her expertise in health care would serve as a great asset (though I'd love to see Howard Dean in this role as well). But Secretary of State? I say thanks, but no thanks.

    http://contrapuntalnews.blogspot.com/2008/11/no...
  • vkobaya · 1 year ago
    why on earth would we want her to lead in the position where her stances differ most strikingly from Barack's?

    It's called to hell with the needs of the nation. Only thing that counts is politics. I thought we were done with this shit with Bush and the Republicans out of office.

    Maybe Bill, but Hillary is about as abrasive as 60 garnet paper. As I said above, she has zero diplomatic skills. If she were to go to the Middle East, war would erupt. Then again, Condi is even worse, and she was Secretary of State. But if if Obama wants someone to provoke war, only Condi could be a worse choice even if Condi were a Democrat.
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    Hillary:

    Senate Majority Leader
    Health Care Czar
    Supreme Court Justice

    Not Secty of State...
  • okojo · 1 year ago
    I think this would be an awful choice... Hillary has the mind to publish great policy, get down and dirty with minute details, but she isn't a diplomat. Actually how she ran her campaign showed she is an awful manager.. Even though I would like a career foreign officer, like Tom Pickering, or Denis Ross, the Sec of State has to be a supreme bureaucratic infighter to battle the Sec of Def, manage the bureaucracy at State and have a good staff that aren't campaign rejects like Mandy Grunwald and Howard Wolfonson, (sp?) Hillary would be better at HHS, or Education. She is a better wonk than diplomat.

    Her health care reform is a perfect example, the plan wasn't bad, the arm twisting, the brow beating and secrecy screwed it up.

    Someone who would be better, but he would be horrible to deal with in the cabinet and probably stage a coup d'etat is President Clinton.
  • anarchy · 1 year ago
    I'm not much of a Hillary fan, but she really couldn't
    be worse than Condoleeza Rice (the worst National
    Security Advisor and worst Secretary of State, ever)

    actually, I think a small lump of cat poo would easily
    out-do Condi's best efforts.
  • vkobaya · 1 year ago
    Yeah, Give Hillary rabies and she would be as bad as Condi. But give any good former secretary of state rabies and they still wouldn't be as bad as Hillary. I'm not familar with all the secretaries of state, but HIllary might come in second on the list of worst, she would rank high on that list regardless.
  • tangodaddy · 1 year ago
    President elect Obama will put into position only those that will further the agenda he has. Hillary should be allowed whatever position she wishes. If the President elect choses her for this position support him and do not denounce her.. The democratic party is moving forward. You have come this far go all the way issue not critism, issue your support. Hillary is smart Hillary is capable and Hillary is up to any job given her.
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    My guess is her name is 'on the list' and that's just that...just like she was 'on the list' of VP candidates. Not much of a chance, but she was there. I don't think President Obama (God I love the sound of that) would take the chance of being so upstaged in negotiations and such with foreign leaders.

    The Clinton's eat up alot of the spotlight wherever they are...not that that is a bad thing mind you, it's just that I'm not sure there is room for that in a position as the face of the United States to foreign countries...
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    Totally agree with you, Ray.
  • 2008 · 1 year ago
    Hillary seems a better fit for HHS... She's far from an international guru, as revealed during the campaign.

    However, John Kerry would be a good bet. Yes, he's a Dem, but Lugar says he doesn't want it and Kerry's first priority is always the nation's best interest. And he has spent years on the Foreign Relations Comm. in Congress...
    Kerry always comes off as intelligent, very knowledgeable, AND sincere, genuine, and trustworthy. He keeps the nation's interest foremost in mind. He's a thinking patriot and we really need that in the Executive Branch, for a change.
  • wufnik · 1 year ago
    It's a truly horrible idea. She demonstrated during the campaign that she has absolutely no sense of nuance whatsoever, and that she's not beneath cheap tricks (remember the gas tax thing?). Plus there' her, you know, continued support for the war. And how about that Lieberman thing? This is not the person to restore credibility to the US. And it would almost certainly represent no change whatsoever from our disastrous mideast policies of the past several decades. Saying she would be better than Rice is hardly a positive endorsement.

    Now, Al Gore...
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    Talk about "cheap tricks".
    I think the "leak" to Andrea Mitchell was about Andrea doing her friend, Hillary, a favor. Madeleine Albright is a "top adviser" to the President-elect's transition team. She is close to Hillary and probably was the leaker.
  • wufnik · 1 year ago
    I didn't know that about Albright. But it makes sense. And the story is certainly all over the place now. It would be a disaster, of course. I can see her dodging bullets already. Then again, this fantasyland that somehow she should be made majority leader is even worse. Why doesn't she just learn to be a good senator and get the health care thing done? That would be a major accomplishment, and it needs to be done, desperately.
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    By today, my theory is shot. It appears Obama has talked to her about this. I think it's a mistake, but he's smarter than I am, and I'll support his choices, at least for 100 days---and probably beyond.
  • wufnik · 1 year ago
    well, he talked with Richardson too, and he's talking to a lot of people. I still think it's the Clinton people trying to run the agenda.
  • Smarmy · 1 year ago
    Hillary doesn't 'compute' in any progressive environment. Her childish 'my way or the highway' is NOT a secretary of state trait. Steer clear of the Clintons. They're tring to get in this administration to criticize and control.
  • bacalove · 1 year ago
    In my opinion, the Secretary of State should be someone who hates war and would only use war as a last resort, and who can firmly see Peace in their mind's eye; someone who recognizes that all men are brothers/sisters and that we all come from the same Source or Creator, to truly make some headway at bringing people together in reconciliation. That said, Hillary Clinton has earned her right to some cabinet post within an Obama administration. I am just not sure if being Secretary of State is the right one for her.
  • GrMtGirl3 · 1 year ago
    I think Hillary would do best for this new Administration as Senate Majority Leader . . . The Party worked very hard to gain new senate seats , draw your talent from other areas and leave the senate strong.
  • High Crimes & Misdemeanors · 1 year ago
    Damn it!!!!!

    Now who are we gonna have to knock some DEM heads together??

    I wanted her as Senate Majority Leader!!!!
  • Apt604 · 1 year ago
    Interesting note: Obama said a few years ago that he was reading "Team of Rivals," Doris Kearns Goodwin's book about how Abraham Lincoln staffed the White House with former opponents. Maybe he's giving it a try himself.
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    Whatever Hillary takes on, Bill is in the background, and she defers to him. He might use Hillary's position to further undermine Obama.
    Terrible choice, and the way the Leak/story got to Andrea Mitchell, who is a friend of Hillary, is not hard to figure out.
    I remarked on it below in a couple of places.