DISQUS

ikonoklast · 1 year ago

She's fucking insane with hubris.

budpaul · 1 year ago

And she's still trying to milk money off people?! WTF?!? Oh, and now the number of people that voted for her is 18 million? Well, I guess if you're making numbers up anyway, why not go big and round up? I assume within a week 20 million will have voted for her.

Deadalus · 1 year ago

John, Not sure if you noticed, but the gay kid with the brown shirt with green "Hillary" in cursive standing behind her to the right was at the KY victory speech, same spot.

He's been yelling "Denver" all night. I bet he's staff or at least super-volunteer.

Dem4life · 1 year ago

Camille Paglia said it best: "I agree that the male staff who Hillary attracts are slick, geeky weasels or rancid, asexual cream puffs."

http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/04/09/...

Deadalus · 1 year ago

This one is clearly a QUEEN.

And his outfit matched hers in KY...as Dan Abram pointed out so hilariously.

njprogressive · 1 year ago

well said john. she is exactly what is wrong with the party.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Obama/Webb

njprogressive · 1 year ago

thats what i am hoping for too. he would be an excellent counter to mccains image of being strong on iraq (which i cannot understand how any reasonable person can think that). especially with the gi bill he got passed recently. throughout webb's senate campaign in 2006 iraq was the forefront of his message. he even wore his sons combat boots (who was at the time stationed in iraq) while he was campaigning to remind people that he had a personal stake in the war. i think it would be a great choice.

njprogressive · 1 year ago

she can pretty much kiss goodbye any hopes at even being considered for the vp spot, although i doubt obama even gave it a second thought.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

I think she's trying to be inspiring or something.

But she still sounds like my 7th grade Algebra teacher harping at me.

aquarius2 · 1 year ago

Total slap in the face to Obama. There is no uniting the party under this woman, NONE She has no class.

Quite_Contrary · 1 year ago

Comment away with "highlights," please. I can't stand to listen to to the woman and have the mute button on.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

I see Wasserman-Schultz there kissing ass.

FunMe · 1 year ago

I would say some bad things about this DLC / DINO type in Florida ... but I am too much of a gentleman.

jennywa · 1 year ago

She has totally lost it!

Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago

She has alot of supporters who love her and this isn't the sort of tone we need. We need to come together and defeat the real enemy.

hawkseye · 1 year ago

I don't think she has as many supporters as she claims. In a few weeks, her "army" will begin to take a second look at Obama.

bkmn · 1 year ago

And tomorrow the MSM will love to pick up on the Hillbots that want to defect to McLame...and focus on that for the next few months...

The wrath of Billary is not over....

For now let us celebrate the accomplishment of the night...congrats Senator (and soon President) Obama!!!

Slay McCain....know you can do it!!!!

blackwolf · 1 year ago

I can't believe what I just saw John. I can't believe it. She didn't concede! No doubt Obama will give the best speech of his career tonight. This is not a speech celebrating unity. Where in the hell are all the superdelegates at?

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Bubba's on the prowl.

risa87 · 1 year ago

Perhaps everyone skipped the previous post of Obama's speech tonight. Go back and read it and adopt the tone he uses. Bitterness is not going to reunite the party and we need everyone!

aquarius2 · 1 year ago

Neither will be a sore loser and refusing to congratulate the winner. You think that is going to unite people?

JennieB · 1 year ago

And she wonders why people call her a bitch? Every time this disgustingly hideous hateful woman opens her mouth, she digs herself in deeper in making sure she DOES NOT get on the ticket. So thanks for that ASSHOLE. Fucking bitch.

blackwolf · 1 year ago

It's fascinating how many women call Hillary a bitch. I can assure you, out of respect, it's not something that every man wants to say. I just find it fascinating that women don't mind venting on the subject.

lovepeaceandallthat · 1 year ago

Who better to judge a woman than another woman?

blackwolf · 1 year ago

Hillary could have run a decent campaign, and came out of this with a lot more respect. Even
tonight, she was still playing politics down to the wire. She's wrong for this political landscape.

Monkei · 1 year ago

Jesus John, give it a break, all you do is complain about Clinton, I am an Obama supporter but your blog has become nothing more than a place for you to complain about HRC ...

blackwolf · 1 year ago

John is far closer to the source than any one of us. He's aware on a much deeper level of what Hillary is all about and the harm she's done to the Dem party. Besides, when you own the blog, you get to say what's on your mind:)

John Aravosis · 1 year ago

Yeah I like to think that history has proven me right on my opinions of Hillary over the past few months.

lovepeaceandallthat · 1 year ago

It is sad we have to give her attention by talking about her... true... but we need to know the truth about her and not let her get away with her lies. Just pointing out her lies takes up lots of space...

Jim Olson · 1 year ago

Did you not just see her arrogance and hubris? She deserves all the approbation she receives. It is not because she is a woman, it is because she is unable to accept that she lost fairly. She has constantly tried to change the rules to suit her, she counts votes very strangely, and she refused a singularly critical moment to establish the party unity she says she will work for. I'm sorry, but Hillary is quickly becoming a tragic figure.

blackwolf · 1 year ago

Jim, you've hit the nail on the head. I'm watching Chris Matthews and they're discussing Hillary's
tactics on keeping her supporters together. I'm worried that Obama may have to put some of
Hillary's demands on the table for consideration.

anotherdumguy · 1 year ago

She is NOT more electable. To be elected you have to win the nomination you miserable bitch.
You Lost.
Bye

dcredhead · 1 year ago

"I will not make any decisions tonight."

Several months ago, I posted on this blog that she is the WRONG candidate and she was, well, a nasty woman. And a lot of people on this blog called me a lot of nasty names. That's all I'm gonna say.

GO BARACK!!

luvie · 1 year ago

Don't make nice, just say "I told you so". You were right.

Miket298 · 1 year ago

Nice touch on the song after her speech as well..."Simply the best, better then all the rest"

Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago

Beyond pathetic.

Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago

United we stand, divided we fall.

dula · 1 year ago

Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Symptoms
The symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder revolve around a pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and sense of entitlement. Often individuals feel overly important and will exaggerate achievements and will accept, and often demand, praise and admiration despite worthy achievements. They may be overwhelmed with fantasies involving unlimited success, power, love, or beauty and feel that they can only be understood by others who are, like them, superior in some aspect of life.

There is a sense of entitlement, of being more deserving than others based solely on their superiority. These symptoms, however, are a result of an underlying sense of inferiority and are often seen as overcompensation. Because of this, they are often envious and even angry of others who have more, receive more respect or attention, or otherwise steal away the spotlight.

John Aravosis · 1 year ago

I thought you were kidding. I just googled this. It's the real definition. Jesus Christ that's freaky. http://allpsych.com/disorders/personality/narci...

lovepeaceandallthat · 1 year ago

And, if she truly has a personality disorder, a key thing to know is that with all types of PD's, the person cannot change -- most therapies just don't work. They can't see themselves, or their problem, clearly at all. You know how when you have an "issue" you may or not work on changing it, but you do realize you have a problem. Or, you may be in denial, but a therapist could determine if you are in denial vs. having a personality disorder.

My father has a personality disorder and although he can identify some of his issues, he can't see the big ones, the main ones. The ones that are part of the personality disorder. I am not a professional in this area, so this is just my laypersons understanding.

So, if Hillary really does have a personality disorder we can't expect her to change one bit on her own. And, even with help, she may not change (it is possible, but not likely for a person with a PD to heal).

tlsintx · 1 year ago

she weirds me out.

TracyWA · 1 year ago

I hope to hell that Obama doesn't offer an olive branch to "the bitch". Her behavior has been beyond despicable. We need to just ignore that she and her freakazoid supporters ever existed from this day forward.

Jim Olson · 1 year ago

This is precisely why she shouldn't be President, and why she shouldn't be Vice President. There's nothing to decide, the rules of the DNC have decided it for her. Obama has more delegates.

tas · 1 year ago

Oh, fuck her. After seeing McSame tonight she can take her ball and go home. He sucked so bad we don't need them in November. And they should not get a seat at the table in January or ever. What a selfish person she is.

Craig69 · 1 year ago

Anyone notice the broomstick Billary left on?

grandma · 1 year ago

No Class...No Dignity whatsoever.....just a total freak'n loser.

Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago

MSNBC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Obama projected to win Montana. Which is the last primary despite the last gaffe from a failed triangulation campaign. Excuse me, Hillary!

bumpkis · 1 year ago

Heard some talk today on Ed Schultz about Obama bailing her out of financial debt as an olive branch. I hope this kills that kind of talk.

duchessofbilgewater · 1 year ago

I wish the cameras would spin around and let us see how many people are actually at these events...

Steve_in_CNJ · 1 year ago

Hillary would have beaten Obama if she had apologized for AUMF. That's how close it was. She was never helped by all the divisive political maneuvering. In fact she might have won despite AUMF if she had kept Obama's AA support under 80%. that was hers to lose.

duchessofbilgewater · 1 year ago

AUMF??

Steve_in_CNJ · 1 year ago

authority to use military force

duchessofbilgewater · 1 year ago

Ah, thanks -- I should have known that

AngelaChanning · 1 year ago

That speech is what my mother would call "nasty-nice."

hawkseye · 1 year ago

Very passive-aggressive

BlueDogDem2 · 1 year ago

Clinton = total slime. Now that it's over I can honestly say I believe she is wicked to the core. Both she and Bill seem to have no values whatsoever but just pure selfishness. What a hateful bitch.

Rustyzipper · 1 year ago

well Its been a long haul, Obama did it ! .. now on to the white house.

Hillary who??

Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago

I like those who supported and love her. We've all been side by side for years.

Demhearts · 1 year ago

They supported Hillary through her racist attacks and lies about every issue. They supported her when she worked with the Republicans in making dirty smears about Obama and Islam, madrassas, and all the rest. Yet it is time to embrace Hillary's supporters and the common values they exhibited in who they supported as a candidate.

aquarius2 · 1 year ago

Not one of these guys are saying that she refused to congratulate AND concede but that is the bottom line, she did neither.

LeslieB · 1 year ago

Her cell phone was turned off, don't you know, and she didn't get the announcement that Obama had won the nomination.

KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago

The music selections exemplified the multiple delusions and the massive, massive denial: "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" and "Simply the Best"...

LeslieB · 1 year ago

Yeah, she wants all 18 million supporters to email her and tell her what to do with her campaign. Here's a suggestion: Concede, acknowledge Obama is the nominee and begin campaigning for him.

Russert reported that she does want the VP slot.

duchessofbilgewater · 1 year ago

Here comes the next president of the United States!!!

aquarius2 · 1 year ago

Here is Obama

Demhearts · 1 year ago

I think this finally settles it. Limbaugh and the other Republicans were right about the Clintons. They are some of the most dishonest, corrupt, conniving, traitorous, and immoral individuals in politics. I don't think I've ever agreed with Rush on a single issue, but I have to respect his instincts on the slimy Clintons. He was right from the beginning about them.

PeteWa · 1 year ago

Rush has never been right about anything, ever. Regardless of how much Hillary is being insane, Rush has never been anything but theater and a shit stirrer.

Demhearts · 1 year ago

I just meant to say that in the 90's, Rush said that Bill and Hillary were dishonest and conniving liars. They were all about the pursuit of power and the politics of personal destruction. Rush was at least right about seeing who they really were.

PeteWa · 1 year ago

You must not remember Rush from that time period very well.
All Rush ever did was make personal attacks that amounted to nothing.
He never actually went after them for their actual flaws (and stating that a politician is after power used as a slur is ridiculous, of course they are they ALL are on both sides of the aisle, and the side aisles as well).
Rush could give a shit that they were / are dishonest, because Rush is dishonest.
It's a game to him, and always has been.
As disgusted as I am with Hillary and Bill at this point in time, there is no way in hell I'm going to be led to believe that they are more dishonest than most, that they are more conniving or whatever.
They both certainly lack grace and class, and quite a few policies of Clinton's were and continue to be disasters for our country, but the "reasons" Rush hated them never made any more sense than a pig with wings.

hawkseye · 1 year ago

Takes one to know one.

Rustyzipper · 1 year ago

Ok, on deck,, The next Prez. Obama

Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago

Having Hillary onboards as Veep would be like giving the presidency a forked-tongue.

Obama's Song

U2 - Beautiful Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omFdpnSu57U

grandma · 1 year ago

Finally here comes someone with dignity and class

Obama !!

Rustyzipper · 1 year ago

NOW! thats a crowd,, wooho


Yes we can, and we did :)

msskwesq · 1 year ago

Hillary is a disgrace. She is a sore looser. Obama must not offer her the Vice Presidency. She must not be rewarded for her deceit. As a voter in a caucus state, I really resent her claiming her winning the popular vote "in the

LeslieB · 1 year ago

Great venue for Obama, stick it to McMore.

msskwesq · 1 year ago

should read: I resent her claiming her "winning the popular vote in the primary states"

duchessofbilgewater · 1 year ago

Yeah, notice how they DO turn the cameras and show the audience at this rally, but not at Cinton's!

Bobby_Sambang · 1 year ago

The best thing to hope for now is that her staff bolts on her, leaving only the most rabid kool-aid drinkers to surround her.

Rustyzipper · 1 year ago

ok, I'm happy again... wooohoooooo.

Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago

Obama declared himself the Democratic nominee. In your face, Hillbots!!! :-)

hawkseye · 1 year ago

But the people in Hillary's auditorium didn't know that he had won because the room was sealed off from any wireless communications. Kind of Stalinist.

Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago

It's not McCain's fault he can't stand change...he damned near crippled with one foot in the grave. ;-)

Steve_in_CNJ · 1 year ago

"These symptoms, however, are a result of an underlying sense of inferiority" ...
i don't think that describes HRC. she just got too comfortable being on a pedestal.

duchessofbilgewater · 1 year ago

How lovely and gracious he just was to hillary! Now PLEASE DO NOT pick her for VP, we beg you!

Rustyzipper · 1 year ago

He is true class, ya think she could have done this?? ppffffttt

Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago

Totally.....

FNReedie · 1 year ago

Obama's speech is a pure class act.

Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago

Hillary's speech wasn't even working class! ;-)

hawkseye · 1 year ago

It was steerage.

mmedefarge · 1 year ago

Hillary must be going even nuttier watching this...I would love to see her apoplectic face. And Bill is probably purple. If she had a conscience, she would be embarassed by how nice he is being to her, especially after her performance a little while ago.

Gay_AF_Vet · 1 year ago

OMG...As an Obama supporter, I'm really glad Obama has more class than the group of "dems" on this site. What a bunch of foul-mouthed, no-class, elitists. Every post gets more hateful and divisive than the one before. DISGUSTING! Shame on you all!!!

PeteWa · 1 year ago

Yeah, heard this song and dance from you earlier, you make as little sense now as you did then.
And calling yourself an Obama supporter is, well, Hillarylarious.

Gay_AF_Vet · 1 year ago

Yeah? And you'll hear it again. So sorry I don't HATE like you do. Try listening to Obama sometime. You might learn something about class.

KISSman · 1 year ago

I usually put her speeches on mute, but tonight I listened in. She had a chance to make me lose some of the distain that I had for her over this primary season. But no. She couldn't be graceful. She couldn't acknowledge that Obama is the Democratic nominee. She acts as if Obama must consult with her and get her approval or get what she wants before she decides to maybe stop running. Well, fuck that. She lost. It's over.

She doesn't deserve to be considered for VP. They had many opportunities to make a play for that position and they failed at every turn. Within the last 24 hours, both Bill and Hillary have said -- or not said -- things that could have help mend the fences. So for-fucking-get it, Hillary. No VP for you.

lovepeaceandallthat · 1 year ago

I thought earlier today that IF she didn't concede tonight that we need to get very suspicious about her true intentions. And who is backing her in this destructive tantrum. Maybe it is just her, just her acting out her nuerosis. But couldn't it also be true that months ago, when she knew she may have lost the delegate count (predicted), that those who influence her may have convinced her (told her?) to stay in a damage Barack Obama as much as possible?

I truly have no idea, but I have a hard time believing this is all about her personality (disorder or not).

FunMe · 1 year ago

"You lost. You nasty woman."

Stop making me laugh!
:-)

Rustyzipper · 1 year ago

I so can't wait to watch the debates with McSame.

houstonray · 1 year ago

You know, I have a sneaking feeling McCain is going to be one of those "oh we only need 2 debates" candidates.....

dula · 1 year ago

She couldn't even muster the bare MINIMUM of grace...she doesn't have the leadership qualities to be President Of The United States. She sets back the women's movement by behaving like an illogical, hysterical, emotionally damaged, silly little girl.

Rustyzipper · 1 year ago

WOW, he is kicking ass..

bachelard · 1 year ago

Oh for the love of God. As a psychologist, I can tell you that there are very few politicians who wouldn't qualify for a diagnosis of narcissistic personality disorder, as broadly as you are applying the term.

What diagnosis do we confer upon a blogger who calls the favored candidate of millions of people a "nasty woman" and declares her mentally ill?

Are we going to have to endure more of this vitriole if she becomes the VP candidate?

lovepeaceandallthat · 1 year ago

Oh, thank you person-with-a -graduate-degree-or-two for telling us feeble minded laypeople that most politicians tend to be self-centered. But you know what? There are plenty of politicians who aren't selfish enough to come even close to having narcisstic personality disorder.

We aren't referring to a "broad" definition of the term. We are quoting the DSM, which is as close as a lay person can get to determining a diagnosis. Yes, of course, we could be and probably are wrong about a true diagnosis for Hillary. Yeah, we get that. We aren't doctors. But the point is that many of us really do think she has a mental problem that goes WAY beyond what the average self-centered politician would present.

The fact that we are calling her mentally ill means that we are avoiding calling her things like "evil" and "the devil". Seeing her as mentally ill is to give her some sympathy and to see her as human. Hey, we're being nice here.

Oh, and she ain't gonna get the VP slot? Obama isn't CRAZY enough to do that!

SociologistTina · 1 year ago

Maybe she IS mentally ill, but overall bachelard, I agree with you. Good point about the "nasty woman" comment.

Butch1 · 1 year ago

This woman doesn't have the sense to be gracious in defeat. Absolutely no public manners on how to act. What's she going to do, take all her supporters and section off a state of her own so she can call herself the president of that state? I used to like her and look what she has turned into, a bitter woman who can't stand to be defeated and will not accept it. She needs to go away and learn some manners on how one conducts one's self when running for office. I don't like what I see and it is insulting to watch a grownup senator act like a spoiled child. Enough already!

houstonray · 1 year ago

She wants comments on her website, comments from us, I say let us give her comments. Let's tell her what she should do next....hmmm, GETTING THE HELL OUT comes to mind first...

Off to hillaryclinton.com

davespicer · 1 year ago

I went there and took a look - the "comments" section is set up to make it look like everyone who posts there supports her. What is to prevent her from citing just the *numbers* of comments while ignoring how many of them were begging her to stop? So I didn't post there.

JamesR · 1 year ago

Oh God - Dude - WHY? Thanks. A lot. My head! My eyes! I went to that site I won't even type the link to because I do not want it in my profile history, - the one you mentioned - like the proverbial cat, or like Henry Cho would say, like in Star Trek to the planet Boldlygo. I am trying NOT to type profanities but it is hard to properly express myself without them, in this case.

Whoa. The partner(s) of a Narcissist have issues ALL THEIR OWN. The term "Indoctrination" and "Deprogramming" spring to mind. From the shorter list of non profane words. It is worse than Hillaryis44, which I just went to recently, just to see it, and it depressed me greatly. THat thinking beings with computers and minimal language skills could co all that, kinda a bummer.

I know blogging tends to attract those of like mind, but geez - I would like to see more evidence of said mind. I saw no evidence of fair posting, plenty deletion and much emotional piling on at the MOST INNOCUOUS non-offensive-to-Obama comments. Like I remember the movie "Heathers" being, save 'Heathers' was funny. I couldn't do it. I just couldn't. I got halfway and just got a pain overload.

I pick my blogs, the ones I read and the ones I dare to contribute to, carefully. They all support thoughtful discussion and variety and provide news of sorts. There is none such on H***********.com I sincerely think that any E-Mails that say what they do not want to hear will be wasted. So similar to Freepers I had to just stop. If I save one person from having a useless negative experience my typing will have been rewarded.

With friends like those, well, I don't think anyone really is served by friends like those...

THANK YOU AMERICABLOG for an Oasis of sanity, even within the most offbeat posting.

jr · 1 year ago

Hillary's speech and Ferraro's shtick on Neil Cavuto's show were disgusting. These bitter old ladies can't wait until Roe is overturned and women have to coathanger themselves if they're raped

Bucky55 · 1 year ago

It might be good to make her VP, then he can send her to funerals and such. If she stays in the Senate and becomes Senate Majority Leader she will make him pay and pay.

JamesR · 1 year ago

Norma Desmond. In color.

Future Ambassador to Antarctica.

SilenceDogood · 1 year ago

I dated a narcissist. Of course, I didn't know he was a narcissist when I started dating him. By the time I figured out what hit me, I was a mess. I joined a support group for people who got fucked ( or not, as they really hate sex) by narcissists. Trust me.......she IS a narcissist. She feeds on the attention, the adoration......they need it like an alcholic needs alcohol....like a crack addict needs crack. They can't function without it. Oh, and they're reallllllly good at playing victim. Merriam Webster should put a picture of her next to the word.

lov446 · 1 year ago

Hillary is now going to demand that Obama give her the V.P.! She is alreadly trying to tell him what to do, as in having a meeting, when to have the meeting, what she wants at the meeting, and all this before she is even offered the V.P. position; can you imagine how her and Bill would be telling Obama what to do if she was the V.P.? This would be a nightmare ticket!! Not a dream ticket, no a nightmare!
Surely Obama will not let down his supporters by letting her take over his nomination by telling him what to do already, and all this before she is even on the ticket!
Hillary thinks she has Obama at her mercy because she thinks he needs her supporters to win, so she feels she can just call the shots starting NOW!!

canuck55 · 1 year ago

Watching MSNBC and what is wrong with these guys, making excuses for Hillary and not calling her out for this classless, delusional, arrogant, divisive, Desmondesque flight of fantasy??
She is attempting to bully Obama into giving her the VP slot and the only way to deal with a bully is to stand up to them and say no, or they keep coming back for more.
God, if she is VP, next thing you know she will be shooting her friend in the face...

2008 · 1 year ago

wow-- you can't win with Americablog. You're either pronounced a weak quitter or simply insane for going the distance, against the odds. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Obama has won the cult of personality, plus he's freaking smart. There you go, but Hillary deserves credit, too.

How she could ever hurdle the sexism apparent from a bunch of gay dudes, I do not know! Bottomline, men are just scared of women holding their own and taking their full measure. She's doing nothing less than what the media has accepted with Bushco on a regular basis.

lovepeaceandallthat · 1 year ago

I know plenty of men who would love for women to take total control of this planet and try to save it before it is destroyed. Not all men are scared of women in power.

I wish the first woman president could actually be a council of women (maybe 5, 7, 13 women?) who would confer and grace us with great wisdom. It is only fair -- men have had their turn way too long.

See? I guess I AM a radical feminist. Yet I can't stand Hillary and love Obama.

Oh, and your right that Clinton is doing what Bushco does on a regular basis. But that doesn't mean she is being treated unfairly... wouldn't that mean that she has been treated fairly by the media? She has had plenty of opportunity to make an ass of herself. The thing is, we don't have to ELECT her if we don't want to. It is an ELECTION. Someone has to lose. We aren't being unfair... we just don't want her to be president.

SociologistTina · 1 year ago

I disdain her actions, would not be surprised if she had a personality disorder (which IS treatable, btw, but many PD's don't seek and co-operate with therapy), but I really wish people here would refrain from using Hate Speech with regard to anyone. Let's criticize her actions, but not her very BEING.

LeslieB · 1 year ago

I agree. The primaries are over. Obama is our presumptive nominee. It's time to work toward reuniting the Democratic party. Because, like it or not, Obama will need Clinton's supporters, fellow Democrats, to win against McMore.

dula · 1 year ago

She's doing nothing less than what the media has accepted with Bushco on a regular basis.
-2008

Yeah that's what we hate about her...she's become a Republican and makes me wretch when I see her now just like I do with Republicans.

Chipmaker · 1 year ago

So Hillary is the same personality type as Michael Jackson and most Yankees fans?

Rustyzipper · 1 year ago

I just wrote this on the Hillary Site:

Hillary, I have always liked you, your 2 brothers were at a Fund raiser i had, i met you and bill.

I lost champaingns, and i know what thats like.... it sucks. But Please move on, back obama now, don't play games, i was dumb fouded at your speech tonight. he will be the next Prez, Thank gawd Bush will be history.... Please, as a Life long dem, do the right thing.....and back Obama.

Balt_O_Matt · 1 year ago

We've been enjoying drinks with a friend, and THIS is what I have to see when I log on. She didn't concede? WTF? This is insane, I tell you. Insane. She's a lunatic.

I just emailed her campaign and told them that I respect her work but that she needs to drop out immediately. I suggest we all do that.

LawMichigander · 1 year ago

You know I really dislike Hillary and how the Clinton's present themselves and conduct their affairs. However the Clintons are the Republican's worst nightmare, still, I think they might wet themselves at the thought of going up against them. The key would be requiring some sort of "understanding" regarding Bill's role. Obama could bring Hillary on as VP with his Change theme because he always talks about working with everyone and bringing everyone together and Hillary could be a major part of that. I think it could be a good fit under the right circumstances, that is the key. Also without elaborating she does bring a certain demographic to the General Election for Obama. The Repubs will be using 527s and God knows what else to run a negative slime campaign regardless of what McCain does, that is what they do when they can't win on merit alone.

Eyeball_Kid · 1 year ago

I wanted to go to HRC's website, as she suggested in her speech, tell her what I think she should do about the primary race. My intent was to tell her to become a good Senator for New York, which is the office that she earned.

But her website doesn't give anyone that option. The only option, upon signing the message window, is to say, in big red letters, "I'm with you, Hillary, and I'm proud of everything we're fighting for." There's a "comment" section, but only after the mandatory "I'm with you" message is already given.

Now, what is THAT? Well the structure of the "message" suggests that you're in support of whatever Hillary decides if you send the message, your "comments" be damned. It virtually insures that the responses that HRC gets will be overwhelmingly supportive, with no real suggestions that she back out of her narcissistic quest for her private version of Hillary.

Pathetic and very dishonest, like the "I won the popular vote" lie that she repeated this evening.

houstonray · 1 year ago

scroll down to the bottom of that home page and there is a small "contact us" button and there is a page you can fill out to make a comment. You don't have to donate money or subscribe. I'm not sure who reads it, but I'm sure someone in her 'former' campaign will. Maybe if enough of us tell her to just go away, she'll get the hint. Oh wait, she's a Clinton, nevermind...

ggm1957 · 1 year ago

I did just send a comment. Thank you for letting us know how to do that, because I sure didn't want to send an "I'm with you message." This is the copy of what I did send - Hillary, I feel that you have done women a great disservice with your antics as you campaigned. I am sorry to say that your true colors came out when you ended up in the manure pile with your lies. Your dishonesty really did you in and I am really disappointed in your actions. I wish you could have run a clean campaign and not as a manipulator. Just with your name recognition, you could have gone far. Any sexism issues you have come from you and your followers. Instead of taking the high road and staying with the issues and how you would handle them, you constantly attacked Obama - or had your cohorts do it for you. It is time for you to close down the campaign and go back to being a Senator. As a 50 year old white working class woman, I am not proud of you and you did not inspire anything in me except shame. Stop before you ruin it further for any future woman who wants to run for president. Gloria

Eyeball_Kid · 1 year ago

Thanks for your reply.

Happyidiot · 1 year ago

Why must we be nice to her?

Republicans begin to highlight Clinton’s criticism of Obama

Hours before the polls closed Tuesday in the final two Democratic presidential primaries, the Republican National Committee began circulating a video of Hillary Clinton questioning Barack Obama’s qualifications to be commander-in-chief, and acknowledging John McCain has this important presidential credential.

“Senator McCain will bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign, I will bring a lifetime of experience and Senator Obama will bring a speech that he gave in 2002.”

K240says · 1 year ago

They could do this with ANY of the primary contenders, just the same way that Dems could dig up footage of Huckabee or Romney pointing out the reasons that McCain wouldn't make the best president. Don't act like this is only something Hillary did just to piss you off! That'd be... well ... silly.

The best thing to do, if you want a democratic president next year, is to STOP sniping at each other, ffs.

Happyidiot · 1 year ago

Hillary threw the kitchen sink, not Obama.

K240says · 1 year ago

A good point, perhaps. I understand she made those comments on March 8; and maybe her team thought that his "experience issue" was a valid point to bring up nationwide, especially when she thought she still had a decent chance at the nomination back then.

If she'd said these words more recently, particularly with the direct comparison between McCain and Obama in the phrase, it would have been much more irresponsible and malicious on her part - since it was pretty obvious - even to her, i'm sure - that the nomination would go to Obama.

At that time, she was seriously trying to convince democrats that she'd be the better candidate against McCain - which lends to the comparison of what McCain would have, and what she was claiming she would bring to the table, and then what she purported that Obama would bring. Was that a wise choice? Probably not.

Is it a choice that any political operative would have made? who knows.

Are there clips of things being said about Hillary by Democrats, that Repubs could use, had she been the nominee? Most likely, yes.

Is it all just another red herring for the population? I think so.

Will it work?

MikeyBackwards · 1 year ago

K240says, did you watch Clinton's speech. John nails it with regards to her tone. She absolutely was nasty in her lack of grace; her lack of reality, her lack of anything approaching recognition that she had lost. I saw a post from RealClearPolitics suggesting that she wants respect. Now that is a two way street. She had ample opportunity to make good on her promise that she would work hard for the Democratic nominee. Frequently during her speech the delusional individuals in the crowd began chanting that she should not concede her defeat. Each of these presented a chance for a person who claims to be a great leader to say, in effect, 'hold on now; I understand that you are disappointed. I am too, but Barak Obama is now our standard bearer and it is time for us to close ranks and defeat our common enemy, John McCain'. She did not do this. Instead, once again, she chose to stoke her own ego. She could have said that she was not going to make any decisions about her political future, but that future would not hold her as the 2008 Democratic nominee as president, but she did not. She could have acknowledged that while the fight was a good one; America had spoken and chosen Barak Obama over her. She could have started her remarks with a disavowal of her claims of inequity in this campaign and begun to heal the wounds. Instead she gave her supporters an outlet to harden the view that Clinton had fostered that somehow she was robbed of the nomination rather than acknowledge that she had failed to persuade the people who voted that she was the better candidate. In short, it was a nasty speech by an evil nasty, nasty, NASTY woman. This racist, sexist, venal person needs to be taken aside and told in no uncertain terms that the only acceptable course for her to take is to embrace Obama whole-heartedly, and to bring her voters back into the fold or she will be stripped of every committee assignment in the Senate and receive no support whatsoever in any re-election campaign she should run. In short she should be told that if she continues to exercise the nuclear option, she will be obliterated.

mirth · 1 year ago

"Don't act like this is only something Hillary did just to piss you off!"

And from above:

"...This whole post is nothing but ... snottiness, to use a word my mother always employed for such situations. This makes americablog no better than those creeps over at LFG or Malkin's site, or whatnot. It's a shame, you've lost most credibility in my book for being a level headed analyst or journalist of any sort - this sort of crap is exactly the type of stuff that is simple opinion by talking heads being shoved at us, on the 24 hour news channels, as "journalism"."

Define sniping.

Two-way street, Baby.

K240says · 1 year ago

sniping: To make malicious, underhand remarks or attacks (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/snipe)

There's your definition. Perhaps my wording was snarky, but I wouldn't call it malicious. The original statement was essentially "why must we be nice to her?" with the implication of "look what she did!" My counter-point being, the opposition can always look at what was said by primary opponents from the same party as their opponent. Whether she gave them too much "ammo", perhaps is a valid discussion (i.e. were they valid points to bring up in the first place, even if so, were they more hurtful to the cause overall?) - but none of that excuses incivility on our part. That's what I meant by "don't act like she did it to piss you off". I honestly believe that Hillary and her team didn't say those things JUST to piss all of us off, and thereby we shouldn't be restrained by good manners and intelligent discourse because .... what? "they did it first"? I don't know. Also, it was more of a comment to all of us, not just Happyidiot, and I apologize that it wasn't more clear. My intent being "don't do this" not "you, specifically, ARE doing this" which would be much more of an attack, and be more "sniping", as you claim.

Secondly, your "tu quoque" argument against me may or may not be appropriate, but by no means invalidates my post criticizing the tone here. Saying "Two-way street, Baby" is not only patronizing, but is merely a distraction from the original intent of my comment. I'm not the one writing a blog, and I'm quite positive people don't come to this website to see what I have to say. My original expression of disappointment at the content of this post still stands.

Oh, and don't call me "Baby".

K240says · 1 year ago

Sad, John. I have bookmarked and made a habit of coming over here from C&L. But hell, how many times can you call her a "nasty woman" in one farking post? This whole post is nothing but ... snottiness, to use a word my mother always employed for such situations. This makes americablog no better than those creeps over at LFG or Malkin's site, or whatnot. It's a shame, you've lost most credibility in my book for being a level headed analyst or journalist of any sort - this sort of crap is exactly the type of stuff that is simple opinion by talking heads being shoved at us, on the 24 hour news channels, as "journalism".

And here it is, too.

This is one of the many reasons I have totally burnt out on being an activist, or even giving a flying fart. There is nobody who can have a conversation without infantile name calling.

GG


edit: oh, and before I get dismissed as some "crazy Hillary supporter", I wanted to vote for Kucinich, then Edwards, but by the time the primary was in my state, it was just these two, and I voted for Obama. I just really, really hate the level of discourse out here. Makes me afraid that even with "change", nothing will change, it will just be "us" in charge and calling names at "the other".

DoctorJ · 1 year ago

Let's not fear the Hillary anymore. She won't be VP, and she won't stop Obama from winning in November. It's his time, pure and simple, and even a ruthless, conniving, narcissistic Clinton -- Hillary, not Bill, but take your pick -- won't stop him.

Busboy · 1 year ago

I could say something true; but, so unkind as to be banned....

aquarius2 · 1 year ago

Oh hell, just say it, I doubt you will be banned, maybe bombed with hate comments but not banned.

Busboy · 1 year ago

Thanks, AQ-2. But, I'm going to let her R.I.P. for now

Busboy · 1 year ago

Listen, Doc bachelard. John knows the woman better than you do. We should go with John A on this one.

Busboy · 1 year ago

Uh, Doc, while you're practicing medicine on the internet? I have a negative rating of over 4000. Why do I keep posting here?

John Aravosis · 1 year ago

LOL because we secretly love you. You're kind of like our mascot.

AngelaChanning · 1 year ago

Just how does one get a negative 4000 score?! LOL. And here I was not feeling any love with a score of 2 or 3. LOL.

LeslieB · 1 year ago

I remember John promised you a toaster when you hit negative 700. We should pass the hat and get you a minus 4000 prize. LOL.

So why do you keep posting here? Lie down on the sofa here and tell us about your childhood Busboy? :-)

Busboy · 1 year ago

She can afford treatment if she wants it. She doesn't want treatment; she wants POWER!