I agree...I think many people, men and women, look at HRC and think, "...there but for the grace of God..." God, in this case, being a certain red-faced patriarch...
LOL, Drudge currently has up a huge picture of Hillary obviously drunk. Now who would trust such a person with their finger on the nuclear button? Hillbots try to claim that Billary is being attacked for her alleged female gender. But face it folks, a witch is a witch regardless.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
why is it hillary gets to play the sexism card... and Obama hasn't even attempted to play the race card?
maybe because he has substance?
I'd LOVE for hillary to imply that racism doesn't exist in this country anymore... or that sexism is a bigger problem.
THAT'D be wild... open mouth, insert Jimmy Choo. She'd be done before she stepped away from the podium.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Susan Sarandon on supporting Obama:
Her financial and vocal support for Barack Obama has not endeared her to some fellow Democrats.
"I've got a lot of flak from feminists who feel that I should be supporting Hillary Clinton, but I thought the whole point of feminism is that you're not supposed to be defined by gender," she says.
Anyone but Racist Obama..It is Hillary in the #1 spot or McCain !
ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith)
· 1 year ago
Thank you for giving such a clear example of what mediocre, lazy, and simple-minded thinking looks like. Rather than spewing out plattitudes, try some rational thought for a change.
I have no problems with you liking Hillary better, but McCain? What you are saying is that you are voting against Obama and not for your principles, and that's dumb no matter how you slice it. Sorry I'm not more diplomatic, but I'm tired of entertaining fools like you who think being vengeful and spiteful because your candidate lost is actually an acceptable way for any primate above chimps to act.
A large part of why we have the current commander-in-idiot in the WH is because of fools like you who let their emotions override sound judgement. If you claim to be any democrat at all then supporting McCain is the intellectual equivalent of using scorpion tails to scratch your back, not too bright.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
nanging
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david duke?? is it really you?
Becka4
· 1 year ago
I agree totally. I thought Hillary was intelligent and capable and would make a great president--I thought Obama would be better but would have been fine with her. UNTIL her DO ANYTHING TO WIN attempt started--with lying, bending/changing the facts/rules and attacking her opponent to degrade him. That tells me if we cannot trust her in the campaign she is not a woman we can trust to lead our country. She is acting like a little "girl" not a woman. The petulance, pouting, blaming and histrionic and manipulative behavior do not demonstrate that she is ready to tackle VERY DIFFICULT decisions. I am a psychiatric nurse--so I have nothing against emotions--BUT they are not appropriate to be used in negative ways like acting out to get your way. We try to teach our children that. Rebecca
PeteWa
· 1 year ago
Hillary is to girl power **** as **** Bush is to boy power
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
you said it, PeteWa!
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Sorry, but I fume every time someone, anyone, refers to women over the legal age as "girls"..."girl" is a derogatory term which is used to trivialize women and has been used forever to do so.
And at age 60, Clinton is an aging woman, as many of us are.
Why do Americans continue to act like children as though maturity is a bad thing? And I'm voting for a mature man, BTW...with a wonderful, liberated wife and 2 young daughters who are going to be awesome women.
scottinsf
· 1 year ago
I agree that this campaign has brought out stupid use of the word "girl". Case in point: John's use of it here (and yes, I know Jacki used the term as well). O&W, you were around during the "big girl" controversy weren't you? To this day I disagree with John on that. Just as I disagree with him over his attitude towards Pam Spaulding and transexual rights. I don't think it makes him a right-wing sexist though (not that you are saying that, but it does get said by many people out there). Both sides need to chill here or we're going to have another "big girl" episode. People will start accusing John of being a sexist, Politico-linking, right-winger and John will dig his feet in or lash back back in his often inappropriate ways. We've seen this happen before and it's a pity when Ablog's great Washington insight gets derailed by petty arguments. Jacki makes some excellent points and John is basically repeating them here. People should focus on that and not the stupid term "girl power".
Use of the word "boy" has it's own nasty dynamics right now and THAT I find much more troubling than the term "girl power".
John Aravosis
· 1 year ago
Damn, and no one even noticed I used the phrase "You Go Girl" this morning :-) What's the point of being contrary if you guys won't even pay attention!
Smarmy
· 1 year ago
Everything Hillary ever did or had or became is because of Bill. She's no trail blazing feminist. In fact, she's arranged it that ANY criticism of her is called sexist. She plays a game using her rules and accepts nothing else as valid. No wonder Bill porked everything in a skirt.
jr
· 1 year ago
Pelosi, Gregoire, Sebelius, and McCaskill would all rock as president. Hillary wants to bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran like McCombover while her supporters say racist things about Michelle Obama
lynchie
· 1 year ago
Well it seems that Geraldine Ferraro wants an investigation as to whether there was sexual bias against Hillary and who started it.
The effects of racism and sexism on the campaign have resulted in a split within the Democratic Party that will not be easy to heal before election day. Perhaps it's because neither the Barack Obama campaign nor the media seem to understand what is at the heart of the anger on the part of women who feel that Hillary Clinton was treated unfairly because she is a woman or what is fueling the concern of Reagan Democrats for whom sexism isn't an issue, but reverse racism is
The only racism Ferraro seems to consider is the racism she feels she was a victim of; she never stops to wonder whether Obama might have been the subject of racism. And she touches only briefly on the controversy surrounding her own remarks, writing, "I was accused of being racist for a statement I made about the influence of blacks on Obama's historic campaign," which isn't an accurate characterization of what she originally said. Moreover, she ignores any discussion of the role her comments played in creating the split in the party she writes about. In short, the desire she expresses to see these problems dealt with might feel a whole lot more genuine if she had examined the fault on both sides, not just on the one she opposes.
The fact that Hillary ran a piss poor campaign, couldn't raise money in the past few months, pissed away $10 million to a consultant who proved wrong in every decision, surrrounder herself with Bill's power friends who are out of touch with the young voter, promised change when she has protected the status quo, claimed to be for the average white, blue collar worker and then revealed the Clinton fortune, said as far as she knew he wasn't a muslim, pilloried Obama for statements by his preacher who was not part of his campaign committee, threatened to cut off funding to the DNC if she didn't get her way, threatened to carry the fight to Denver (which i am sure she will), utilized every fraudulent, unethical method of Karl Rove and still feels she is part of a broad sexist conspiracy not any of the above.
One final point from the article:
The people asked by Ferraro to do the study are:
The Shorenstein Center was established by a gift in part from Walter Shorenstein, a friend of the Clinton family's who sent a memo to Democratic superdelegates this year bemoaning what he perceived as bias in the press -- specifically, bias against Clinton and for Obama.
Yes Hillary, you will be shaking a piece of paper like Neville Chamberlain did after Hitler signed the peace treaty. I have proof i was screwed, I have proof I was screwed. Just shut up and get used to defeat.
msra
· 1 year ago
I fully agree and share the sentiments of this author. Strong, successful women are not letting excuses of "sexism" stand in their way. While this political strategy has generated lots of attention it is also creating a wedge that is contrary to our goals as a country and as women. At a time when our focus needs to be on the goal of cleaning up the mess Washington has created, hopefully logical thought and reason will prevail. The way women vote in November will affect the lives of our very own children and we are charged with the responsibility to make it based on something other than gender, race or emotions. Cutting off our noses to spite our faces is never productive for women, men or America.
Coming Undone
· 1 year ago
Hillary never had girl power, woman power or female power. Just about everything that Clinton has is because she has a powerful husband, she is a Senator because of her husband and she is able to run for President because of her husband, so she is not a feminist or a trailblazer for women.
Hillary didn't see anything wrong with her husband using his powerful job to have sex or sexual relations with women, but now when it benefits her she wants to act like she speaks for all women who have been mistreated by men.
Hillary and her supporters like Geraldine will take the second place to their white male counterparts but they will not take second place to a black man .
I have news for Hillary strong women don't always win, they lose sometimes but their strength shows in the way that they go for the win.
lynchie
· 1 year ago
Will Geraldine and Hillary be going after the Catholic Church for their sexism or is their outrage only reserved for Obama.
Since I've already effectively excommunicated myself from the Catholic Church, in which I was raised, I'll go ahead and say it: Sometimes, the Vatican boys are just so cute when they're mad.
On Thursday, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued a decree against the ordination of female priests, saying flat out that bishops who perform such ordinations and the women who get them will be automatically excommunicated -- meaning the second it's done, the people involved have irretrievably fallen from grace and are no longer Catholics, whether the Vatican ever finds out about it or not. No heaven for you!
Reuters explains:
"Excommunication is usually 'ferendae sententiae,' imposed as punishment.
But some offenses, including heresy, schism, and laying violent hands on the Pope, are considered so disruptive of ecclesiastical life that they trigger automatic excommunication, or 'latae sententiae.'"
Ordaining a woman priest, or seeking ordination as a woman, is now right up there with laying violent hands on the pope.
Let's hear from you Hillbots does your outrage reach all the way to the Vatican.
Milli
· 1 year ago
Best comment on Hillary that I read. Thanks John.
mr_ed
· 1 year ago
Hey, Jacki, are you still "honing in" on stuff? Moron.
PeteWa
· 1 year ago
What a constructive, on topic, and logical comment.
/snark
scottinsf
· 1 year ago
Melissa McEwan is one of the bloggers out there that is doing feminists like me a huge disservice by trying to tie the Obama campaign to sexist attitudes. Ms. McEwan is being disingenuous by doing this and loses a lot of credibility by doing so.
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God, in this case, being a certain red-faced patriarch...
Time for a smart leader
maybe because he has substance?
I'd LOVE for hillary to imply that racism doesn't exist in this country anymore... or that sexism is a bigger problem.
THAT'D be wild... open mouth, insert Jimmy Choo. She'd be done before she stepped away from the podium.
Her financial and vocal support for Barack Obama has not endeared her to some fellow Democrats.
"I've got a lot of flak from feminists who feel that I should be supporting Hillary Clinton, but I thought the whole point of feminism is that you're not supposed to be defined by gender," she says.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=...
I have no problems with you liking Hillary better, but McCain? What you are saying is that you are voting against Obama and not for your principles, and that's dumb no matter how you slice it. Sorry I'm not more diplomatic, but I'm tired of entertaining fools like you who think being vengeful and spiteful because your candidate lost is actually an acceptable way for any primate above chimps to act.
A large part of why we have the current commander-in-idiot in the WH is because of fools like you who let their emotions override sound judgement. If you claim to be any democrat at all then supporting McCain is the intellectual equivalent of using scorpion tails to scratch your back, not too bright.
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david duke?? is it really you?
She is acting like a little "girl" not a woman. The petulance, pouting, blaming and histrionic and manipulative behavior do not demonstrate that she is ready to tackle VERY DIFFICULT decisions. I am a psychiatric nurse--so I have nothing against emotions--BUT they are not appropriate to be used in negative ways like acting out to get your way.
We try to teach our children that. Rebecca
**** as ****
Bush is to boy power
And at age 60, Clinton is an aging woman, as many of us are.
Why do Americans continue to act like children as though maturity is a bad thing? And I'm voting for a mature man, BTW...with a wonderful, liberated wife and 2 young daughters who are going to be awesome women.
Use of the word "boy" has it's own nasty dynamics right now and THAT I find much more troubling than the term "girl power".
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/05/...
The effects of racism and sexism on the campaign have resulted in a split within the Democratic Party that will not be easy to heal before election day. Perhaps it's because neither the Barack Obama campaign nor the media seem to understand what is at the heart of the anger on the part of women who feel that Hillary Clinton was treated unfairly because she is a woman or what is fueling the concern of Reagan Democrats for whom sexism isn't an issue, but reverse racism is
The only racism Ferraro seems to consider is the racism she feels she was a victim of; she never stops to wonder whether Obama might have been the subject of racism. And she touches only briefly on the controversy surrounding her own remarks, writing, "I was accused of being racist for a statement I made about the influence of blacks on Obama's historic campaign," which isn't an accurate characterization of what she originally said. Moreover, she ignores any discussion of the role her comments played in creating the split in the party she writes about. In short, the desire she expresses to see these problems dealt with might feel a whole lot more genuine if she had examined the fault on both sides, not just on the one she opposes.
The fact that Hillary ran a piss poor campaign, couldn't raise money in the past few months, pissed away $10 million to a consultant who proved wrong in every decision, surrrounder herself with Bill's power friends who are out of touch with the young voter, promised change when she has protected the status quo, claimed to be for the average white, blue collar worker and then revealed the Clinton fortune, said as far as she knew he wasn't a muslim, pilloried Obama for statements by his preacher who was not part of his campaign committee, threatened to cut off funding to the DNC if she didn't get her way, threatened to carry the fight to Denver (which i am sure she will), utilized every fraudulent, unethical method of Karl Rove and still feels she is part of a broad sexist conspiracy not any of the above.
One final point from the article:
The people asked by Ferraro to do the study are:
The Shorenstein Center was established by a gift in part from Walter Shorenstein, a friend of the Clinton family's who sent a memo to Democratic superdelegates this year bemoaning what he perceived as bias in the press -- specifically, bias against Clinton and for Obama.
Yes Hillary, you will be shaking a piece of paper like Neville Chamberlain did after Hitler signed the peace treaty. I have proof i was screwed, I have proof I was screwed. Just shut up and get used to defeat.
Hillary didn't see anything wrong with her husband using his powerful job to have sex or sexual relations with women, but now when it benefits her she wants to act like she speaks for all women who have been mistreated by men.
Hillary and her supporters like Geraldine will take the second place to their white male counterparts but they will not take second place to a black man .
I have news for Hillary strong women don't always win, they lose sometimes but their strength shows in the way that they go for the win.
http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/2008/05/30/...
Vatican to women: No stinkin' girls allowed!
Since I've already effectively excommunicated myself from the Catholic Church, in which I was raised, I'll go ahead and say it: Sometimes, the Vatican boys are just so cute when they're mad.
On Thursday, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued a decree against the ordination of female priests, saying flat out that bishops who perform such ordinations and the women who get them will be automatically excommunicated -- meaning the second it's done, the people involved have irretrievably fallen from grace and are no longer Catholics, whether the Vatican ever finds out about it or not. No heaven for you!
Reuters explains:
"Excommunication is usually 'ferendae sententiae,' imposed as punishment.
But some offenses, including heresy, schism, and laying violent hands on the Pope, are considered so disruptive of ecclesiastical life that they trigger automatic excommunication, or 'latae sententiae.'"
Ordaining a woman priest, or seeking ordination as a woman, is now right up there with laying violent hands on the pope.
Let's hear from you Hillbots does your outrage reach all the way to the Vatican.
/snark
I applaud Jacki Schechner for speaking up.