AMERICAblog: Hillary's new message: I'm "more authentically American than Barack Obama"
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Rich, white trash bitch...oh, and Corporate Whore.
jr
· 1 year ago
"I'm not a scary black man that hates America"-Hillary "Reverend Wright was a Muslim"-Larry Johnson
Wisconsin Liberal
· 1 year ago
the problem is if she ends up being the nominee, I'll have to again vote against a candidate (McInsane), instead of voting for a candidate. Yeah this is a great system of getting the leader of the free (?) world.
kipper
· 1 year ago
Bottom line people: what state will Senator Obama win in November that Senator Clinton will not? Politico has it nailed this morning: Senator Obamas problems with Jewish voters ( Florida) , working class whites ( the bitter ones: Ohio) and , so far, Hispanics ( New Mexico)..... so, again, what state does he win in the general election that she does not??
Ann_in_KC
· 1 year ago
Your questions = moot point
Barack Obama is our next president.
Rab
· 1 year ago
Hey Kipper snack, half the country hates Hillary's guts. Thats enough to make her UNELECTABLE.
kipper
· 1 year ago
that didn't answer the question.... do you really think any election is going to be won by a landslide?? so what if " 50% of the country hate her guts "..... 50+1 keeps McCain from putting 2-3 judges on the Supreme Court....
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
Earlier this morning HuffPo had 3 or 4 photos of Clinton meeting with the Mayor of Hammond and other NW Indiana pols in a bar and downing a Boilermaker. One showed her with a shot of Four Roses and another ready to chug a beer. But the pictures have been squelched: apparently the Clinton campaign realized what bad publicity they are and have gotten them censored. They show her lack of judgment and what kind of a message do they send to her daughter's generation about excessive drinking? I have e-mailed the DNC that there are many of us who have seen them and will spread the word anyway. The press should be showing them but they will continue to try to destroy Obama for telling the truth.
Rab
· 1 year ago
Obama has mass appeal, she doesn't. Its a landslide with Obama and a close (too close to call) election with her. Remember, the congress is up for election, coattails are important, Hillary doesn't help, Obama does.
theWalrus
· 1 year ago
If somone had told me ten years ago that sometime in the near future liberal, progressive blogs would be doing to the Clintons what the rightwing was doing to them then I would have never believed it. It really is astonishing.
Rab
· 1 year ago
You know whats astonishing? Progressives not waking up and seeing Hillary for what she really is, repug-lite. Can't you recognize her "its all about me" attitude. How many more examples do you need Walrus? I supported Edwards at one time and some of the best truths spoken about her were by Edwards. Go to youtube and educated yourself.
kipper
· 1 year ago
Landslide.. in the Electoral College?? really buddy??? I wish I had your faith
Ksue
· 1 year ago
The woman's tactics are despicable.
Some friends came by last night, a gay couple. They were taken aback by my "Mama for Obama" bumper sticker. Shocked that I wasn't a Hillary supporter.
It saddens me to see otherwise delightful, intelligent people still stuck on the "Bill and Hill are pro-gay, always have been always will be, that's all I need to know about politics" train.
Talk about still living in 1992.
Yes, Bill was a breath of fresh air after 41's Presidency. But about 5 days after he got into office, I had a sick feeling in my stomach. And everything spiraled downward after that.
Bill and Hill have been shinin' us Boomers on, folks, they've been shinin' us on.
We don't need another 4-8 years of the Bush/Clinton family legacy rule.
Belinda
· 1 year ago
Ksue: "It saddens me to see otherwise delightful, intelligent people still stuck on the 'Bill and Hill are pro-gay, always have been always will be, that's all I need to know about politics' train."
Did you take the time to clue them in? Upon what are they basing their absurd belief? Bill and Hillary Clinton spearheaded the DADT military regulation which bans all openly gay soldiers and requires their discharge and sometimes even court-marshall. The Clintons also rushed through DOMA and enshrined anti-gay descrimination into federal regulations. There are many more examples and not least of which thousands of state level gay employees were fired during the Clinton Administration because of the anti-gay backlash they created. Now I rarely agree with Log Cabin Republicans on issues of policy. But their website has some of the best documentation of how Bill and Hillary Clinton set back civil rigths for glbt people for decades. The damage they did was devastating to many glbt families.
johnosahon
· 1 year ago
Joe can you talk about the issue below:
"A firm that has donated to the president's charity is accused of collaborating with the government in its crackdown on Tibetan activists. Hillary Clinton has spoken out against China's actions."
Make that "educate" yourself. Oh well, everybody needs edumacation.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
Hillary, you're making it really hard for me to hang on to the fact that i will vote for you if you are the nominee. please stop with the wingnut speeches. you are making me sick...
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
what Hillary is doing right now is why so many are turning away from her it's not just this blog it's not just people who have an irrational hatred of all things Clinton it's not woman-haters
President Bush admits, on the record, to authorizing torture. Nothing happens.
dandMN
· 1 year ago
What!?! Did Hil fire Penn and hire Rove when we weren't looking?
kevinbgoode
· 1 year ago
The Republicans have wanted Hillary to be the nominee for the last four years. But she really is losing her mind if she thinks the "elitist" argument is going to fly....has America forgotten the carpetbagger went from the White House to the Senate from. . .New York instead of going home to Arkansas?
Belinda
· 1 year ago
Just like Al Gore, Jimmy Carter is playing out his little political vendetta and refusing to endorse Obama until after Hillary has done her damage. I'm so sick of these died-the-wool DNC dinosaurs who are afraid to endorse Obama and instead sit back and play their juvenile king-making games. Carter and Gore failed when they had the chance to lead this nation and down to their core they are still unable to make effective decisions - how pitiful. http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04...
kipper
· 1 year ago
On the same blog, Hillary is a " white trash bitch" AND an " elitist" . Is this a great country or what...
kipper
· 1 year ago
Now, Belinda, she is bitter.....
BorninUSA
· 1 year ago
What happened to the great feeling all of us felt when Obama and Clinton were the two Democratic candidates and we were sure we had two good ones?
What happened after Hillary said at the debate that she was honored to be on the stage with Sen. Obama. What happened???
And the biggest news item of the year, Bush admits he authorized torture, and all the MSM can talk about is Obama's comment about angry people!
If Clinton gets the nomination, I don't want to vote for her but we must remember, the next POTUS will be putting justices on the Supreme Court and we can't let the repugs do that!
kevinbgoode
· 1 year ago
I am convinced that this is exactly what the two major parties want Americans to do - again. Hold our noses and vote against the worst candidate because if there is one thing the elitists can't stand is having the American people actually believing in their government beyond acceptance of the party's entitlement to hold power.
I'm increasingly getting the feeling that both the McCain and the Clinton campaigns are scared - and not because of Obama's positions. They are worried because neither one of them has any enthusiastic support. Their fundraising efforts have failed to generate much grassroots support - instead they are dependent upon big name contributions to stay afloat.
People don't open their pocketbooks for candidates who may receive their votes merely as a holding-the-nose exercise. And American presidential politics over the last three decades has generally produced more candidates with less enthusiasm, so that has become the norm - both Clinton and McCain generate little positive enthusiasm and both view the office as a party and/or private entitlement.
We already know that McCain became the Republican nominee because conservatives are against the wall - their disastrous agenda has been so damaging to this country that they can't mount a viable candidate spouting their ideological bullshit for even dogcatcher this year. And Clinton, who claimed the office belonged to her early in the campaign (just as conservatives told us for four years that she would be the nominee) is shocked and appalled that it has actually become a fight.
How dare the American people actually consider a candidate who might speak to them about their fears, their aspirations, and their condition? For the entitlement elitists, the government belongs to the corporations, the lobbyists, and their media will dictate to us who will be President - after all, we all saw early in the primary season that they had no intention of letting us know much about any other candidate but the "chosen."
Yep - I'll have to vote for the Democrat who wins the nomination. But those who hold-our-noses will also understand that we are not getting leadership supported by the American people - we are getting another in a long line of pseudo-dictators.
CitizenTwenty
· 1 year ago
What...This Obama fella had the effing arrogant audacity to suggest that some folks in America are pist off and bitter? Holy batshit, what a goddamn elitist thing to imply. That does it... I'm getting my check book and stratching a $2300.00 check to the Clinton campaign from my son and daughter's college fund. This silverspooned maniac Barak Obama must be stopped before he destroys our country and then the world with such irresponsible and morally reprehensible musings.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
yeah kipper. and don't forget, Obama is lucky to be a black man.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Clinton losing support among PA white women:
The Clinton campaign is aware of the danger, and last week it began dispatching friends of Clinton from New York, Washington and elsewhere to key Pennsylvania communities to have "living room chats" with women.
Unfortunately, Hillary's people got their focus groups mixed up, and the 'living room chats" involved gun cleaning and shots of Crown Royal.
kipper
· 1 year ago
Can Senator Obama win in Florida.........
jimfromthefoothills
· 1 year ago
Barack Obama will be the greatest US President in the history of this country. The Clinton's and Bush's need to go to jail.
nsr
· 1 year ago
if somone had told me ten years ago that sometime in the near future liberal, progressive blogs would be doing to the Clintons what the rightwing was doing to them
Oh poor Hillary the Victim.
I don't know which "liberal progressive blogs" you're referring to, that are talking about Monica and Vince Foster. I see a lot of disapproval for her lying and underhanded vote grabbing in the caucuses and building up the GOP candidate at the expense of her fellow democrat. If that's what you're talking about, she's the one acting like a rightwinger. Not the blogs.
Upland_Oddball
· 1 year ago
Hillary's latest plunge into the slimy side of the pool is doubly troubling and wrong to me. Not only is she definately helping McSame, the proof of that is his campaigns jumping on the Obama=elitist bandwagon, but what Obama said about the occasional pathology of small town American life when it is under extreme pressure was very on-the-mark , even if clumsily stated. Between the periodic outbursts of teenagers and adults who after having shot up their schools and wrokplaces, are discovered to have been gun-fanatics or or the sons of such fanatics, and the news of the activities of cults like Wareen Jeffs, how can we still deny that something crazy isn't unfderfoot? Tweedty-bird Matthews and his ilk may cry over Obama's supposed attack on small town church-life, but there is a coorellation between teenage chruch going and the decline of rational, scientific thought among young people today. The psuedoscience passed on by so many churches is why so many teenage girls actually believe that drinking bleach after unprotected sex will prevent pregnancy. That Obama does'nt pander to this madness is a good thing about his candidacy.
kipper
· 1 year ago
how are Ohio and Florida EVER moot in an election??? Even with President Bush at 28%, we are still a divided nation... This is the big ole elephant in the Obama Camp... again, and really, the last time I will flog this dead horse on here today, what state will Senator Obama take that Senator Clinton will not?
Ann_in_KC
· 1 year ago
Florida was an issue in 2000, Ohio was in 2004. This year it will be Colorado.
jimfromthefoothills
· 1 year ago
Anyone else here at Amerciablog have copies of Bill's books? I am especially pissed every time I walk by the bookshelf and there it looks at me, "Giving".. fuck you Clintons. It should be called "Greed". That fucking asshole Bill Clinton is asking families making less than $100k a year to give away their money to corrupt charities.
Bill and Hill? What did they do with the money they made off of being co-president? They established a private foundation... translation? They are keeping it.
Belinda
· 1 year ago
jimfromthegoothills: "Anyone else here at Amerciablog have copies of Bill's books?"
Funny you should mention it. My girlfriend and I *had* a copy of Hillary's "It Takes a Village (Idiot)" but it somehow found its way into our fireplace the other night. In 2005 we had been given Bill Clinton's "My Life" as a gift. By some strange coincidence, every time our new puppy has an accident inside the house, the pages from that book are the nearest thing to sop up the mess with, lol. At least we're putting it to good use.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
what state will Senator Obama take that Senator Clinton will not?
that question means nothing to people who are sick and tired of every single thing that's been going on in this country for the last seven plus years.
we want Obama. he will trounce McCain in every state. that's it. get used to it.
Belinda
· 1 year ago
The tip-off for me was early in 2007 when all the right-wing blogs started posting the most gratuitous compliments of Billary's campaign and started non-stop attacks on Obama. It was as clear as day back then that the GOP wanted Hillary to win the Dem nomination because she would be easier to defeat in November. Something the Hillbots never explain is why Limbaugh and Coulter endorsed their candidate and even far right blogs like Drudge seem to be virtually campaigning for her while trying to tear down Barack. The GOP made their decision to support Shillary a long time ago and that should be a big tip off that they would love to face her in November and are afraid of Obama and his popularity.
nsr
· 1 year ago
By the way, if someone had told me 10 years ago that Hillary Clinton would cooperate with "the vast right wing conspiracy" to attack another democrat, I'd have been astonished.
Ann_in_KC
· 1 year ago
I think Obama was really talking about people voting God, Guns, & Gays (whichever order it's supposed to be in) instead of the economic issues which they had given up on because politicians say one thing during elections and then continue to turn their back on them once in office. What's the Matter with Kansas? Which is all true. He was talking sort of short-hand to the SF fundraisers about this, ie, cling = the 3G's. These guys aren't ready to re-think what they've been doing since Reagan for this election.
kipper
· 1 year ago
<sigh>....Ill be over the moon happy to vote for Senator Obama in November. I live in a Blue, very blue state, which will go for which ever one of them wins.
An absolute majority is necessary to prevail in the presidential and the vice presidential elections, that is, half the total plus one electoral votes are required. With 538 Electors, a candidate must receive at least 270 votes to be elected to the office of President or Vice President.
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
The claim that Obama is elitist and out of touch compared to Hillary is absurd, laughable, pathetic. But then to claim she is more authentically American than Obama is sickening like it came out of one of those Southern senators playbooks. Is she trying to say that a Black man can't be as authentically American as a White woman? That's what it sounds like to me. If that is indeed what she is saying, she would embarrass even some Republicans ... unfortunately, not most of them, and even more tragically, not a certain Democrat.
What has happened to Hillary ... and Bill is tragic. These are two of the most capable people to come up for leadership of this great nation. Bill might have risen to be one of our most foreward thinking presidents, but instead he let his own blind ambition make decisions that should have been based on principle. Similarly, Hillary demonstrates the same lack of character and principle to an even more tragic degree and shows her lack of character even before achieving office.
Andrew A. Gill
· 1 year ago
You know, when you say 700 words per minute (that's a million words per day), you're bound to repeat some of them.
I remember The Big Lebowski broke ground when they used the f-bomb 2.7 times a minute.
Hills used the word American 4.5 times per minute.
Unless she's pulling a Steve Ballmer, that's just redundant.
kipper
· 1 year ago
Thank You, Ann. Great site.. but, doesn't it reinforce what I have been saying? And unlike others on here, I am not ANTI either Clinton OR Obama, I am ANTI GOP....
shanobama
· 1 year ago
What an elitist attitude Clinton shows here, that only 'whites' with a traditional 'American' background are really, really American. It sounds like the problem Kerry had with speaking 'French'. Any expansion of the smallness of American parochialism is now frowned upon.
So, regardless of our real American history, the melting pot, a democratic meritocracy that Obama symbolizes-what else could she be saying?
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Jumping in late kipper but you asked what states Obama looks to take that Clinton does not and the list is: Colorodo, Nevada, New Mexico, Iowa, Wisconsin and Oregon with possibilities of North Carolina, Virginia and even South Carolina. Clinton show to win West Virginia and possibly Washington with Obama losing. Ohio and Florida don't look all that good for democrats so we have to make pick ups elsewhere. This site helps a lot in gathering polls which is where I'm getting my info from: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/la...
Also try here for state to state match-ups. Not sure where they are getting their info from though: http://www.electoral-vote.com/
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Actually Washington looks to be for Obama now with New York for some reason not looking so good for Obama right now. Whatever the nominee, we can't think back to the maps of 2000 or 2004 since a lot has changed. A new map is definitely possible this year, especially with Obama.
360sound
· 1 year ago
I am not ANTI either Clinton OR Obama, I am ANTI GOP.... - Kipper _________________________________________________________ He he he.. that's a good one.
what state will Senator Obama take that Senator Clinton will not? -Kipper __________________________________________________________ You mentioned three specific groups that have a finite amount of votes that Obama may not get. What you neglect to mention is the intangible but significantly larger chunk of the general population that may have voted for her, but are sickened by the disgusting campaign that she has waged. Therein lies the difference.
On the same blog, Hillary is a " white trash bitch" AND an " elitist" - Kipper _________________________________________________________________ Well, you've got to hand it to her on that one.. not many people can be all things, yet she somehow pulls that one off..
Mikki --SE Pennsylvania
· 1 year ago
FIrst things first! Hillary is a whore, a political whore who has and will do whatever it takes to try and steal the nomination. Air America should be ashamed for what it did to Randi Rhodes, and it might as well slip into obscurity, well deserved for all the good it hasn't done. Hillary is also at least the ninth woman who has run for president, clearly not as unique as she would have people believe. She is a racist, as is her husband, whoremonger Bill, and like him, she is most assuredly a liar. The Bosnia fabriucation and the sad health care story being just two recent examples. She is getting more and more despicable day by day, clutching at anything Obama might say in her pathetically desperate attempt to hold on to hopes to win the nomination. Clearly she is offering only same old same old Clinton political machine hogwash. Does Mrs. Richbitch really think the working poor in any state will buy her claims to help? She may have pulled the wool over the eyes of Pennsylvania's wrong-headed governor Rendell, and the newly elected mayor Nutter of Philadelphia, but I think the voters of my state are sharper than she gives them credit for being. I would not be surprised if their support has been traded for promises of Federal jobs were she to win. Again I wish to point out people are not against Hillary because she is a woman, they are against her because of the sort of woman she is. She is a walking disaster, even worse when you realize she is dragging the additional cargo of whoremonger Bill on her back. After the cosmic disaster of the criminal incompetence and sheer idiocy of the Bush misadministration, Americans would have to be crazy to vote in either this pair of shysters, or for that matter Insane McCain, regardless of whom he chooses as his VP. Pennsylvanians and everyone else who still has to vote: VOTE FOR OBAMA, the only sane choice for America!
Independent White Male Senior Citizen PA resident
Smarmy
· 1 year ago
Just go away, Hillary. Go permanently away.
Chris From Maine
· 1 year ago
right winger Hillary Clinton.
that is a very Bush/Rovian strategy. And its Hillary's main tactic now.
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
That was some clip. I heard her say she grew up in a "working class family" which is downright BS. Her "neighborhood" was an affluent suburb of Chicago and I believe her step father was a doctor. Now in the 60's believe me, neither her neighborhood nor was her family "working class". And if that weren't enough, she is an ivy league snot.
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"Reverend Wright was a Muslim"-Larry Johnson
Barack Obama is our next president.
Some friends came by last night, a gay couple. They were taken aback by my "Mama for Obama" bumper sticker. Shocked that I wasn't a Hillary supporter.
It saddens me to see otherwise delightful, intelligent people still stuck on the "Bill and Hill are pro-gay, always have been always will be, that's all I need to know about politics" train.
Talk about still living in 1992.
Yes, Bill was a breath of fresh air after 41's Presidency. But about 5 days after he got into office, I had a sick feeling in my stomach. And everything spiraled downward after that.
Bill and Hill have been shinin' us Boomers on, folks, they've been shinin' us on.
We don't need another 4-8 years of the Bush/Clinton family legacy rule.
Did you take the time to clue them in? Upon what are they basing their absurd belief? Bill and Hillary Clinton spearheaded the DADT military regulation which bans all openly gay soldiers and requires their discharge and sometimes even court-marshall. The Clintons also rushed through DOMA and enshrined anti-gay descrimination into federal regulations. There are many more examples and not least of which thousands of state level gay employees were fired during the Clinton Administration because of the anti-gay backlash they created. Now I rarely agree with Log Cabin Republicans on issues of policy. But their website has some of the best documentation of how Bill and Hillary Clinton set back civil rigths for glbt people for decades. The damage they did was devastating to many glbt families.
"A firm that has donated to the president's charity is accused of collaborating with the government in its crackdown on Tibetan activists. Hillary Clinton has spoken out against China's actions."
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-clin...
it's not just this blog
it's not just people who have an irrational hatred of all things Clinton
it's not woman-haters
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-smiley/here-...
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/LawPolitics/Story?...
President Bush admits, on the record, to authorizing torture. Nothing happens.
What happened after Hillary said at the debate that she was honored to be on the stage with Sen. Obama. What happened???
And the biggest news item of the year, Bush admits he authorized torture, and all the MSM can talk about is Obama's comment about angry people!
If Clinton gets the nomination, I don't want to vote for her but we must remember, the next POTUS will be putting justices on the Supreme Court and we can't let the repugs do that!
I'm increasingly getting the feeling that both the McCain and the Clinton campaigns are scared - and not because of Obama's positions. They are worried because neither one of them has any enthusiastic support. Their fundraising efforts have failed to generate much grassroots support - instead they are dependent upon big name contributions to stay afloat.
People don't open their pocketbooks for candidates who may receive their votes merely as a holding-the-nose exercise. And American presidential politics over the last three decades has generally produced more candidates with less enthusiasm, so that has become the norm - both Clinton and McCain generate little positive enthusiasm and both view the office as a party and/or private entitlement.
We already know that McCain became the Republican nominee because conservatives are against the wall - their disastrous agenda has been so damaging to this country that they can't mount a viable candidate spouting their ideological bullshit for even dogcatcher this year. And Clinton, who claimed the office belonged to her early in the campaign (just as conservatives told us for four years that she would be the nominee) is shocked and appalled that it has actually become a fight.
How dare the American people actually consider a candidate who might speak to them about their fears, their aspirations, and their condition? For the entitlement elitists, the government belongs to the corporations, the lobbyists, and their media will dictate to us who will be President - after all, we all saw early in the primary season that they had no intention of letting us know much about any other candidate but the "chosen."
Yep - I'll have to vote for the Democrat who wins the nomination. But those who hold-our-noses will also understand that we are not getting leadership supported by the American people - we are getting another in a long line of pseudo-dictators.
Holy batshit, what a goddamn elitist thing to imply.
That does it...
I'm getting my check book and stratching a $2300.00 check to the Clinton campaign from my son and daughter's college fund.
This silverspooned maniac Barak Obama must be stopped before he destroys our country and then the world with such irresponsible and morally reprehensible musings.
and don't forget, Obama is lucky to be a black man.
The Clinton campaign is aware of the danger, and last week it began dispatching friends of Clinton from New York, Washington and elsewhere to key Pennsylvania communities to have "living room chats" with women.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/13/hillar...
Unfortunately, Hillary's people got their focus groups mixed up, and the 'living room chats" involved gun cleaning and shots of Crown Royal.
Oh poor Hillary the Victim.
I don't know which "liberal progressive blogs" you're referring to, that are talking about Monica and Vince Foster. I see a lot of disapproval for her lying and underhanded vote grabbing in the caucuses and building up the GOP candidate at the expense of her fellow democrat. If that's what you're talking about, she's the one acting like a rightwinger. Not the blogs.
Bill and Hill? What did they do with the money they made off of being co-president? They established a private foundation... translation? They are keeping it.
Funny you should mention it. My girlfriend and I *had* a copy of Hillary's "It Takes a Village (Idiot)" but it somehow found its way into our fireplace the other night. In 2005 we had been given Bill Clinton's "My Life" as a gift. By some strange coincidence, every time our new puppy has an accident inside the house, the pages from that book are the nearest thing to sop up the mess with, lol. At least we're putting it to good use.
that question means nothing to people who are sick and tired of every single thing that's been going on in this country for the last seven plus years.
we want Obama. he will trounce McCain in every state. that's it. get used to it.
Ohio - 20 votes
Colorado - 9 votes
What has happened to Hillary ... and Bill is tragic. These are two of the most capable people to come up for leadership of this great nation. Bill might have risen to be one of our most foreward thinking presidents, but instead he let his own blind ambition make decisions that should have been based on principle. Similarly, Hillary demonstrates the same lack of character and principle to an even more tragic degree and shows her lack of character even before achieving office.
I remember The Big Lebowski broke ground when they used the f-bomb 2.7 times a minute.
Hills used the word American 4.5 times per minute.
Unless she's pulling a Steve Ballmer, that's just redundant.
So, regardless of our real American history, the melting pot, a democratic meritocracy that Obama symbolizes-what else could she be saying?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/la...
Also try here for state to state match-ups. Not sure where they are getting their info from though:
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
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He he he.. that's a good one.
what state will Senator Obama take that Senator Clinton will not? -Kipper
__________________________________________________________
You mentioned three specific groups that have a finite amount of votes that Obama may not get. What you neglect to mention is the intangible but significantly larger chunk of the general population that may have voted for her, but are sickened by the disgusting campaign that she has waged. Therein lies the difference.
On the same blog, Hillary is a " white trash bitch" AND an " elitist" - Kipper
_________________________________________________________________
Well, you've got to hand it to her on that one.. not many people can be all things, yet she somehow pulls that one off..
Hillary is also at least the ninth woman who has run for president, clearly not as unique as she would have people believe. She is a racist, as is her husband, whoremonger Bill, and like him, she is most assuredly a liar. The Bosnia fabriucation and the sad health care story being just two recent examples. She is getting more and more despicable day by day, clutching at anything Obama might say in her pathetically desperate attempt to hold on to hopes to win the nomination. Clearly she is offering only same old same old Clinton political machine hogwash. Does Mrs. Richbitch really think the working poor in any state will buy her claims to help? She may have pulled the wool over the eyes of Pennsylvania's wrong-headed governor Rendell, and the newly elected mayor Nutter of Philadelphia, but I think the voters of my state are sharper than she gives them credit for being. I would not be surprised if their support has been traded for promises of Federal jobs were she to win.
Again I wish to point out people are not against Hillary because she is a woman, they are against her because of the sort of woman she is. She is a walking disaster, even worse when you realize she is dragging the additional cargo of whoremonger Bill on her back. After the cosmic disaster of the criminal incompetence and sheer idiocy of the Bush misadministration, Americans would have to be crazy to vote in either this pair of shysters, or for that matter Insane McCain, regardless of whom he chooses as his VP.
Pennsylvanians and everyone else who still has to vote:
VOTE FOR OBAMA, the only sane choice for America!
Independent White Male Senior Citizen PA resident
that is a very Bush/Rovian strategy. And its Hillary's main tactic now.
I think this whole mess is dividing the party.
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