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AMERICAblog: Hillary's ties to shadowy religious group raising eyebrows

  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    There really WERE snipers in Bosnia. It's just that God was protecting them better than expected.

    See?
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Adolph Hitler was said to be the reincarnation of The Buddha by Nazi insiders.

    THAT was impressive.
  • Chris From Maine · 1 year ago
    Queen Hillary.. Defender of the Faith.

    seriously.. this sounds like a group Mike Huckabee would be in, not Hillary Clinton..

    what is it about Hillary and "secretive" stuff?
  • GrantinHouston · 1 year ago
    The Dominionist who wish to impose a theocracy on our nation are much more a concern to me than anything I have heard or read from Rev. Wright. They are actually in league with the likes of Pat Robertson, John Hagee and Rod Parsley.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    As she gets closer to the dirt and maggots that await us all, she is simply starting to pay the premiums on her afterlife insurance policy.
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    What a bunch of hypocrites. Yesterday she looked so self righteous, when she said she would not have Wright as her pasture, and that she would have walked away years ago!!! The Clintons make us feel like we are the twilight zone.
  • bumpkis · 1 year ago
    Glad to see this aspect of Hillary is finally being discussed here. Her ties to this group have been known for a very long time.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Josh Green had a small piece on The Fellowship on The Atlantic's web page too.

    http://thecurrent.theatlantic.com/archives/2008...
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    Imagine that...Senator Clinton caught in another lie. Keep digging Hillary, at this rate, you'll be in China in time for the Olympics. :-)
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/26/20287/2...
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    seriously.. this sounds like a group Mike Huckabee would be in, not Hillary Clinton..

    what is it about Hillary and "secretive" stuff?

    ----

    Huckabee actually slightly less freaky than Hillary.
  • Rustyzipper · 1 year ago
    This has got to be a Joke..... this gets better every day.

    think I call it .. "lord of the wingnuts"
  • Sarah B. · 1 year ago
    Perhaps....

    Hillary's intimate knowledge of the "vast right-wing conspiracy" that was out to destroy her husband was derived from the fact that she was actually one of them...a part of the cabal!

    Appropriate background music as follows:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y
    :)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    A 2002 LA Times article on Hillary's cult.

    http://www.toobeautiful.org/lat_020927.html
  • Rustyzipper · 1 year ago
    nigel_elliott


    forget China, and this rate she will surpass China and hit HerAnus.
  • AngelaChanning · 1 year ago
    Okay, I was going to ask the Gentle Americablog Readers to come up with the craziest thing ever that Hillary or Bill would do before the PA primary. I was going to offer a prize for the best entry or if it came true. My guess was going to be something like Hillary speaking jive at a rally or something. LOL. So, I read this post and now I realize there is no need for a friendly competition like this. This is some crazy shiat. I hope this was not one of those Onion stories that everyone believed. LOL. Thank you for listening.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    It's a shame the way Hillary is willing to Katrina Obama.
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    Scientology. Amway. The Fellowship. It's all veyr odd.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Another item on Hillary's Cult, including a link to an interview with a guy who penetrated Hillary's Cult:

    http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/03/2...
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Guess MSNBC did a piece on Hillary's Cult today.

    http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_steve_b...
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Alternet on Hillary's Cult

    http://www.alternet.org/election08/80248/
  • sherifffruitfly · 1 year ago
    Why can't you believe it? Obama's pastor is a scary angry black man. In America that makes all the difference. Duh.

    Oh - that's right - we don't believe in racism.

    Then it would be mysterious indeed.
  • ewastud · 1 year ago
    I have been aware of Hillary's close association with the Fellowship for several years at least, as has my journalist sister. A good many other Washington politicians -- more Republicans than Dems, but some of both -- are closely associated with the Fellowship. It is also the organization behind the famous Washington "prayer breakfasts," and even is connected to state and locally held "prayer breakfasts." Some Washington pols have enjoyed below market rate rent lodging at the Fellowship's several premises in the D.C. area.

    The investigative journalist Jeff Sharlet is the best authority on the group to my knowledge having spent some time semi-undercover to find out what it is all about and what might be their leaders' agenda. He was interviewed recently on the Canadian radio program on CBC, As It Happens, about Hillary and religion:

    http://www.cbc.ca/radioshows/AS_IT_HAPPENS/2008...

    Give it a listen. It was a very informative (but not sensationalist) interview.

    Also, another investigative journalist, Wayne Madsen, has written an article alluding to darker connections of this secretive organization he calls the Christian mafia:

    http://www.insider-magazine.com/ChristianMafia.htm
  • bumpkis · 1 year ago
    Note the date of this article...

    http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20070...

    It should also be noted that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is a staunch supporter of the Fellowship and a frequent visitor to its Arlington compound, known as "The Cedars."
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    Why did it take so long for this to finally come out? Why didn't it come out when the Wright issue did?
    Hillary is really damaging the party, and spoiling it's chances for November, with her filthy politics, and corrupt ways.
    At the moment her camp has decided to play the victim card, and blames Obama for all her problems. I suppose they have memory problems too.
    Perhaps they have forgotten, that they opened Pandora's box, while flinging
    the kitchen sink at Obama. She is now paying for her attacks in the polls, while at the same time bringing Obama down too. She is a selfish monster.
    She is DOWN in the polls, her negatives are higher than her positives, she is least qualified to unite the country, she has lost more states, behind in the delegate count, and behind in the popular vote, and yet, she keeps attacking the front runner, and desperately trying to steal the nomination, by getting even her financial backers to threaten Pelosi.

    Heckava job HIllary, we wish you would just get the hell out of this race,
    and give the Democrats a chance to win in November. Take your ambitious, greedy, husband with you, when you leave. He is a disgrace to the democratic party, so are you.
  • sbhdawn · 1 year ago
    Sage, I agree. I am so sick of seeing Bill Clinton's long crooked finger pointing at people, while he tells more lies, and the biggest one is that eather of them care about the country. Anyone with any sense at all, can see they are just all out for themselves, and are making fools out of their followers.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Hillary deep down inside does not believe in anything but acquiring power. It is a distinct possibility if not an absolute reality that Hillary's campaign is pushing this story to portray this Machiavellian nihilist as someone that really has faith. Funny how this come out as Hillary is the once whispers that Hillary is nihilist become shouts.
  • bumpkis · 1 year ago
    ." He didn't know what it was until Clinton got to the Senate and joined him in supporting DeLay's Day of Reconciliation resolution following the 2000 election,

    That's quite a sense of humor you have.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    VENKMAN
    Well, the name Zuul refers to a demi-god
    worshipped around 6000 B.C. by the ...
    What's that say?

    DANA
    Hittites, the Mesopotamians and the
    Sumerians. "Zuul was the Minion of Gozer."

    VENKMAN
    "Gozer" -- he was very big in the Sumerian
    religion. One of their gods.

    DANA
    What's he doing in my refrigerator?


    --Ghostbusters
    http://www.awesomefilm.com/script/Ghostbusters.txt
  • burro · 1 year ago
    When Googling Doug Coe I also found an interesting and unexpected article written by a Presbyterian Pastor named Ben Daniel from the Foothill Presbyterian Church in San Jose, CA. Rev. Daniel does occasional commentaries on KQED radio in S.F. and I didn't realize how tuned in he is to the Fellowship Foundation. We exchanged e-mails and he told me that he wrote the following piece for Beliefnet.com under contract but it was never used.

    http://www.foothillpc.org/pastor_writings/Dysfu...
  • Chris From Maine · 1 year ago
    and dont forget John McCain attending a fundraiser held by Lord Rothschild!
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Dave_of_the_Jungle 4 minutes ago

    A redo:

    There really WERE snipers in Bosnia. It's just that only God and members of the Fellowship could see them. They do not show up on film.
  • sbhdawn · 1 year ago
    to tbhull,
    have you noticed how quickly this lie of Hillary's is already going away, while they all keep bringing up the Rev. issue; which as i said before, is probably right about how God thinks of this nation, when he taught in the bible to love your enemies, and not to kill them( in wars,) so in that way the Rev. was right, do we think God is happy with America for killing so many people?
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    I am not much of a God person and if I were I would not have an idea what God thinks about America's action.

    Being a mere mortal I think America made a large mistake in Iraq that has cost our country and will continue to cost our country.
  • kevinbgoode · 1 year ago
    I might be reaching here, but surely the Rev. Moon has his tentacles around some of these people.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    OT

    I just read this article on Yahoo news. I have to share the last few lines of the article. I wanted to scream, the Clintons have helped build the Democratic party? I guess they must feel since they helped build the party they OWN it.
    ---------

    "Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said Clinton had made the case superdelegates should exercise independent judgment about who would be the best for the party and the country.

    "Few have done more to build the Democratic Party than Bill and Hillary Clinton. The last thing they need is a lecture from the Obama campaign," he said."
  • kevinj48 · 1 year ago
    Yeah, when I read about this on Yahoo, I felt sick to my stomache. The Obama campaign needs to hit Hilary but good on this.
  • sbhdawn · 1 year ago
    Kevinj48,
    Whenever Barack tries to answer a charge or comment on one of her lies, people just get hysterical saying he is going negative again!! They start the accusations, and then when he answers, they accuse him of starting trouble again. Some talking head, think it was Grinnin Lou Dobbs, said they could not for the life of him figure out why Barack will not stop tallking about the Rev. when Hillary cleverly brought it up again yesterday, and today Barack was just responding trying to put the stupid issue to rest!! That is the injustice.
  • GrantinHouston · 1 year ago
    I have been a registered Democrat since 1965 before I ever heard of BIll and Hillary (the latter was still a Goldwater girl at the time). I always thought our party was built by Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson.

    I guess since the Clintons BUILT the party, they have a right to tear it down in their sick little Machiavellian minds.
  • GrantinHouston · 1 year ago
    What is the role of Chelsea Clinton? Is she above hardball questions because she is a "child" of the Clintons? She is nearly 30 years old, has taken leave of her 6 figure income job at a hedge fund to work full time for her parents YET she is "off limits" to the press and I guess "off limits" to any but softball questions from others. When it comes to Monica Lewinsky who nearly brought down the presidency, for Chelsea, it's "Dont' ask, don't tell!"

    In this video, after she "puts down" a student at Butler University for having the audacity to ask her if the Monica affair hurt her mother's credibility , she belittles the student by saying in the the 70 universites where she has appeared so far, NO ONE has ever asked her that question, then she tells him it is "none of his business" followed by Chelsea giving that cocky "turkey neck" bobbing of the head like her Mother and George W. Bush do when they revel thinking they have scored a point.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCAO6bZa31o

    Should Chelsea be getting a pass? Michelle Obama sure as hell gets no softball questions.

    The SF Gate is also asking "why" the kid gloves with Chelsea?

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/deta...
  • Thurston Howell the Third · 1 year ago
    Is this the cult that believes AIDS and the drug trade are the result of a conspiracy by the White Man?
  • GrantinHouston · 1 year ago
    There are also many white people who believe our government has traded weapons to our allies in Columbia in exchange for cocaine which was then smuggled into the Mena, Arkansas airport when Bill Clinton was governor. With the flood of coke on the streets, some have wondered if our streets weren't being used to market it mostly to our poorest and most vulnerable. Rev. Wright set up drug addiction programs and prison ministries as part of his many social programs on the South Side of Chicago. He might be in a good position to know where this flood of cocaine came from.

    Since we don't know how exactly the HIV virus came about and how it got spread, there is still room for many conspiracies. One is that the old imperial powers might like to reduce black Africans to a minority in order to reap the vast gold, diamond, and oil resources still found under that continent. Remember the West has pretty much stood by and watched genocide in Rwanda and other places, and starvation and AIDS kill many millions more in such places as Darfur. The West would never allow such death in majority white nations.

    The U.S. government watched nearly 399 black men die of syphilis at Tuskegee, Alabama without giving them any medical treatment as they wanted to "study" the disease. So if our government will use black men as guinea pigs leading to their deaths in most cases, it leads to conspiracy theories that maybe our germ warfare labs at Ft. Detrick, MD might have created the HIV virus that either was accidentally or intentionally released among the black and gay populations by racist or bigoted persons.

    I don't agree with these conspiracies but I can see how those used to oppression might.
  • fostert · 1 year ago
    Compared to the concept that there is some kind of Creator God, is this really so strange? Aren't people rejecting rationality as soon as they walk into a church? This stuff is pretty strange, but it's really all pretty strange. We always accept that our leaders fully believe in what cannot be proved. And we simply will not accept a leader who only believes in what is scientifically provable. We pretty much demand this kind of thing, and we have always received what we asked for.
  • tofubo · 1 year ago
  • Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago
    Clearly Hillary's connection to the Family or the Fellowship are much more scary than Pastor Wright's fiery remarks.
    We need some serious investigation of this secretive cult and we need answers from Hillary NOW!
  • Pobo · 1 year ago
    I used to be married to the nephew of a very powerful Congressman (he is no longer in office). He and his children were up to their eyeballs with this group; his daughter married Doug Coe's son, who died of cancer. They treated her like dirt - her job was to have the kid and they wanted to take the baby from her and raise it themselves (it was a girl, which helped. If it had been a boy, forget it!). The wedding was scary, we joked about the "mafia for God", didn't realize that's what it was really based on! The people were very smug in their belief that God had chosen them, they were special compared to the rest of us. This group needs to be exposed.
  • Measured_Response · 1 year ago
    An interesting read John, and not remotely close to a cult feeling. If one reads the article in full , they should come away with a better appreciation of Hillary Clinton and her faith. I'm not big on religion but I found it uplifting that a prayer group that Hillary attends has made a bridge of sorts between some of those on the far right with those on the far left, to find the middle ground, with faith being the common denominator. If it takes members of a prayer group to bring both political parties to some common rational that helps all Americans then I'm not one to dismiss it as a cult by any means.

    This passage from the article might help explain some of what I have said:

    "Senator Brownback understood the temptation. He used to hate Clinton so much, he told us, that the hate hurt. Then came the Clintons' 1994 National Prayer Breakfast appearance with Mother Teresa, who upbraided the couple for their pro-choice views. Bill made no attempt to conceal his anger, but Hillary took it and smiled. Brownback remembers thinking, "Now, there's gotta be a great lesson here." He didn't know what it was until Clinton got to the Senate and joined him in supporting DeLay's Day of Reconciliation resolution following the 2000 election, a proposal described by its backers as a call to "pray for our leaders." Now, Brownback considers Clinton "a beautiful child of the living God."

    Strange thing religion is, it can divide us and it can bring us together.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Hillary's faith is a fucking farce and this story is more than likely being pushed by her campaign as is your uplifting comfort with her "association" with the Fellowship.
  • kevinbgoode · 1 year ago
    And it can permanently isolate those of us who don't profess some particular "official" religious belief. I'm weary of politicians hawking "religion" at free Americans who are supposed to have some choice in their own spiritual lives - and then turn around and pronounce that, despite our Constitution, the entire nation has to know about each time some politician "prays," and in fact, their stated requirement that any elected official MUST pray.
  • Gary SF · 1 year ago
    It's about time that the press, that supposedly "loves" Obama, got around to this story.