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This is a terrible idea on so many levels it's mind-boggling. Adding HRC to the ticket obliterates Obama's message of change. Her closet (and Bill's, of course) contains many, many skeletons we've yet to see. Her negatives are sky-high and her presence on the ticket would energize the rightwing base. She brings no geographic help to the ticket. NY will go Democratic with or without her.
Obama is in a tough spot, but his supporters need to start gently reminding all Democratic voters --whether they backed Obama, Clinton, Edwards, etc.-- of what is at stake if we elect another conservative Republican as president. Despite all the harsh rhetoric among Clinton backers about voting for McCain, staying home, etc., they need to know what America will look like at the end of McCain's first term, particularly regarding the Supreme Court, the War in Iraq, foreign policy, American fiscal policy, etc.
Exercising your pique because HRC lost the nomination will truly be a case of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
This bullshit about "counting every vote" needs to be addressed, though. These were not fair and equal elections in Michigan and Florida, and Hillary shouldn't be allowed to get away with pretending that they were. The party interfered because of the change in dates. Obama was encouraged not to participate, and to imply that he should now be penalized for trying to follow the wishes of the party is galling. I'm sick of this sociopath - she's making women look bad, she doesn't give a damn about helping us get our country back, and she's putting her ego ahead of our Constitution. We're trying to stop torture and restore America's standing in the world. We're trying to end the war she authorized (like a coward.) We're trying to save the United States from economic and environmental ruin. She's made it very clear that her position means more to her than any of those things, and that kind of selfishness should leave Washington with its poster boy Bush. I'll be damned if I support its return to the Oval office in any postition. There are finer candidates to be chosen - Jim Webb, Gov. Sebelius, Wes Clark, John Edwards, and many more. To consider her under these conditions is madness.
http://freewayblogger.blogspot.com/2008/05/san-...
And I believe he will.
"dream ticket" - only if you're takin' sustiva.
Well, yeah. EVERYTHING in the universe is all about Hillary.
cf. "self-referential"
How did your relationship with the Bush family develop, especially after they attempted to castrate you for the Monica deal?
Bill give us details of all your foreign trips, who you met with, who you travelled with?
Hillary, explain your stand on NAFTA and how you now claim you were against it.
Bill, why did you push through the NAFTA legisltation.
Please explain all your various incomes over the past 8 years
Produce the receipts and expenditures for the Clinton Foundation since inception.
Oh, yeah there is lots to learn. If she is on the ticket don't think for a minute that Rove does not have a ton of dirt on the Clintons.
Let's take our chances, and let destiny decide the outcome.
she blew it a million times.
and she'd re-vitalize all the depressed GOPers who have nothing in McBush.
The party's still better off without a Clinton on the ticket.
What's more cult-like:
To support a candidate most people think is a decent guy, or to support a candidate that half the country hates?
Latest aggregation of state-by-state polls.
http://openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=5956#7...
Obama has almost as many "solid" states as McCain has solid states and leaners.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
No kidding! This is working to her advantage. If she can't steal the nomination from him, she'll do everything in her power to keep Obama from winning. Anyone who softens Hillary and her 'motives' at this point in the game, needs mental evaluation. Superdelegates need to step up to the plate immediately. This has gone on for too long. Do your jobs, supers.
Pardon-gate!
I think we should go through very carefully and methodically the connections Billary have with any and all persons pardoned by Bubba during his last few days in office.
Paula Jones.
And the two known women Bubba forced himself upon.
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I missed that one.
More lesbian rumors?
Down here in jesusland they think this woman is satan's bride. She cannot win dog catcher. Someone please tell these people to go home now.
Just months after the Kazakh pact was finalized, Mr. Clinton’s charitable foundation received its own windfall: a $31.3 million donation from Mr. Giustra that had remained a secret until he acknowledged it last month. The gift, combined with Mr. Giustra’s more recent and public pledge to give the William J. Clinton Foundation an additional $100 million, secured Mr. Giustra a place in Mr. Clinton’s inner circle, an exclusive club of wealthy entrepreneurs in which friendship with the former president has its privileges.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/3...
This is all dependent on the assumption that she doesn't go Joe Lieberman on us once on the Court....On second thought, maybe this is not such a hot idea.
But, it needs to be disclosed willingly and it all needs to be an open book.
Watch this little drumbeat today to fall off rather quickly.
I'd think Obama would do that. He is very clever and good at turning the tables.
1) Hillary's top fundraiser orders Obama to pick Hillary as his Veep or same fundraiser will refuse to do the same horseshit job of fundraising for Obama that he did for Clinton. Oh, yeah, Barack's shaking in his boots over this. Shaking with laughter, that is. Between this and McCain's pre-senile freakout the other day, it's hard to see what's more bizarre.
2) Take a bow, Al Giordano. After being mocked by pro-Hillary people like BTD/Armando over at TalkLeft for stating that Hillary was being goaded by Bill to muscle her way onto the ticket, Hillary's own top financier comes out and pulls this stunt. Al Giordano is now vindicated.
3) Barack Obama will not be pressured into doing something that stupid. This is why the news of his VP selection committee was leaked the other day -- to counter the Clinton-camp-leaked "news" putting her on the ticket. (If she was already the running mate, Obama would have no need for a VP selection committee.)
4) Obama knows as well as anyone that Hillary won't bring him anything he doesn't already have -- anything besides high negatives, that is. He's already outpolling McCain in Florida, which was one of the states the Clintonites said they can get that he can't. And he's beating McCain in Virginia, too, per SUSA (http://phoenixwoman.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/su...) -- and nationally, per Rasmussen. (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/23/132239/...)
5) Look at the superbly patient and professional way Obama and his people have run their campaign so far. They had a couple glitches, but overcame them, and had the flexibility as well as the muscle to handle anything that came their way. Obama is the ultimate Organizer: In terms of skill set if not exact ideology, he is the true heir to fellow Chicagoan Saul Alinsky, and precisely because he's not an Alinsky clone or copyist, but strove to improve upon Alinsky's model.
Jim Johnson, Former Fannie Mae CEO, To Begin VP Search for Obama
Does this guy need Hillary's free advice?
As interesting as that could be . . . it would only ruin Obama by association.
In Kentucky's primary, like most preceeding it, 20%+ of the Republican vote went to candidates other than McStain...Add this fact to the party-switchers and stay-at-homes to really kill the corporate media election drama buzz.
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http://static.cnhi.zope.net/flashpromo/thetimes...
Surely he can just smile upon the crowds and take whatever he wants...
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