AMERICAblog: Hillary's top NC surrogate bashes gays in front of her this morning, she does nothing
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
gawd, let this primary from hell end...
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
"Busboy,"
"OK, I've been living under a rock." =============================== No, YOU? Busboy? Living under a rock? Not you, Busboy!
I think your -806 rating would prove you're the last person to realize that very important point!
PeteWa
· 1 year ago
Living under a rock is a massive understatement.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
Senator Chuck Shumer finally mentioned the REAL REASON gas prices are so high.
All the Corporate Propaganda Talking Heads were all talking around the real issue this morning, and Schumer FINALLY nailed it down. Of course, the Corporate Propaganda Media doesn't' want to talk about the falling American dollar and how that is affecting fuel prices. NOOOoooooo! They immediately changed subjects as soon as the REAL reason was mentioned.
It isn't ANWAR, it isn't ethanol and it sure as hell ain't oil refineries, folks! ITS THE AMERICAN DOLLAR AND HOW BU$HCO HAS TRASHED IT that is costing you an arm and leg at the fuel pump and grocery store.
rp0402
· 1 year ago
By the way, I am a gay guy, that loves Starbucks and ABERCROMBIE and FITCH, especially those yummy catalogs...
Pansy for Hillary, in Massachusetts the gayest state in the nation.
bordo
· 1 year ago
Pansy is a perjorative word, but I don't think it's limited to being a slur on homosexuals. Rather, it's a weakling, an effieminate who won't fight, a scaredy cat who runs away from danger, etc. The word choice here is meant to underline Obama's so-called elitism because we all know what a down-to-earth, shot-and-a-beer kind of lady Sen. Clinton is, right? (Keerist, drinking a shot of Crown Royal is about as blue collar as sipping a single malt Scotch. Let `er throw down a shot of Old Grandad 101 Proof and wash it down with an Old Style and maybe it passes the smell test.)
She's despicable. Predictabe and despicable.
ChicagoKid
· 1 year ago
what are the SHRILL-bot gays that bashed Obama in PA going to say to defend the witch?!
michaelt
· 1 year ago
i don't think pansy equals fag. pansy just means soft.
i've known some fags that weren't pansy's and vice versa.
ChicagoKid
· 1 year ago
ask any gay guy if pansy is a anit-gay slam. Of course it is!
from wikipedia.
The word "pansy" has indicated an effeminate male since Elizabethan times and its usage as a disparaging term for a man or boy who is effeminate (as well as for an avowedly homosexual man) is still used.
Smarmy
· 1 year ago
Two blueberry pies are needed at once to combat this situation. One over her head the other directly in her fat, fugly face!
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
The use of "pansy" in the manner by a card carrying member of the "hetero" crowd is unacceptable. Period.
I would be careful trying to make Clinton too masculine, though. She already has those lesbian rumors flying about. Easley saying she makes Balboa look like a pansy does nothing to quell the Clinton lesbian thing. Doesn't soften her image, much.
Mikki --SE Pennsylvania
· 1 year ago
You hit the nail on the head coboyneok. UNACCEPTABLE. I wouldn't worry too much about making Hil "too masculine." She is surely NOT the "lipstick" side of any lesbian duo. She's the pickup side. Look at those ugly pantssuits, the beer and shots whe was busy downing with all the racist ignorant working-man types in PA, trying to prove herself "one of the boys!" And talk about racist, sexist, and ignorant, NC is a hotbed of it. It hust that the state has lots of blacks who are NOT going to put up with Hil's garbage.
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
Hillary is GOP, like her Republican idol, Governor Arnie of California. Arnie called the males in the state assembly "girlie men".
I tested your claim Disqus gives you a minus 8 every time someone gives you a negative rating, so I gave you a neg rating. Guess what? It didn't change your score. Disqus probably waits until you get more than one and hands it to ya all at once, therefore you actually ARE getting that kind of rating. Stop thinking you are so "special" that Disqus might target you.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
too bad Easley didn't say Clinton makes Rocky Balboa look like a pussy...
Imus says both Hillary and Obama are pussies...
don't you just love this country?
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
John
You get outraged over the use of this word? I am straight and never made that same association. To me the word pansy just means weak or more like a girl than anything else. To make the leap to homosexual from being weak, I don't know how that comes about.
johnosahon
· 1 year ago
for all this people saying pansy does not necessary mean gay, so is the word "FAIRY" but we all know they are referring to gays when they are used.
cmpnwtr
· 1 year ago
You're right, John. Any male knows from locker room language that being called a pansy, or a pussy, means you're gay. To be avoided at all costs, and it means there's open season on you. But isn't this entirely Clintonesque. Stab your friends in the back for political expediency, then justify it, because it was for political expediency. And in the culture of NC, isn't this red meat?? By now we should all know this is the character of HRC. "I'm in it to win." That was her announcement when she began her candidacy. Whether it's sniper fire, whether it's race, "elitism", she'll do whatever it takes. Her George Wallace wedge strategy, and her neocon comments about nuking Iran are all part of the same character. She's become unelectable to me. What about you, John?
Daniel73
· 1 year ago
Talk about say anything to get elected, John you take the cake unless I can't say that because gays like cake so I must be calling you a pansy which in your world is slang for fag. HAHAHAHA John you sound so absolutlely bonkers trying to get the Rev Wright storm out of peoples minds. It ain't working Obama is still losing.
johnosahon
· 1 year ago
TruthToPower, that question is as old as mankind.
have you forgotten that 30% of people still support bush?
have you forgotten that obama and the witch are still dead hit with mccain even after the way the republicans have destroyed the country?
the answer is simple, PEOPLE ARE BLIND, and don't care as long as it does not affect them PERSONALLY.
Dianne_in_DC
· 1 year ago
Ironically, pansies are actually hearty flowers that can make it through a snow storm.
liberaldemdave
· 1 year ago
what's your point dianne?
fag = cigarette queer = strange gay = happy
bashing is bashing. hillary, for being such a "friend" (quotations used to emphasize the absurdity) of the lgbt community, she sure is showing her:
a.) political calculation or b.) spinelessness
either way, she won't get this queer/gay/fag/pansy's vote.
nicho
· 1 year ago
In case anyone had missed it, Hillary borrowed Karl Rove's dog whistle a long time ago.
Coming Undone
· 1 year ago
The one thing about this never ending primary is that it has brought the racist and the bigots in the Democratic party to the surface.
And I bet when Easley said pansy Hillary stood there just smiling and clapping. I wonder just how many gay men were called a pansy right before the gay bashing and beating started.
DAB
· 1 year ago
I'm flummoxed that people here apparently know "pansy" as a way of saying someone is "effeminate" but have never made the further connection that it's an implication that someone is gay. Hello? That was the whole premise of Dana Carvey's short-lived SNL character "Lyle, the Effeminate Heterosexual." (Personally, I found that character hilarious, but the hilarity was in his self-denial, not in his effeminancy. But Hillary? Not so Hillarious)
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
johnoahon
People don't care unless it affects them personally. the Iraq war is proof of that. Most Americans didn't mind "awe and shock" until their sons, daughters, husbands, and wives were injured or died. As the death tolled climbed it reached home to more and more Americans.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
The word "pansy" can be used offensively but also innocently. As an openly gay man, I haven't got much of an issue with that particular word but it's fun to watch my all-hetero-all-the-time suburban wilderness neighbors blink when I plant pansies in the front flower beds in the spring. I'm easily amused. As for that poor Clinton woman, she needs to consider more carefully the company she keeps. There's something strangely weird about the governor's comment that there's "nothing I love more than a strong powerful woman." Victorian pulp fiction is loaded with that comment. Eeeuw!
expat
· 1 year ago
Sorry, I think this one is a bit of a stretch. Use definition (a) and all he said is Rocky is more feminine than Hillary.
donotmakemecomedownthere
· 1 year ago
"Pansy" begat "Flamboyant," which became "Fag," then "Gay." No one with half a brain needs a special decoder ring to know that they all mean "Homosexual," and are meant to degrade all who are not burly-chested enough.
Defenders will now claim that Easley and Hillary are merely closet botanists.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Thank God Easley didn't say dyke, eh? (wink, wink)
shanobama
· 1 year ago
Waiting for the Sylvester Stallone press conference.....
YO Easley! say that to my face, dude!
Coming Undone
· 1 year ago
Elizabeth Edwards is backing Clinton, so will John endorse Clinton? If he does that means everything that he said about Clinton and her ties to lobbyists meant nothing. Edwards made a lot of his campaign about candidates taking money from corporate lobbyists and he said Clinton has taken more money and has more ties to lobbyists than the all of the candidates on both sides.
Easley and I went to the same high school for a year. He heard that word plenty of times, only it was used to describe him, so I figure he knows what it means.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Congress has no authority over vice-president
Unless wearing wolfsbain and carrying a crucifix...
KerrynowCampau
· 1 year ago
I would have thought a governor would have more tact than to use the word pansy. But then macaca comes to mind......
zavlin
· 1 year ago
Overreacting maybe just a little here, pansy is also a word for a delicate flower. Poor taste in words? probably. gay bashing? Not really.
RememberNovember
· 1 year ago
Surprised Ann Coulter didn't write that speech.
dc06va
· 1 year ago
I'm gay, out, and even a hard-core Democrat, and I was NOT OFFENDED by that word. Even I use that word to describe people, male or female, or even my dog in the context of weakness. You guys are just too much, and need to get over it. Talk about HYPERSENSITIVITY! There are other issues on the gay agenda that deserve more attention, especially when everyone knows this wasn't meant as a slur against gays. This is just another example of the pro-Obama, anti-Hillary gays out there trying to make her look bad. SHAME ON YOU. Obama is just another Dukakis, and he will lose the general election.
FloridaVoter
· 1 year ago
I think the word you are looking for is OVERSENSITIVITY!
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Don't ask me what's going on.
Hillary gets kudos from a gay paper for giving a private interview but not defending gays in front of straight (and closeted gay) crowds.
Obama gets spit on for not giving a private interview to a gay paper, but defending gays in front of straight (and closeted gay) crowds.
zavlin
· 1 year ago
really i think in order to be "gay bashing" the quote wouldv had to gone more like "Hillary clinton makes rocky look like a pansy, that homo, hes ruining the sanctity of our marriages"
That said, goddd please let hillary lose these next few primaries.
dc06va
· 1 year ago
I'm SO SICK of this blog's anti-Hillary rhetoric and tactics. You treat Hillary like a Bush Republican and forget that she is a strong Democrat who has a fantastic record in supporting Gay America. You love to criticize Hillary's negative tactics against Obama, but you, as an Obama surrogate, are MUCH MORE NEGATIVE towards her campaign and are the one's responsible for destroying the party.
zavlin
· 1 year ago
I think the reason hillary has drawn widespread blog-fire is pretty simple, but not really an issue of obama preference. Mathmatically she has lost the election. The only way she "wins" the election is through the superdelegates turning around the results. If the superdelegates are perceived as handing the election to anyone, the credibility of the whole process is smeared, and it will turn into a loud drawn out battle that will ultimately leave whoever enters the presidential election as a wounded duck. The sooner we have a canidate the better, and hillary appears all too eager to do and say whatever it takes to get an edge.
NCMan
· 1 year ago
are you sure you want to equate Easley's use of the word Pansy with Obama's use of the Rev Donnie McClurkin on the gospel tour?
As I recall, you here at AmericaBlog have given Obama a pass on that one.
The reference to San Francisco, latte sippers and "feelings" are references to far left liberalism and you know that. It's incredible the lengths you will go to in order to characterize Clinton in negative terms. While at the same time you always ask for CONTEXT when discussing anything about Obama or his surrogates.
Coming Undone
· 1 year ago
Hillary is a Bush Republican and she is not a strong Democrat. Strong Democrats don't attack other Democrats in a way that would make Karl Rove blush. Strong Democrats don't throw their base under the bus.
Hillary is a Republican running for the Democratic nomination.
FunMe
· 1 year ago
One thing I have is strong instincts. I always knew sHillary was nothing but bad news. The woman has no shame and she needs to be KICKED OUT of the Democratic Party.
Will_Bower
· 1 year ago
sssttttrrrreeeetttttccccchhhhh
Wowzers. You Obamans must really be in crisis mode to be going this far out there.
Ps -- I'm a gay guy who has not been living under a rock, and I have *zero* problems with the word "pansy". In fact, when I hear the term "pansy", I think of little girls names "Pansy", like Pansy Parkinson from "Harry Potter". And I think of those little flowers. "Gay" doesn't even hit my radar.
Oh, if only gays had voted in all these contests thus far, Hillary would be our nominee already.
Ethrdg
· 1 year ago
Yeah...um...I'm gay--and not in the least offended by the use of the word pansy--especially in a context in which it is clear that the Governor was NOT suggesting that Rocky Balboa is gay. Saying "You make Rocky Balboa look like a pansy" is clearly different than saying, "All of the guys from Queer Eye are f-ing pansies!" The intent is clear by the context. And in this case, gay-bashing was obviously not the intent.
Context is everything. Just as with Rev. Wright's comments--context is EXTREMELY important. It'd be really nice if we could keep that in mind while looking at BOTH sides of this campaign.
taodon
· 1 year ago
Oh, if only gays had voted in all these contests thus far, Hillary would be our nominee already.
Not if we gays who despise her and her betraying husband had anything to say about it.
Coming Undone
· 1 year ago
If Bush or Cheney used the word pansy in a speech all the people that are saying John is overreacting would be in an up roar. A politician especially one that calls himself a Democrat should be very aware of the words that he uses.
taodon
· 1 year ago
You treat Hillary like a Bush Republican and forget that she is a strong Democrat who has a fantastic record in supporting Gay America.
She doesn't support Gay America. She panders to us. She doesn't say anything to anyone who hates Gay America, she avoids the subject. As for her record - show it. Where is this highly vaunted pro-gay Hillary Clinton? I have yet to see anyone drag anything out that is remotely pro-gay that she has sponsored or vocally supported. So, prove it. Why should I, as a gay man, believe that Senator Clinton and her husband aren't going to do anything but betray us just like they did the last time?
jescot
· 1 year ago
I dont think John is being oversensitive at all. "Pansy "is not even an acceptable word for my 3rd grader to use let alone a Governor.
Intent does'nt matter but TACT always does. Pansy is a word that does not belong in public discourse at all.
To see it anyother way shows a lack of understanding that in a big tent of ideas - sticks and stones are not the only things that hurt...words can unite but they can also divide.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
These days, everyone bashes gays, praises god and loves guns: heck it's election time!
Heck, I will respect the politician who actually says what he believes for the betterment of our culture.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
taodon 4 minutes ago ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't think of either Bill nor Hill as Democrats any longer. Oh sure they are IN NAME, but their actions and policies are far more Republican than anything a Dem would recognize these days.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
dc06va 28 minutes ago ------------------------------------------------------------------- My last comment was more to you I see than taodon.
Sorry Taodon!
bordo
· 1 year ago
What has either Clinton done for gay Americans? I thought Bill's much-touted "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" program for the military was largely considered a disaster. As for her, what human rights legislation has she backed? What unpopular stands has she taken?
Obama has spoken in black churches --home to social conservatives who would make Rush Limbaugh look like a lefty-- of the need to accept gays. What has Hillary done?
interlude
· 1 year ago
god, guns, and gays fear and 3am phone calls don't forget folks, Obama is black "not hesitating" to obliterate Iran she's a little more subtle than Dubya a little more subtle than (Mc)Cain but still... fascism, pure fascism.
jr
· 1 year ago
I'm so sick of the pandering to imaginary "Reagan democrats" that don't exist. She has thrown the gay and African American communities out like garbage. She destroys our party day after day while the Hillary blogs like No Quarter have become LGF clones
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
Obama is having a Press conference right now!
FloridaVoter
· 1 year ago
I would like to encourage people to do their homework before they post. Only those in the gay community can make the conclusion if the word pansy is offensive. As a gay man myself, I must tell you, GET OVER IT! People are way too sensitive these days. If it's not pansy, then it is bitter, if not some other word. What about the issues that matter? Oil prices, mortgage meltdowns, this thing called the war in Iraq.
For those of you who claim Hillary is anti-gay, I happen to be a member of the Miami-Dade LGBT and can say we have maintained closed ties with the Clintons since their White House Years. I was diagnosed HIV+ and it was through programs instituted by Clinton that I was able to pay for my medications before I had health insurance so please post responsibly.
eciasullo
· 1 year ago
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WindmillChasr
· 1 year ago
Sorry John, I almost always agree with you on this stuff but the context of the word pansy clearly means they were saying that it would make Rocky look weak, not gay. Hillary does have a Gay problem, but this isn't the phrase in context to start that fight with.
3. Slang: Disparaging and Offensive. a. a male homosexual. b. a weak, effeminate, and often cowardly man.
paulko
· 1 year ago
Easley, A Democrat, has done NOTHING for our state of NC. Hi is right up there with Libby Dole.
NCMan
· 1 year ago
paulko,
If you are from NC you should know her name is LIDDY Dole, not LIBBY.
Libby is a can of vegetables. And while LIDDY may be about as smart as a can of green beans, her nickname is LIDDY.
ricky63
· 1 year ago
I think he meant to say pussy, and slipped up.
rp0402
· 1 year ago
Openly gay guy here, I have a mean runway walk...very fierce, and don't find the use of the word pansy, in this context, offensive.
Get over it!
bjohnm
· 1 year ago
Sorry John, I'm in agreement with many below. Hillary has a gay problem, but then most politicians do. Even if they're supoprtive, they pay a price. I'm not sure how supportive the Clinton's really are, but I'm not offended by "Pansy" remark used in this context. You sound like FauxNews with that screaming headline that is simply not accurate.
devlzadvocate
· 1 year ago
Ok, now lets find real issues to get upset about. . . . poverty, hunger, war, etc.
Save being super sensitive for your girlfriends.
divabunny
· 1 year ago
wow!!! and WOW!!!
i can smell the desperation from the obama-ites through my computer screen! if thats the best you can do to divert from the rev., then things must be looking really bleak for you guys... hate to break the bad news... but this is just the beginning... pretty soon the rev will be the least of his worries... the door to the closet holding all of the skeletons is slowly opening.... rezkowatch.blogspot.com
bordo
· 1 year ago
It may be your own b.s. you smell.
missmarple
· 1 year ago
If she is the nominee - I'm staying home. She and Bill will do anything to get the power that Bush has bestowed on the Presidency and that scares me, because whoever wins will never give it up.
homebuilder
· 1 year ago
missmarple: "If she is the nominee - I'm staying home."
I can't even begin to tell you how many fellow Obama supporters have told me the same thing. The only way we are going to teach Howard Dean and the DNC a lesson, is to give the Presidency to McCain. Hillary = pure evil
koko62
· 1 year ago
Homebuilder, you are not alone, As a black woman I will not vote for her either. I hate her and hill billy Bill Clinton for degrading and trying to bring Obama down. I wish they would go far, far, far, away.
divabunny
· 1 year ago
@homebuilder: funny you should say that bc the polls released today show that if obama is the nom, then 30% of clinton supporters will vote for mccain! at least those of us that support hillary are going to come out and teach dean and brazile a lesson... we plan on coming out and voting AGAINST OBAMA!
saved12
· 1 year ago
Just google Peter Paul...and see who would be laughing later
joannahallmark
· 1 year ago
OMFG divabunny and homebuilder you both sound like such brats. "If you don't play my way I will take my toys and go home!" Jesus Christ you two are pathetic, you would rather have a president McWar for four more years, of which would include bombing Iran, making permanent the tax cuts for corporate America, and establishing a permanent military in Iraq. GEt a grip people, the republicans are laughing their asses off at how childish we sound!
jaclemons222
· 1 year ago
John,
I think you need a little vacation. Get away for a while. Visit some friends, go for a sail, but do not blog. You just jumped the shark
nicho
· 1 year ago
He should have said "pussy" instead of "pansy." The gay community would have been OK with that -- and apparently Hillary supporters don't see a problem. So, it would have been much better.
solar30
· 1 year ago
I grew up in a time when pansy was often thrown at those who didn't meet the macho, over-testosterone laden jocks. Although I was involved in sports I also read a lot and studied. I had "pansy" thrown at me. If you've not been on the receiving end of such language then you really don't understand how offensive it is. If you don't understand the damage name calling does to kids then you really need to find out. For a governor of a state to use that term is inappropriate and offensive. Even after all these years I detest that term when it is used to describe anything other than a flower. I teach and I see kids lives damaged because of name calling. We have kids who take their own lives because of being called names like "pansy". So, please consider the bigger picture before you dismiss the concern. Thanks.
sfbayani
· 1 year ago
Watching the video and you can either speculate. 1. Billary does not understand the word 2. Billary is stupidly clueless and does not want to antagonize the surrogate. 3. Billary is homophobic. So, is Billary hiding something in her closet? Who is that girl besides you, Billary? Now, now, what does Elton John think about this? Not a word from Billary???
impeachme
· 1 year ago
Years ago, I lost a partner to a gay basher yelling "Pansy." As recently as last year, another friend was bashed when he stepped off a city bus as the self-loathing straights yelled similar epithets. The governor and Hillary should both apologize and come into this century with their views and language. Would have been less acceptable to use "nigger," "hymie," "cunt," or any other hateful term? I think so and that makes me sad.
uhhuhh
· 1 year ago
It makes absolutely no difference whether Easley meant "pansy" to mean "queer" or to mean "effeminate." Neither is acceptable. But if gender-based slurs are now to be part of the campaign (and this isn't the first time the Clinton campaign has resorted to them), fine. I'll stop avoiding them too:
PANSIES AGAINST THE BITCH!
koko62
· 1 year ago
African Americans, in Miami, Florida will not be voting for Hillary if she is the nominee. We will sit the General election out. Hillary cannot win without the BLACK VOTES. We despise her. We just don't trust her.
FloridaVoter
· 1 year ago
Hey koko62,
If you think you have a valid point I welcome you to attend our Miami-Dade County DEC meeting on May 5th at the American Legion and you'll see many African-Americans that support Hillary as well as many whites and hispanics that support Obama. If you attend the meeting you will see a group of people that understand there are differences in opinions but that we must all work together to win in November. Doing anything less is simply selfish, and honestly very much in contradiction with the platform of the Democratic Party. The hate that you are spewing is what will cause our defeat in November...you're right, you are better off staying home.
shameonyou
· 1 year ago
looking at all these comments, if these are the democrats who will be voting come nov. then we will need God's help to defeat the rep. It is so childish, its like no common sense in these arguments. Get a grip and talk about issues not stupidity. As always united we stand and divided we fall. Divide and conquer. Most of you sound so uneducated and don't have a thing to talk about and should not have a vote come nov. Get real people.
lizr
· 1 year ago
we cannot and will not ever vote for someone as dishonest as Hill who sells us out to boot.
texasalleykat
· 1 year ago
I will never vote for Hillary. I blame the media just as much as anyone for his problems. They play it over and over again and I think they all sleep with Hil and Bill. Please if you are an Obama supporter and will not vote for hillary please come and sign our petition. You will find it here: http://ak-elections2008.blogspot.com/ The Democrats need to know that they will not win with hillary and the superdeligates need to start getting behind Obama and stop letting him fight this battle alone!
vivacious
· 1 year ago
I second the motion. I will never, ever vote for Hiliary. If Obama doesn't win the nomination, I like others will stay at home. For those of you who will vote for John McCain if Hiliary doesn't win, is obviously a republican. You never had any real intentions of voting for Senator Obama in the first place.
Honestly, I can't believe Hiliary after all of her deceitful lies, is still getting others to vote for her. It's sad and really ridiculous. We are going to all suffer at the hands of the republicians and we have no one to blame but our own ignorance.
texasalleykat
· 1 year ago
I am a former republican who jumped the fence for Obama. My kids both live in Austin and are Democrats who are for Obama. They will not vote for hillary. I have wrestled with the thought of voting for McCain just to keep hillary from getting it because of her dirty tactics against Obama but then I am not ready for another 4 years of the republicans either. I just don't want the clintons. They disgust me!
Dick7s
· 1 year ago
Yo from the Italian Stallion.... Hillarys just like me "I can't beat him. But that don't bother me. The only thing I want to do is to go the distance, that's all. Because if that bell rings and I'm still standing, then I'm gonna know for the first time in my life, see, that I wasn't just another bum from the neighborhood." Rocky Balboa
greenthumbsknow
· 1 year ago
Let's set the record straight. As a native North Carolinian, (an a liberal), anyone who has a garden or knows the least little thing about plants knows that down here in the beautiful south, when the weather gets hot pansies lie down and die. By the end of May everyone has ripped out their pansies and replanted them with petunias or geraniums or even marigolds, which stand up in the heat. While I will be the first to call Easley by the nickname "weasley", I defend his use of the word "pansy" as a reference to something which does not take the heat rather than a gay slur. Truth be told, Weasley is rather effeminate himself, in my opinion. Any liberal or conservative gardener who knows the joys of creating a garden in the south knows what I am talking about and would/should agree.
lizr
· 1 year ago
LIVING IN A DREAM WORLD OF DENIAL.
what I expect from Clintonites at this pt.
Most intelligent gays have deserted.
lizr
· 1 year ago
thanks for covering this. I sent on to Planet Out. Maybe they will too.
Too many in our community looking for leadership from Bad Mommy.
I'm Barry Gibb
· 1 year ago
I can tell you one thing, BARRY GIBB AINT NO PANSY! How da-ha-ha-ha-har-hare you.
bhannan
· 1 year ago
I am a rabid Obama supporter but this is such a small deal it's embarrassing. C'mon . . . "pansy"? So what?
justme44
· 1 year ago
Give me a break, I am gay and I'm not offended. This is so lame. Just something the Obama people are grabbing at. Pansey to me doesn't reference gays what so ever. You can be a "Pansey" and not be gay, and not all gays are panseys. Its a simple term meaning a person who isn't a fighter.thats an example of how pathetic this elections is and the media jumping on every word someone uses and twisting it to mean what they want it to mean.
bfraser55
· 1 year ago
I havent heard the word pansy since I was called one in high school,many years ago. It is just another example of HRC doing anything to win. Slight us when we are not giving you a dinner to raise money for your campaign. Just because "we" arent as visible as other minorities "we" are everwhere. I have already changed froom Edwards (not running) to Obama who is running.
cigarettes
· 1 year ago
me too.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
OK, I've been living under a rock. Had no idea that "pansy" meant gay.
Matthew Saroff
· 1 year ago
Fuck!!! Next thing you know, she'll allow an anti-gay preacher/gospel to hijack a campaign event to spout bigotry....Oh...what....Happened...in South Carolina????? Obama event?????
Never mind.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Cowboy, You and I both know that I don't have a -806 rating. Disqus has rigged the counter so that every negative I get is multiplied by 8.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
"Cowboy, You and I both know that I don't have a -806 rating. Disqus has rigged the counter so that every negative I get is multiplied by 8."
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Keep telling yourself that Busboy... just keep telling yourself that.
"OK, I've been living under a rock."
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No, YOU? Busboy? Living under a rock? Not you, Busboy!
I think your -806 rating would prove you're the last person to realize that very important point!
All the Corporate Propaganda Talking Heads were all talking around the real issue this morning, and Schumer FINALLY nailed it down. Of course, the Corporate Propaganda Media doesn't' want to talk about the falling American dollar and how that is affecting fuel prices. NOOOoooooo! They immediately changed subjects as soon as the REAL reason was mentioned.
It isn't ANWAR, it isn't ethanol and it sure as hell ain't oil refineries, folks! ITS THE AMERICAN DOLLAR AND HOW BU$HCO HAS TRASHED IT that is costing you an arm and leg at the fuel pump and grocery store.
Pansy for Hillary, in Massachusetts the gayest state in the nation.
She's despicable. Predictabe and despicable.
i've known some fags that weren't pansy's and vice versa.
from wikipedia.
The word "pansy" has indicated an effeminate male since Elizabethan times and its usage as a disparaging term for a man or boy who is effeminate (as well as for an avowedly homosexual man) is still used.
I would be careful trying to make Clinton too masculine, though. She already has those lesbian rumors flying about. Easley saying she makes Balboa look like a pansy does nothing to quell the Clinton lesbian thing. Doesn't soften her image, much.
I wouldn't worry too much about making Hil "too masculine." She is surely NOT the "lipstick" side of any lesbian duo. She's the pickup side. Look at those ugly pantssuits, the beer and shots whe was busy downing with all the racist ignorant working-man types in PA, trying to prove herself "one of the boys!" And talk about racist, sexist, and ignorant, NC is a hotbed of it. It hust that the state has lots of blacks who are NOT going to put up with Hil's garbage.
Update on the Clinton supporter who invited Wright to the press club.
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/columnists/...
I tested your claim Disqus gives you a minus 8 every time someone gives you a negative rating, so I gave you a neg rating. Guess what? It didn't change your score. Disqus probably waits until you get more than one and hands it to ya all at once, therefore you actually ARE getting that kind of rating. Stop thinking you are so "special" that Disqus might target you.
Imus says both Hillary and Obama are pussies...
don't you just love this country?
You get outraged over the use of this word? I am straight and never made that same association. To me the word pansy just means weak or more like a girl than anything else. To make the leap to homosexual from being weak, I don't know how that comes about.
But isn't this entirely Clintonesque. Stab your friends in the back for political expediency, then justify it, because it was for political expediency. And in the culture of NC, isn't this red meat?? By now we should all know this is the character of HRC. "I'm in it to win." That was her announcement when she began her candidacy. Whether it's sniper fire, whether it's race, "elitism", she'll do whatever it takes. Her George Wallace wedge strategy, and her neocon comments about nuking Iran are all part of the same character. She's become unelectable to me. What about you, John?
have you forgotten that 30% of people still support bush?
have you forgotten that obama and the witch are still dead hit with mccain even after the way the republicans have destroyed the country?
the answer is simple, PEOPLE ARE BLIND, and don't care as long as it does not affect them PERSONALLY.
fag = cigarette
queer = strange
gay = happy
bashing is bashing. hillary, for being such a "friend" (quotations used to emphasize the absurdity) of the lgbt community, she sure is showing her:
a.) political calculation
or
b.) spinelessness
either way, she won't get this queer/gay/fag/pansy's vote.
And I bet when Easley said pansy Hillary stood there just smiling and clapping.
I wonder just how many gay men were called a pansy right before the gay bashing and beating started.
People don't care unless it affects them personally. the Iraq war is proof of that. Most Americans didn't mind "awe and shock" until their sons, daughters, husbands, and wives were injured or died. As the death tolled climbed it reached home to more and more Americans.
As for that poor Clinton woman, she needs to consider more carefully the company she keeps. There's something strangely weird about the governor's comment that there's "nothing I love more than a strong powerful woman." Victorian pulp fiction is loaded with that comment. Eeeuw!
Defenders will now claim that Easley and Hillary are merely closet botanists.
YO Easley! say that to my face, dude!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/29/dic...
Unless wearing wolfsbain and carrying a crucifix...
Hillary gets kudos from a gay paper for giving a private interview but not defending gays in front of straight (and closeted gay) crowds.
Obama gets spit on for not giving a private interview to a gay paper, but defending gays in front of straight (and closeted gay) crowds.
That said, goddd please let hillary lose these next few primaries.
As I recall, you here at AmericaBlog have given Obama a pass on that one.
The reference to San Francisco, latte sippers and "feelings" are references to far left liberalism and you know that. It's incredible the lengths you will go to in order to characterize Clinton in negative terms. While at the same time you always ask for CONTEXT when discussing anything about Obama or his surrogates.
Hillary is a Republican running for the Democratic nomination.
Wowzers. You Obamans must really be in crisis mode to be going this far out there.
Ps -- I'm a gay guy who has not been living under a rock, and I have *zero* problems with the word "pansy". In fact, when I hear the term "pansy", I think of little girls names "Pansy", like Pansy Parkinson from "Harry Potter". And I think of those little flowers. "Gay" doesn't even hit my radar.
Oh, if only gays had voted in all these contests thus far, Hillary would be our nominee already.
Context is everything. Just as with Rev. Wright's comments--context is EXTREMELY important. It'd be really nice if we could keep that in mind while looking at BOTH sides of this campaign.
Not if we gays who despise her and her betraying husband had anything to say about it.
She doesn't support Gay America. She panders to us. She doesn't say anything to anyone who hates Gay America, she avoids the subject. As for her record - show it. Where is this highly vaunted pro-gay Hillary Clinton? I have yet to see anyone drag anything out that is remotely pro-gay that she has sponsored or vocally supported. So, prove it. Why should I, as a gay man, believe that Senator Clinton and her husband aren't going to do anything but betray us just like they did the last time?
Intent does'nt matter but TACT always does. Pansy is a word that does not belong in public discourse at all.
To see it anyother way shows a lack of understanding that in a big tent of ideas - sticks and stones are not the only things that hurt...words can unite but they can also divide.
Heck, I will respect the politician who actually says what he believes for the betterment of our culture.
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I don't think of either Bill nor Hill as Democrats any longer. Oh sure they are IN NAME, but their actions and policies are far more Republican than anything a Dem would recognize these days.
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My last comment was more to you I see than taodon.
Sorry Taodon!
Obama has spoken in black churches --home to social conservatives who would make Rush Limbaugh look like a lefty-- of the need to accept gays. What has Hillary done?
fear and 3am phone calls
don't forget folks, Obama is black
"not hesitating" to obliterate Iran
she's a little more subtle than Dubya
a little more subtle than (Mc)Cain
but still...
fascism, pure fascism.
For those of you who claim Hillary is anti-gay, I happen to be a member of the Miami-Dade LGBT and can say we have maintained closed ties with the Clintons since their White House Years. I was diagnosed HIV+ and it was through programs instituted by Clinton that I was able to pay for my medications before I had health insurance so please post responsibly.
dictionary.com
3. Slang: Disparaging and Offensive.
a. a male homosexual.
b. a weak, effeminate, and often cowardly man.
If you are from NC you should know her name is LIDDY Dole, not LIBBY.
Libby is a can of vegetables. And while LIDDY may be about as smart as a can of green beans, her nickname is LIDDY.
Get over it!
Save being super sensitive for your girlfriends.
i can smell the desperation from the obama-ites through my computer screen! if thats the best you can do to divert from the rev., then things must be looking really bleak for you guys... hate to break the bad news... but this is just the beginning... pretty soon the rev will be the least of his worries... the door to the closet holding all of the skeletons is slowly opening.... rezkowatch.blogspot.com
I can't even begin to tell you how many fellow Obama supporters have told me the same thing. The only way we are going to teach Howard Dean and the DNC a lesson, is to give the Presidency to McCain. Hillary = pure evil
I think you need a little vacation. Get away for a while. Visit some friends, go for a sail, but do not blog. You just jumped the shark
1. Billary does not understand the word
2. Billary is stupidly clueless and does not want to antagonize the surrogate.
3. Billary is homophobic.
So, is Billary hiding something in her closet? Who is that girl besides you, Billary?
Now, now, what does Elton John think about this?
Not a word from Billary???
PANSIES AGAINST THE BITCH!
If you think you have a valid point I welcome you to attend our Miami-Dade County DEC meeting on May 5th at the American Legion and you'll see many African-Americans that support Hillary as well as many whites and hispanics that support Obama. If you attend the meeting you will see a group of people that understand there are differences in opinions but that we must all work together to win in November. Doing anything less is simply selfish, and honestly very much in contradiction with the platform of the Democratic Party. The hate that you are spewing is what will cause our defeat in November...you're right, you are better off staying home.
Please if you are an Obama supporter and will not vote for hillary please come and sign our petition.
You will find it here: http://ak-elections2008.blogspot.com/
The Democrats need to know that they will not win with hillary and the superdeligates need to start getting behind Obama and stop letting him fight this battle alone!
Honestly, I can't believe Hiliary after all of her deceitful lies, is still getting others to vote for her. It's sad and really ridiculous. We are going to all suffer at the hands of the republicians and we have no one to blame but our own ignorance.
in Austin and are Democrats who are for Obama. They will not vote for
hillary. I have wrestled with the thought of voting for McCain just to keep
hillary from getting it because of her dirty tactics against Obama but then
I am not ready for another 4 years of the republicans either. I just don't
want the clintons. They disgust me!
"I can't beat him. But that don't bother me. The only thing I want to do is to go the distance, that's all. Because if that bell rings and I'm still standing, then I'm gonna know for the first time in my life, see, that I wasn't just another bum from the neighborhood." Rocky Balboa
what I expect from Clintonites at this pt.
Most intelligent gays have deserted.
Too many in our community looking for leadership from Bad Mommy.
it's embarrassing. C'mon . . . "pansy"? So what?
Just because "we" arent as visible as other minorities "we" are everwhere. I have already changed froom Edwards (not running) to Obama who is running.
Never mind.
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Keep telling yourself that Busboy... just keep telling yourself that.
Always the victim...
:)
-50 dkp!