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AMERICAblog: House Republican Whip Roy Blunt (R-MO): McCain "stopped a deal" yesterday at the White House

  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    Now Wall Street is going to want to skullfuck him, any way it can. And I can't wait to see it happen. First thing: pull the plug on money to his campaign. And to the RNC.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    LOL!

    Skullfuck McCain!
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    If only... I'm sure, in the end, Wall $treet is going to continue to try to prop up the fetid, stinking corpse of the Palin-Mc$ame campaign. They know if true democracy is allowed to sweet Republicans out of office they won't be getting all their tax credits. Believe me, Wall $treet is manipulating a lot of this right now. I don't trust ANYTHING that happens between now and the election. My satisfaction is that their dirty tricks are backfiring on them.
  • red_dwarf · 1 year ago
    My dear Ms. Richards - caught me off guard on this one. I hadn't heard that term in so long I can't remember - had a hell of a time getting a visual - which orifice?

    The rePIGs are criminals. Who in the hell knows what's going to happen - can't discount the whore Press - or the spineless Dems - or God forbid, another false flag. The transparency couldn't be any more transparent - but, like Alice and the silver spoon, we are adrift in a sea of Mother Goose.
  • AngryOne · 1 year ago
    As John McCain heads to Mississippi for the presidential debate he held hostage for the past two days, his cynical ploy is being panned across the political spectrum. While Chris Dodd blasted the Republican's bungled bailout intervention as "a rescue plan for John McCain," GOP colleague Mike Huckabee called it simply a "huge mistake." Sadly, McCain's self-proclaimed white knight role is now a sadly familiar routine. As we saw with the approach of Hurricane Gustav, down in the polls and facing a national crisis which exposes him at his weakest, John McCain suspends his campaign and declares the issue must be taken "out of politics." In a nutshell, McCain's pathetic modus operandi is our pain, his gain.

    For the details, see:
    "McCain's M.O. - Our Pain, His Gain."
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Nothing seems to be working for the Republicans, nothing. Sounds like they seriously thought the Dems would vote for this bill without bipartisan representation, guess they didn't believe Pelosi. Our economy is in the tank and STILL Republicans want to play politics. Disgusting, just disgusting.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Why would anyone believe Pelosi?
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    True, which is my point. They thought Pelosi was going to cave and got shocked( as most of us) that she stuck to her statement, no bill without bipartisan votes.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Agreed that this all makes McCain look erratic and confused, which he clearly is. However, the dems need to get away from owning this bailout plan. It will be toxic for supporters come November.
  • HereinDC · 1 year ago
    Erratic:
    1.bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran
    2. Gorilla rape jokes
    3. Janet Reno/Clinton joke
    4. Picking Palin
    5. Not debating
    6. Souring the negotiations
    7.Having a Birthday Party while thousands drown
    8. Picking Palin
    9. Picking Palin
    10. Picking Palin
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Well, more like a senile bull in a China shop.
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    I'm telling you, the democrats are just going to have to pass Bush's Wall Street bailout without the repuglicans. That'll show 'em.
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    I hope not. That's exactly what the Republicans want them to do. I think the Democrats need to step aside and remind people this is a Republican mess and the Republicans have to assume some responsibility for cleaning it up.
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    Oops. My snark ability fails :(

    But seriously, I certainly hope not too Karol but I do think there is a good chance the dems will cave and pass this without the republicans.
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    The Dems are not going to do Bush that favor, not without making the House GOP also take a big bite out of this poison pill, too.
  • jebauer · 1 year ago
    Man oh man... I really hope the Dems walk away from this "rescue plan", keep people in their homes and let the banks go. When the financial institutions fail, we get to see exactly what everything's worth and exactly what happened.... accountability. If we bail the financial geniuses out, they get to cover up their bad business... am I right here? Is there a way to directly help individuals who are in debt rather than the banks?
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Just saw David Shuster on MSNBC and he had a Republican guest, Ron Christie, and some Democratic strategist, didn't catch her name. Did you see it? AGAIN, who pays these supposed Democratic strategists? I watched while Shuster brought up the premature McCain "Debate wins debate!" ad paid for by McCain - Palin campaign. The Republican couldn't explain it, but NOT TO WORRY, the Democratic milk toast Democratic strategist claimed sometimes these things happen in campaigns, and its all part of the spin of a campaign. WTF?!!? She might as well come up with some more talking points for Republicans while she is at defending the McCain - Palin campaign from the OBVIOUS LYING campaign that "McCain wins debate!" before he was to have even decided to debate!!!

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/09...

    That crossed eyed Republican analyst, Ron Christy, isn't looking too good, by the way. But, then again, neither is John McCain. McCain looks SICK. That make-up artist isn't helping.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    LOL I wonder if the Dem was a slightly pudgy dark hair gal that smiles a lot? If so, she never gets in a word edge wise with Christie. She is totally useless, actually she is just too polite most of the time.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Yea, know who you are talking about. This was more of an ultra-polite apologetic brunette. We need some strategists who have the nads to tell Republican scum to STFU and stop apologizing for Republican mistakes and score a few points for the Democratic team.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Democrats need to just hold back and let the Republicans annihilate each other. If Republicans can't help out then just let things continuing to collapse. Sooner or later, people will realize just who has their best interest at heart. Democrats need to remember if they jump through hoops for the Republicans then we will just continue to be led by their disastrous leadership. Its time for Republicans to STFU and do what they are told.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Republicans are good at STFU and do what they are told, damn they have done it for 7 years.
  • Wild_Weasel · 1 year ago
    This was a set up. A desperate set up.

    The Republicans are back to dirty tricks instead of issues.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Republicans want Democrats to go back to their furious districts and claim they passed a bill to protect Wall $treet execs. If we are truly in dire and dangerous times financially then Republicans will join Democrats and the two caucuses will vote together. Otherwise, then screw it. Let the American people suffer and realize this is the fruit of Republican Reaganesque ideology.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Breaking News - Live on MSNBC:

    Oh, now President Bu$h is bragging about all the good work he has done by ignoring Afghanistan and shoving the Iraq War down our throats. He has Karzei on playing politics and trying to act like the Bu$h Administration is on top of things, when they aren't. I've noticed Bu$hco. is desperate to catch O$ama bin Laden after SEVEN years of ignoring him to score Presidential campaign points with the undecided sheep.

    Democrats and Obama need to neutralize the "catch Osama in October" campaign stunt, and remind voters Osama is still free, and they welcome the Bu$h Administration catching him before the Presidential election but it would have been nice if the man who masterminded 9-11 had been caught "dead or alive" by now.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    We, at least I, thought the same thing in 2004. Thought they were going to catch Bin Laden but it never happened.
  • lutton · 1 year ago
    Stopping the deal is, in and of itself, not a bad thing. But McCain seems to be just wandering around, floundering through the process. He seemed more to muck up the works rather than purposefully stride in and put an end to a bad deal. Squirels and nuts, right?
  • Wild_Weasel · 1 year ago
    Evil is as Evil does.
    (appologies to Forrest Gump).
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    LIE-berman is on live on MSNBC trying to explain why McCain didn't continue to suspend his campaign. Norah O'Donnel, set LIE-berman back on his heals by asking why McCain flipped. LIE-berman couldn't believe a REPUBLICAN, like Norah, would ask him a pertinent question. LIE-berman responded, "He (McCain) didn't flip. Obama didn't play by the same rules." HUHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhh? Obama never said he was going to suspend his campaign. Obama said Presidents have to multi-task and the campaigns would go on as usual while working for a solution. All McCain did is CLAIM to suspend his campaign and inject Presidential politics into the solution.
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    There's a lot of obstructionism going around at many levels. I suspect many people who think of themselves as helpful and thoughtful are going to find themselves on the wrong end of the stick. We're going to recognize conservatives who are liberal, we're going to discover the conservative streak in far too many liberals. The lines redraw themselves in times like these.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    I don't think Democrats need to try too hard to get this deal passed. Its Republicans and their administration who want this deal. Let them get the votes together and Democrats just MAYBE will go along. I want to see Democrats get the edge here. I'm for seeing MORE partisanship because Democrats, too many times, at in a bipartisan manner only to get their asses kicked in elections for doing what was best for America while Republicans played politics. I want the REPUBLICANS to pay for this. This entire scenario was seen by those of us who argued against Reagan's "free market - let it regulate itself" BULLSHIT for years. Republicans brought this mess to America so its time they pay for their crisis.
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    That sounds plausible. It also sounds like an argument against a bailout. That'd be fine.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    I'm against a bailout unless Republicans are ENTIRELY onboard. Otherwise, Democrats will get SLAMMED by it.
  • okojo · 1 year ago
    I don't think McCain killed the deal. The House Republicans didn't accept the guidelines of the bailout that Paulson proposed. Ditto for their refusal not to send a negotiator to the meeting with Paulson last night. If McCain did anything was try to give some public backbone to some of the ideologues in the House Republican caucus. If anyone who killed the deal, it is Boehner. It is his job to keep the Caucus in line,and he tried to change the rules of the guidelines.

    McCain has been awful in this. It has nothing in "killing" the deal, (The deal will be done sooner than later) but being opaque and flaky, when he has to be very clear and resolute. He didn't say much at the meeting at the White House yesterday, and if he wanted to show leadership, he would had boxed Boehner on the head, and tell him to line up the votes. McCain doesn't much influence with the House Republicans.

    McCain also has stated at all his position on what to do with this crisis. That is to me his biggest crime by far.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    I would add, unlike the premature and lying ad that "McCain won the debate!" - approved by his campaign, McCain LOST the debate just by LYING about how he wouldn't participate unless there was a deal in Washington, DC.

    Is this how McCain is going to try to run the country if he is President? The man isn't just Mc$ame but he is McIn$ane.
  • News Nag · 1 year ago
    I'm not too worried about it, but I think McCain's grandstanding intention was actually to kill the deal so he could go to the debate tonight and claim that he alone is protecting the interest of the American taxpayers.

    It's baloney, of course, but I think that is the strategy: Maverick makes Wall Street lackeys eat dust. Friend of the common man McCain saves Main Street.

    You know, that kind of crap. Obama will still wipe the floor with him, in that statesmanlike way of his, of course, but with a firmness, steadiness, and resolve - and with knowledge and actual facts.

    The only votes McCain can get at this point, besides crazy fundies, crazy neocons, crazy racists, and crazy cougars, are crazy sympathy votes.
  • bronco214 · 1 year ago
    "Now, Democrats are in the majority, they can pass anything they want to without a single Republican vote."
    Yeah, right. That's the reason they've passed so many bills in the 110th Congress. Lying liers and obstructionist assholes. I really, really hope that we get Obama in and a super-majority so things can start to change.
  • daveinboca · 1 year ago
    I can remember the same type of ravers as Aravosis saying the very same thing in '80 about Ronald Reagan and how he was going to start WW III. Instead Ronnie brought down the USSR.

    I think the bailout as it stands stinks, but it's funny that serial liars Barney Frank and Harry Reid both claimed McCain came to DC and didn't say or do a thing. Which is it?

    Did McCain ruin the bailout or did he do absolutely nothing as the Two Stooges Frank & Reid attest? And for a quick look back on who is responsible for allowing the FanFed DNC ATM to implode:

    Here's the lead of a New York Times story on Sept. 11, 2003: 'The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.'

    'These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,' said Rep. Barney Frank, then ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. 'The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.'

    Yeah, Barney, you were wrong then and you're covering your tracks now.
  • DavidinChelseaMA · 1 year ago
    A McCain supporter on my local WCVB Channel 5 (ABC affiliate) said the following just a moment ago: "The bill was a speeding train, and Obama jumped on it, and McCain jumped in front of it and stopped it. He is the hero this week."

    That will be the Rethug talking point on every cable show.

    Please give me a frigging break. McCain is such a phony a-hole.
  • DougStamate · 1 year ago
    Just as his "suspended" campaign was a political ploy, so is McCain's attempt to act as a populist. I have little doubt he sounded as if he supported the House Republicans when he spoke with them, but that is what is he does: agree with you until it might profit him politically to dump you.
    The failure of the House Republicans to agree to the Democratic bail-out plan is based on two points: transparency of the loans and allowing judges to reset mortgage rates in bankruptcy cases. The financial company lobbyists were swarming over Capitol Hill as soon as a "bail-out" was announced to ensure the latter wouldn't be included.
    The House Republicans will pretend that they are "protecting" Main Street against the follies of a rapacious Wall Street. Democrats can counter that by asking them where they have been for the past 10-20 years when all the deregulation was going into effect.
    As statedin the article, the Democrats in the House can send a bill to the Senate without any Republican votes and that is where the dangers for the Republicans lie: if they oppose a bail-out that does stem an economic meltdown, they'll lose big at the polls in six weeks. If they get on board after all this huffing and puffing and the bail-out works, they are flip-floppers.
    Their only hope for political survival is that the Democrats push their plan through Congress and the economy still tanks. And more and more, that is what it appears that McCain is hoping for. Now that is really "Country First".