AMERICAblog: How many times has John McCain offered an inclusive message?
Busboy
· 1 year ago
John, did you hear Rev Wright's comment about "Bill Clinton riding dirty with Monica Lewinsky?" Most black churches are highly homophobic. For Obama's preacher to use that "riding dirty" phrase is a hint of things to come. Barry didn't sit in that pew for 20 years and not absorb the rhetoric. I'll say it again: You don't really know who Obama 'is'...
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
And you do, I suppose.
dad
· 1 year ago
sick of hell with the devil we do know.
dad
· 1 year ago
seriously. what we know is republican failure.
8 years of executive.12 years of legislative. 6 years overlap. what we see today is republican policy and theory fully realized.
they had their chance and they failed. I want Our Great Nation back.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
I hear you dad. But, Obama wants a "different nation". An "Alien Nation", if you will. Ever see the movie?
dad
· 1 year ago
my Nation has been alien to me for the past 8 years.
I think Obama is going to be a great President for a Great Nation.
different is better than the same that it is today.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
You, too, Dad. Remember that wishes granted are not desires fulfilled......
dad
· 1 year ago
have a nice evening, Busboy.
PeteWa
· 1 year ago
you once again prove that you are a better man than I, dad.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Was there ever any doubt?
RainbowPhoenix
· 1 year ago
We know plenty about who he is. His voting record speaks for itself.
Patrick_Bateman
· 1 year ago
So John was a Republican back in the day? What day was that?
Thank you for the awakening.
vwcat
· 1 year ago
I don't pretend to feel or know what you go through as a gay American man, John. But, I can understand why some gays may have turned away from the democratic party or saw them as being no different from republicans back in the beginning of the Clinton years with Don't Ask Don't Tell, and made many cynical regarding politics in general. But, the absolute witch hunts of the Bush years with the open season on gays makes me wonder how any gay person can support the republican party as it is these days. The evangelical fevor and Johnny one note of abortion and gays being the only thing that many conservatives use in deciding if someone is presidential is amazing. Competence, intelligence, leadership, issues that matter are not what is important at all to any of them. Only that they hate gays and abortion. period. If McCain spoke of gays in any way aside from the usual hate messages of the modern republican party he would be beaten by the 'good christians with true family values and godliness' right on the spot.
bill__free
· 1 year ago
they had an article on huff post that said palin got on her plane in time for SNL, but the sound on her TV wasn't working.
How about it was, and by claiming that it wasn't working, she didn't have to comment.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Wish I'd said that.... :-)....
bill__free
· 1 year ago
I just can't imagine that they wouldn't have the TV on and checked out. Making sure Fox was on. And I find it strange that the TV worked except for the sound. How common of a problem is that?
bill__free
· 1 year ago
they had an article on huff post that said palin got on her plane in time for SNL, but the sound on her TV wasn't working.
How about it was, and by claiming that it wasn't working, she didn't have to comment.
bill__free
· 1 year ago
great letter in the st cloud times about bachman and the rest of the republicans that aren't pro american.
Bill_free, do you think western and northern Minnesota is really going to vote for Obama after he's pretty much promised to put all the family farmers out of business?
shanobama
· 1 year ago
What a liar you are Busboy. After reading a months worth of RW emails today, you guys are scared shitless. Obama is going to take over America, and then it will be America no longer., blah, blah, blah, bullshit.
We think Bush made America unrecognisable, and that Obama will restore American values, ethics and integrity. We think this with pretty good evidence, and most of the electorate does too. You might try to see past your generational 'handicap' .......America has watched Sesame Street for a few generations now.
And the Millenieal generation will be the largest voting block in American history in 2016.larger than the baby boomers. We better restore our Constitution before they take over, buddy.
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
supporting republicans in this day and age is a form of mental derangement. being gay obvously can't fix that.
dad
· 1 year ago
ONE NATION
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
McCain's choice of Palin makes clear that he is just gaming gay Americans - especially gay republicans.
he chose the extreme right wing over equality and justice for all. i'm very afraid we don't know who McCain really is.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
We don't even know who "you" really is; even though you seem to have momentary flashes of cognition.... ;-)....
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
poor busboy...it's almost Nov. 5th you know...
RDSOregon
· 1 year ago
Any gay person voting Republican must have extremely deep-seated self-hatred. It's absolute lunacy. Take a look at McCapter 7 - Morally Bankrupt. Here's what many factions of the GOP think about Gays. It's pretty sad really. But what's even more sad is that any gay would still vote for them. Take a look:
Please pass it on to anyone who could still be persuaded against this type of garbage. It's time to stop the Lunacy.
mirth
· 1 year ago
Ohhh yeah. Love the vid. Love APP.
JamesR
· 1 year ago
McCain treats his gay staff well, like family, and he has their personal loyalty. He is very supportive and 'gay friendly,' personally. He spoke at Mark Bingham's funeral, to name a public thing of late. These are good things. [Even if someone doesn't think they are 'good' they are at least what he actually really believes, personally. Part of the "Real McCain" whatever that is.] However - when you add them up with what else he does in public - the specific 'gay' angle is not the larger point.
Here's the really important point, for anyone who does not know or seen it this way: McCain, especially now, is obviously doing things in public that contradict his personal beliefs, whatever they may be, he is acting on others' agenda(s) - and if he doesn't act according to his own values, or for those of his close friends and associates what would make anybody think he'd value the intents and concerns of that group of us, anonymous voters? Think about it.
McCain didn't choose Palin. McCain isn't choosing the "talking points" I.E. Goebelesque swill coming from his campaign. Nor his lack of inclusive message - though he could put a stop to it all, and of course has not so is ultimately responsible. I think we saw some of the 'old' McCain relaxed and smiling on Saturday Night Live - looking forward to the END of his act as a candidate, while acting as a candidate...
anokie
· 1 year ago
You know it's one thing to surround yourself with LGBT but if you don't break bread with them what's the point?...Funny how that in a few years the only people wanting to get married are gays/lesbians then this arguement may be a moot point. Wanda Sykes said something profound one time and to paraphrase...it's not gays that are ruining marriage it's divorce. Theres also something that I have always been curious about and something that was said on either MSNBC or CNN (I've blocked FOX on my cable box...no mas! lol) was that McCain/Palin campaign does not have any people of color on his senior or mid-level staff. Which makes me wonder what his daughter thinks about the "tone" of her fathers campaign....I mean surely shes listened to news reports and has heard the report about being smeared in 2000 as his illegitimate black daughter, and not to mention some of the racial slurs being hurled by the supporters at his rallies. I wonder how she feels about that. I'm not questioning his love for her but it does make me curious as to the relationship he has with her.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
I knew someone eight years ago who worked for John McCain's office who is gay. He was a Log Cabin Republican. Of course, the reason he was such a strong Republican was that he didn't want Mommy and Daddy to have to pay their fair share of taxes, and of course he didn't want to have to pay an inheritance tax. He was a typical entitled trust fund baby. A lot like a gay George Dubya Bush. I don't have much love for Log Cabin Republicans.
shell
· 1 year ago
It's all about MONEY.
Why would gays, blacks, women ... or any minority be Republicans? Money.
Joe The Plumber is a great example. Almost all of them are either poor, or middle class. Why would they vote against their own best interests? Because, they are just sure, that someday they will be rich.
I have said this before, and it is true.
Why else would so many Americans vote against their own best interests?
Most black churches are highly homophobic. For Obama's preacher to use that "riding dirty" phrase is a hint of things to come. Barry didn't sit in that pew for 20 years and not absorb the rhetoric. I'll say it again: You don't really know who Obama 'is'...
8 years of executive.12 years of legislative. 6 years overlap.
what we see today is republican policy and theory fully realized.
they had their chance and they failed.
I want Our Great Nation back.
I think Obama is going to be a great President for a Great Nation.
different is better than the same that it is today.
Thank you for the awakening.
But, I can understand why some gays may have turned away from the democratic party or saw them as being no different from republicans back in the beginning of the Clinton years with Don't Ask Don't Tell, and made many cynical regarding politics in general.
But, the absolute witch hunts of the Bush years with the open season on gays makes me wonder how any gay person can support the republican party as it is these days. The evangelical fevor and Johnny one note of abortion and gays being the only thing that many conservatives use in deciding if someone is presidential is amazing. Competence, intelligence, leadership, issues that matter are not what is important at all to any of them. Only that they hate gays and abortion. period.
If McCain spoke of gays in any way aside from the usual hate messages of the modern republican party he would be beaten by the 'good christians with true family values and godliness' right on the spot.
How about it was, and by claiming that it wasn't working, she didn't have to comment.
How about it was, and by claiming that it wasn't working, she didn't have to comment.
http://www.sctimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AI...
A strong new ad by the No On 8 campaign:
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
Minnesota is really going to vote for Obama after he's pretty much promised to put all the family farmers out of business?
We think Bush made America unrecognisable, and that Obama will restore American values, ethics and integrity. We think this with pretty good evidence, and most of the electorate does too. You might try to see past your generational 'handicap' .......America has watched Sesame Street for a few generations now.
And the Millenieal generation will be the largest voting block in American history in 2016.larger than the baby boomers. We better restore our Constitution before they take over, buddy.
he chose the extreme right wing over equality and justice for all.
i'm very afraid we don't know who McCain really is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8gJ_rPHXtk
Please pass it on to anyone who could still be persuaded against this type of garbage. It's time to stop the Lunacy.
Here's the really important point, for anyone who does not know or seen it this way: McCain, especially now, is obviously doing things in public that contradict his personal beliefs, whatever they may be, he is acting on others' agenda(s) - and if he doesn't act according to his own values, or for those of his close friends and associates what would make anybody think he'd value the intents and concerns of that group of us, anonymous voters? Think about it.
McCain didn't choose Palin. McCain isn't choosing the "talking points" I.E. Goebelesque swill coming from his campaign. Nor his lack of inclusive message - though he could put a stop to it all, and of course has not so is ultimately responsible. I think we saw some of the 'old' McCain relaxed and smiling on Saturday Night Live - looking forward to the END of his act as a candidate, while acting as a candidate...
Theres also something that I have always been curious about and something that was said on either MSNBC or CNN (I've blocked FOX on my cable box...no mas! lol) was that McCain/Palin campaign does not have any people of color on his senior or mid-level staff. Which makes me wonder what his daughter thinks about the "tone" of her fathers campaign....I mean surely shes listened to news reports and has heard the report about being smeared in 2000 as his illegitimate black daughter, and not to mention some of the racial slurs being hurled by the supporters at his rallies. I wonder how she feels about that. I'm not questioning his love for her but it does make me curious as to the relationship he has with her.
Why would gays, blacks, women ... or any minority be Republicans? Money.
Joe The Plumber is a great example. Almost all of them are either poor, or middle class. Why would they vote against their own best interests? Because, they are just sure, that someday they will be rich.
I have said this before, and it is true.
Why else would so many Americans vote against their own best interests?