Busboy don't work here no more. he's Toilet Boy now!
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Scytherius
· 1 year ago
Ignorance SO loves itself
anarchy
· 1 year ago
hey, pal - you leave Sarah Palin OUT of this!!
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!
Indigo
· 1 year ago
Maybe it's something in the water.
SouthernYankee
· 1 year ago
Well I can't say its much better in TN either. Although I do see the younger adults have hope. I voted for Obama and proudly had my sticker on my car. I did see a few Obama stickers on other cars. When I pass a car with McCain on it I would get in front of them and slow down alittle so they could see my sticker. I felt so good because Obama won. They are eating crow.
Nick_the_Dog
· 1 year ago
Sadly misinformed!
Rab
· 1 year ago
Pockets of hard core racists and haters of all things. Oh, and completely fucking stupid on top of that.
cyninbend
· 1 year ago
We should all move to Minnesota and elect All Franken next time!
I live in a rural part of Oregon that was soooo red when I moved here a decade ago, I thought I was the only Dem, the only liberal in town--thankfully, the cities to the West vote so overwhelmingly blue that statewide elections have always been safe. (2004 showed us that there were plenty of us and this year Dems became the majority at least in town!) The thing is, our newspaper is the reactionary voice of the morons--unbearable to read. We shake our heads at the tripe they print. Oklahomans at least have an intelligent voice speaking to them from their newspaper. Maybe eventually they'll read it?
Rab
· 1 year ago
We need all the sane voices we can get in Minnesota. In my county (one of the poorest in the state) voted for McCain/Palin. These idiots haven't had enough pain heaped on them by the repugs. Oh, the two major newspapers are increasingly repug.
bluestockton
· 1 year ago
You could say the same thing about my home state of Kentucky, although I think the greater Louisville area supported Obama. For some reason Kentuckians glory in backwardness. They did not secede during the Civil War, but until the end of the 19th century, no one could hope to be elected to public office in Kentucky if he was not a Confederate veteran.
cheesesauce
· 1 year ago
I am proud to be an Okie who voted for Obama. I had bet a military person a dollar that Obama would win. He was so seduced by all of the tripe eaters and bullshitters on TV / AM radio that he would giggle every time he saw me so confident was he of a McCain/Palin victory. That being said, he showed himself to be an honorable person and paid up on the bet. I haven't spent the dollar yet. I'm trying to decide what to do with that kind of prosperity. : )
Okie from Muskogee
· 1 year ago
Is it Oklahoma or Oklahomophobia?
Butch1
· 1 year ago
Well done!
tbhull
· 1 year ago
I once lived in OKC for a few years in the mid 90s. At that time a large lesbian population lived there for whatever reason.
Butch1
· 1 year ago
I don't recall ever driving through the state though I have flown over it many times.
dacnova
· 1 year ago
I'm very proud that Virginia voted on the correct side of history.
peacearena
· 1 year ago
Hey, we're not ALL proud of what happened. Some of us are working to bring change to OK. We may be behind, but we're not giving up. Any progressive Okies, please join us at http://groups.google.com/groups/sooner-kos
Remember, Woody Guthrie and Bill Moyers are both from Oklahoma!
Butch1
· 1 year ago
Woody has passed on but I wonder what state Moyers is living in now?! ;-) Sorry, I couldn't pass up a wee bit of humor.
tbhull
· 1 year ago
Moyers resides in Texas I think. Not that much of an Obama state, but more so than Oklahoma where the repub crackers crumble across the plains.
Butch1
· 1 year ago
Thanks. It was a guess that Moyers wouldn't hang around a place that would stifle his creativeness.
Great blog. I used to read him faithfully back around 2000. One of the earliest big political blogs. And he used to refer to his town, I think, as "Knuckle-drag, Oklahoma"! :)
cmoorehead
· 1 year ago
Bart is still dropping the hammer, as he would put it. He does refer to his locale as "K-Drag", as in short for "knuckle-drag". I think it's known as Tulsa to the rest of the world.
His site is still the only political blog I read every day, apart from this one and the infamous Sadly, No! (which skewers the loony-right blogosphere & is a truly surreal experience). Bart's site could use a design makeover, but the content is top notch. Check out the hate mail section, which he refers to as "Monkey Mail".
NiNi
· 1 year ago
I too am proud to be an Oklahoman that voted for Obama. It was a brutal campaign, and I argued with many of my friends on behalf of Obama... lost a lot of respect for them too, as I realized they INTENTIONALLY kept themselves ignorant... watching the McCain-Palin smears work because these peoeple seemed to WANT those smears to work. Very disheartening and disappointing.
With that said, I was also very surprised at the number of adamantly Republican friends that voted for Obama and not McCain. I'd say at LEAST five of my formerly Republican friends wound up supporting Obama, and that's actually an amazing number for "these here parts."
I still drive around town with my Obama-Biden magnet on my car, and feel prouder than ever to be the kind of Oklahoman that the majority of these shit-kickers don't understand. It was also very, VERY fun gloating after having spent two elections in a row being teased and laughed at when "their guy" won *cough* stole the election.
I am also proud to say that I'm leaving this state in the spring, and heading for greener pastures [Portland, Oregon]. This is a tough, tough place in which to live when you're not a Jesus freak. But at least while I was here, I remained a very proud, educated, liberal, open-minded "outsider."
unrepentant_expat
· 1 year ago
True' but if you were to raise kids there, would you recognize what they become? Akin to raising them in a gang fiefdom or a war zone.
Wesinoregon
· 1 year ago
That's what I did. Moved to Oregon. LOVE IT HERE. You will too.
TimRusso
· 1 year ago
total civil war in Ohio GOP. state central committee under seige.
How's their edjumacation? Bet that has something to do with it.
Butch1
· 1 year ago
Well done. The irony of this is that the Okie's will not see themselves as bad in all of this. Oklahoma is a good state to fly over at least until they can join the rest of the world..
enpassant
· 1 year ago
I wish I could understand what's going on with Oklahoma. A reflection of our education?
The media here is very one-sided and talk radio here makes the Pravda seem fair and balanced, it's 24/7 one wing nut after the other. Is that it?
tbhull
· 1 year ago
The problem with Oklahoma is the state has one newspaper owned by a wealthy but completely fucked up nazi cracker KKK republican family know as the Gaylords. Until this family either loses their money or dies one way or another, they control the press in this backward ass state and nothing will change that much.
djchefron
· 1 year ago
I live in Muskogee having relocated from my home of Chicago.I have to say these are some of the nicest people I have ever known,but they are still living in the 19th century and for the foreseeable future wont change.The young are moving away and the old are scared and clinging to their guns and religion.
EllaDisenchanted
· 1 year ago
Sat at a dinner meeting tonight and the men with me could only discuss how Obama is crashing the market and how low it's fallen since he was elected. They didn't use the words "Obama recession" but I could tell they were buying in to it. That they markets haven't responded postively to him as a way to show that the outlook with him in charge is bleak.
EllaDisenchanted
· 1 year ago
forgot to mention I'm in TX. Not sure if we seep north of vice versa.
djchefron
· 1 year ago
Don't get down, we as a country is about to go thru some fundamental changes.There are some who will resist and their voices will be cackling like barnyard animals.They dont matter anymore.They have in 8 years have destroyed our country,financually, militarily and constitutionally.Just tell them to sit down and STFU the adults are in charge.
EllaDisenchanted
· 1 year ago
In a message dated 11/19/2008 9:46:38 PM Central Standard Time, writes:
Don't get down, we as a country is about to go thru some fundamental changes.There are some who will resist and their voices will be cackling like barnyard animals.They dont matter anymore.They have in 8 years have destroyed our country,financually, militarily and constitutionally.Just tell them to sit down and STFU the adults are in charge.
I rely on you people out in reality world to keep reminding me of this. It's so so hard when you are the lone voice (or in this case pair of ears.) These are intelligent educated people who are so blinded by...what?....ideology? I'm not even sure. How can they blame the first 6 years of this presidency on Clinton and the last two on Obama? **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001)
tbhull
· 1 year ago
While these crackers are somewhat dismayed, but not deterred, that they are well behind the rest of the country when it comes to politics, at least they have OU football. However, it could all come crashing down if Texas Tech beats the Sonners' ass this weekend.
Ivee
· 1 year ago
Maybe the next election for Oklahoma?
My thought is, given a year or so, whether or not Obama is able to turn the economy around, he will at least shown that he is willing to try anything. And I do belive that our foreign policy will be better. He's assembling a cabinet and surrounding himself with advisors who are eminently qualified and pragmatic. Is it possible that this new adult-hood in our government might resonate with the populace of Oklahoma in a couple of years? Yes, I do.
So far, so good. President-elect Obama is proving that he's not only a grownup, but he's also proving that he's prepared to hit the ground running and do the very best that he can.
I, for one, take him at his word. I think he's going to do his level best to pull through for us. Maybe in a couple of years, Oklahoma might be comfortable with that too.
Baby steps....
lovepeaceandallthat
· 1 year ago
I am too "young" to remember, but in the 50's-69's wasn't there some kind of organization that sents thousands of young people down south to challenge Jim Crow laws and do good work in the communities? I keep wondering if we could come up with something where we have people (young/old) go to ALL the states with the intention of changing racial bias. Educational, community-oriented, like a peace corp type of thing.
Studies show that it doesn't take long at all for people to change their views about a person of another color/culture/race (I hate that word "race" -- we are all the same human organism damnit). What the studies showed (I think) was that exposure to positive images of the "other" and positive experiences with a person who is from the "other" group caused big changes to occur quite quickly.
Of course, the racists know this and this is why states where whites are quite separate geographically foster racism so readily -- you just keep everyone isolated and keep the racial jokes and insults coming. Keep up the negative and people will be fearful of the "unknown". Change the message, the images, the language, the education -- and most of all foster positive experiences with a diversity of people and the heart of most people melts a bit and the mind expands a bit.
I can't really see how things can change for the better in some states if the younger generations aren't exposed to postiive experiences. It seems like some sort of program could be funded to work on this. Maybe I am dreaming, however. It is time for bed, afterall.
tbhull
· 1 year ago
OOOOOOOOklahoma where the repub crackers crumble across the plains.
Man. It must really suck to live in such an intellectually dark and desolate state. There are a few more laggards that could easily be added to the notorious list: TN, WV, KY, LA, MS, AL, SC, UT and AR immediately come to mind, and there are a few others. Welcome to the 21st century, folks.
tbhull
· 1 year ago
TN, WV, KY, LA, MS, AL, SC, UT and AR?
Careful now atheist boy-antichrist, you are fucking with god's acountry and the real america.
dacnova
· 1 year ago
God is dead. Otherwise, Sarah Palin would still matter. If "god" cared about he GOP, there wouldn't have been a major thuming.
Or, there is a "god" and she's a Democrat.
tbhull
· 1 year ago
You see son this a test. God is testing the believers. The devil will tempt for a while before the second coming as prophesized in the Revelationary, not to be confused with the inflationary.
patp1t
· 1 year ago
Not all us Okies voted red. And what's wierdest about it -- there are more registered Dems in OK than Reps.
I'm positively embarassed to live here!
henrythefifth
· 1 year ago
Brought to you by the people in a state no one wants to live in. :)
MNUSA
· 1 year ago
Oklahoma missed out! But they shouldn't be proud of it. History was made this election and we elected a man who will lead us into the 21st Century. What's to be proud about having both feet planted firmly in the 20th Century?
aliasalias
· 1 year ago
Paris Tx. is near the State line of Okla. (the Red River) and there were protests in the town square this past week over this.. http://www.theparisnews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=5a... yes another 'dragging death'... I dont know how to embed a link here, but there it is...oh yes I should say that half my family are from there in East Tx., the other half from West Tx.(born there myself) but the 'lack of racism' exists only in 'pockets', even Nacogdoches--Univ. town and all, is a LOT of 'good ol' boys' all out there in the woods of East Texas..stay near educated areas of Texas ..its safer.
tbhull
· 1 year ago
My pug Bosley is from Paris, Texas. He is a fawn pug, but I just got another black pug (Gracie) this weekend from a lady from Chickasha (pronounced chick-a-shay and the home of one of the greatest onion burger joints in the country) when I went to my folks for my grandmother's funeral in Boswell.
aliasalias
· 1 year ago
the house our father left my sister and I is 10 miles north of Paris- at Sumner- but near Tigertown area..Mennonite Bakery next door ..the family name is Mitchell, Magnuson, and,Vaughan
tbhull
· 1 year ago
My father's side is from Matoy (no longer a town) just northeast of Durant where we have some land and our family cemetery sits. The family name is Hull and Pettitt. My mother's side is from around Boswell-Soper-Forney-Hugo and the family names there are Ribera (from Mexico) and Walker). My folks live in Durant.
Southeastern Oklahoma is beautiful and isolated.
tbhull
· 1 year ago
Went to school in LeButtocks.
Cryptofascist
· 1 year ago
Well, I suppose it's true that Oklahoma is the only state in which every county went for McCain/Palin... if only because Alaska doesn't have counties; it has BURROUGHS! But all of Alaska's BURROUGHS went for McCain/Palin, so you're only right because of a friggin' TECHNICALITY! That's like saying that the Canada doesn't have any states with whose voters voted primarily for the conservatives in the most recent election... because it has PROVINCES! PALIN in 2012! Aaaarrgggh!!!! Aaaaaggghhhh. Agchkaaglaaaahhh!!
Wesinoregon
· 1 year ago
I'm still glad I moved from OK at 18. Dallas for 32 years wasn't all that great either. Now, Oregon is more like it. Go Sooners though, AND Beavs. Funny that the Longhorns even have to be for OU this weekend to win Big 12 south.
Mollie
· 1 year ago
I remember going through there last year, we parked our 5h wheel in their RV parking lot. If they are so religious, what's with the casino ?
Suzanne Tuthill
· 1 year ago
Could anyone please identify the elderly black woman who said those wonderful words regarding Rosa Parks, MLK Jr and now Obama? Thanks, Suzanne
Dan Cobb
· 1 year ago
Southerners generally are so charming and polite on the outside, but oddly selfish and unconcerned about their communities' well-being other wise. Let's face it, Oklahoma out does even the greedy disreputable state of Texas for schemers, grifters, narcissists and conmen. The entirety of its people seem mixed up in being a victim of a con, or being the conman. The ignorance is so steeped in a phoney religiousity. . . . in a self-defeating "rugged individualism".... in a Darwinian social nastiness that it borders on the primitive. On the asocial. On the pathological. It is true that the dregs of Europe populated the United States . . . the poorest, the least educated, those with the least prospects left and came to America. And it would appear that the least of those immigrants somehow made their way to Oklahoma and Texas. What a dessert of humanity.
reluctanttulsan
· 1 year ago
I agree with Robin on most points. As a native Oklahoman, I am here because of my family, my partner's family, an unwillingness to give up our vested retirement plans and most importantly, my partner's high school-aged daugher who lives here. So, we are here and we deal with it. While both of our families are comletely accepting of our relationship and treat us as a married couple, most of them voted Republican. It just doesn't make sense to me. If my party discriminated against them due to their sex, race, (pick anything) I would stand up for them. Many Oklahoma voters vote on God, Guns, Gays and their own pocketbooks. It's not likely to change, yet I find solace in my midtown neighborhood that was inundated with Obama & Rice for Senate signs.
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Updated every day at 8:00 PM
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I believe the ball's in your court.
LOL.
he's Toilet Boy now!
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!
I live in a rural part of Oregon that was soooo red when I moved here a decade ago, I thought I was the only Dem, the only liberal in town--thankfully, the cities to the West vote so overwhelmingly blue that statewide elections have always been safe. (2004 showed us that there were plenty of us and this year Dems became the majority at least in town!) The thing is, our newspaper is the reactionary voice of the morons--unbearable to read. We shake our heads at the tripe they print. Oklahomans at least have an intelligent voice speaking to them from their newspaper. Maybe eventually they'll read it?
Remember, Woody Guthrie and Bill Moyers are both from Oklahoma!
http://groups.google.com/group/sooner-kos
"there are none so blind as those who will not see"
I have met plenty of thoughtful, intelligent, GOOD
people who hail from all of the States mentioned
in these comments.
and then there's the rest..
Great blog. I used to read him faithfully back around 2000. One of the earliest big political blogs. And he used to refer to his town, I think, as "Knuckle-drag, Oklahoma"! :)
His site is still the only political blog I read every day, apart from this one and the infamous Sadly, No! (which skewers the loony-right blogosphere & is a truly surreal experience). Bart's site could use a design makeover, but the content is top notch. Check out the hate mail section, which he refers to as "Monkey Mail".
With that said, I was also very surprised at the number of adamantly Republican friends that voted for Obama and not McCain. I'd say at LEAST five of my formerly Republican friends wound up supporting Obama, and that's actually an amazing number for "these here parts."
I still drive around town with my Obama-Biden magnet on my car, and feel prouder than ever to be the kind of Oklahoman that the majority of these shit-kickers don't understand. It was also very, VERY fun gloating after having spent two elections in a row being teased and laughed at when "their guy" won *cough* stole the election.
I am also proud to say that I'm leaving this state in the spring, and heading for greener pastures [Portland, Oregon]. This is a tough, tough place in which to live when you're not a Jesus freak. But at least while I was here, I remained a very proud, educated, liberal, open-minded "outsider."
http://bloggerinterrupted.com/2008/11/ohio-gop-...
The media here is very one-sided and talk radio here makes the Pravda seem fair and balanced, it's 24/7 one wing nut after the other. Is that it?
writes:
Don't get down, we as a country is about to go thru some fundamental
changes.There are some who will resist and their voices will be cackling like
barnyard animals.They dont matter anymore.They have in 8 years have destroyed our
country,financually, militarily and constitutionally.Just tell them to sit
down and STFU the adults are in charge.
I rely on you people out in reality world to keep reminding me of this.
It's so so hard when you are the lone voice (or in this case pair of ears.)
These are intelligent educated people who are so blinded by...what?....ideology?
I'm not even sure. How can they blame the first 6 years of this
presidency on Clinton and the last two on Obama?
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My thought is, given a year or so, whether or not Obama is able to turn the economy around, he will at least shown that he is willing to try anything. And I do belive that our foreign policy will be better. He's assembling a cabinet and surrounding himself with advisors who are eminently qualified and pragmatic. Is it possible that this new adult-hood in our government might resonate with the populace of Oklahoma in a couple of years? Yes, I do.
So far, so good. President-elect Obama is proving that he's not only a grownup, but he's also proving that he's prepared to hit the ground running and do the very best that he can.
I, for one, take him at his word. I think he's going to do his level best to pull through for us. Maybe in a couple of years, Oklahoma might be comfortable with that too.
Baby steps....
Studies show that it doesn't take long at all for people to change their views about a person of another color/culture/race (I hate that word "race" -- we are all the same human organism damnit). What the studies showed (I think) was that exposure to positive images of the "other" and positive experiences with a person who is from the "other" group caused big changes to occur quite quickly.
Of course, the racists know this and this is why states where whites are quite separate geographically foster racism so readily -- you just keep everyone isolated and keep the racial jokes and insults coming. Keep up the negative and people will be fearful of the "unknown". Change the message, the images, the language, the education -- and most of all foster positive experiences with a diversity of people and the heart of most people melts a bit and the mind expands a bit.
I can't really see how things can change for the better in some states if the younger generations aren't exposed to postiive experiences. It seems like some sort of program could be funded to work on this. Maybe I am dreaming, however. It is time for bed, afterall.
Boll weevils leaving Oklahoma
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4182/is...
Careful now atheist boy-antichrist, you are fucking with god's acountry and the real america.
Or, there is a "god" and she's a Democrat.
I'm positively embarassed to live here!
http://www.theparisnews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=5a...
yes another 'dragging death'... I dont know how to embed a link here, but there it is...oh yes I should say that half my family are from there in East Tx., the other half from West Tx.(born there myself) but the 'lack of racism' exists only in 'pockets', even Nacogdoches--Univ. town and all, is a LOT of 'good ol' boys' all out there in the woods of East Texas..stay near educated areas of Texas ..its safer.
Southeastern Oklahoma is beautiful and isolated.
Thanks,
Suzanne