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AMERICAblog: Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid - Where the fuck are you?

  • sherifffruitfly · 1 year ago
    Clinton is praying to god to get saved by the bell - limit the number of people who respond today, and let Memorial Day amnesia set in for the weekend.
  • starrpower · 1 year ago
    I already sent Nancy Polosi and Diane Feinstein emails. Everyone should do it. I live in California so maybe they will actually pay attention to it but who knows. I am so tired of both of them. This must stop.
  • ClintonHater · 1 year ago
    They'll wait till after the last primary, otherwise Billary will complain not everyone had a chance to vote, which will make all of her supporters angry at the party. I am sure they want to come out, but they have to wait till after the last primary. I'm not going to hold it against them.
  • starrpower · 1 year ago
    They could at least come out and condemn the comments from today.
  • ClintonHater · 1 year ago
    Then all of her supporters will cry and whine and say the party is against them and that they are shilling for Obama. they really do have their hands tied on this one. They just have to wait until they have cover.
  • Coming Undone · 1 year ago
    Hillary is just going to play the victim and cry sexism. She is already trying to say there has been a conspiracy to get her out of the race since Iowa.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    June being the month for assassinations.

    Modern Bride's featured article for June highlites Mannlicher Carbine must-haves...
  • jr · 1 year ago
    The lives of our servicemen and women are at stake. McCain will send them to Iran to feel more butch after seeing his man-boobs in the bathroom mirror every morning. Either get the superdelegates to make up their mind or scrap the system altogether
  • sfbayani · 1 year ago
    I love your passion and your guts, man!
    Keep on pushing for Billary to go away ...
  • devis1 · 1 year ago
    Another take...
    The analogy to 1968 actually is somewhat accurate, in the sense that in June, 1968 Hubert Humphrey was far more likely than Robert Kennedy to get the nomination. And I'm sure that's what Clinton had in mind; ie, that she, not Obama, is playing the role of Kennedy here.

    Still: bad idea.

    —Jonathan Schwarz
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Whether by defect of character or by unspecified psychiatric condition, Hillary Clinton has ZERO CREDIBILITY.
  • chandler_in_lasvegas · 1 year ago
    Harry is going to sit tight because if she gets back to the Senate, guess what job she'll be a wantin'? Howardf Dean has no balls. And Nancy Pelosi has nothing to gain by stepping in.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    She apologized to the Kennedy's--as she should have---but not to Obama.

    What an evil little man.
  • martha · 1 year ago
    She says she is waiting for Obama to be assassinated and then she apologizes to the Kennedys NOT Obama! I'm sick.
  • rednose · 1 year ago
    Pelosi is my Congresswoman. I've held off contacting her about this, but after seeing this video I thought, ENOUGH! I called her SF office today after reading this. I spoke with someone who sounded very young, but she was also very thorough, taking notes and confirming who I am and where I live. We spoke for several minutes, and she told me that my comments would get to the Speaker. I emphasized that in all of my circles--employees, colleagues, friends, most people that I know at this point support Obama and that we are getting very concerned that we are not hearing anything from the top party leaders about this, and that it is time to start declaring or denying support, as the case may be.
  • starrpower · 1 year ago
    I called Diane Feinstein's office and received the same treatment and I also keep sending her emails. I don't know what else to do. She is a committed delegate so I don't know what she can do but she could condemn the statement today.
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    She can switch. Others have. The superdelegates are not committed until they actually vote at the convention, as Clinton so often reminds us. I saw something somewhere else that Feinstein is now pushing the nightmare ticket.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Should she get the nomination and then win don't you just know she'll insist upon wearing white to the Inaugural...
  • HelenaMontana · 1 year ago
    Howard Dean used to have balls. I guess running the DNC, (which must stand for Democratic No-balls Castrati) must have just ground them down.
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    There have been numerous times during the campaign when Hillary has blurted out the race baiting comments, the white working people crap. When called on it her defenders cry that she is tired. Well you know what, when you are tired your defences are down and I think you tend to be totally honest as a result. So she is tired, and is hanging around to profit from a potential assassination. Unfortunately there are enough nut cases out there (West Virginia and Kentucky to recent examples of open racism) who might just think it is not a bad idea. It is now 7:30pm and to have heard absolutely nothing from the turds in the DNC or the Washington Dems Dean, Pelosi and Reid is more than disappointing. It tends to confirm my belief they don't want change either. That maybe having Hillary is better for their bank accounts.
    You know Terry McCauliffe said something along the same theme a week or so ago. You know they have been talking about it in the smoke filled rooms. The Clintons are despicable, low life, vicious, self indulging turds. They lack even a trace of decency and exhibit no pride or ethics by continuing this thing they call letting all the people vote.
  • starrpower · 1 year ago
    I am also trying to be patient with the Obama camp. I know they want to take the high road and I know in my head that they know what their doing but my heart and my gut needs something really strong from them. It's probably not the right thing but it's how I feel. As for the Dem leaders, I have so very disappointed in all of them, especially Diane Feinstein and her support for AG Mucasey and her statement today that Hillary should be VP. I guess I'm just getting tired too. who know what I will say when I'm tired.
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    I understand the instinct; I also want lightning bolts from the Obama campaign.

    But if we are trusting Obama to deliver on the hope thing, which is a leap of faith, then surely we can trust what he thinks he needs to do to get to the presidency.

    Intelligence, inspiration, inclusion, ethical behavior, calm demeanor, dignity...steady on.
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Yes, she is less vigilant about editing her statements in a sleep deprived state and the Freudian slips are as inevitable as they are revealing.

    Poor Hillary is just a victim of her own unconscious mind.
  • bunnyjump · 1 year ago
    Let them not forget - THEY WORK FOR US! Let the voters revolt!

    I say we tell them to wrap up this thing - or they themselves will be voted out of office!

    I'd love to replace the status quo with some true progressives anyway, the current Dems have no balls. We need more Feingolds and Webbs to get real change!
  • lucky hussein · 1 year ago
    Go JA go :)
  • scooter in brooklyn · 1 year ago
    howard dean rocks. he'll have his say when he thinks the time is right. as will madame pelosi.

    we can wait until june 4 without getting hysterical.
  • BoiseNick · 1 year ago
    It sucks to admit , but Democrats ALWAYS find a way to make a train-wreck More fucked UP than when it started !

    I'm so damnfucking depressed and so PISSED at my self for defending that DickHead Bubba from Impeachment !!!!!!! Burn in HELL , Bill & Hill .

    thank father/mother God I have the super exciting F1 race in Monaco and the Indy 500 to take my mind offa spineless and useless Democratic "leaders" !
  • lucky hussein · 1 year ago
    Not after RFK won Cal, which he did THAT night. This is a response to devis1
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Hillary shot herself in the foot, today.

    Be grateful.
  • BoiseNick · 1 year ago
    I agree , DJ , , ,

    I am thankful that ,

    Clinton is such a desperate IDIOT that she killed her OWN campaign .

    Whata SEXIST she is !
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    Time magazine has Hillary's earlier comment on assassination.

    http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/05/hill...

    Hillary's Bizarre RFK Comment
    Posted by Karen Tumulty | Comments (52) | Permalink | Trackbacks (0) | Email This

    Though she has now apologized for that very strange and tasteless comment to the Argus-Leader, this was not the first time she's said it. This from her interview with TIME Managing Editor Richard Stengel, published March 6:

    TIME: Can you envision a point at which--if the race stays this close--Democratic Party elders would step in and say, "This is now hurting the party and whoever will be the nominee in the fall"?


    CLINTON: No, I really can't. I think people have short memories. Primary contests used to last a lot longer. We all remember the great tragedy of Bobby Kennedy being assassinated in June in L.A. My husband didn't wrap up the nomination in 1992 until June. Having a primary contest go through June is nothing particularly unusual.

    Her excuse now is that the Kennedys have been "much on my mind these days" with the illness of Senator Edward Kennedy, but that doesn't explain what brought it to mind more than two months ago.

    There is a pattern like her Bosnia comments repeated then denied or saying they were misunderstood or they were spoken when she was tired. No Hillary you really are nothing more than a fatally flawed, self indulgent shrew.
  • KISSman · 1 year ago
    While I would alsolutely welcome the dynamic trio finally doing what is right and endorsing Obama, I really think these three should be working the phones and emploring others to unify behind Obama pronto.

    I especially think that Dean should be calling those DNC cowards right now and get them to unite behind Obama ASAP. There should not be such a long list of these folks out there at this point. It makes a little more sense for elected officials to do so, but not DNC members.

    Argh... Killary is absolutely repulsive.
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    They're all at their weekend houses with the TV off for the Memorial Day Weekend... OR: perhaps unbeknownst to us, the senior Party leaders are conferring to effectively coordinate a response and demand she exit the stage. OR: they may be in a total state of numbed, incapacitated shock at the shitstorm that's forming offshore. I'm thinking #3.
  • johnosahon · 1 year ago
    Michelle has been warning us about hillary since this "eye opening" election started, we did not listen to her till a few months ago.

    hillary better STAY CLEAR of Michelle if she knows what good forher.
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    "fuck"? You mean "frack"?
  • ikonoklast · 1 year ago
    Actually, I'm kind of liking this. As Clinton becomes even more insane by the minute, she's going to start losing the support of any potential allies in her coming gambit for the nomination or the VP or whatever she wants.

    Let her go totally batshit nuts. Then she'll be in no position to leverage anything from anyone. Nobody is going to support nominating a lunatic for VP much less the presidency.
  • econt · 1 year ago
    Just emailed them and uncommitted super's in my state - let's end this.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    lynchie, back in March all of Clinton's racist appeals to white voters hadn't been revealed yet. And the comment today, on top of Huckleberry's poor "joke" about Obama being assassinated, was just too much for me.

    I was around in 68, and believe me, it radicalized me far more than it must have Ms. Rodham who had been a recent convert to democracy, having been a Goldwater Girl a few years earlier.
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    I remember clearly both assassinations. JFK's is as vivid today as the day it happened. Bobby's my parent's had prepared me for. My Mom said something bad would happen to Robert. Invoking even the memory of the assassinations without the context that Hillary used it in was bad. Imagining that she is hanging around to capitalize on the same fate for Obama smacks of delusional, angry and desperate. That people even think in terms of assassinations regardless of race scares the living bejezzus out of me.
  • TimRusso · 1 year ago
    interview with batshit crazy cynthia ruccia of Clinton Supporters Count Too.

    http://bloggerinterrupted.com/2008/05/interview...
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Funny that she's wearing Mary Kay pink in her photo.

    She's just a promoter---you can tell.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Um....I mean "self-promoter"
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    Pelosi: Someone call me? huh? Oh, I'm setting the table. Impeachment. Oh, no that's off the table, remember? I stopped that to make sure a Democrat becomes President. What's that? huh? That woman said what about RFK assassination what? And that is going to ruin our chances of taking the White House. Ah, are you sure? So if we don't get the White House presidency maybe I should put impeachment back on the table? huh, I'm confused, I'm in San Francisco right now, can I get back to you later? I am having a fabulous party right now with all the Bay Area wealthy people. You certainly don't want me to work now do you?
  • huttongd · 1 year ago
    I'm all for Democrat in the White House, be it Clinton or Obama, but does it really matter? The Dems can't manage to do anything anyway . . . just look at Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and Congress' record . . . what have they done for us lately?
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    I love Howard Dean and his 50 state strategy. Those other so-called congressional leaders are worthless POS's. It felt VERY good to vote for Shirley Golub instead of Pelosi on my mail-in ballot yesterday.
  • sherifffruitfly · 1 year ago
    If this doesn't get the SD's, then the only reasonable conclusion is that the fix is in.
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    Keith Olberman is on!
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Dean, Pelosi and Reid know perfectly well that the rule governed party mechanisms will shut her down in due course.

    Hillary is doomed.

    Recite this mantra daily.
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    She has had the Dean moment and now it is over, her big mistake and its over. All done, finished.
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    I believe she has had the assassination of Obama on her mind for sometime.
    She is unfit to be President.
  • johnosahon · 1 year ago
    COME ON NOW john, you know, she did not mean it, you know,she did not mean it AS FAR AS I KNOW.
  • PhoenixWoman · 1 year ago
    Ah, yes, "as far as I know".
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    The Superdelegates have to end this farce.
  • johnosahon · 1 year ago
    HILARY HAS TO RENOUNCE AND REJECT HERSELF.
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    It needs to be emphasized time and again that today was NOT the first time she insinuated the idea of Obama's assassination as a reason for staying in (Olbermann did note the Time Magazine interview at the top of the hour, but no one can "give her the benefit of the doubt" since she's said it before).
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Unconscious content is a bitch.
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    Good--Douglas Brinkley smartly assesses the magnitude of HRC's "gaffe" for Olbermann: she is finished, truly finished.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Brinkley just mentioned the Time piece on Olbermann's show.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    She's just an angry little man in a bad leisure suit.
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    Brinkley is knocking it out of the park, your'e gone Hillary....
  • Andrew A. Gill · 1 year ago
  • debrazza · 1 year ago
    I do think that is funny that Hillary should "Denounce and Reject!" herself. But I appreciate the current tone on Countdown right now. They are having a funeral for her campaign and her political career and rightly they should. It is over for her. It is all over. And thank god it ended like this because no one can blame this on mysogyny. Well, some will try, they are delusional enough but it is not an argument to be believed.

    The fact of the matter is that the Obama campaign, the media and us have put up with her campaign for a long time. We have humored it along. But it is clear now that there is nothing more to humor. There is nothing more to find any redemption in.
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    I loved it when Howard Fineman said that someone should put this campaign out of its misery. The parallels with Eight Belles just keep coming.
  • gonzalez · 1 year ago
    When are we going to realize that the democratic leadership is a failure. These people don't have the guts to call it. It is the same month after month with the Iraq war. NO COJONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • devis1 · 1 year ago
    What was that cracking sound when Keith Olbermann started talking? Weird--hope they explain.
  • AngelaChanning · 1 year ago
    That was scary indeed.
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    What the hell was it? It looked like it surprised him. My guess is he was so pissed he broke his pencil in half.
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Hillary just may be the reincarnation of Elmer Fudd.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Why does anyone think Pelosi or Reid can lead?
  • devis1 · 1 year ago
    Think they should move Keith to a windowless studio.
  • dad · 1 year ago
    this needs to CHANGE

    same isn't doing shit
  • RickTaylor · 1 year ago
    Actually, I have to say, the hands off strategy of letting her self-destruct has been more effective than I ever would have imagined.
  • dad · 1 year ago
    Howard, Nancy and Harry
    it is not the best we got.
    (taken either way)
  • Ginger_FL · 1 year ago
    Olberman took Hillbot to the Woodshed and BEAT HER ASS !!!!!!!!!

    That sound scared the crap out of me...not sure what that was about...

    Looks like Hillbot might be planning and EXIT strategy !!!!

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/23/dems.vp/...

    CNN) -- Several close friends and supporters of Sen. Hillary Clinton said they are seeking a "graceful exit strategy" for Clinton from the race for the Democratic nomination, possibly as part of a joint ticket for the White House.
  • warsaw · 1 year ago
    So much for a "graceful exit strategy" for our girl. Pelosi, Reid and Dean are trying to figure out how to get the bag over her head so they can tie her up and throw her out into the gutter. They're talking to Bill who is still justifying her behavior which is really humiliating to the whole Clinton gang and will even guarantee that Chelsea will never have a public role and will be unheard of again until her tiny obituary in the Times in 2067. Bill wants Hillary to keep going. He's like the jockey of that horse who kept riding her even though she shattered her two front ankles. Bill wants back into the whitehouse so bad that he's compromised all of the values we appreciated him for: his equanimity, his judgment, his shrewdness, his centeredness. They're all gone and now Hillary is cracked and broken. Oh woe is me! Hillary is making Olivia Soprano seem benign.
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    Bill has a lot of potential money riding on getting Hillary into the White House. He made $109 million as an influence pedlar during the Bush years, and I'm sure he thought the money would be unlimited with her in the presidency, and any hint of wrong-doing or scandal could immediately be squelched. They might be better off with McCain than Obama if she can't win because Obama isn't going to line their pockets. It's about money as much as power and ambition.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Hillary Clinton just shot her own campaign in the head.
  • Tyke · 1 year ago
    ALL DELEGATES - super and pledged are on the table. Clinton herself proclaimed this earlier.

    Call, email whatever any and all delegates that you may have any influence with and ask then to reject and denounce in the most emphatic manner possible - by announcing their support for Obama!
  • heathwood · 1 year ago
    Joe Lieberman has messed with them and so far has won, no doubt Clinton thinks she can do the same.
  • PhoenixWoman · 1 year ago
    Don't worry, John. This is all for the best.

    Hillary's in the manic-scorpion phase, where she lashes out and flails and generally alienates even the die-hards.

    This is necessary. If she isn't allowed to see this through to its psychotic conclusion, a non-trivial number of women might still buy the whole "she wuz robbed!" argument. But not after she keeps doing things that even the folks at MyDD and TalkLeft are forced to deplore.

    No, let her flail away. Each truly stupid comment by her turns away more of her supporters -- and sends another chunk of delegates into Obama's camp. It will be over soon, and it will be obvious to all that she wasn't forced out, but holed her own campaign below the waterline.
  • lovepeaceandallthat · 1 year ago
    I agree to an extent, but what about the lasting damage? What is... something... happens to Obama? I worry.
  • lovepeaceandallthat · 1 year ago
    Maybe we could organize a last-minute national protest of sorts. We can't depend on the DNC, and certainly not the media. A national UPRISING demanding that we won't allow for this kind of dirty politics, NOT THIS TIME! Obama's statement said something like "this should be no part of the election".

    The spirit of our response could remain positive, yet forceful. Perhaps gathering in every city and town on ... Sunday? ... oh, wait, it is a holiday this weekend. Damn.

    Well, we need an uprising... online or othewise.... she is so out of control. She will NOT stop doing this shit. The political insiders are too close to all of this, and they live in a bubble anyway. It is up to us!!!!

    She has pushed this to the point of forcing us to say "get the fuck out of here", which technically is wrong in the sense that, yes, she does have the right to stay in. But one of the taglines on a dailykos commenter seems relevant now: "Politics isn't math, it's chemistry". The chemistry changed today. We can force her hand, if we act with unity and force.

    The problem is that Obama won't condone any sort of protest in the streets aimed at "yelling" at Hillary. But that isn't his role, his role is to remain above the fray (he is soooo good at that!). It is our role to take to the streets and demand change. We need to get a real spirit of "NO MORE SHIT! WE WILL NOT PUT UP WITH THIS SORT OF CAMPAIGN, ELECTION, OR PRESIDENCY! NOT THIS TIME!!!"
  • warsaw · 1 year ago
    Large, widespread National protests won't happen, they're sort of obsolete as a tactic, a remnant of a pre-internet populace. What might e effective would be a protest outside of where the DNC is meeting to decide about the Fla and Mi primaries. It's said that Hillary's campaign is planning a demonstration. Our side can out think them in both the size and manner of a counter protest. The Clintons loaded up the rules committee with their loyalists like Alexis Herman and her girl gang. It should be a snap to create a suitable meme which will make the Clintons look like amoral thugs tying to encourage the unbalanced psychos among their followers to commit ASSASSINATION. Best of all it would be true.
  • lovepeaceandallthat · 1 year ago
    Yeah, I agree that protests are ineffective -- usually. It is an art, I think, and they can be employed effectively, if done right. But anyway....

    I guess that is a good idea to have a counter-protest on May 31st, but the media will cover it as *protesters* competing with each other. Doesn't really change the game.

    I was thinking that a nation-wide protest would be a bit unique -- getting LOTS of towns and cities (neighborhoods?) -- having a simultaneous protest with the same message. But, it isn't going to happen this weekend, so the idea is moot.

    I just think the internet does have it's limits. For one thing, the MSM doesn't cover the blogs and such. They couldn't give a crap if we sent a billion emails to the DNC, for example. But, they would cover a coordinated nationwide protest, I think. How could they not? It makes good video! Ratings, ratings. Of course, they will twist and misrepresent and smear the protesters but that is the price we pay for playing to the media.

    Just my thoughts....
  • bachelard · 1 year ago
    More proof that Hillary is "dividing the party!" She makes a stupid comment and everyone on Americablog goes bananas. You're seizing on it as another opportunity to demonize her and to argue for her expulsion by the party leaders. But in the big picture, it's a freakin' blip, like Obama's quip about "typical whites."

    Take you meds, people. It's coming to an end. This is part of the process. Try to hold on. I know it's hard not to break out the pitchforks and torches when you feel impatient, but it might be of value to let things end in their time.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Wrong again.
  • Savage8862 · 1 year ago
    John I think you are becoming a little obsessed with getting Hillary out of the race...almost to the point of becoming comical. Your tirades only embolden the enemy ( Clinton) into staying in the race. Let everyone vote and after that last primary which will for once and for all prove to everyone Obama is the nominee, then start trying to force elected officials in the Democratic party to stand up and force her out. Until then, take some blood pressure medicine and sit back and watch her kill any chance of becoming President ever! She is being rude, obnoxious, and only thinking of herself. People will finally realize this and she won't have a political future.
  • devis1 · 1 year ago
    The only way 'people will finally realize this" is for John and others like him to voice their outrage.