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AMERICAblog: Huge computer virus may hit tomorrow, April 1

  • Ben Dover · 9 months ago
    Hi Guys -
    I picked this up late last week. Here's what happened:

    There was a pop up window that showed up in the lower left hand corner of the screen. It read: Windows Security Alert (If I had read the message on the screen I would have been alerted that the language was off, left out words and constructed very poorly, but I didn't. I clicked on it believing it was a MicroSoft Security Alert. Of course it was not.
    Within seconds the worm had complete control over the pc, every 30 seconds more popup windows would appear telling me how infected the pc was, it also tried to sell me bogus spyware removal for $49.95 USD, of course.

    I located the worm deep within the "hidden" files of the pc under "temp" files, not temporary internet files, but "temp" files. The worm was named "Fuck3.exe". I tried to remove it myself with available software, but when right-clicked for removal the worm broke up into at least 10 different files that were unidentifiable and impossible (for me) to locate.

    I tried for over 24 hours to remove this thing, but it wouldn't allow any spyware/malware to complete the process.
    I eventually gave up and tried to reinstall the pc OS but even it could not over ride the worm.

    LSS - Had to replace the pc and am now fully(?) protected. Infected pc is sidelined and later I'll try to restore once again or replace the hard drive.
    Get the fixes that John suggests and run them NOW. I also went directly to the MicroSoft site and didn't trust any of the ones that were in the update file.
    Good luck.
  • therepguy · 9 months ago
    Apple's Mac's unaffected!

    When will the PC community learn and change to the Mac!
  • SINGING_TROLL · 9 months ago
    Hey, it's not like it can't be done....
    Stay humble my Mac compatriot! :-)
  • Asterix · 9 months ago
    It isn't that Macs can't be infected with viruses (those automatic security updates to OS X should be a hint). It's that PCs are a much larger segment of the installed base, and hence more lucrative territory for malware.

    (I use OS X, FreeBSD, Linux and Windows on a daily basis)
  • Older_Wiser · 9 months ago
    When I first read about this a couple of weeks ago, the article said that personal computers would not necessarily be infected, that the originators of this worm were going after business computers. Speculation about where it originated, some say China, others not so sure.
  • maudgonne · 9 months ago
    Government computers also.
    First note said that NATO was totally compromised....
  • devis1 · 9 months ago
    Gee, I hope you trust Bradford!! Norton/Symantec says to beware of links offering free protection as they are infected.
  • eclecticbrotha · 9 months ago
    The links Bradford provided are to McAfee, makes of a well known virus software for home and office use. I use the software and Stinger has been their way of providing standalone virus killers for years.
  • devis1 · 9 months ago
    As long as the links really go to McAfee. I'm sure these do but beware is the word for the day.
  • John Aravosis · 9 months ago
    Before even posting this, I, of course, googled mcafee, then went to their site via the google link, then clicked on the page dealing with conficker, and then copied the link to the program directly, to ensure that Bradford was a good cookie. And he was. And is :-)
  • devis1 · 9 months ago
    I expected nothing less!!! I'm going to raid my pantry for double chocolate milanos now.
  • timncguy · 9 months ago
    it's kind of unsettling that the link provided for the stinger install comes up with a security warning before you run it stating that the publisher can't be verified.

    If this is legit, why wouldn't it be able to be verified?
  • anastasjoy · 9 months ago
    What should Mac users do?
  • KCProgramr · 9 months ago
    Mac and Linux users don't need to worry. This virus only affects Windows systems.
  • therepguy · 9 months ago
    Nothing... Macs are unaffected!

    There are reasins you switched to a Mac... this is one of them!

    Have fun with your somewhat new Mac and welcome to our growing Mac community!
  • anastasjoy · 9 months ago
    I didn't switch to Mac; I've never used anything else since I first used a computer in 1990. Well, actually, I did for a short time last fall on my temporary job, and I hated it.
  • ndtovent · 9 months ago
    We're in a mac environment where I work. The only thing I actually like about it is that fact - that macs are less prone to worms, viruses, etc. Other than that. pffft! I have a windows desktop at home and much prefer that environment.
  • John Aravosis · 9 months ago
    Read a book.

    Drink a fine wine.

    Watch the sunset.

    Listen to a child laugh.

    :-)
  • cowboyneok · 9 months ago
    Its a damned shame we can't get the nefarious authors of computer viruses to apply their energy and genius to doing something productive like destroying Talibangelicals and the Republican party.
  • jcgraham77 · 9 months ago
    Why don't the hackers focus on important things like pay-porn sites. They could hack them and link my computer to them all day long. I wouldn't complain.
  • Webster · 9 months ago
    At the place where I volunteer there are 5 computers with Norton installed. I am a complete digital diplodocus--but I know more than any of the others (which is scary).

    I checked to see if all the computers had the latest updates from Norton--all but one did, but I updated it. I'm sure Norton is on top of this--but can anyone tell me if there's anything else I should do? If there is, I'm a complete idiot on these things, I could use some help (a link perhaps that speaks in clear English) so I can make sure everything's safe. I looked at the info posted above, but the jargon is a bit above me, I'm afraid.
  • Webster · 9 months ago
    Wow. Couldn't be more grateful for all the helpful tips...
  • oldtree · 9 months ago
    When will people give up using a flawed system that will wipe out your data or you because the makers of the software are incompetent when it comes to protecting the product?

    Sounds like much of the US economy doesn't it? You only get rewarded for failure. Get an Apple and forget this nonsense. There has never been a virus or worm. It's made by people that want you to have a working computer without issue. There is no virus software made for the Apple. Does that give you a hint?

    And you beware of the companies that make virus protection. That is a conspiracy to make your computer fail, so you have to buy their new virus protection every other disaster.
  • ndtovent · 9 months ago
    umm.... yes there is...Semantec and a couple of other companies have antivirus sw for macs - they DO succumb to hacking breeches occasionally. It's happened here at my office - albeit just a couple of times in 7 years. never say never.
  • Bryan J Blumberg · 9 months ago
    Mr. Aravosis: Of course it is a "Windows Virus". Is there any other? Everybody knows that Macs don't get viruses.
  • Styve · 9 months ago
    nevermind...
  • Steve · 9 months ago
    I downloaded the removal tool. Before I run this thing I want to be sure. If I have the worm, it would remove it? If it doesn't find it, it means I don't have it?

    Thanks
  • Pat Connors · 9 months ago
    What happened after it finish the scan. I got a list of this list: W32/Conficker
    W32/Conficker.gen
    W32/Conficker.sys
    W32/Conficker.worm
    W32/Conficker.worm!inf
    W32/Conficker.worm!job
    W32/Conficker.worm.dr
    W32/Conficker.worm.gen.a
    W32/Conficker.worm.gen.b
    W32/Conficker.worm.gen.c
    W32/Conficker.worm.gen.dconficker worm

    But I don't know whether the program was just naming the different worms or I am infected. I spoke to Zone Alarms which I use and they say I am okay. They are issuing updates this afternoon and tomorrow morning, however.
  • John Aravosis · 9 months ago
    You may have clicked the button on the program that simply lists what viruses it can catch. If you ran the program, and it searched through your files, and once it finished the screen was basically blank, then you're fine. Meaning, you only saw this list AFTER you click another button hunting around, right?
  • Captain Future · 8 months ago
    I did this scan three times today--more than an hour each time--and kept getting the above list. Finally I figured out it must be the list of viruses this application is scanning for. It says it is looking for 11, and there are 11 in this list. So it isn't a list of viruses it found on your computer, I don't think.

    Yet another case of possibly a great application but with lack of clarity. The Microsoft page you reference is even worse.
  • John Aravosis · 9 months ago
    The link is from McAfee, one of the BIG anti-virus companies. So I can't tell you exactly what their link does - but my amateur understanding is that this program searches for the virus, and if it finds it, it will attempt to repair the problem.
  • Lynne · 9 months ago
    The Mac is less prone to viruses because it's far less important. Mass attacking a Mac is like deciding Iceland is the key country to take over in a world war. Sorry, but it's true.

    Now, there may be something to accusation of Windows being a shoddier product, and Macs having a more solid and secure OS, but the fact is that is largely *untested* in the real world. What in their right mind would want to bother to attack Macs?

    I like Macs and work on PCs. Each has advantages and disadvantages. I can't afford Macs for my business, a big negative, and when a Mac crashes (which admittedly is rare, but it happens) and the sh*t hits the fan you canNOT get under that hood, you have to take it to the expensive Mac store. When my PC does something loopy, I can usually fix it myself, or else my husband can. On the other hand, the popularity of PCs means more viruses and spyware, and the software requires far too much patching than is strictly good for it. And MS office products are too expensive and bloatware.

    Stop thinking that your computer is a personal lifestyle choice. It's a tool, and you pick the right tool for the right job. If you start taking these things personally, you're basically a fool for falling for the clever marking ploys of both companies. I'd rather not be brainwashed.

    As for me, I so rarely have virus troubles on my PC - and NOT for lack of internet surfing. I keep my free virus ware very updated, patch immediately when I need to, and have sane but not overly restrictive firewalls. Anyone who tells you the virus software companies are committing conspiracy to sell you their product is crazy. I use and recommend AVG but honestly, the hackers are out there every day creating viruses and the scanner software people are out there every day looking for ways to stop them. I'm not saying they aren't out to make money but for heaven's sake people.
  • Lynne · 9 months ago
    * Unless Iceland really is strategerily important. But you get the drift.
  • johnsonFamily · 9 months ago
    I think Lynn meant the metaphorical "hood." As in, no way actually into the OS. I'll never forget when I was told I had just heard "the chimes of doom" on my not-very-old nor well-used Mac FX. They hadn't put anything about that into the slick white manual with all the oh-so-cool blank pages that were so common in Mac manuals circa 1890.

    When I get around my Mac friends, long time, old friends, I often wonder why they didn't just become Scientologists or something.
  • ComradeRutherford · 9 months ago
    "when a Mac crashes ... you canNOT get under that hood, you have to take it to the expensive Mac store."

    That was in 1986 when it took a special long-TORX driver to get in to one. And even then I've taken my Mac Plus apart to re-solder the main harness junction blocks. It still works like new, running System 6.0.8.

    I have several Apple laptops, the top-of-the-line models 1999, 2001, 2005 and 2007. Aside from the 2007, I completely take them apart whenever I need to, I've replaced hard drives, installed custom wireless antennas, even replaced the LCD screen. And by learning UNIX, I can completely control my computer's software.

    So what the heck are you talking about?
  • Bradford · 9 months ago
    Thanks guys and good luck with this.
    Nice to know I'm a good cookie ;) I prefer to think of myself as a ThinMint.
  • cowboyneok · 9 months ago
    If you are a Thin Mint... You are going into the ice box! Love them frozen!

    I haven't had my Peanut Butter Patty fix, or whatever they are calling them now.
  • cowboyneok · 9 months ago
    Thanks for the link to the "Stinger app" Ran it, and updated everything. I'm feeling confident now.
  • ComradeRutherford · 9 months ago
    BWA-Hahahahahahaha!!! Windows! What a great scam Gates perpetrated on the world - stealing someone else's hard work on an OS and market it as his own invention. He's tricked 90% of computer users in the world into thinking Windows is any good at all. So many people are completely un-aware that using a computer doesn't have to be 90% frustrating.

    I use a Mac because I use my computer to make my living. I can't afford to have my OS second guess me every two minutes, or go down with a virus, or needing the hard drive wiped and everything re-installed every so often. My computer just works.
  • benb · 9 months ago
    The 60 minutes interview totally missed an important point: Why does Symantec have to provide security updates every *day*? We are supposed to accept the idea that computers are inherently vulnerable to computer viruses and worms?

    I suppose I'm not surprised since neither Leslie Stahl nor the Symantec guy bothered to note that Mac OS X and Linux are unaffected. Windows spokesmen, if they do, usually make the limp claim that other operating systems aren't targeted because they don't have the market share---yeah, FUD you.

    The bar is pretty low for MS Windows users....you wouldn't know how low unless you normally used Linux or Mac OS X.
  • DavidinPS · 9 months ago
    Of course it didn't take long for this to become YET ANOTHER tiresome Mac/PC discussion.

    Give it a rest, people.
  • jharp · 9 months ago
    I'm infected and I'll be damed if I can find the free removal tool at McCaffee.

    Please help. And thanks in advance.
  • John Aravosis · 9 months ago
  • ezpz · 9 months ago
    When I click on the link, I get this from Google Chrome:

    "This type of file can harm your computer. Are you sure you want to download Stinger_Coficker.exe?"

    Yes, "Coficker" not "conficker" as your link says.

    Was I redirected away from the 'good' site?

    Edit: Never mind. I went to the McAfee site and I think, I HOPE I'm okay.
  • Amaliada · 9 months ago
    So, I live in Greece and I changed the toggle bar on Microsoft (which I can only access through Explorer although I only use Mozilla!) to Greece and it changed everything into Greek. There are a lot of English-only speakers (readers, etc.) in Greece. Damn this is so frustrating. I only have a PC because no one in the small town I live in knows how to service a Mac (they do need service once in a while). Got any advice?
  • mellowjohn · 9 months ago
    yeah, stay with your PC. that way macs won't become a big enough target for hackers, etc. to mess with.
  • John Aravosis · 9 months ago
    lol
  • athenap · 8 months ago
    Most Ubuntu Linux distros are very international-friendly, with users groups and forums in native languages all over. Kubuntu Linux has a beautiful interface and does just about everything (and indeed everything, with wine) windows/mac can do...except get hit by viruses. ;)

    http://ubuntu-gr.org/
  • Scott · 9 months ago
    PCs are just fine. If you don't want viruses on your PC, then don't surf the web on an admin account. Set up a limited account!
  • benb · 9 months ago
    I don't believe that's true. Two of the variants of conflickr spread by exploiting an unpatched vulnerability one of the components of the operating system--the uninfected computer inadvertantly trusts the data it gets from the infected computer. It doesn't matter whether one had admin privs or not.
  • chungkuo · 9 months ago
    This story pops up every year at this time. Everyone runs around like chicken little shouting about how the sky is going to fall, and it ends up being basically nothing.

    It's Y2K on a yearly basis now, with the same impact, only on a different date.

    Honestly, the change in daylight savings time was a bigger problem for IT than these infamous yearly April Fools Worms of Death or Y2K
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 9 months ago
    Netflix Play (on Demand) was late getting around to serving MAC users. To add insult, we are exposed to a POS Windows product called Silverlight which was supposed to improve the quality of the herky-jerky "moving" pictures that now appear.

    I wonder how much Bill Gates lost in the markets last year. Couldn't have been enough . . .
  • Apphouse50 · 9 months ago
    Without my permission, my teenage son downloaded some stuff off one of those music sites onto our Mac. A message popped up with a warning, which he chose to ignore, and it destroyed that laptop. They want $600 to fix it. I told them they could go screw. I hate Macs anyway, can't ever find my files on them, hate that to resize a window I have to do it from the lower right corner, and that's just for starters. I'll never have another one. Ever.

    And they are subject to viruses (even though I admit they aren't targeted as much).
  • NHS · 8 months ago
    Subject to viruses? Name one please!
  • Apphouse50 · 8 months ago
    Since I have almost total disdain for Macs, and don't know the name of the thing that we got messed up with via Limewire (wasn't there at the time), I suggest you check out The Google -- try entering just two simple terms: Macintosh and virus. You will see what I entered above confirmed.

    Being a true believer is not necessarily a bad thing, but being delusional is. I find most Mac people to be the latter, sorry to say. You won't ever hear me singing the praises of Windows bigtime, and I had originally switched to a Mac in the hope that I wouldn't come downstairs every day to find a new toolbar installed overnight on my PC by someone I didn't know. But I don't like the Mac way of displaying files, I don't like how hard and expensive it is to diagnose and fix problems, I don't like that when I needed repairs I had to make an appointment online to see one of their "geniuses" or whatever the hell they call them but the web site for my local store would not ever let you make the bloody appointment, and I don't like the power cable that had a sheath that would, over time, always break apart at a cost of $80 a pop. I could go on, but it's bringing back bad memories and at the end of the day, it wasn't worth the time and money. When it broke, I said, "Don't fix it."
  • SouthernYankee · 9 months ago
    I am not at all familiar with computers. I can get on and off and go to the different blogs. I had to get my husband to follow the instructions. Its just like a car. I can get in and drive it. A little knowledge can get you in lots of trouble. Thanks for the information and hopefully we won't have any problems.
  • The Tim Channel · 9 months ago
    There's ALWAYS this guy:

    "I can fix anything on my Windows machine myself (because he's spent countless hours doing so in the past and is now an 'expert') so these minor inconveniences are no problem."

    If you don't mind going 'board level' with your computer, this is an option. For me, I got tired of wasting my time tinkering with computers. I didn't want to change O/S. I would really have preferred not to have HAD to switch, but I was forced to.

    It's kinda like when I first smoked pot. All the institutional lies (Microsoft) about the merits of sobriety and the dangers and costs of the unknown (Mac) sorta melted away and I got the munchies for my Mac.

    Enjoy.
  • fox · 9 months ago
    this is another april fools joke. for all who are scared. welcome to the internet and this happens every year by the way.
  • Apphouse50 · 9 months ago
    Well, all I can tell you is my security s/w is Eset's NOD32 and they are being very cautious about this one. They can't tell how many computers may be infected but reading material on their site is fairly alarming. I'm planning on shutting this bad boy down until I hear the fallout through the day tomorrow. Meantime I'll use my office computer -- if this bunch can't secure their computers we're in big trouble.
  • Bubbles · 9 months ago
    well, you can do a couple of things:

    1) Adjust the date on your operating system back a couple of days, until you here the cost is clear - then move the date forward, skipping April 1 altogether.

    2) Unplug your network connection so it can't call out.

    Just thoughs.
  • jixter · 9 months ago
    Thanks, John and thanks, everybody! This has been a great, funny, instructive and helpful thread.
  • Dave von Ebers · 9 months ago
    Lynne sez:

    “Stop thinking that your computer is a personal lifestyle choice. It's a tool, and you pick the right tool for the right job. If you start taking these things personally, you're basically a fool for falling for the clever marking ploys of both companies. I'd rather not be brainwashed.”

    As a died-in-the-wool Mac user, I couldn’t agree more. A computer is a tool. Period. I happen to like this particular tool better than the alternative, but it’s a tool just the same. Not a religion; a tool.

    To be fair, though, most Mac users I know feel the same way. We’re really not a cult, I swear!
  • NHS · 8 months ago
    The easiest "security patch" for a Microsoft system which makes itt completely secure is to cut the cord connecting the computer to the internet!

    That's why I use Linux. I want to laugh every time I hear about these virus threats, until I realize my money is held by financial institutions who continue to use Microsoft products because it's "industry standard."
  • Robert · 8 months ago
    There's no such thing as a Mac virus and Apple never has to issue security updates because their software is completely invulnerable and always has been.

    http://www.viruslist.com/en/analysis?pubid=1919...
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=...
  • Kirby Sommers · 8 months ago
    Register.com Under Attack: ISP 100% Guarantee Worthless, by Kirby Sommers

    Register.com has been "under attack" for the last three days -- meaning small and medium sized business owners like myself are losing money hand over fist.

    When I first called their customer service center and was kept on the phone for more than two hours on April 1st, I was offered $10 (!!!) to compensate for what I originally believed was a $1,200/day loss of business.

    When it happened again the following day I got madder than mad and hunted down the CEO, Larry Kutcher at their New York City headquarters. The call was taken by his assistant, Sandy, who told me verbatim: "I am not going to lie to you. We are under attack." She then put my call through to Mr. Kutcher's voicemail.

    To his credit, Mr. Kutcher returned my call, however, did not speak with me directly. No mention was made by him on the message he left to indicate that his company was going to compensate me for my loses...let alone for the thousands of small to medium sized companies that have also been impacted by this fiasco.

    Register's latest advertising push has been geared to customers like myself. People who own their businesses and rely on their websites for sales. During this difficult economic time, my business is geared at helping people save money. Not only have I been impacted as a small business owner, but potential clients who look to my money saving services such as purchasing landlord data (Landlord Links: (kirbysommers.com) or cheap movie tickets (MovieStub.net) are also on the losing end.

    I called Mr. Kutcher again today and once again got Sandy on the line. Once again, she told me they were "under attack". She further claimed their CTO is "on it." Once again my call was forwarded to Larry Kutcher's voicemail. Once again I left my complaint. My businesses, my good name, the reputation I have spent a lifetime building is taken a huge blow. I may very well be put out of business by the very people who promised "100% commitment because 99% isn't enough".
  • mfarney · 1 week ago
    I managed to avoid this virus last April Fool's day but I wonder what will haven this year. I'm still not sure if it was a hoax or not but seeing how many viruses are being discovered every day, I think this one exists.
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