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We need a unified front now that the Primaries have ended. We need the historic runner up for the nomination to step up and deliver her unlimited support for the historic winner for the nomination. We need her supporters, at least the ones who are not rabid 'Ima gonna vote McCain' RCAs who are likely already on their way to McCain's 'Victory Stations' listening to their idol Rush's new instructions now. We need to KICK MCCAIN'S SORRY SEAT ALL THE WAY BACK TO ARIZONA!
Clinton delivered a stunningly awesome and heartfelt speech. I loved how she kept hitting 'We must help elect Barrack Obama President'. No question about it. She's not hedging her bets, she's not complaining that she didn't win or waxing about how she would have been the better candidate, she came out and directly said 'We must help elect Barrack Obama President!" Her supporters cheered that enthusiastically every time. There's no question. Honest Clinton supporters WILL get behind Barrack Obama, as there is no way an honest Democrat can support the likes of John McCain. It's over. She fought, definitely dirty, but now that she's lost, we MUST focus on bringing McCain down in the General. No. Questions. Asked.
As SarainKC said, IraqVetRespect. Leave the past behind or gtfo. Do NOT help McCain become President of the United States by driving Clinton supporters away. Keep your eyes on the ball.
I'm disappointed that she is suspending and not conceding, but in general she said the right things.
Go-bama!
- When it's not about her campaign, different, her dictioin is different, and looks painful and I am sure it is. However, she is doing it, and now the Healing can start.
http://blog.hillaryclinton.com/blog/main/2008/0...
let the games begin.
Chris Wallace never gets it right, btw. I'll take it that she spent 75% of the time talking about herself - I didn't watch it. When I listen to Hillary's speeches they come across as if she's talking to 9 year olds.
http://www.queersunited.blogspot.com
I am going to give to Obama, and now also to the DNC so that he will get more congressional Democratic support so he can really DO all the things he (WE) need to get done. An ethical Democratic President with a deadlocked Congress at this point in history would be unacceptable.
Thursday Obama purged the DNC of Federal lobbyist and PAC money, Friday, yesterday, I registered as a Democrat. I have been voting for their sorry asses for 30 years, sure, but I have not wanted to actually JOIN until there became some significant difference in the parties' structures, and the money is really just the hugest problem I think. Probably I should have put this on the thread before this one, but if folks reading this do have 25 extra dollars laying around, I suggest the DNC needs it more than HRC. For now. Before the election. Not that I recommend carrying debt per-se but campaign debt can wait a while.
Nice to give if you want to, but doing the Right Thing isn't a quid pro quo. It can wait - We have got candidates to elect first!
Maybe Obama could hold a fundraiser for her, to which her supporters could contribute?
I'm sure they'll be glad to have you.
Troll
My comment below wasn't for you.
It was for the troll below you, whose comment was thankfully removed.
Depends? The (diaper) Change he Believes in?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/7/11347/87...
Exit, stage right.
Act 2: Scene 1
Obama and McCain
But, please, remember that Hillary is the one who dragged this out until today.
Note to the next generation coming along: Get rid of narcissistic lying politicians - you're life will be better for it.
TeeHee.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoXYBxprAIQ&feat...
Fortunately, not everyone grows up to be a cynic. I still believe, in spite of my frustration and anger over how this country has evolved from the 60s.
maybe getting speech-making lessons from chimpy?
You can watch the video here:
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2008/06/vanquish...
You are one of the many reasons I and many, many like me will never vote for the first Affirmative Action nominee.
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Yeah, well, distance makes the heart grow fonder, but only for a little while...soon it makes the heart forget*
Greatest president? Hardly, Obama has less experience than Bush did in 2000 (as scant as that was), he is as much of an empty suit as was Bush in 2000. IOW, Obama is George W. Bush in blackface.
And before you go off on a rant, blackface is not a racist term, use The Google if you aren't old enough (and I suspect you aren't) to know or remember what it refers to.
See Amos and Andy for references as needed.
Now please, I think Rush is having an intervention meeting somewhere.
?? Obama was Law Reveiw Editor, top in in class, State Senator, etc.; and Bush was a narcissistic drunk who was booted out of the Nat'l Guard for drug use, not to mention he went AWOL in Alabamie. Oh, that's right, he graduated from college in the bottom 25% of his class.
Choose your words more wisely - never compare an intellectual with a baboon.
On the other hand, not counting both ran for president with no prior experience being president - Obama and Bush are actually both extremely, extraordinarily, successful:
Obama: scholarship student, top of his class. Successful community organizer, Constitutional law professor, state legislator and US Senator. Talented professional wife. Extraordinary talent for success in altruistic pursuits.
Bush: successful lowest-in-class-graduate, successful in avoiding honorable service even domestically during Vietnam, successful in ruining a baseball franchise, successful in not finding oil in Texas and failing an oil business. As President he was successful in ignoring terrorist threats allowing our nation to be attacked, then successful in assigning all blame elsewhere and proceeding to invade two countries and then, after we won, completely ruin the task by oppressing the populaces with his own domestic policy and killing hundreds of thousands and garnering the ill will of the civilized world and making our nation more insecure for decades to come. He is successful in turning a surplus budget into trillions of dollars of debt, successful in not regulating banks so they can speculate on our real-estate and cause not only a domestic but world financial crisis, drive the price of the dollar down and abet a worldwide spiral of rising food and energy costs affecting mostly those who can least afford it. Teen pregnancies - up! Unemployment too. He successfully shredded the Constitution and has openly committed High Crimes and Misdemeanors too numerous to count, and gotten away with all of them, openly. This is quite the success. Not to mention letting a city drown while you play guitar, and of course marrying someone who killed her boyfriend a month after they broke up in high school. He has a talent for, and is extremely successful at, extraordinary failure.
They are very, very similar, it just depends on how you look at it.
I would have liked a more contrasting speech of two parts, the first part in praise for her supporters, women and her accomplishments and the second part totally focused and dedicated on her support for Obama, delivered with strong enthusiasm and passion, with a final rallying cry for unity. I would have liked to see her end the speech getting the crowd really excited for unity and Obama.
But it is what it was – she said what she had to say.
Three cheers to all the Hillary supporters.... now come on over to Obama!
but forgive and forget.
let's work together and fix this piece.
But, like I said, forgiven but not forgotten. I just sent her a donation to help get her debt paid down, I would encourage anyone with the means to do the same.
Like I said, my personal opinion is the easiest way to truly get Clintons supporters on board is to kill them with kindness in areas that we can, like helping with campaign debts. Ideologically, I've given up trying to explain to them why Obama is the better choice, so at this point my goal is to make it a little easier for them to overcome apprehension and pull the lever for Obama in November.
Eyes on the prize and all that jazz....
I'm fighting back this year. No unanswered attacks.
Let's ask McCain if Karla Faye Tucker would have any suggestions as to how to deal with a President killing 4100 of our soldiers and wounding tens of thousands more.
McCain wants 10 town hall meetings???? I say Obama mops the floor with him in round 1.
Now, I jope the rest of the party can learn to be as disciplined as Obamas has been. In all honesty, the reason why the GOP has been winning until very recently is no matter the candidate or issue, they almost always appeared as a uniform group, even if individual politicians may not have agreed with the group consensus. I hope our party can get out of the "mer" mentality and start winning with a "we" mentality (oh my God, I sound like an HR rep giving a team-building lecture, uggh!)
To all CLINTON supporters out there who threaten to sit it out or vote for McCain -- I simply do not buy this. Clinton and Obama share most of the same policies and worldviews. McCain? Are you kidding me? If you really want him, go vote for him. But you aren't doing yourself any favors. If this is some sort of 'revenge' vote, I say, cool off. You have months to review what a McCain presidency will mean. It will mean a lot of bad things. Many. Bad. Things. War. Economy. Environment. Security. Health Care. Women's rights. Heck, the list goes on and on and on and on and on. This is McCain. He is not Obama by a long shot. And if that's what you want, then you truly do not know your candidate, Hillary, or really care about any of the issues she wants.
On one final note, I have mixed feelings about the whole "debt repayment" issue. Hillary racked up an incredible amount of debt. She lent her campaign millions and millions of dollars. She borrowed millions of dollars. Most candidates, when they are not raking in donations (i.e., people just aren't supporting them to continue), will drop out of the race. All of the other Democrats and Republicans who were not winning and not receiving an influx of funds, dropped out instead of raking up ridiculous debts. Hillary, on the other hand, decided to "fight", aka, stay in because she has the money and the credit to rack up a debt. AND she refused to give up, which, although admirable, is financially reckless when the numbers are telling you that you'll lose and the donations are not flowing in. So she made these, what shall we call them, "bad" decisions that were, in my opinion, exceedingly irresponsible. Obama, does not have the immense amount of wealth that the Clintons have. He would have had to drop out even if things were close if no one was contributing. Hillary did not stop. No money? No problem. So that is my frustration. She had every right to stay in, but at the cost of racking up huge huge debt and expecting Obama's camp to pay for her continued run.
All this said, I am not opposed to Obama's camp helping her out. But not with my money. She should have dropped out much sooner. She is privileged and had the money to continue to compete. Let me tell you, I'd be willing to bet that if any of the other Republican candidates had the huge money and was willing to spend it, the Republican contests would not have just all bowed to McCain, state after state. They would have been competitive. However McCain would have still won. Had Hillary dropped out much sooner, all these states that looked so "close" would have mostly gone to Obama if she was not still competing. I find it strange that news outlets do not explore this obvious fact. Once the race (as it was in the Republican camp) is "over", of course people aren't going to come out in droves to vote for opposition. Yes it happens a few times, but generally McCain just won everything without further campaigning for the primary. Things would have been significantly different if another Republican candidates had or BORROWED the money to continue competing. News Anchors would ask, "Why is he having trouble closing the deal?" It's simple. People come out to vote for different names in the primary while that candidate is declaring he/she is still running. Once they drop out, it changes everything.
So Hillary stayed in it to win and lost. I respect and salute her for a difficult campaign run. She ran up huge debt, and whatever Obama can do to help her close it, I say go for it. But the writing has been on the wall for months. If it was any other candidate, they would have bowed out because you just can't compete without people donating. It's usually a sign that you're losing.
Anyway, people can do as they want, but I say that we should make sure that her campaign debt is paid down right before or right at convention. My thought is that keeping her in the red until the convention helps mitigate any possibility of her "un-suspending" her campaign (OK, I'm a suspicious cad, sue me!), but having her in debt after the convention could be used as a wedge to polarize any remaining die-hard Clinton fans. So my theory is give to Clinton, but do it in nice small chunks until the convention. She gets the debt paid down and theirs one more obstacle keeping her from making some bizarro challenge at convention (man, I am getting paranoid in my old age!).
Yes, she is suspending her campaign so that she can continue the fund raising needed to try to pay off her extreme debt, however I think she still has intentions for a 1972 type of delegate steal at the convention come August. We know she thinks that "something might happen" to Barack's campaign between now and then so it appears she just may be biding her time. Please do note that she never "RELEASED" her delegates and is merely suspending her campaign instead of conceding outright.
Perhaps I'm wrong here and I only hope that I am (!), but my instinct says something different. I think we need to watch and see what Hillary does next and see how hard she may or may not campaign for Obama, but until then I will unfortunately remain a cynic.
IN any event, after visiting one of the Anti Barack-Pro Hillary blog of blogs, I found this sentiment of noting what Hillary did and did not do in this speech. Their headlines say it all:
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1. Does NOT release her delegates!
2. She was reading a speech that was politically necessary.
3. We have TWO months to reverse this travesty.
4. Back to work, people!
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So let's remember the deal is not signed as yet...
She is keeping control of her delegates because that is the only way her name can be entered in nomination - a gesture to history, if you like; even if she loses on the first ballot. It is also a tribute to all of us who supported her and got the first major female candidate so close to being nominated. I'm sorry if takes away from Sen. Obama. Should it really bother him, I suppose he can refuse to have her over for any sleepovers in the White House.
(That last sentence is snark, but why do I think someone will deliberately misinterpret it?)
Please understand that I am not trying to negate Hillary's speech, but I am a cynic here in what may or may not continue to develop.
Personally, I think she has further intentions regarding the convention, but I do hope my fears are merely nervous energy gone awry. Until then let us all be thankful of her praise and hope that her continued support does, in fact, help further Barack's campaign for President.
Better late than ever, I guess.
I don't want to hear her name anymore. It was nice and dandy that at least she is telling her supporter to back Obama. But now the focus is on BEATING JOHN McSame.
How about Clinton applying for a job under Obama in order to come up with the needed cash to pay her debts.
I agree with Sullivan. She's a great politician. But she found her self surrounded by even greater politicians. She was Salieri and she had to deal with two Mozarts: Bill and Barack.