Starbucks charges $4 to $5 for a coffee and they still have to screw their employees?..They must be republican..
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
According to the Blue Pages, 100 percent of their political donations goes to Democrats.
It's only $42k, which is a drop in the bucket to them, but they're not Repubs.
(Amazon, by the way, is a Rats Nest full of Repubs and Repub Donors. Take your online business to Barnes and Noble or Powells instead.)
onceVM
· 1 year ago
Thanks for the tip..I wont do business with Amazon..
Joshau Norton
· 1 year ago
I wonder how that will effect other service positions. A regular waiter has to shell out to the bartender, the busboy, the maitre d', the captain and the hostess. A good night can turn rather crappy when all the handouts are distributed.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Yes, it seems like splitting the tips would be pretty common in other food service entities.
And, I mean, it's not like the shift supervisor is in an office, is it?
I thought he/she was usually running around behind the counter with everybody else.
Hell, in all the Starbucks I've been in, the tip jar wasn't even near the barristas. It was near the cash register.
This suit is baseless.
barkleyg
· 1 year ago
2 things. I think the aftertaste is acidic, or burnt as Chris said. The Coffee Bean, a big Los Angeles chain of coffee houses, lets Starbucks do all the domographics, select the location, and open up a new store. Then Coffee Bean moves within a block(sometimes directly across the street), and crushes them with more patrons and sales. Sometimes, there is justice in the world, just never in the DOJ in the last 7+ years!
sconset
· 1 year ago
I love Starbucks and I have nieces that have terrific part time jobs with them. They have been able to purchase stock (even though it has lost half its value) good benefits and it provides them with spending money.
That said, I am very unhappy about this $100 million settlement and was very surprised by it. I have been a great admirer of its CEO who grew up dirt poor and remembered how his father needed medical care and couldn't get it and the effect it had on the family. That is why Starbucks is one of a few that pay health care and they have a terrific plan. I've seen Howard Schultz interviewed many times and I still have great admiration for him.
However, I don't like shelling out $4.10 every morning for 2 venti's.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Yeah, they're good employers.
Chris is just used to French standards of employment.
Sarkozy will soon change that!
RecoveringTexan
· 1 year ago
So you never liked Starbucks, anwyay. Bully for you. Nevertheless, it was my first exposure (Starbucks #2 here in Seattle) to really decent coffee. Since that first exposure I have learned much more about coffee and still find that when I travel, I'm much more likely to have a positive experience with their coffee than I have had with some mom and pop fronts that underestimated the level of learning or commitment required to make decent coffee. But I still try them. And I will continue to do so. But I will not bash Starbucks just because that's affords me some cheap politically correct points. And, no, I don't work for them or have any connection to them unless they're hiring physicists/sw engineers.
Check out this link for the ultimate commentary on Starbucks. Be forewarned-- foul language herein....
Bub
· 1 year ago
Agree with the sentiment: Some how fair trade is good for Columbian farmers, but not good for Star Bucks own employees. One reason for paying $4 for a cup of joe is so you can be sure everyone in the chain is getting a fair deal.
I often think that if minimum wage was $12 an hour, the price of a Big Mac would go up, maybe 50 cents. Small price to pay for fairness and livability. That's one of the reasons I think it's okay to pay $4 for coffee.
GrantinHouston
· 1 year ago
In a blind taste test, McDonald's and Dunkin' Donuts beat out Starbucks at half of the price. That's the reason that Starbucks is testing $1 for a cup of regular coffee now.
I worked at McDonald's in 1962 when minimum wage was $1.25. Our typical order (I worked the front counter) was a regular hamburger, fries, and a Coke and it came to 47¢ (no sales tax in Indiana back in the day). The regular hamburger was 15¢, the fries 12¢, and a soft drink was 20¢
Even though minimum wage has gone up less than five times ($5.85), the price of those food items has gone up six times on the "Dollar" menu.
grandma
· 1 year ago
I don't care for Starbucks coffee....but had always heard good things about how they treat their employees....a college student here said the students like to get a job at Starbucks cuz they get health insurance.
rycam
· 1 year ago
I'm a advocate of employee rights, but there is so much wrong with this post that I have to disagree. First, the job most analogous to a barista is a fast food restaurant employee. In comparison to that group, Starbucks baristas are very well compensated and have fabulous benefits. Second, the supervisors aren't office emplyeees who are sitting in a back room and ordering the other emplyees around. The supervisors are essentially baristas who have the authority to delegate tasks to others. Because the customer does not tip their barista directly (one just leaves the cash in a cup or jar), someone who is waited upon by the supervisor would be tipping emplyees who didn't serve them in any form whatsoever if the supervisor does not get a portion of the tips. The supervisors are indeed more highly paid by Starbucks for the supervisory roles, but they should also get a cut of the tips because they are taking orders and making drinks just like all of the other baristas. I think Starbucks made this rule in the interest of fairness and with reasonable intentions, but it just happens to violate the literal letter of California's labor law.
AngelaChanning
· 1 year ago
I never did understand how tips are divided up and who gets what. Does anyone know the "averages"? I have always prided myself as a decent tipper but it is a little disappointing knowing that supervisors were reaping the rewards for the hard work of their employees. Thank you for listening.
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
I love Starbucks. Their supervisors do the same service at the cash registers that baristas do, ringing us up, grabbing our coffee, etc. Why should we not tip a supervisor when it is a superviser that helps us? Shall we now start asking if the person helping us is a superviser? Because if we are served by a superviser, why would we tip at all if the staff that did not assist us will get the tip money? It makes no sense. I am 100% with Starbucks on this one.
AngelaChanning
· 1 year ago
I think these things are good to know because I generally would not know who was a Barista and who was a Supervisor unless I read their nametag. Now, I certainly don't mean to begrudge service employees but I have noticed tip jars everywhere now....at carry out (only) places, a bakery and at my dry cleaner. (Like if I don't tip, will she smash my buttons?) I know in Baltimore, we tend to be a bit more frugal and are not used to tipping so many folks outside of food servers in restaurants, baristas, hair dressers, cab drivers, and bell hops. I notice that some tip jars are fuller than others. LOL. Thank you for listening.
An_American_Karol
· 1 year ago
Angela, I waitressed while in college. I would tip the busboy 10% of my tips. I have no idea how a community tip works. It would seem to me the tips would be slip evenly for each shift worked. At least that's what I thought when tipping at Starbuck's. When this story broke, I stopped tipping. I'll wait until the dust settles and Starbuck's is more fair before I start up again.
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
Just because a coffee shop is not part of a gigantic chain does not mean it is a good coffee shop. I live in DC, and there are 3 independent coffee shops in my neighborhood which I have tried so hard to love. But fact is these 3 independent coffee shops have the worst coffee on earth, have insanely uncomfortable seating, have lousy pastries, and have crappy environments. There are 2 Cosis in my 'hood but they REALLY treat their employees like shit, though their coffee is great and the environment is pretty good much of the time. We have 7 Starbucks in my neighborhood and they are almost all quite good and comfy, though they are insanely overcrowded. Why overcrowded? Because they are GOOD. Plain and simple.
An_American_Karol
· 1 year ago
and that would be split not slip. damn it.
onceVM
· 1 year ago
$100 million seems like alot of money but I guess there is alot of Starbucks..Atleast according to Lewis Black..
Large Corporations are severely under-regulated in our country. This allows large Corporations to be as greedy as they can be.
Starbuck$ is just being as greedy as it can be under the Law.
The Law must be changed.
Big Corporations must be regulated more closely and strictly.
Then Big Corporations would be somewhat less-greedy. And workers would gain at least some benefit.
This is not rocket-science. This is not Communism. This is part of having a decent society.
Figure it out, America.
Stevious
· 1 year ago
Another reason why I prefer Dunkin Donuts coffee over Starbucks...
BlueNTexas
· 1 year ago
Another reason I will continue to brew my own.
Stevious
· 1 year ago
I brew my own too, using DD whole beans that I grind at home. :-)
GrantinHouston
· 1 year ago
I just brought back some Blue Mountain coffee from Jamaica at $20 a lb. That still works out to be only 50¢ a cup which I will take any day over Starbucks.
Satanobot
· 1 year ago
Starbucks shift supervisors do all of the same work as baristas, as has been noted - and a store's tip money is distributed to all hourly employees (shifts and baristas) based on their hours. I don't see why they shouldn't get a share of tips.
There is a good article on the Slate about how Starbucks has and continues to do a lot to develop the coffee industry as a whole - even if that's not their intentions. http://www.slate.com/id/2180301/
Let's get back to dealing with the real villains, okay? =)
grasshopper
· 1 year ago
When I was growing up, my family bought coffee from Peet's, which is the original concept for Starbucks.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
always thought their coffee tasted burnt
Ditto...and the pastries are like lead.
An_American_Karol
· 1 year ago
grasshopper, I love Peets coffee.
grasshopper
· 1 year ago
Me too. Starbucks taste like dishwater by comparison.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Anyone mention coffee's zooming price? Soon wedding rings will have a little coffee bean in the setting.
Sage24
· 1 year ago
The Latest Gallup poll shows that Obama has shown a lead over Clinton.
Clinton negativity ratings are comparable to Rick Santorum in PA. Clinton's negativity ratings nationwide has also increased to 55%. Perhaps people are beginning to see that Clinton's gutter politics are spoiling the party's chances of winning in November.
Chris From Maine
· 1 year ago
i dont like coffee. they have a starbucks inside of the target where I shop in Bangor and I looked at the menu and it might as well have been written in chinese, cause i had no idea what any of it was.
Sage24
· 1 year ago
Instead of attacking Obama with her gutter politics, and spoiling his chances of winning in November, shouldn't the Hillary the spoiler stop her clawing and scratching, and go back to being the junior senator from NY? According to this article, she has no chance of winning.
dont you understand her master plan? If she cant win, she wants McCain to win so she can run in 2012. If Obama wins, he runs again in 2012, and his VP runs in 2016.
never forget.. its always about power. not the country, not the party, only power.
and besides, I think she would rather have McCain as President then Obama.
Patriot
· 1 year ago
Starbucks is ok in a pinch. However, I too am one of those that buys beans from a family owned shop and grinds at home. Its not cheap but, it sreally good coffee and it's far cheaper than a $ 4.00 cup from starbucks.
I have nothing really against them, don't know enough about the tip jar greivance to weigh in and yet, I wonder how they can survive in so many locations so close to one another. I suspect it will be a very tough year even for starbucks.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
According to SpaceWeather.com: There is a huge prominence on the sun today and it looks like it could erupt at any minute," reports Paul Haese of Blackwood, South Australia. ...A 24-hour movie made by the SOHO spacecraft [today] confirms that this is a very dynamic prominence which could indeed collapse or erupt at any time. http://spaceweather.com/swpod2008/22mar08/promm...
mike31c
· 1 year ago
I also prefer my local coffee shop over these overpriced coffee and sometimes snooty "atmosphere". I just love it when big corporations whine "it's not fair" when California tells the big-wigs of these multi-state stores that YES, you DO have to follow the Labor Laws of the state of California.
$tarcrap$ is not the first to think they are exempt from following the laws of the State and most certainly not the last company to be fined and forced to realize you WILL be fined and forced to pay your employees according to the Labor Laws of the state you are doing business with!
Hell, I bet jerks like you, $tarcrap$, and MANY other companies that do business in California, think you can pay Federal Minimum wage of $5.85 over California min. wage of $8.00.
It's a crying shame though that the California Labor Board took a few years to come to this conclusion.
WordSmith
· 1 year ago
I always thought their coffee tasted burnt and not very good anyway.
From the first cup of coffee I tried. Even in a pinch I don't drink it.
Jim Olson
· 1 year ago
I'm from Boston. And not only that, I am originally from Randolph, MA, home of Dunkin Donuts University. I hate Starbucks...too expensive, and too burnt tasting. I'm a huge devotee of Dunkin Donuts. Is it weak? In comparison to Starfucks, yes. But I can still buy a regular coffee (in New England, that's with cream and one sugar) for $.90. Fuck Starbucks. Gimme my DD. But for G-d's sake, tell that nasty woman Rachael Ray to STFU. DD's ad campaign with her is a DISASTER.
(I should not post when I am inebriated...)
Chris From Maine
· 1 year ago
lol.. I agree with everything you said. Dunkin Donuts RULES!
and I call Rachael Ray "The Joker" because of the way her mouth looks. Trust me.. look at her next time shes on TV when she smiles or laughs.. its eerie.
here4tehbeer
· 1 year ago
Starbucks = Liquid Ass.
Well, as far as coffee is concerned.
Eeewwwww...
katymine
· 1 year ago
Starbucks helped me put two kids through college. They provide benefits to young adults kids who have aged out of the parents policy and they do not have to work full time. Starbucks made sure that they both had enough hours and worked with their class schedules so that they had enough hours.
They also pay tuition assistance. As a single mother trying to get three young adults through college, Starbucks is a God send. Years ago I used to work for Aetna heath insurance and Starbucks was one of our small business accounts. They insisted on covering ALL of their employees regardless of the number of hours they worked.
There is the good, the bad and the ugly of all companies, Starbucks started with a great history and from the CEO's requirement to cover all their employees regardless of the number of hours they work.
BTW Dunkon donut so called coffee is crap.
Ben Dover
· 1 year ago
Start the day without a Venti, double shot, caramel, 1/2&1/2 latte? I mean, why get out of bed?
"Folger's, Just Enough Energy To Get To Starbuck's"
Lucky for me this is my only real addiction.
Ben Dover
· 1 year ago
I did find a support group. Trouble was that they met outside a liquor store.
And that wasn't going to work out.
:)
WordSmith
· 1 year ago
I happen to like Dunkin Donuts coffee - or did, we don't have them here. I either make coffee at home or go to a place nearby that's owned locally.
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Bad news for everyone who loves Dunkin Donuts coffee...it's owned by the Carlyle Group, so the Bush family is getting your money.
Otherwise, have never been to Starbucks, at my weight, I don't need the extra calories. And I've always preferred the coffee I make at home to anything I get outside. That way I know I'll get real half and half, for one thing. The other is, it seems insane to pay $2 or $3 or more for a cuppa Java...if you want exotic coffee, you can get the beans yourself, grind them as needed. Can't see leaving the house without a couple of cups anyway.
jr
· 1 year ago
This is more of the Reaganomic greed that Wall St. loves in their war on the middle class. This and Wal Mart locking employees in the store are par for the course in the Norquistian "drown government in a bathtub" model of no regulation over business
tofubo
· 1 year ago
there's a starbucks in town, i used to go there to get a pound or two to brew at home when waiting in line i always picked up the various nick-nacks and coffee cups, everything was made in china i remember a round table discussion where the ceo of starbucks was one of the group, talking about opening up stores in china, no one asked (from what i saw), was all the various sundry items for sale there going to be made in the u.s. ??
their coffee has always tasted burnt to me too. I thought I was the only one.
scottinsf
· 1 year ago
I've never cared for Starbucks coffee. I agree it's way over-roasted. Having said that...when I lived in Seattle I knew a number of people that worked for Starbucks at both their corporate headquarters and at stores. The only complaint I ever heard from anybody at corporate was after the last big earthquake in Seattle they had to move out for about a year while their heavily damaged building was repaired. Most of the baristas actually praised them for providing FULL medical and dental insurance for even their part-time employees. This was years ago and I don't know if they still do.
Most Seattle people laugh and turn their noses up at Starbucks. There are so many excellent independent coffee houses there and Starbucks is kind of considered the fast-food of coffee, even by the people I knew that worked at corporate headquarters. If you are ever in Seattle and want the best coffee experience you've ever had go to Espresso Vivace on Capitol Hill.
An_American_Karol
· 1 year ago
I'll remember that, scott. :-)
scottinsf
· 1 year ago
Good evening ma'am. Lovely day in the City today. I'm sure it was out your way too. I haven't seen Gary around. Did that boy fly off to España again?
All Comments
It's only $42k, which is a drop in the bucket to them, but they're not Repubs.
(Amazon, by the way, is a Rats Nest full of Repubs and Repub Donors. Take your online business to Barnes and Noble or Powells instead.)
And, I mean, it's not like the shift supervisor is in an office, is it?
I thought he/she was usually running around behind the counter with everybody else.
Hell, in all the Starbucks I've been in, the tip jar wasn't even near the barristas. It was near the cash register.
This suit is baseless.
The Coffee Bean, a big Los Angeles chain of coffee houses, lets Starbucks do all the domographics, select the location, and open up a new store. Then Coffee Bean moves within a block(sometimes directly across the street), and crushes them with more patrons and sales. Sometimes, there is justice in the world, just never in the DOJ in the last 7+ years!
That said, I am very unhappy about this $100 million settlement and was very surprised by it. I have been a great admirer of its CEO who grew up dirt poor and remembered how his father needed medical care and couldn't get it and the effect it had on the family. That is why Starbucks is one of a few that pay health care and they have a terrific plan. I've seen Howard Schultz interviewed many times and I still have great admiration for him.
However, I don't like shelling out $4.10 every morning for 2 venti's.
Chris is just used to French standards of employment.
Sarkozy will soon change that!
Check out this link for the ultimate commentary on Starbucks. Be forewarned-- foul language herein....
I often think that if minimum wage was $12 an hour, the price of a Big Mac would go up, maybe 50 cents. Small price to pay for fairness and livability. That's one of the reasons I think it's okay to pay $4 for coffee.
I worked at McDonald's in 1962 when minimum wage was $1.25. Our typical order (I worked the front counter) was a regular hamburger, fries, and a Coke and it came to 47¢ (no sales tax in Indiana back in the day). The regular hamburger was 15¢, the fries 12¢, and a soft drink was 20¢
Even though minimum wage has gone up less than five times ($5.85), the price of those food items has gone up six times on the "Dollar" menu.
I have no idea how a community tip works. It would seem to me the tips would be slip evenly for each shift worked. At least that's what I thought when tipping at Starbuck's. When this story broke, I stopped tipping. I'll wait until the dust settles and Starbuck's is more fair before I start up again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9iMgSNrwv4&NR=1
Large Corporations are severely under-regulated in our country.
This allows large Corporations to be as greedy as they can be.
Starbuck$ is just being as greedy as it can be under the Law.
The Law must be changed.
Big Corporations must be regulated more closely and strictly.
Then Big Corporations would be somewhat less-greedy.
And workers would gain at least some benefit.
This is not rocket-science.
This is not Communism.
This is part of having a decent society.
Figure it out, America.
There is a good article on the Slate about how Starbucks has and continues to do a lot to develop the coffee industry as a whole - even if that's not their intentions. http://www.slate.com/id/2180301/
Let's get back to dealing with the real villains, okay? =)
Ditto...and the pastries are like lead.
Soon wedding rings will have a little coffee bean in the setting.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/105529/Gallup-Daily-...
Clinton negativity ratings are comparable to Rick Santorum in PA.
Clinton's negativity ratings nationwide has also increased to 55%.
Perhaps people are beginning to see that Clinton's gutter politics are
spoiling the party's chances of winning in November.
According to this article, she has no chance of winning.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9149....
never forget.. its always about power. not the country, not the party, only power.
and besides, I think she would rather have McCain as President then Obama.
I have nothing really against them, don't know enough about the tip jar greivance to weigh in and yet, I wonder how they can survive in so many locations so close to one another. I suspect it will be a very tough year even for starbucks.
There is a huge prominence on the sun today and it looks like it could erupt at any minute," reports Paul Haese of Blackwood, South Australia. ...A 24-hour movie made by the SOHO spacecraft [today] confirms that this is a very dynamic prominence which could indeed collapse or erupt at any time.
http://spaceweather.com/swpod2008/22mar08/promm...
$tarcrap$ is not the first to think they are exempt from following the laws of the State and most certainly not the last company to be fined and forced to realize you WILL be fined and forced to pay your employees according to the Labor Laws of the state you are doing business with!
Hell, I bet jerks like you, $tarcrap$, and MANY other companies that do business in California, think you can pay Federal Minimum wage of $5.85 over California min. wage of $8.00.
It's a crying shame though that the California Labor Board took a few years to come to this conclusion.
From the first cup of coffee I tried. Even in a pinch I don't drink it.
(I should not post when I am inebriated...)
and I call Rachael Ray "The Joker" because of the way her mouth looks. Trust me.. look at her next time shes on TV when she smiles or laughs.. its eerie.
Well, as far as coffee is concerned.
Eeewwwww...
They also pay tuition assistance. As a single mother trying to get three young adults through college, Starbucks is a God send. Years ago I used to work for Aetna heath insurance and Starbucks was one of our small business accounts. They insisted on covering ALL of their employees regardless of the number of hours they worked.
There is the good, the bad and the ugly of all companies, Starbucks started with a great history and from the CEO's requirement to cover all their employees regardless of the number of hours they work.
BTW Dunkon donut so called coffee is crap.
"Folger's, Just Enough Energy To Get To Starbuck's"
Lucky for me this is my only real addiction.
And that wasn't going to work out.
:)
Otherwise, have never been to Starbucks, at my weight, I don't need the extra calories. And I've always preferred the coffee I make at home to anything I get outside. That way I know I'll get real half and half, for one thing. The other is, it seems insane to pay $2 or $3 or more for a cuppa Java...if you want exotic coffee, you can get the beans yourself, grind them as needed. Can't see leaving the house without a couple of cups anyway.
when waiting in line i always picked up the various nick-nacks and coffee cups, everything was made in china
i remember a round table discussion where the ceo of starbucks was one of the group, talking about opening up stores in china, no one asked (from what i saw), was all the various sundry items for sale there going to be made in the u.s. ??
http://www.sacred-grounds.com/index.html
Most Seattle people laugh and turn their noses up at Starbucks. There are so many excellent independent coffee houses there and Starbucks is kind of considered the fast-food of coffee, even by the people I knew that worked at corporate headquarters. If you are ever in Seattle and want the best coffee experience you've ever had go to Espresso Vivace on Capitol Hill.