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I imagine it will go something like; Maliki is a Muslum so of course he agrees with Obama, if he really said that, since Cent Com blah blah blah
Turning point, Election '08!
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Life is rarely black and white but it still appears that Americans are still in "all-or-nothing" mode. The real problem is that the GOP has effectively figured out how to the Democratic party voters tendency to become apathetic at anything less than perfection into a stranglehold on the WH.
Obama looks and projects the part of wholesome, democratic American leader far better than Bush or McCain and without the absurd props of the Bush II fiasco like the Decider's penchant for a muzzled press, thematic Eisenhower jackets and vast military stage settings.
Unlike secretive Bushie visits, the media seem semi well informed of the three Senators whereabouts...
Serial McGaffe:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/21/mccain...
Yep! What about the 50-60,000 troops that Obama thinks we need to leave in Iraq? And the troops he plans to pull out of Iraq, he wants to send to Afghanistan. Plus, he supports Bush's bullshit on Iran being a nuclear threat. He's a war monger, just the same as Bush and McCain. It's the only way that he can get military-industrial corporate support for his campaign and millions of corporate dollars in his coffers.
Some great examples are Truman, who at various points had horrible approval numbers but is regarded by many historians as one of the greats. FDR walked in right in the middle of the Great Depression and was almost ruined by the New Deal, until it started to work and he was overwhelmingly reelected on its strength. Abe Lincoln had an incredibly difficult challenge getting elected both times given the already polarized nation in regards to succession, but today Lincoln is regarded as one of the greats.
My point is this, you really can't judge a political campaign as any real barometer of how a POTUS will run their term. Their records are a much better indicator, and when taking those, I simply think Obamas is much better than McCains and shows a thread of consistency that McCains does now.
Do all politicians pander for votes, of course? Should we take their campaign pandering as any indicator of their Presidency, heck no (if so, I'm still waiting for my thousand points of light or "compassionate conservatism").
I was pondering how and what to write in a reply to red_dwarf, but you've expressed perfectly what I wanted to convey.
And not for the first time.
Also, can we drop some of the staw in the strawman arguement you are using? Obamas campaign has said that he doesn't want to do the same-ole-same-ole Washington insider type politics. The MSM and people like you have spun that into Obama promising to be some reincarnation of "honest Abe Lincoln" and it just isn't what he is saying. Obama has said he wants to minimize lobbyist involvement, guess what, he's doing it. Obama said he is going to be "common sense" driven and not just an idealogue, guess what, while his pragmatism may upset some on both sides of the political spectrum, it is pretty much exactly what he said he was and what his record represents.
Here's the difference, though you're point is well taken.
I don't think its appropriate to EVER piss on the Constitution. And, in a big way. Obama has demonstrated, IMO, absolutely NO courage to date. Perhaps that will change.
You will have your answer one year from now. Let's see how many criminals get indicted during Obama's term. I say ZERO. I could be wrong. But it take courage to stand up and protect the Constitution, none at all to trash it.
Sure, Obama is better then McShank, I agree. However, Obama does not have what it takes to be a great President - like I said, history will demonstrate who is right - I call 'em by their actions, not by their rhetoric.
If we stand back so to have a larger perspective, it is obvious that the country is not ready for a hard left turn. It is what is needed, to be sure, but with our corporate media that would most likely limit Obama's abilities to bring change and probably prevent his 2nd term, which will be needed.
I see him as an interim commander, slowly taking the mic away from those who have for so long controlled the conversation and in doing this bringing along an idiot citizenry to acceptance of liberal policies. In doing this, Obama will be less than we want, but from a historical perspective he will indeed be a great president.
During his 4 or 8 years we need to be looking for our next leader who can step into a far less ugly political atmosphere to complete the country's turn to the left. As disappointing to me as it is, that groundwork first needs to be done and Obama is the charismatic and, I believe, capable man to do it.
Even 'tho we are addicted to the showy and the immediate, greatness is not usually obvious in the shortterm.
If I am right, then his VP choice, who will likely be our next prez candidate, becomes extremely important. It better NOT be Hillary Clinton! If I could chose for him, it would be Wes Clark.
That is the main difference...d.i.p.l.o.m.a.c.y
Everyone will be a part of the solution, including NATO.
Welcome to the capitol of DUMBFUCKISTAN.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/18/opini...
love this comment, jr. you said it all.
"Barack Obama, out by 2010. John McCain, stay for 100 years. Any questions?"