DISQUS

AMERICAblog: Is it "playing the age card" if McCain is actually too old to be president?

  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    McCain has been exhibiting a trend of increasingly serious cognitive dysfunction for months.
  • KerrynowCampau · 1 year ago
    I don't know if it is because of his age or not but he just doesn't make sense a lot of the time. I know some pretty sharp people in their 70's. McSame just doesn't sound like one of them.
  • Aanya · 1 year ago
    Now how do we wake up the Nation before it's too late? I honestly believe that McCain was hand picked by the PNAC alumni, to keep control of the White House, and at the latest of all possible dates, Jeb Bush will be announced as McCain's running mate. Sadly, McCain won't even make it half way through his first term. My worst nightmare!
  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 1 year ago
    McCain is exhibiting many signs of early Altzeimer's. I prefer YouTube over Feeding Tube, thank you.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    Come here sister.....Grandpa's in the swing
    He ain't too hip...about that new breed babe
    He ain't no drag
    Grandpa's got a new... colostomy bag?
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    I wonder if that's why he's so angry... because he's confused a lot of the time?
  • billofwrites · 1 year ago
    john...

    great blog, but dammit, man, you're developing a tin ear lately...

    first with your reaction to impeachment...and now this "age-ist" argument?

    every day mccain digs his unqualified / incompetence hole a little deeper. so let him keep digging. why attribute his incompetence to anything other than to just what it is..."incompetence." his age may -- or may not -- be a factor, so why frame it as "age?"

    that said, keep up the good work...
  • SociologistTina · 1 year ago
    That's a great point, one I had not previously considered much. Thanks!
  • nashcountync · 1 year ago
    His age is a legitimate issue. He's old, dazed and confused. He has no business being president. Forget the 3 a.m. phone call, what about the 3 p.m. phone call while he's taking a nap?
  • nightowwl · 1 year ago
    I was flipping through the radio on my way to work this morning when I heard some nutjob host talking about how Michelle Obama was "fair game." If the pugs think it's OK to play "the wife card," the Dems not only have the right, but the obligation to question whether McCain is mentally and physically fit to be President.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    exactly... let's have more of the MSM keep asking him over and over... "Why are you so angry?"

    eventually, the American public will get to see that temper that has caused him to have no friends in congress... even on his side of the aisle.
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    The answer is No. It is not "ageism," but rather reality. McBush is not physically fit for the presidency. He demonstrates this every time he speaks.

    OT:

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  • Rab · 1 year ago
    I have been saying this for quite awhile. The job is too demanding for someone his age. Didn't the sheep learn last time with Reagan?
  • Malcolm · 1 year ago
    Please don't malign sheep. None of them voted for W.
  • jr · 1 year ago
    you can play connect the dots with McCombover's liver spots
  • bluestockton · 1 year ago
    I've read pundits who predicted that just as some women voted for Hillary because "she's one of us," older Americans will vote for McCain because "he's one of us." Those pundits may be surprised: it's BECAUSE I'm an older person that I shudder at the thought of a President McCain. Being president is a young person's job, and who should know that better than we AARP members. I find my 9-to-5 sedentary job exhausting enough, and it contains none of the stresses of the presidency.
  • Malcolm · 1 year ago
    Do you really think your job is less stressful than the President''s? I sort of doubt it. The President absolutely doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want to do. He doesn't have to pay bills, plan meals, ferry kids, care for elders, you name it, he doesn't have to do it. His health care is 100 percent golden; so is his pension. If presidents age on the job, I think it's probably from worrying about what real life will be like when they have to return to it. Nonetheless, as a partner of an over 70, I don't think a 72 year old with medical and psychological problems is fit to govern. It's important that the person in the job remember what that red button is for. If he thinks it's for room service, we're in grave difficulty.
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    Sorry to go O/T as usual, but I don't think US voters in red states will appreciate Bush's cheap dollar policy that makes every high-profile US asset a bargain to foreign investors. Miller is already owned by a South African company.

    Belgian rival makes takeover bid for Budweiser.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7449700.stm

    (BTW, Belgian beer is much better than Budweiser. ;-)
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    BTW, Belgian beer is much better than Budweiser.
    ---

    that goes without saying.

    the funny thing is, in the UK... Budweiser is becoming the chic beer to drink in a lot of the 'in' places.

    ick.

    of course, it IS Budweiser that's BREWED in the UK... so it probably doesn't taste like the dirty bathwater they pass as beer to us Americans.
  • bluestockton · 1 year ago
    Cindy McCain owns an Anheuser Busch distributorship. How about we let the Belgians buy AB and fire Cindy?
  • Malcolm · 1 year ago
    That was my first thought when I heard the news. If the deal could go through and Cindy could be fired by August, McCain would be up the creek.
  • Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago
    ANY beer is much better than Budweiser!
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    This bloody war has been a waste of lives, and our resources.

    Who will hold these war criminals accountable, and responsible, for the lies and dragging us into an unnecessary war? We could have done so much for the people in this country, for the money that has been wasted, and now missing.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/74...
  • EdSikov · 1 year ago
    I'm 51, and I'm too old for the bar scene, crystal meth, and a career in porn.

    The problem with McCain in my never humble opinion is not his age but his mental state. I'd vote for a 70-something if he or she wasn't a loon.
  • ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith) · 1 year ago
    They do have a fetish for older person porn now, so if you're interested in porn, go for it.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    Ed, you've obviously not looked at the 'older men' porn ;-)

    what can I say... badpuppy doesn't work for me.
  • EdSikov · 1 year ago
    I spent 5 years as the video porn columnist for INCHES magazine, and I basically haven't watched any since I left. I couldn't take it any more! Oldster porn??! Maybe I should try some!
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    check out hotoldermale

    its owned by Amisted Maupin's partner Chris... maybe the two of you could talk literature between shoots (so to speak)

    :-)
  • Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago
    "The problem with McCain ... is not his age but his mental state. I'd vote for a 70-something if he or she wasn't a loon."

    Exactly! Age alone isn't a disqualifier but McBush3 seems to incresingly demonstrate his failing faculties (due I would venture a guess to onset of Alzheimer's) It's really very sad, but we can not have a person with these problems doing our policy planning and having his finger on the button. It is very disturbing to me, and I am almost 66, that this man doesn't know or
    remember on Friday what he said on Monday, and this is even before you go into his shady and shabby dishonest and immoral past "accomplishments."
    In plain terms McBush3 is INCOMPETENT to be president no matter what the glimpse at medical records claims about his health. Don't forget, those much much trumpeted reconds had NO PSYCHIATRIC reports. What about Miss Vicki's tax returns? What about Johnny's little problems with the FEC?? The list goes on and on. Come on MSM start doing your jobs!
  • bill__free · 1 year ago
    You bring up an excellent point. I had thought about how bush has aged in office and I had wondered why mccain would even want to put himself in that situation.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    the McSpin campaign is doing that tricky little thing of crying victim every time the Obama camp calls him on something...the other day Obama pointed out that McSpin incorrectly stated the troops had been drawn down to pre-surge levels, and the retort was..."the Obama campaign is resorting to tired old attack politics" or some-such BS...and this crap about Obama playing the age card is ridiculous. it's a legitimate point, ESPECIALLY since McSpin goofs up so much....which is it, senility or stupidity?
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    the problem is, when they respond with "the Obama campaign is resorting to tired old attack politics", the MSM goes on to a new question.

    instead of following up with "Well, senator mccain did say that the troop level had dropped to pre-surge levels... how is Obama's statement untrue?"
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    absolutely.

    and i'd love to hear some media critter ask McBush...It appeared Senator Lieberman had to whisper a correction in your ear, sir. can you see how this looks to the American public and can you explain what this phenomenon is?
  • Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago
    "Which is it, senility or stupidity?"

    One or the other or both, the result is the same:
    John McCain is INCOMPETENT to be president!
  • ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith) · 1 year ago
    It's a fine line though. Of course an intelligent discussion on the topic is needed, McCain is a little long in the tooth, but the Dems have to be careful not to attribute every McCain gaffe to age or "confusion". After a while it will look like they are simply trying to use his age against him, and many people may be turned off by that. If he is not mentally or physically up to the task of being POTUS, I'm sure what will be a very energetic and demanding general election will soon bring those issues to life. Heck, Clinton is 10 years McCains junior, and Obama close to 20, and they looked pooped by the end of the primaries.

    I don't automatically write someone whos older off, just because I know a lot of senior citizens who are still pretty much on top of their game. My grandmother is in her late 80s and she still walks 3 miles a day and does volunteer tutoring for illiterate adults. She's as sharp as a tack and can keep up with someone half her age. Is she representative of the norm, no, but I at the very least the Dems should let McCain dig his own grave if his age is really affecting him that much.
  • DCinDC · 1 year ago
    There is something wrong with McCain mentally. He seems to forget things. I do believe it is old age.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    I'm actually more concerned about his 'I'm right, I don't care what the facts say' additude and his temper.

    his age isn't one of my main concerns (hell, I've dated guys older than him).

    the temper and lack of a grasp of the real world, THAT'S troubling to me.
  • Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago
    "I'm right. I don't care what the facts say."
    "...lack of a grasp of the real world."

    Now why do those elements remind me of G.W. Bush???
    And ole Johhny keeps saying he isn't gonna be McBush3?

    Haha, yeah Johnny, tell us another one!!!
  • WindmillChasr · 1 year ago
    What's up with the McCain ads all over the blog???
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    they must be buying a ton of Google ads... John doesn't have any say in what content shows up on Ablog.
  • HereinDC · 1 year ago
    i don't mind McCain ads on John's site......
    It's a TOTAL waste of Money for the McCain Campagin to post on this site....even though I know it's a generic google ad.
  • FiOnion · 1 year ago
    They don't show up for non-American readers! I've been wondering what you-all are drinking cos I never saw any McCain ads here....
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    Make McCain and Obama take this pledge: No attacks on the candidates' wives.

    Obama will accept because he's class act. McCain won't because...he just doesn't know any better. ;-)
  • Malcolm · 1 year ago
    No attacks on wives, fine. No attacks related to wives, not so fine. I think one of McCain's real target spots is Carol. Most Americans don't even know Carol exists. I gave a brief history to a leaning-McCain, gave him a reference to verify it. He rang me back and said you're right, that's not acceptable. I'll go Obama. If you have leaning-McCain friends, clients, or whatevers, make sure they know the history.
  • Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago
    Miss Vicki needs to be investigated.She's carrying the swag. Without her beer money ole Johnny would be a broken-down used-car salesman
    rather than broken-down politician. Miss Vicki - good-time girl and drug
    addict! How about Vicki's tax-returns Johnny?? It is definitely time to give another look to the whole Keating mess.
  • mauro7inf · 1 year ago
    By the way, race and gender DO affect job performance in many ways -- they affect public perception, which is part of being a figurehead. In my opinion, Obama's race is a positive thing here.
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    nuke that cloud!!!!
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    McCain: Gotta nuke somethin'! :-)
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    BREAKING......

    NBC/WSJ Poll:

    Obama 47%
    McCain 41%

  • ffbuzz · 1 year ago
    "By the way, race and gender DO affect job performance in many ways -- they affect public perception, which is part of being a figurehead. In my opinion, Obama's race is a positive thing here."

    What?
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    I think he's right actually...

    It might be a bit biased (thinking of the song 'everyone's a little bit racist' from Avenue Q)... but I liked the idea that America was ready for either a woman or a black man as President.

    It made me feel like, in the face of all the shit we've dealt with during the chimp years... there's still a shred of progress in America.

    both candidates faced a 'glass ceiling'... I'm ready for there NOT to be another christian white guy in the White House.

    so, in that aspect, race and gender DO affect my vote.
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    NBC/WSJ poll shows Obama leading McCain 47% to 41%.

    Obama leads among women: 52-33%
    Obama leads among those who voted for Clinton: 61-19
    Obama leads among Hispanics: 62-28
    Obama leads among white women: 46-39
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/11/175435/...
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    To my mind, anyone who is at an advanced age (and don't forget, the lifespan of the white male in the US is around 78, regardless of all the advertising touting 60 being the new 40 and all that crap), anyone who can't let go of power at that age is just, well, a power-monger.

    At 65, after 50 years of working since I got a PT job at 15, I was through with trying to prove my mettle, and wanted to unwind, enjoy the rest of my life and relax. Anyone who doesn't after a lifetime of work has issues...
  • Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago
    Amen to that brother!
  • allainjules · 1 year ago
    According to me, John McCain is vrey old and he cannot past 4 years in White House.

    http://allainjulesblog.blogspot.com/
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    I am the same age as McSame, and I am a little slower each year on retrieving information from my aging brain cells---unless it's about something that happened 40 years ago, or more.
    So, it's easy to get confused as your brain obeys a slightly lower speed limit.
    However, I know some 80 year olds who have perfect memories and are quick to retrieve.
  • MorgaineSwann · 1 year ago
    Didn't people learn anything from Reagan? He had Alzheimer's when he was in office - I told people at the time to wait a few years after he was out and they'd announce it, which they did - and he was the worst president ever, up to that time. McCain has some kind of cognitive impairment . I don't know if it's from age or PTSD or what, but it's quite clear when he speaks that something is wrong with him. I can't believe anyone would consider putting that guy in charge of our foreign policy, let alone our nukes!

    It is not "playing the age card" to talk about this - a candidates fitness to hold office is the most important decision voters have to make. This is a valid concern that has global implications.
  • Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago
    Well said! I couldn't agree more!
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    someone asked McDon'tCallMeOld whether he uses a Mac or a PC...

    he said, neither. he's "illiterate" and relies on his wife for computer stuff.
    that's pretty bad.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Just as well.

    He'd have a heart attack if he saw Cindy's ad at Adult Friend Finder anyway.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    Har!

    that would explain it...and here i thought it was some war wound that kept him from being able to use a keyboard...
  • Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago
    Geez...at least Dubya knew about the "internets."
  • lynn47 · 1 year ago
    It would be interesting to see pics of different Presidents and how they aged in office, then have someone do a guesstimate of what McWar would look like.
  • dciii · 1 year ago
    I don't think it is morally wrong to question McCains age, some of the jokes concerning walkers are hillarious,however, I do think it is wrong in the sense that it will not help Obama win the general. Let me explain.

    The people who enjoy hearing the mention of McCain's age are, more than likely, already Obama supporters. The people who get angry are, more than likely, McCain supporters and know matter what will not vote for Obama.

    There are many, many people who are undecided as of now. When anyone makes a point of questioning McCains fitness for office based on his age, the response from these undecideds will be sympathy. I honestly could not begin to explain why this is so. It just is.

    In closing, don't give voters any reason to sympathize with John McCain. Take your pick on ANY issue related to policy. McCain will keep us in Iraq and almost certainly start another war with Iran. That's a good one.

    Obama 08
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Well, McCain's too dumb to be president, that's for sure.
  • Antigone · 1 year ago
    I don't really think it's unfair to question whether his age makes him unfit to hold office. If you listen to the man give one speech - he honestly sounds like he's not all there. He reminds me of my great aunt - when she first began showing signs of dementia. We don't need somebody like that with their finger right next to the little red button. And I agree with OlderAndWiser. Any man that age who's still trying to win the Presidency - is power hungry. And one Chimpy is enough.

    You also have to think about who McCain is going to choose as his running mate. You think Dubya's been calling all the shots in that White House? Hell no. For all intents and purposes - Dick Cheney is the real president - and look where it has gotten us. Our reputation in tatters, globally despised, and being compared to the Nazis - a valid comparison. If anything happens to McCain - he suffers some stroke or gets even more senile while in office - it could be a replay of this administration with the VP running the show. You want to tell me you like the idea of Mitt Romney or - god help us all - that bigot Mike Huckabee - seizing control of this country?
  • andyphx · 1 year ago
    McWhere'smycane has made several negative references to Obama's age. You just don't hear him whining and wetting his depends over it. Mr. I've fallen and I can't get up needs to start acting like the macho man he's trying to portray himself as being. Republican's are nothing but whinny little lying bitches!
  • fl79tr · 1 year ago
    I know this might sound a little below the belt to some, but we have got to find a way to articulate it to the undecided voters and republicans in a way that doesn't come off like we're just making a joke out of McCain, because seriously, it's is no joke, this dude way too old. I try to say things like, "...well, what kind of jobs are most 71 year olds considered qualified for...?" or "...if he did get elected, in order for him to live out his second term he would have to beat the national life span average by about 5 years, its not impossible but...." or, for young people, "are you sure you want to entrust your (long) future to someone who will most likely be dead by the time you graduate college, or have your first child?" -Just some ideas. what do you guys think?
  • dcredhead · 1 year ago
    Golda Meir was 71 when she took office and 76 when she left. Ghandi was 78 when he was killed.

    That's all I'm going to say. My mother is 80 years old and let me tell you, she's sharper than I am. Oh, and when it comes to "losing their minds," Alzheimers hits people in their 50's and 60's as well as 70. So if age REALLY is relevent, then may I suggest we cut people off in this country for public office at 65.
  • dcredhead · 1 year ago
    Oh, and one more thing: Ageism is REAL in this country. If you don't believe me, I would suggest you talk to older Americans who are trying to get jobs after being laid off.
  • intotheabyss81 · 1 year ago
    Article II Section 1-"neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years" if you can be too young to do something- you can be too old to do it as well. The framers assumed intellegent adults wouldn't need this spelled out for them.
  • MNUSA · 1 year ago
    It's not age. It's health. People say Cheney is different. I've always wondered if it's the meds he's taking - which can affect your thinking a lot. Unfortunately, we don't vet the candidates' health. But then we wouldn't have had Kennedy, FDR or even Lincoln. What I look forward to is the debates. Seeing the two of them together. Think back to Kennedy/Nixon. Interesting that so many of you don't think he's all there. I'll have to pay more attention.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    I think age should be determined on an individual basis. In McCain's case I would say yes, he is too old. The office of president is a stress filled and not many 70 year olds are up to that kind of stress, especially now when this country is in such a mess.
  • SociologistTina · 1 year ago
    Excellent post, John. This is NOT a prejudice, which basically means a conclusion drawn based upon prejudgment. This is a medically valid concern about the limits of this man's cognitive function, among others. Perhaps our focus should be on his apparent cognitive function and the lack thereof, rather than the presumed CAUSE of such dysfunction.
  • ClayPotts · 1 year ago
    Even though McCain is the king of old farts, it is better for Democrats to play him as the "Bomb Iran" joker.
  • kirkaracha · 1 year ago
    Being president is hard on anyone. It ages people more than their actual time in office. Look at pictures of Clinton or GWB before they became president and after, and they're decades younger than McCain. Here's Bush in 2000 and more recently.