AMERICAblog: John Edwards mentions John McCain's adulterous affair
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Playing the affair game can really backfire.
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· 1 year ago
You had an affair with another man?
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· 1 year ago
I take that as a yes.
Bubbles
· 1 year ago
I wonder if they could get John McCain's first wife to speak at the Democratic convention.
Or at least fake that they are going to, to get the press talking about it.
All's fair in love and war.
shell
· 1 year ago
John McCain's first wife is a stinking Republican -- decades-long friend with Nancy Reagan. So much for that suggestion.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
That's a better idea than Obama's advisors have had all week...
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
B-b-but! Th-th-that's different! John McCain was a tortured war hero, so he deserved all the "comfort" and "healing" he could get when he got back to an ungrateful nation who spat on war heroes. Edwards was just a shallow slick uppity country boy shyster who bilked millions upon millions from honest doctors and helpful insurance companies, so he doesn't get any "free pass" on the adultery front!!
shell
· 1 year ago
Speaking of which, did any of you, old enough, ever SEE anyone SPIT on a returning Viet Nam vet? I sure didn't.
More GOP/media LIES. No, not "falsehoods" -- stinking lies. Yes, yes, I realize that somewhere, someone might have spit on a vet. But not more than 10 or so, nationwide, over several years.
Mikki --SE Pennsylvania
· 1 year ago
Yes, I am old enough and No, I never saw anyone spit on a returning veteran. But I wouild considerm aking a change if McBush3 were to be anywhere around! I think he becomes more odious and deceitful every day!
Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas
· 1 year ago
I keep praying every day that there is nothing even remotely like this for Barry Obama.
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· 1 year ago
Bite your fingers. Obama will be fine.
Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas
· 1 year ago
glasses, I surely hope you are right. The odds are so stacked against him with the MSM, the racists, and the system. One hint of scandal and he would fold
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· 1 year ago
I have a good feeling about him. Although I supported Edwards, I sensed something but didn't look into it. I will look at Obama closer tonight and see if I see anything but I absolutely don't expect anything.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
I supported Edwards, too, but only through Nevada and Carolina. Then I switched to Obama, sensing that Edwards couldn't win and that there was something the matter with him in that I could never really connect with him.
Butch1
· 1 year ago
If there is nothing, you can count on the town-criers to invent something.
ron071
· 1 year ago
Once again Butch1 is right on target. Rove is a man who lies to live and lives to lie. That is why McBush was told to use him to direct his campaign. Only lies and some racism are available to Mc Bush whose record of 26 years is a sham both politically and morally.
Butch1
· 1 year ago
Unfortunately, we will have to find a way to flush out Rove and show that he is behind all of this. That may distress McBush enough to fire him. ( or at least push him back under the rock from whence he came.
ron071
· 1 year ago
Butch1: Before McSame's director Rove is " flushed out " perhaps he can be forced to obey the subpoenas issued to him. This man is above the law as is the entire criminal administration we've suffered under for 8 years.
Butch1
· 1 year ago
This of course, would take some leadership from Congress to put his feet to the fire, but we know none of them with any power, has the cojones to do anything about it except whine, wring hands, and complain that we do not have a super majority to do anything. Pelosi may look into the question whether they are going to bring impeachment up or not, but she has always said that they were not going to impeach anyone. She is just trying to run out the clock. All the eyes of the country are watching them and if they ignore their duty, they may have to pay the price by losing their seat in Congress. Who knows, if that happens, perhaps, we should add their names to those being indited as conspirators and let the chips fall where they may. We need to clean House and Senate of this dead wood and republican sympathizers and we do that by elections. (hopefully if those haven't been tinkered with)
ron071
· 1 year ago
butch: The calculation to leave the impeachment fiasco off the table will be played out in the election. Thus far, the polls indicate a strong democratic lead in congressional contests. If this eventuates, the strategy wil be viewed as successful. ron
I this allows them to go after Bush et al after he has no power to control the situation, I would be for that, but I am also hearing that the democrats what to drop it and just move on, that is where I have the problem with our "leadership." I hope there are smarter minds than I am working out the strategy for this.
ron071
· 1 year ago
Butch, Keep the faith. First things first or never. There are enough in-the-pipeline actions that will bring the Bush/Cheney disasters to a proper end but ONLY if the Democrats gain real contrrol in Congress. Without that, nothing can happen. Their strategy seems correct. Keep the faith. ron
Fingers & toes crossed, but I won't hold my breath, I've been disappointed so many times in these past eight years. ;-) I guess the dems will have to put up finally or be voted down. Here's hoping the will do the right thing.
ron071
· 1 year ago
Butch1: You will only be disappointed when your expectations are not realistic. If the democrats have effective control ( veto proof ) of congress we will have reason to expect more of them. Keep the faith. First things first. We must get rid of the Republicans who wrought disaster upon the US for the past 8 years of the Bush/Cheney admin. and 10 of the past 12 years of Republican congressional control with 2 more years of effective control to thwart most progressive action.
If the Dems would only do their job. I guess what bothers me more is that when a party is in control of the House or the Senate, they get to control which bills are brought up for a vote. I have yet, read a reason why they continue to bring up bills that hurt us rather than tabling them like the republicans have done time again. The immunity for the telephone companies did not have to be addressed this session yet, they trip over themselves to help republicans get what they want. I would think if you didn't have a clear majority vote on something that important, you would keep it off the table until you did. I guess we'll see soon enough. I still plan on voting in as many democrats as I am allowed but after that, we had better see them stand up for us and either bring charges on this lawless bunch or explain why not.
ron071
· 1 year ago
Butch: Keep the faith. You WILL see a change if and when real control of Congress is in Democratic hands and Republican obstructionism is eliminated. Real responsibility for the agenda and the outcomes only exists when real control is at hand. Ron
Ok. Meanwhile, are you aware that over the past eight years this government has approved building over 600 FEMA detention (concentration) camps that are functioning with staff and ready for its inhabitants if or when Bush declares Martial Law? They claim it is for illegal immigrants ( 600 of them?) but one can see them also being used for dissenter's of this government, "enemy of the state", "terrorists", or "enemy combatants" which ever Bush decides to call the persons in question. Google "FEMA Detention Camps."
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
I think that if there was anything of the sort on Obama, it would have already been leaked.
Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas
· 1 year ago
Yeah I hope so..but you are right
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
No need to pray.
There isn't anything like this in BARACK Obama's past.
The guy's a straight arrow.
Ben Dover
· 1 year ago
John Sydney McCain is also guilty of prostituting himself out to a power hungry trollop who thinks she can use her $100 million dollar "worth" to buy her way into the position of First Lady. A "position" that would be one of the few she hasn't tried yet. And has Cindi McTart passed a recent drug test? I just don't believe that the American people are ready to put a recovering drug addict, who stole prescription medications from those that needed them, into the office of First Lady.
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
I just don't believe that the American people are ready to put a recovering drug addict, who stole prescription medications from those that needed them, into the office of First Lady.
Quit smoking that silly weed. The American people put a druggie/drunk into the Oval Office. What makes you think that they would hesitate for a second to make another druggie the First Lady.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
:-)
Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas
· 1 year ago
"Oh I like Ms Thang Rodeo Queen." (overheard from Betty Ford)
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
Remember the big deal the press made about Kitty Dukakis? But yes, Cindy McCain gets a pass.
sullivan
· 1 year ago
It was a "gotcha" moment to mention McCain. He didn't have to do that. I think that anybody's affairs are their own business. But don't expect the MSM to go after McCain now....he is protected and coddled by the press!
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
I wish to god John Edwards would dive into the nearest deep hold and stay there until December.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
hole, that is
ron071
· 1 year ago
The John Edwards' affair has already received more coverage than it deserves. It is a private matter and does not deserve political coverage. Surely, when the candidate McCain has been serially involved in adulteries, there is no reason to dwell upon John Edwards.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
Amen.
Ben Dover
· 1 year ago
John Sydney McCain should answer the question, with a simple yes or no, "Have you ever had a sexual affair with anyone while married to your second wife."
Which is it McCain? Yes, or no? Answer the question!
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
I underestimated Edwards.
Love that he got a shot in on McCain.
Most of the country doesn't even know about Gramps' past.
Good job, John.
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· 1 year ago
Yeah, I caught that, too.
flashcard
· 1 year ago
I was channel surfing the talking head circuit last night and the topic that was mentioned a lot was 'how will this effect the Democratic party?" Absolutely no mention of McBush , his marital history and how it has affected his campaign.
DaveTheAngryRhodeIslander
· 1 year ago
McCain will get a pass on this because he was a POW and POWs are allowed by the Constitution to have affairs, marry more than once, and call their wives the "C" word in public - The POW card trumps all others.
Mikki --SE Pennsylvania
· 1 year ago
Maybe, but he was POW who collaboraed with the enemy. In my book, that trumps the POW crap and really gives the lie to the "war-hero" fantasy that McBush3 has burnished and polished all these years trying to keep it alive. I really wish some real POWs and war-heros, ones who had no pull with family members in the command structure, would speak up and out and give the final lie to McBush3s long-running attempts at self-aggrandizement. McCain is a deceitful, petty, little man and moral leper.
vwcat
· 1 year ago
ha. this morning on Washington Journal on Cspan, the caller question was on the Edwards affair. Several people who called in talked about mcCain's affair with Cindy and why the media ignores this but, goes on and on about Edwards. They talked about the sick wife McCain abandoned. ect. Was very good to hear.
dad
· 1 year ago
mctwoaffairs
at least
Dianne_in_DC
· 1 year ago
McCain's various adulterous affairs came up on the Diane Rheem show yesterday. She dismissed it as gossip. I think this is a great opportunity to get it out there. The Democrats always try to fight "fair" when the Republicans go dirty on us. Nows a great time to turn the tide against them.
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· 1 year ago
Busboy had an adulterous affair with Edwards.
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
Awe, come on. Busboy had an adulterous affair with Edward's dog.
Webster
· 1 year ago
And the dog puked.
GrMtGirl
· 1 year ago
Glad he did, but it was such a sort of shy punch don't think many picked up on it. The present caliber of news casters are having hay day with this. It will undoubtedly ruin John's chances in future politics, but, other than being of the same political party John and Obama have no connection that I know of. This will keep the media busy while Obama gets a well deserved break.
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· 1 year ago
Send positive vibes out on your finger tips to Obama and his family starting a little holiday vacation to recharge...
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
I can't believe how many idiots there are in the country. I was reading the comments on the Edwards story in The Chicago Tribune, and there are several people there insisting that Barack Obama had already named John Edwards his VP choice a couple of weeks ago but is now going to withdraw his name. What alternative universe are these people living in? They are either idiots or Rovlings trying to spread The Great Lie around. The Edwards story is very sad, especially for Elizabeth, but if the Republicans want to make hay out of it, the parallels are between Edwards and McCain and will have to be brought out.
Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas
· 1 year ago
But those parallels will NOT be brought out because the corporate media are trying desperately to restage 2000...bring the vote close enough to steal with Diebold and the SCOTUS. Or even better help Rove stage a 9/11 so Dick Cheney can command a total coup d'etat and martial law around Halloween.
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· 1 year ago
Rove has been behind most of the trolls on the internet and 'college republicans' are most of his recruits.
Maybe I'm wrong and I might admit that more so and quickly, but what if these individuals are actually not more mammal than something else...
just sayin'
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· 1 year ago
I mean, they don't seem human to me.
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· 1 year ago
I've intuited them for years and there's never anything there. They don't even have any personality or even what location part of any country they're from. They're just there. And they still support trolly shrub.
Busboy isn't one of them. He had a bad car accident and changed his personality.
Gorgonzola
· 1 year ago
The Sunday morning BS artists will be hard pressed to castigate Edwards and paint him as a monster while they continue to cover up the corrupt behavior of their annointed hero, the saintly John McCain. Their years of experience covering up the criminal behavior of Bush/Cheney has prepared them for this challenge and I'm sure they'll pull it off in their usual perfidious style.
foolme1ns
· 1 year ago
Oh, no they will do just fine. They will just completely ignore the fact that John McCain was laying pipe with Cindy while still married to a crippled woman. Adultery is ONLY relevant when a democrat does it. For a republican, it's no big deal. Sort of like breaking federal laws. You just don't mention it when it is a republican. Such bad taste and all of that.
The real question is going to be, can Obama recover from John Edwards affair?
Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas
· 1 year ago
Please read this today if you have not gone there already. It's the McCain history in a nutshell by a Phoenix reporter and it's very scathing about them both. It's long but worth saving and reading and forwarding...
Just how partisan can the media get? They are trying to spin it that Edwards adultery is Obama's problem as if Obama committed the adultery. Fine! I agree that Edwards is disgusting especially since his wife has had a reoccurrance of cancer and probably won't survive. How the hell is this Obama's problem? They are just trying to distract from McCains repeated adulterous affairs. If anything Edwards adultery reflects on McCain and neither McCain nor Edwards are fit to sit in the Orval Office.
Of course, we already have a far worse excample of lack of fitness for the Oval Office, but need I say who. Just will say, eveb Barney, his dog is vastly over-qualified compared to his master. Any discussion of who is qualified in terms of morality, character, intelligence or experience are silly when you consider that revolting ass.
RevDrBillyBob
· 1 year ago
The MSM doesn't mention the John-Cindy Adultery ? NO KIDDING. . . . and guess who else doesn't mention it ? YOU . . . you godless heathen libruls are s-s-s-s-s-cared to bring it up, just like you're scared to bring up the Vietnam Chickenhawk status of middle-aged Reep supporters of the war in Iraq. Quick, libbies ! Run away ! Ah just brought up a couple of ISSUES !!! "Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah ! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah !" Wimps.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Nothing's more conservative than kneeling on the floor in a public restroom awaiting a stranger's erect penis, eh? You corn-servatives are a perv-riddled hoot!
foolme1ns
· 1 year ago
Well this story broke yesterday, so it's been about 18 to 24 hours. Has Obama apologized for John Edwards affair yet?
How will John Edwards affair effect Obama's campaign?
How will John McCain's affair and abandonment of his first wife effect Obama's campaign?
What will be the negative impact of John McCain's offering his wife up for a titty contest be on Obama's campaign?
With all this negative publicity keep Obama's lead over McCain in the low 10's?
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· 1 year ago
I think I'm going to not donate again if PBS keeps this donation drive. Just shut the fuck up and maybe a scroll on the bottom. Would you believe that the travel guy is a fundie tring to tie in his travel experiences with the fundie interpretation of medeval times and ancient buildings and stairs. It always includes stairs back then.
Ben Dover
· 1 year ago
Why won't John Sydney McCain step forward and clear his name of adulterous allegations? Why won't he answer a simple question either yes or no, "Have you had an adulterous affair with anyone while married to your second wife?"
He won't.
Because he can't.
ron071
· 1 year ago
Ben Dover has omitted the other half of the question. What about the affair while married to his FIRST WIFE? We have in McBush a serial adulterer.
ron071
· 1 year ago
BenDover needs to suggest WHO will ask that question. How can the poor candidate clear his name if the question is NEVER asked?
"He apparently also made payments to the former campaign aide, Andrew Young, who has publicly claimed to be the father of Hunter's child." McClatchy
Captain_America
· 1 year ago
So is the whole implication here that they were both nailing this woman?
mirth
· 1 year ago
That appears to be the story.
What isn't apparent is why was Mr. Young, who admits his liaison with her and claims paternity of her child, who remained with his wife and is still with his wife, also receiving payments.
Truth isn't truth until all of it is told.
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· 1 year ago
What I get is the Edwards wanted sex like any guy and it was too painful for his wife.
Let's not discuss this anymore.
Captain_America
· 1 year ago
The best thing that could come out of this Edwards thing is for McCain supporters who hate the Clintons because of Monica and now laugh at Edwards because of this get the TRUTH thrown in their face about St. McCain.
Somebody has to get on like BillO or Sean Insanity and mention the McCain affair on the air and get it out there.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
The slicing and dicing over sexually compromised individuals is silly as is angst over the numbers of morality angels dancing on particular emotionally retarded pinheads. Is fame so potent an aphrodisiac that powerful men regularly swan dive into oblivion for the sake of incessant procreative urges? I hardly think so. As with the torrid sexual puzzles most of us can call our own, it is safest to assume missing jigsaw pieces of cause and effect even within individual reflection much less the dull public beam of media. If sexual sin must be barred from our virginal White House, then playful Johnny must not be allowed to enter. The Edwards family should be left in private by the media excitement addicts but I really feel Mr. Edwards inappropriately collected campaign donations and should return these funds to his betrayed supporters including myself.
ClayPotts
· 1 year ago
Cindy and John McCain's Viagra values will save McChristians from the chains of chastity. The Adulterous Duo make Bill's antics look like mere foreplay. Throw away that unread Bible, the McCains will show America the religious right way to do it.
Butch1
· 1 year ago
One can count on the media to snuff out this news story about McBush. They're all in it together. I guess it will have to be the blogs and Air America to keep hounding the news media about their apparent lack of balance and what is off-limits and what is on.
ron071
· 1 year ago
Butch1 is right on the money. It surely seems as if the MSM will have to be " forced " to do their jobs. Remove the rock and discover the worm. I hope that the Obama campaign uses some of its cash to run TV ads challenging the media to cover events of interest and significance about McBush . This will be the major challenge to get a balanced campaign coverage out.
Butch1
· 1 year ago
MSNBC will probably be the only station to address this and I think it may be on the Keith Olbermann show, Countdown. One knows, that Leslie (Wolfe) Blitzer of CNN, will go out of his way to avoid making McBush look bad. Then, of course, there is FOX noise. heh heh
Bill W.
· 1 year ago
John Edwards only had this affair so he could prove to Ann Coulter he wasn't gay.
A friend Jamie emailed that yesterday. I do believe he's got a point.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
That's also quotable. Thank you.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Adultry is not exclusive to the politicians...Media figures also enjoy downlow dickie dunkin with a wide variety of living and, we merely assume, dead partners and with or without diapers. Didn't George Will have to have a cocaine-coated hamster removed from his rectum at a DC Emergency Room?
Indigo
· 1 year ago
May I quote you?
Indigo
· 1 year ago
No reporter ever talked about Eisenhower's girlfriend during the 1950s and she traveled with the press corps. There wasn't much in the press about JFK's girlfriends and even less about the extremely attentive Secret Service man that accompanied Jacqueline. And as for Gerald Ford's son Steven . . . well! and the press never said a thing.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
I think Ike's girlfriend was no longer his girlfriend after the end of WWII. I recall reading that Truman told him to give her up and come home to Mamie or else. I think the or else was on the lines of being demoted or perhaps even court martialed. It was, and maybe still is, against the rules for officers (maybe E.M.s too) to commit adultery.
maudegonne
· 1 year ago
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/... McCain's broken marriage and fractured Reagan friendship The nature and timing of his divorce from Carol Shepp alienated key friends -- and his version doesn't always match that in court documents. By Richard A. Serrano and Ralph Vartabedian, LATimes Staff Writers July 11, 2008
Outside her Bel-Air home, Nancy Reagan stood arm in arm with John McCain and offered a significant -- but less than exuberant -- endorsement. "Ronnie and I always waited until everything was decided, and then we endorsed," the Republican matriarch said in March. "Well, obviously this is the nominee of the party." They were the only words she would speak during the five-minute photo op.
jr
· 1 year ago
"I like lobbyist poontang"-John McCain "John McCain's a great family man. He's still married to his high school sweetheart Cindy"-cable news
ron071
· 1 year ago
Are those in the MSM HYPOCRITES? They are so very interested in the Edwards' affair even though he is not a candidate for anything. Why are they not giving ANY coverage to the McCain AFFAIR (s ) ? Can you explain this? Why has there been no follow up to the sudden and mysterious disappearance of Vicki Iseman? Can you explain this? Sadly, the explanation is that control of the MSM has fallen into the hands of conservative conglomerates and the MSM is no longer a free press.
Bobby
· 1 year ago
Bush is a mass murderer. Why isn't that being discussed by the MSM? How many have died because of him, huh?
Isn't that more of an outrage than extramarital sex? We are a sick sick country.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
National debate question for Obama and McCain. Obama answer then McCain:
"If your wife gained weight and became very ill, what would you do if you met a young beer heiress named Cindy who let you know she thought she would make a great trophy wife? Would you cheat on your sick wife, or would you do the next right thing? Finally, what does that say about your judgment?"
WhoAmI
· 1 year ago
This article is featured on Yahoo's homepage, along with the headline: "Is Edwards scandal worse for Obama or McCain?" I know it's not MSM but it's a start.
National debate question #2. Obama answer then McCain:
"Where in the world is Vicki Iseman? What happened to her, and did you have anything to do with her disappearance?"
shell
· 1 year ago
I hope some online detectives in DC are watching the obituaries.
ron071
· 1 year ago
Any serious investigation would have turned up the " missing " Vickie Iseman by now. How strange the MSM has become.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
Debate question #3:
"The American people see a lot of the candidate's children. Are there any other children from any other marriages that the public does not get to see? If you have had other marriages, who are those children and why aren't they featured in your campaigns?"
alexa
· 1 year ago
He has a lot of nerve to drag McCain's or any one else's name into his mess. What a creep!
Ben Dover
· 1 year ago
You mean it's not right to question Grampa McSames fidelity, or lack thereof, with his first and second wives? Interesting.
ron071
· 1 year ago
alexa has an aversion to equal treatment. If it's a " mess " then McSame must share it since he is as "GUILTY".
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
A lot of nerve just mentioning Gramps did the same thing to his sick wife? Uh, the media has a lot of nerve NOT dragging Mr. McSame into this mess. They have a coronary when John Edwards pulls the same number McSame already did on his wife with Cindy Henson McCain?
ron071
· 1 year ago
cowboyneo: The reason for partial coverage in the adultery area is clear and that is MSM bias. It's as simple as that. ron
Mark Green mentioned it on TV the night the story broke and in the HuffPo. Josh Marhsall on Talking Points Memo speculates on how the media will handle it. (8/9)
shell
· 1 year ago
More of the same. The media will say (if they even mention McCain's adultery at all) that it is "ancient history." Remember that fat GOPer, during the Clinton-Monica impeachment hearings? He was leading the charge, when it was found out (although everyone in DC knew) that he had a YEARS-long affair with someone, when he was married. The funniest part was that he brushed it off, calling it a "youthful indiscretion." While it went on when he was in his 40s. haha Youthful, only to a McCain. And that is what McCain will say. And what the media will follow with, if they even mention it.
And Iseman? Well, you know, it was never PROVEN. (Why can't DC sleuths ever get proof, like they do with Democrats?)
ron071
· 1 year ago
Has a missing person's report been made for the " missing " Vicki Iseman? Where is she? Why has she fled? One would think that these questions would be raised. Why have they been ignored?
shell
· 1 year ago
In a message dated 8/11/2008 3:05:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, writes:
Has a missing person's report been made for the " missing " Vicki Iseman? Where is she? Why has she fled? One would think that these questions would be raised. Why have they been ignored?
Shell: It is only reasonable that people who go missing be reported as such. Where is she and why is no one looking for her? It has the Republican smell all over it and the in-the-pocket-media plays along with this latest cover-up. I believe that if she were tracked down the funding source for her hide-away would also be revealed. But it's John Edwards who needs to be followed and exposed. The smell is overwhelming! Ron
The American Family value guy John McCain cheated on his wife and just left for younger and richer and the UN-American value guy is still with his wife...It's all about the values stupid go figure.
shell
· 1 year ago
And that same scenario plays out over and over. The GOP -- and the media -- still love Newt -- who was married 3 times. And always left his wives for a younger floozy. (The first time while the wife was in the hospital, recovering from cancer surgery.) Of course, she was older than he was! (You can't blame him, though -- it was a marriage of convenience for Newt, since she was his TEACHER.)
And, just like that fat GOP SOB, he was caught getting oral sex from a 3rd party DURING the Clinton impeachment hearings!
America is so fucked up.
ron071
· 1 year ago
193 army is quite correct except that one of the " values " of the McSame crowd is the " hidden " value. Hear no evil and speak no evil and everything will turn out ok.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
John Edwards needs to see a therapist for a long-term makeover.
mschafer13
· 1 year ago
Personal life vs. Political life
Yes, he's sleazy. Yes, he shouldn't have a political career after this. But come on. This is a personal issue. Leave it alone. This affair shouldn't cause Edwards' political ideologies to die with it. We need others to take up his goals and ideas because, as uncouth as his behavior was, his political ideals are still worth fighting for.
NO! This is not just a personal issue. At this critical point in our history, John Edwards risked the election with lies that would surely have been revealed during his campaign.
Do you believe any of us would have donated to his campaign had we known the truth?
shell
· 1 year ago
The question is: WHY would you not have donated to him? Because he cheated on his wife ... or there was the danger he might have gotten caught?
Americans need to decide. IS adultery that bad? If so, then why do the majority of Americans cheat on their spouses? And if Americans are honest, and say adultery isn't that bad, why should politicians be any different? Of course, they aren't serious about adultery -- if they were, Newt, Henry Hyde, and scores of other GOPers wouldn't be around any more. But they are. (What about the GOPig who went to a prostitute and wore diapers, and was then applauded when he returned to the House?) It is a joke. A game. And of course the very serious Religious Right turns their head.
For the record, this isn't a "you are saying this because YOU are an adulterer" scenario. I have never cheated on a spouse, or even a boyfriend.
But that's America -- outlaw prostitution -- what's the crime? Outlaw marijuana -- what's the crime? Prostitution is no harm, no foul. Marijuana is only illegal because it is easy to grow in your back yard -- the govt. can't get taxes from its sale.
Everything in America is about $$$$$ -- not "morals."
mirth
· 1 year ago
shell,
This is not about adultry. As you will notice, my comment states that his behavior risked giving this election to John McCain. This is the issue.
As for who John Edwards fucks, I could not care less. I DO care that he stood in front of national cameras and lied to the public and to his supporters about fucking one of his campaign workers.
At some point the US should have the discussion about open and more truthful marriages, but in 2008, in this critical election, with mighty forces trying to keep the government in their control, with the very survival of our country in the balance, this isn't the time.
Thus, I would not have donated to Edwards had I known the truth.
shell
· 1 year ago
That is why I put on there:
" ... or there was the danger he might have gotten caught?"
As I stated, I see there are two different ideas/ideals.
Why would John Edwards do this in 2008 ... 2007, whatever? Who knows? For years, I have marveled at politicians who do things -- always sex, because, lately, America finds nothing else worthy of losing a candidacy EXCEPT sex -- they know will get them booted. Is it because most politicians love danger? Is it because they feel "entitled?" I would guess it is because of what Edwards himself said -- in other words, he got too cocky. (Sorry about the pun.)
Just know this: give your money to NO ONE if you get squeamish about this sort of thing. It could happen to ANY of the candidates -- yes, even Obama. And, of course, it already HAS happened to McCain, but nothing will be done about it.
ron071
· 1 year ago
mirth, How do you explain any and all contributions to the candidate-adulterer McCain which have long continued after the adultery was well known? Square this for me.
mirth
· 1 year ago
I love easy questions.
Republicans are hypocrites.
mschafer13
· 1 year ago
If he had been the nominee, it would be a public, political issue. And yes, it would have been an enormous disaster. But he's not. He's not in the running for President. He's not in the running for Vice-President. He's not around for anything. It should be an issue between him and his family. And No, he shouldn't have any other life in politics. I agree he should be finished politically.
mirth
· 1 year ago
Until his recent revelation, even if Obama had ruled him out, Obama supporters would have continued our pressure to include Edwards in his administration.
Some of the $ given to the Edwards campaign went to pay the salary of his mistress and, most likely, continues to pay for her silence. He returns all donations under, say, $500 and we'll call it finished. It will then be personal between himself and his family.
Until then, it isn't.
Edit:
On 2nd thought, why should his donation payback be capped? His larger donations should also all be returned.
Return all donations and then it becomes personal.
ron071
· 1 year ago
Why not return all campaign contributions from the candidate adulterer? Equal contributions returns from ALL adulterers would be fair. Let's do it. Will all candidate adulterers stand up?
ron071
· 1 year ago
Thid story of media selectivity has become the poster child for the biased MSM. How on earth can they devote endless time to non-candidate Edwards and ignore candidate McCain's very real adultery? HOW? HOW? HOW? Even McSame supporters will recognize this disparity and should question the entire McSame candidacy.
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Or at least fake that they are going to, to get the press talking about it.
All's fair in love and war.
More GOP/media LIES. No, not "falsehoods" -- stinking lies. Yes, yes, I realize that somewhere, someone might have spit on a vet. But not more than 10 or so, nationwide, over several years.
with the MSM, the racists, and the system. One hint of scandal and he would
fold
be played out in the election. Thus far, the polls indicate a strong
democratic lead in congressional contests. If this eventuates, the strategy wil be
viewed as successful. ron
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in-the-pipeline actions that will bring the Bush/Cheney disasters to a proper end
but ONLY if the Democrats gain real contrrol in Congress. Without that,
nothing can happen. Their strategy seems correct. Keep the faith. ron
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realistic. If the democrats have effective control ( veto proof ) of congress we
will have reason to expect more of them. Keep the faith. First things first.
We must get rid of the Republicans who wrought disaster upon the US for the
past 8 years of the Bush/Cheney admin. and 10 of the past 12 years of
Republican congressional control with 2 more years of effective control to thwart
most progressive action.
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Congress is in Democratic hands and Republican obstructionism is eliminated.
Real responsibility for the agenda and the outcomes only exists when real
control is at hand. Ron
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There isn't anything like this in BARACK Obama's past.
The guy's a straight arrow.
A "position" that would be one of the few she hasn't tried yet.
And has Cindi McTart passed a recent drug test? I just don't believe that the American people are ready to put a recovering drug addict, who stole prescription medications from those that needed them, into the office of First Lady.
Quit smoking that silly weed. The American people put a druggie/drunk into the Oval Office. What makes you think that they would hesitate for a second to make another druggie the First Lady.
(overheard from Betty Ford)
Which is it McCain? Yes, or no? Answer the question!
Love that he got a shot in on McCain.
Most of the country doesn't even know about Gramps' past.
Good job, John.
They talked about the sick wife McCain abandoned. ect.
Was very good to hear.
at least
Maybe I'm wrong and I might admit that more so and quickly, but what if these individuals are actually not more mammal than something else...
just sayin'
Busboy isn't one of them. He had a bad car accident and changed his personality.
The real question is going to be, can Obama recover from John Edwards affair?
http://black-max.dailykos.com/
Of course, we already have a far worse excample of lack of fitness for the Oval Office, but need I say who. Just will say, eveb Barney, his dog is vastly over-qualified compared to his master. Any discussion of who is qualified in terms of morality, character, intelligence or experience are silly when you consider that revolting ass.
You corn-servatives are a perv-riddled hoot!
How will John Edwards affair effect Obama's campaign?
How will John McCain's affair and abandonment of his first wife effect Obama's campaign?
What will be the negative impact of John McCain's offering his wife up for a titty contest be on Obama's campaign?
With all this negative publicity keep Obama's lead over McCain in the low 10's?
He won't.
Because he can't.
"He apparently also made payments to the former campaign aide, Andrew Young, who has publicly claimed to be the father of Hunter's child."
McClatchy
What isn't apparent is why was Mr. Young, who admits his liaison with her and claims paternity of her child, who remained with his wife and is still with his wife, also receiving payments.
Truth isn't truth until all of it is told.
Let's not discuss this anymore.
Somebody has to get on like BillO or Sean Insanity and mention the McCain affair on the air and get it out there.
Is fame so potent an aphrodisiac that powerful men regularly swan dive into oblivion for the sake of incessant procreative urges?
I hardly think so.
As with the torrid sexual puzzles most of us can call our own, it is safest to assume missing jigsaw pieces of cause and effect even within individual reflection much less the dull public beam of media.
If sexual sin must be barred from our virginal White House, then playful Johnny must not be allowed to enter.
The Edwards family should be left in private by the media excitement addicts but I really feel Mr. Edwards inappropriately collected campaign donations and should return these funds to his betrayed supporters including myself.
A friend Jamie emailed that yesterday. I do believe he's got a point.
Didn't George Will have to have a cocaine-coated hamster removed from his rectum at a DC Emergency Room?
McCain's broken marriage and fractured Reagan friendship
The nature and timing of his divorce from Carol Shepp alienated key friends -- and his version doesn't always match that in court documents.
By Richard A. Serrano and Ralph Vartabedian, LATimes Staff Writers
July 11, 2008
Outside her Bel-Air home, Nancy Reagan stood arm in arm with John McCain and offered a significant -- but less than exuberant -- endorsement. "Ronnie and I always waited until everything was decided, and then we endorsed," the Republican matriarch said in March. "Well, obviously this is the nominee of the party." They were the only words she would speak during the five-minute photo op.
"John McCain's a great family man. He's still married to his high school sweetheart Cindy"-cable news
Isn't that more of an outrage than extramarital sex? We are a sick sick country.
"If your wife gained weight and became very ill, what would you do if you met a young beer heiress named Cindy who let you know she thought she would make a great trophy wife? Would you cheat on your sick wife, or would you do the next right thing? Finally, what does that say about your judgment?"
http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/trailhead/?y=1
"Where in the world is Vicki Iseman? What happened to her, and did you have anything to do with her disappearance?"
"The American people see a lot of the candidate's children. Are there any other children from any other marriages that the public does not get to see? If you have had other marriages, who are those children and why aren't they featured in your campaigns?"
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And Iseman? Well, you know, it was never PROVEN. (Why can't DC sleuths ever get proof, like they do with Democrats?)
writes:
Has a missing person's report been made for the " missing " Vicki Iseman?
Where is she? Why has she fled? One would think that these questions would
be raised. Why have they been ignored?
Easy! Because McCain is a Republican.
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such. Where is she and why is no one looking for her? It has the Republican
smell all over it and the in-the-pocket-media plays along with this latest
cover-up. I believe that if she were tracked down the funding source for her
hide-away would also be revealed. But it's John Edwards who needs to be followed
and exposed. The smell is overwhelming! Ron
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And, just like that fat GOP SOB, he was caught getting oral sex from a 3rd party DURING the Clinton impeachment hearings!
America is so fucked up.
Yes, he's sleazy. Yes, he shouldn't have a political career after this. But come on. This is a personal issue. Leave it alone. This affair shouldn't cause Edwards' political ideologies to die with it. We need others to take up his goals and ideas because, as uncouth as his behavior was, his political ideals are still worth fighting for.
http://liberalretort.blogspot.com/
Do you believe any of us would have donated to his campaign had we known the truth?
Americans need to decide. IS adultery that bad? If so, then why do the majority of Americans cheat on their spouses? And if Americans are honest, and say adultery isn't that bad, why should politicians be any different? Of course, they aren't serious about adultery -- if they were, Newt, Henry Hyde, and scores of other GOPers wouldn't be around any more. But they are. (What about the GOPig who went to a prostitute and wore diapers, and was then applauded when he returned to the House?) It is a joke. A game. And of course the very serious Religious Right turns their head.
For the record, this isn't a "you are saying this because YOU are an adulterer" scenario. I have never cheated on a spouse, or even a boyfriend.
But that's America -- outlaw prostitution -- what's the crime? Outlaw marijuana -- what's the crime? Prostitution is no harm, no foul. Marijuana is only illegal because it is easy to grow in your back yard -- the govt. can't get taxes from its sale.
Everything in America is about $$$$$ -- not "morals."
This is not about adultry. As you will notice, my comment states that his behavior risked giving this election to John McCain. This is the issue.
As for who John Edwards fucks, I could not care less. I DO care that he stood in front of national cameras and lied to the public and to his supporters about fucking one of his campaign workers.
At some point the US should have the discussion about open and more truthful marriages, but in 2008, in this critical election, with mighty forces trying to keep the government in their control, with the very survival of our country in the balance, this isn't the time.
Thus, I would not have donated to Edwards had I known the truth.
" ... or there was the danger he might have gotten caught?"
As I stated, I see there are two different ideas/ideals.
Why would John Edwards do this in 2008 ... 2007, whatever? Who knows? For years, I have marveled at politicians who do things -- always sex, because, lately, America finds nothing else worthy of losing a candidacy EXCEPT sex -- they know will get them booted. Is it because most politicians love danger? Is it because they feel "entitled?" I would guess it is because of what Edwards himself said -- in other words, he got too cocky. (Sorry about the pun.)
Just know this: give your money to NO ONE if you get squeamish about this sort of thing. It could happen to ANY of the candidates -- yes, even Obama. And, of course, it already HAS happened to McCain, but nothing will be done about it.
Republicans are hypocrites.
Some of the $ given to the Edwards campaign went to pay the salary of his mistress and, most likely, continues to pay for her silence. He returns all donations under, say, $500 and we'll call it finished. It will then be personal between himself and his family.
Until then, it isn't.
Edit:
On 2nd thought, why should his donation payback be capped? His larger donations should also all be returned.
Return all donations and then it becomes personal.