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AMERICAblog: John Kerry says he's willing to cave on public option too

  • trinu · 3 months ago
    No public option = no bill. Honestly no bill is better than no public option. Otherwise we would be forced to give our money to health insurance companies even when the coverage is so bad the premiums would be better spend (directly) on medical bills.
  • rayso · 3 months ago
    This is Nancy Pelosi's position too. Thank god she hasn't caved.
  • mwfolsom · 3 months ago
    Sorry but just give her some time - she will cave its just a matter when.
  • psychodrew · 3 months ago
    If anybody knows how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, it's John Kerry.
  • sittenpretty · 3 months ago
    are you talking about....MULTI BILLIONAIRE JOHN HEINZ 57 KERRY,who rides 10 thousand dollar bicycles,and wears FERAGAMO loafers to walk the dog? that John Kerry?
  • rayso · 3 months ago
    He is in good enough shape to wind surf. Give him credit for that.
  • magster · 3 months ago
    This kind of stuff is why Kerry lost in 2004. At least he's honest, though, instead of peddling false hope to the progressives.
  • ezpz · 3 months ago
    Actually, I don't think he's being honest in that I doubt Ted Kennedy would have ceded the public option in the name of compromise.
    He would have fought for it, imo.
  • shell · 3 months ago
    "It's difficult to believe that Ted Kennedy would have had anything to do with such a weak-kneed approach to governance. "

    Those slime just waited for Ted to die so they could be REALLY wussy. This is what passes for "love and devotion" in DC. It makes me absolutely sick.

    I saw them all (esp. Kerry and Dodd) weeping and wailing over Ted's death. You cowardly liars! You are chickenshits, fakes, and were too afraid to do this until after Ted died.

    You aren't man enough to lick his boots.
  • Chris From Maine · 3 months ago
    more proof that Howard Dean should have been the nominee in 2004.

    And Kerry, also from Mass, says this a couple days after Kennedy is buried. What a slap in the face.
  • mirth · 3 months ago
    But Howard Dean is Dr No. Joe Lieberman told us so.
  • Biggus Diggus · 3 months ago
    Progressives have to run against Democorporacrats in the primaries. That's the only way that will scare Democrats into fighting for what their constituents want. We need to Lamont all these Liebermans.
  • rayso · 3 months ago
    Yes agree. There is no other way to accomplish the progressive agenda.
  • KerrynowCampau · 3 months ago
    Kerry can kiss my a**. I realized what a rigged game this all was when that loser was selected over Howard Dean for the nomination.
  • JohnnyG · 3 months ago
    I had been wondering if Kerry regretted endorsing Obama since he's turned out to be such a centrist traitor, but apparently Kerry's totally on board with that.
  • sukabi2 · 3 months ago
    so when's the march on Washington??? shouldn't there be a group organizing a public option / single payer march???
  • nancy50 · 3 months ago
    September 13th, I think. I heard Robert Reich was suggesting it for those who want the public option.
  • rayso · 3 months ago
    Come to the Adams Morgan day festival in DC on Sept 13th if you can!
  • JohnnyG · 3 months ago
    Good idea, let the gay march be a generalized liberal march. They should do lots of railing against conservative Dems about every issue, not just gay rights. And encourage straight liberals to march with us. There definitely needs to be a liberal uprising. The public option is the line in the sand, if we don't get it there's going to be a liberal uprising.

    I think the march is in early October, I believe timed to coincide with Coming Out Day.
  • rayso · 3 months ago
    re: should do lots of railing against conservative Dems about every issue

    This will energize the base but won't likely convince others to change their view. Need to promote the virtues of our agenda as well.
  • Gridlock · 3 months ago
    .. start one.
  • sittenpretty · 3 months ago
    letter writing campaign to JK...your not fit to shine TEDDIES gravestone...you putz...YOU KNOW TEDS WISHES
  • boloboffin · 3 months ago
    I disagree. I think this is a firm statement from John Kerry to tell people enamored of the public option to forget it, it ain't happening.
  • HereinDC · 3 months ago
    Kerry was week kneed back in 2004....you'd expect anything different in 2009?
  • nancy50 · 3 months ago
    Note to self...never take John Kerry with you, when trying to negotiate a new car deal.
  • Deacon_Blues · 3 months ago
    Hear that noise, Senator Kerry? That's Ted Kennedy rolling in his grave.
  • scytherius · 3 months ago
    Which is why I am done with America. No more voting. No more money for Dems. With all the power we had after this last election we could have changed this Nation. We've done pretty much nothing.

    I could care less about this Nation or who is in charge anymore. It just doesn't matter. I'm just going to pull in and keep to myself. I actually hope the GOP regains control so they can finally ruin this Nation. It is EXACTLY what America deserves. Buy guys and good luck. You are going to need it.
  • Deacon_Blues · 3 months ago
    I'm afraid I'm with you on this; right now I can't see myself participating in the next election, and I've been a voting Democrat for 35 years.
  • dula · 3 months ago
    I agree. I learned in Kindergarten that you gotta just pull that baby tooth when it's dangling by a thread, instead of waiting for it to fall out on its own, if you want a bigger, stronger one to take its place.
  • rayso · 3 months ago
    Can you clue the rest of us in or where we can move to?
  • yah · 3 months ago
    Leadership please.

    On political capital: some of use just have an idealistic view of how to use it. Rahm thinks it should be used to leverage corporate control of government. Silly voters!
  • SCLiberal · 3 months ago
    As far as I'm concerned the public option itself is a compromise. We need and deserve a single payer system. Kucinich is the only one who is even talking about it.
    The Democrats have compromised on the compromise.
  • Judas Peckerwood · 3 months ago
    Russ Feingold vocally backs single payer, too. Unfortunately, few Democrats other than he and Kucinich have the guts and integrity to actually fight for the Democratic Party's alleged values.
  • SCLiberal · 3 months ago
    I forgot about Feingold. I love that guy.
  • rayso · 3 months ago
    Obama, Franks and Emanuel want single payer but understand that public option is a more palatable way of getting there.
  • NotTimothyGeithner · 3 months ago
    Umm, really? The President tells us how public option is only a "sliver," so I doubt their secret commitment to single-payer.
  • rayso · 3 months ago
    I guess that wasn't the whole story. They all want democrats to be reelected more.
  • mwfolsom · 3 months ago
    Obama wants whatever passes the easiest - when you believe in nothing anything will do.
  • tigergrrldc · 3 months ago
    There is supposed to be a march in DC on 9/12, I think. I saw it mentioned twice in the threads on two different blogs, but I haven't seen anything since.
  • rayso · 3 months ago
    The 9/12 march is organized by Dick Army's group. It will not be promoting the ideas shared on this blog.
  • ImpureScience · 3 months ago
    where the f*** are FDR and Truman when you need them...
  • rayso · 3 months ago
    Yes - the New Deal ended with them.
  • caphillprof · 3 months ago
    Lyndon could have passed the public option with his eyes closed and one hand behind his back.
  • ImpureScience · 3 months ago
    so true :-(
  • RitornaVincitor · 3 months ago
    Is this the same John Kerry who was unable to bury that intellectual midget George W. Bush in the 2004 presidential debates?
  • Indigo · 3 months ago
    I don't know why but Kerry took a dive in 2004.
  • RitornaVincitor · 3 months ago
    He sure did. His not so swift response to the Swift Boat Veterans for "Truth" had a lot to do with it. The same GOP dummies who believed Iraq attacked us on 9/11 were quick to believe that Kerry's status as a war hero was a fraud.
  • rayso · 3 months ago
    re: So they fight for nothing, then when something (anything) passes - regardless of whether it's good, bad, or even vaguely related to the promises the President made during the campaign - they'll claim victory and look towards the next election.

    Exactly. What happens this year is likely to be it for another generation or until someone builds the political capital needed to do more.
  • mirth · 3 months ago
    You mean Kerry of Kerry/Lieberman?
  • ezpz · 3 months ago
    Wasn't that Gore/Leiberman?
  • mirth · 3 months ago
    Aw hell. You're right. I get these "Democrats" mixed up. Thanks, ezpz.
  • ezpz · 3 months ago
    YW.

    The only real Democrat who has stayed true to his principles is Howard Dean from "the Democratic wing of the Democratic party'.

    Ahhh, how I wish he had won.
  • mirth · 3 months ago
    Me, too. I've never stopped being a Deaniac. Of those on the scene now, he is the only one who could bring me back into the Democratic fold. Otherwise, I'm pretty much done with them.
  • ezpz · 3 months ago
    Yup, he's the real deal.
    Maybe that's the 'problem'
    He's as honest as they come and there's no place for honesty in politics - not anymore, that is - maybe once upon a time there was, or maybe I was just young and dreamy eyed enough to believe them.

    But in today's world, sad to say, an honest politician is just an oxymoron.
    No such animal.

    Take away the 'oxy' and that's what we have now - morons for politicians and more morons for so called 'leaders'.
  • smittyj · 3 months ago
    Kerry cave? Why he has never done that before!
  • RyansTake · 3 months ago
    Just called Senator Kerry's office, describing myself as a constituent and blogger. I was shipped between three different people, but I got some answers.

    Christopher Benner, an aide, said he has absolutely no comment on Max Baucus's "strategy" to get health care, but ignoring our large majority and focusing on three Republicans and three democrats. Then I asked about the public option, to which Christopher said Senator Kerry "absolutely" supports the public option.

    I followed that up, alluding to this Reuters article, asking whether Senator Kerry would support getting rid of the public option if he thought that was the only way it could pass. Christopher dodged the question and re-quoted his prepared statement that Senator Kerry supports the public option.

    I ended my questions with if Senator Kerry would support Kennedy and Dodd's HELP bill, to which Kerry's aide said he does. That was the bright spot of the interview. I said I was finished with my questions, at which point Benner wanted to forward me to another aide, Megan Thompson, who I think is Kerry's head health care aide (though not sure on that). I got Thompson's voicemail, but didn't really have any further questions, so I didn't leave a message. Not quite sure how I feel about any of this, but I do wish Kerry was willing to go out on a further limb to support the public option. As a constituent, I don't think he's doing enough.
  • mikep · 3 months ago
    "It's difficult to believe that Ted Kennedy would have had anything to do with such a weak-kneed approach to governance. "

    Are you being serious? Ted Kennedy spent his entire political career supporting week-kneed approaches to governance, and capitulating to corporate interests. He might have made a few of platitudinous speeches for public consumption, but behind the scenes he would have led the way in giving in. He always did. Never once stood up and really, really fought for anything. The propaganda of the Kennedy/Democratic machine is just incredible. The man spent his entire life aiding, abetting and promoting corporate interests, and making sure that his family was the first to profit from it. His death is the best thing to happen to progressive interests in a very, very long time.