AMERICAblog: John McCain again forgets that a few weeks ago, he left the country too
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
B-b-but! It's OK when a seasoned Republican leader with foreign policy experience (who supports the troops and the Surge) goes abroad; but it's just presumptuous opportunism when an inexperienced candidate, a Democrat (who won't praise the Surge and who never was a war hee-ro) goes abroad!
ron071
· 1 year ago
What exactly is a surge? What exactly is the definition of the word hero? Each definition should be rather simple but has become the object of obfuscation by the McSame people who wish to frighten and confuse voters. I certainly hope that American voters won't be fooled yet again.
ron071
· 1 year ago
Show me a Congressional Medal of Honor and we'll know who is a hero. Did McBush ever get this award? Getting shot down in a war is tragic and being imprisoned by the NVA is a terrible result of war. It does not a hero make. Why diminish the terrm by misusing it for a political end? That's very sad.
Psaltseller
· 1 year ago
If having been in a POW camp qualifies one as a hero whose every word should be believed, honored, and protected against criticism, then what about the other thousands of people in the United States who have, at one time or another, been a Prisoner of War? Three weeks ago, in the ER of a VA Medical Center, I met a gentleman who was in a POW camp in Germany during WWII. He had been waiting to see a doctor for five hours.
From the level of his outrage at McCain's latest "you can't criticize me, I'm a Hero!!", I feel fairly confident he won't be voting Republican. Particularly since that VA Medical Center was working at close to half staff due to funding cuts. He didn't want taxpayer-funded trips around the world, or a trophy wife, just to get in to see a doctor that day.
And where does it all leave the people who served time in the camps in the United States for the crimes of being Japanese, Italian or German? For that matter, what about the prisoners at Gitmo who haven't spoken with their families for years, and haven't even been charged (they were turned in for the rewards)? Are they all heroes?
Insisting that everyone in uniform is a hero is like that idiot Congressperson who wanted the Purple Heart awarded to everyone who was injured on 9/11. The responders who ran into the building not knowing if they were going to come out again were, indeed, heroes. That's as far as it goes, and the emergency services have a full roster of their own awards, which carry more meaning for them and their families.
I served in uniform for 26 years, participated in Vietnam, Anchor Guard, Desert Shield/Storm, and a few other opportunities to excel. I am not now, nor have I ever been, a hero. I have known a few. I'm not one of them. Frankly, I doubt John McCain is one of them, either.
liberaldemdave
· 1 year ago
Hats off and kudos to you Psaltseller! Your words here and your humility make you a hero in my book.
Thank you for serving our country.
ron071
· 1 year ago
Psaltseller: It is indeed a shame when the term hero is so missused for political advantage. The Medal of Honor should be the only criteria for the characterization of a veteran as a hero. To do less seriously dillutes the honor and the meaning of true heroes.
It's a desperate attempt to change the lexicon for an UNJUSTIFIED INVASION. If we would stick to the original outrage of it being a senseless war, we wouldn't have to constantly be hit with GOP talking points about how it's "now working". It was WRONG to begin this war, and it's wrong to keep defending it.
ron071
· 1 year ago
The " surge" has become the last refuge of the scoundrel. " Mission Accomplished " was Bush/Cheney's false claim of success. Both will soon be proven to be what they represent and that is a continued obfuscation of the truth of this invasion/occupation/loss of respect/bankrupting of our nation/loss of over 4,100 Americn lives, 30,000 American casualties, unknown number of Iraqi deaths, injuries, and ethnic cleansings, and over 4,300 other coalition troops. This indeed has been a " Mission Accomplished by a " Surge". If McBush gets three (3) votes in November it will be a few too many. Americans get informed before another 4-8 years of disaster for this nation.
I say at age 73 (after having studied many prior campaigns of both parties) I have never seen such a political debacle as the McCain campaign and candidacy. How on earth can the Republicans follow the Bush/Cheney disaster with something far worse? I also find it very difficult to understand the thinking and motivation of any person of either party who would consider voting for more of the same. Our country has been put into distress on many fronts. We will suffer the effects of the Republican disaster for a very long time. It's time to stop making the hole even deeper!
brian
· 1 year ago
We may think it is a debacle, but there are so many ignorant people in this country that this election will be closer than the 2004 Bush/Kerry election. Hopefully Obama will have an edge after he debates McCain.
Has McCain unveiled any policy? He has been attacking Obama on everything, but not offering solutions, unless considering drilling for oil of the coast as a solution.
FDR received 57% the of vote when he was running against Hoover. That was when they had food lines and massive unemployment. Lots of people wanted Hoover to continue his failed policies. Ignorance!
ron071
· 1 year ago
The decendants of the Hoover voters must now be in the McBush camp. Only the very greedy , really ignorant or hopelessly racist could even consider a vote for McSame. What percentage of the electorate does this group contain? I hope you are incorrect regarding a close election as this would be a very sad commentary.
Wonder if McSame will forget his new friends in the oil industry that, last month, donated $1.1 million to his campaign after he started to call for offshore drilling?
We now know what McSame's price is.
After his marrying a $100 million dollar Sugar Momma I'm surprised his price isn't a little bit more substantial.
dad
· 1 year ago
Labels: confused, flip-flop, mccain
and, "same" and "old"
ron071
· 1 year ago
Simple is as simple says. After six years of invasion, occupation, and civil war the addition ( surge ) of even more than the 150,000 American troops won a war that is not a war. Rather, US paying 100,000 Sunnis in Anbar $300.00 per month to protect their own cities was respopnsible for bringing some temporary peace to that area. The standing down of the Mahdi Army in Baghdad and the ethnic cleansing of that city have resulted is a temporary truce there. Is this really a victory or a lull? The political problems which fuel the civil war have not be resolved but are in a temporary lull. This is the factual basis regarding the myth of a SURGE. When we leave will the Shites continue to pay the Sunnis in Anbar? Will the Mahdi Army continue its truce when they don't get power in the next election? Will the Shites ever fairly divide the oil revenues? We have solved none of the underlying problems of Iraq but have gotten rid of the dictator who will soon be replaced by another with Iranian support after the Shia destroy the Sunni in another bout of civil war. This is the result of the Bush invasion and occupation for oil and the McSame support of same. Sad but unfortunately true. A tragic war for oil which has cost over 4,100 American lives, over 35,000 American injuries, countless billions off American taxpayer funds, unknown thousands of Iraqi deaths and displacements. A record to be ashamed of. A tragedy of epic proportions. "Mission Accomplished" with a " Surge". A TRAGEDY!
gallery
· 1 year ago
It's not sad to see what he's become, it's enlightening. Just don't expect the knuckle draggers to notice.
jiminportlandoregon
· 1 year ago
McCain hasn't forgotten that he went abroad a few months ago, but he is hoping desperately that we have.
WDemDem
· 1 year ago
I am SO tired of his whining! At least he's like his perception of the rest of us - whining, sniveling pussies.
kevinbgoode
· 1 year ago
I thought McSame was sent to Columbia to free the military contractor prisoners. . .the MSM did try to push that line...
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
he even held a gd fundraiser in London...hosted by a British Lord, no less...
On October 27, 1967, four days after being shot down, McCain called for a North Vietnamese guard. He told the officer, “O.K., I’ll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital.” -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain
Like all republicans if you keep telling a lie long enough it becomes the truth. I am not saying he wasn't shot down but.....
He was awarded the following:For 5 ½ years as a POW (three of which he says were spent in solitary confinement), the U.S. Navy awarded McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.
But, Navy regulations say two eyewitnesses are required for any award of heroism and McCain has none for the valor awards he received.
Yeah. he is a hero. Heroes tend to be men who are larger than life. Audie Murphy for instance was such a hero and never once had to keep trumpeting his accomplishments.
In 27 months of combat action in World War II, Murphy became the most decorated United States combat soldier in United States military history.[2][3] He received the Medal of Honor, the U.S. military's highest award for valor, along with 32 additional U.S. medals,[2][3] five from France, and one from Belgium.[1][2][4]
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
I smell Karl Rove's blubber.
Keith_in_Southwest_France
· 1 year ago
What will the mainstream librul media say about this...
McSame is an F'ing idiot. and the press is acting as his fluffer. But I can wait for the viagra commercials.
Aanya
· 1 year ago
McCain honestly did forget! He's too damn old to be President. People at 71 forget things. That's normal. That's only a problem if a country is stupid enough to elect someone that old as their leader! The scene in the cheese aisle at the grocery store reminded me of the young mother with small children taking Gramps along to the market. Did you see him shuffle behind the young family? He's most likely never been in a grocery store in his life. I'm positive he hasn't been in one for 30 years. I hope America also remembers that Cindy McCain wouldn't have any idea how to maneuver a market either! That's a total family that are such elitists, they in no way resemble the everyday citizen! They have no inkling as to what it's like paying for gasoline today. They could never relate to the possibility that the next idiot we get for president could privitize health insurance, and they would surely lose any coverage they had! Of course if it is McCain, we can all hope and pray that he "forgets" all the stupid items in his platform that he's threatened us with!
lynchie
· 1 year ago
sorry to burst your bubble but we have privatized health care.
KansasModerate
· 1 year ago
I'm wondering if Aanya meant privatizing Social Security and Medicare.
Psaltseller
· 1 year ago
Senator McCain, on the other hand, was born into a military family and was covered under his father's medical benefit until he was admitted to Annapolis, had military health care in his own right, and as a retiree, until he was eligible for the Congressional program. So the man who wants save us from the evils of government-provided health care is himself a lifelong beneficiary.
Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood)
· 1 year ago
The repub base is eating this stuff up. They love it, it is working, and it is hurting Obama.
aarrgghh
· 1 year ago
it's kind of sad to see what mccain has become.
has he ever really been any different? how would anyone really know? that's the fundamental problem with liars.
all we know now for sure is that he's ready to say anything to get elected. maybe the only difference between what mclame was then and what mclame has become now is that this year his message is inherently contradictory. he has to toss the chimperor under the bus while seducing his minions. he has to sell a thoroughly discredited ideology. he's basically selling seats on the hindenburg. the flip-flop-flipovers are most definitely a feature of mclame '08 and not a bug.
angryafrican
· 1 year ago
Maybe McCain should realize that you don't need to go to Iraq to know that the war was a wtupid idea to start off with. And the fact that he was in the military doesn't give him a free pass to play politics with the troops. http://angryafrican.net/2008/07/27/views-on-the...
IAmATVJunkie
· 1 year ago
And everyone listening said, "I don't feel left out at all" as they continued to pity the old man who's so old that his propaganda cable channel is running b-roll from 2000 while they talk about him.
And then they sent another $50 to Obama.
And the world was good.
KansasModerate
· 1 year ago
I've been involved one way or another in presidential campaigns since 1952, when as a grade school student I distributed Eisenhower brochures door-to-door. Sixteen years later I was a delegate to the Republican National Convention.
In all the campaigns since that first one I don't ever recall one of the major candidates having so much obvious contempt for his opponent as John McCain has for Barack Obama. It's one thing to have strong differences on policies but McCain clearly has a personal grudge against Obama and comes across as believing Obama doesn't even have a right to seek the presidency.
McCain comes across as a petty, cranky old man. He's beginning to show his age and I don't think it would take much to provoke him into a public demonstration of his infamous temper.
The first time I was old enough to vote for a president was 1964 (the voting age was 21 in those days) and I have voted Republican every time. But this year I am voting Democratic. I would have preferred Hillary Clinton but I have reached the point where I am excited about supporting Barack Obama.
It concerns me that, despite all his personal weaknesses and his disjointed campaign, McCain continues to run close to Obama in the polls. I thought with all the baggage the Bush years dump on McCain that Obama would be enjoying a double digit lead in the polls. A lot of voters don't know much about Obama and appear to fear placing their trust in the unknown. Senator Obama and those of us who support him have a lot to do in 99 days to close the deal with the American people.
Psaltseller
· 1 year ago
Senator McCain's negative attitude about Senator Obama goes back at least as far as the early days of Mr. Obama's career in the Senate. With two competing bills on lobbying reform being worked, Senator Obama attended the bipartisan meeting on Senator McCain's version, then attended the Democratic meeting on their version, and eventually decided there were fewer loopholes in the Democratic version.
The McCain office released the Senator's less-than-professional letter to the Junior Senator [in part] "I concluded your professed concern for the institution and the public interest was genuine and admirable. Thank you for disabusing me of such notions." Then, as now, McCain threw "disingenuous" with a liberal hand, and accused Senator Obama of partisan political posturing for entirely personal reasons.
I'd like to see one of his famous meltdowns myself, but the press is doing such a good job of covering for him and then accepting every excuse his spokesweasels give, that I doubt it wouldn't get much press.
chamay0
· 1 year ago
Can we spell JEALOUSY, people. McShame has no shame. While Obama was showing off his credentials McCain was crying and putting out vicious ads. Now he wants the American people to say we too were left out? Why? My TV was working and I had a good view of Obama being the president this country needs. He should have called the repair man and had that TV fixed; then, he would have felt the same as the rest of us: proud, lucky and oh so blessed having Obama represent us as a nation.
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From the level of his outrage at McCain's latest "you can't criticize me, I'm a Hero!!", I feel fairly confident he won't be voting Republican. Particularly since that VA Medical Center was working at close to half staff due to funding cuts. He didn't want taxpayer-funded trips around the world, or a trophy wife, just to get in to see a doctor that day.
And where does it all leave the people who served time in the camps in the United States for the crimes of being Japanese, Italian or German? For that matter, what about the prisoners at Gitmo who haven't spoken with their families for years, and haven't even been charged (they were turned in for the rewards)? Are they all heroes?
Insisting that everyone in uniform is a hero is like that idiot Congressperson who wanted the Purple Heart awarded to everyone who was injured on 9/11. The responders who ran into the building not knowing if they were going to come out again were, indeed, heroes. That's as far as it goes, and the emergency services have a full roster of their own awards, which carry more meaning for them and their families.
I served in uniform for 26 years, participated in Vietnam, Anchor Guard, Desert Shield/Storm, and a few other opportunities to excel. I am not now, nor have I ever been, a hero. I have known a few. I'm not one of them. Frankly, I doubt John McCain is one of them, either.
Thank you for serving our country.
political advantage. The Medal of Honor should be the only criteria for the
characterization of a veteran as a hero. To do less seriously dillutes the
honor and the meaning of true heroes.
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It's a desperate attempt to change the lexicon for an UNJUSTIFIED INVASION.
If we would stick to the original outrage of it being a senseless war, we wouldn't have to constantly be hit with GOP talking points about how it's "now working".
It was WRONG to begin this war, and it's wrong to keep defending it.
Accomplished " was Bush/Cheney's false claim of success. Both will soon be proven
to be what they represent and that is a continued obfuscation of the truth of
this invasion/occupation/loss of respect/bankrupting of our nation/loss of
over 4,100 Americn lives, 30,000 American casualties, unknown number of Iraqi
deaths, injuries, and ethnic cleansings, and over 4,300 other coalition
troops. This indeed has been a " Mission Accomplished by a " Surge". If McBush
gets three (3) votes in November it will be a few too many. Americans get
informed before another 4-8 years of disaster for this nation.
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i guess sen. mccain's not a person of the world
Has McCain unveiled any policy? He has been attacking Obama on everything, but not offering solutions, unless considering drilling for oil of the coast as a solution.
FDR received 57% the of vote when he was running against Hoover. That was when they had food lines and massive unemployment. Lots of people wanted Hoover to continue his failed policies. Ignorance!
the very greedy , really ignorant or hopelessly racist could even consider a
vote for McSame. What percentage of the electorate does this group contain? I
hope you are incorrect regarding a close election as this would be a very
sad commentary.
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We now know what McSame's price is.
After his marrying a $100 million dollar Sugar Momma I'm surprised his price isn't a little bit more substantial.
and, "same" and "old"
Just don't expect the knuckle draggers to notice.
http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/british-lord...
You might want to slip some Aricept into your husband's creamed corn
http://usavote.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/navy-aw...
On October 27, 1967, four days after being shot down, McCain called for a North Vietnamese guard. He told the officer, “O.K., I’ll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital.” -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain
Like all republicans if you keep telling a lie long enough it becomes the truth. I am not saying he wasn't shot down but.....
He was awarded the following:For 5 ½ years as a POW (three of which he says were spent in solitary confinement), the U.S. Navy awarded McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.
But, Navy regulations say two eyewitnesses are required for any award of heroism and McCain has none for the valor awards he received.
Yeah. he is a hero. Heroes tend to be men who are larger than life. Audie Murphy for instance was such a hero and never once had to keep trumpeting his accomplishments.
In 27 months of combat action in World War II, Murphy became the most decorated United States combat soldier in United States military history.[2][3] He received the Medal of Honor, the U.S. military's highest award for valor, along with 32 additional U.S. medals,[2][3] five from France, and one from Belgium.[1][2][4]
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/a...
has he ever really been any different? how would anyone really know? that's the fundamental problem with liars.
all we know now for sure is that he's ready to say anything to get elected. maybe the only difference between what mclame was then and what mclame has become now is that this year his message is inherently contradictory. he has to toss the chimperor under the bus while seducing his minions. he has to sell a thoroughly discredited ideology. he's basically selling seats on the hindenburg. the flip-flop-flipovers are most definitely a feature of mclame '08 and not a bug.
http://angryafrican.net/2008/07/27/views-on-the...
And then they sent another $50 to Obama.
And the world was good.
In all the campaigns since that first one I don't ever recall one of the major candidates having so much obvious contempt for his opponent as John McCain has for Barack Obama. It's one thing to have strong differences on policies but McCain clearly has a personal grudge against Obama and comes across as believing Obama doesn't even have a right to seek the presidency.
McCain comes across as a petty, cranky old man. He's beginning to show his age and I don't think it would take much to provoke him into a public demonstration of his infamous temper.
The first time I was old enough to vote for a president was 1964 (the voting age was 21 in those days) and I have voted Republican every time. But this year I am voting Democratic. I would have preferred Hillary Clinton but I have reached the point where I am excited about supporting Barack Obama.
It concerns me that, despite all his personal weaknesses and his disjointed campaign, McCain continues to run close to Obama in the polls. I thought with all the baggage the Bush years dump on McCain that Obama would be enjoying a double digit lead in the polls. A lot of voters don't know much about Obama and appear to fear placing their trust in the unknown. Senator Obama and those of us who support him have a lot to do in 99 days to close the deal with the American people.
The McCain office released the Senator's less-than-professional letter to the Junior Senator [in part] "I concluded your professed concern for the institution and the public interest was genuine and admirable. Thank you for disabusing me of such notions." Then, as now, McCain threw "disingenuous" with a liberal hand, and accused Senator Obama of partisan political posturing for entirely personal reasons.
I'd like to see one of his famous meltdowns myself, but the press is doing such a good job of covering for him and then accepting every excuse his spokesweasels give, that I doubt it wouldn't get much press.