The Mac Pain campaign is really of a low caliber, and their attack ads really seem unprofessional. Well, I guess that says a lot about the candidate and his party.
I just like the way he called the daughter of 2 of his donors a celebutard (not that she isn't, but who knew McCain would be the one to say it).
The saddest part is Britney & Paris haven't even been in the news so much lately, and Paris seems to have made at least a slight change for the better since her jail stint.
I just think is shows how truly on top of the news he and his people really aren't. What else is he clueless about? oh...that much <crying>
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
And, according to Aravosis, McCain--like Kathy--is surrounded by gays.
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· 1 year ago
Kathy Griffin should do a running gag looking for McRove trying to give him more pointers on how to make the D List.
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
Both McCain and Kathy have tipsy, feisty mothers they use to make them seem younger.
AdrianBrowne
· 1 year ago
Kathy Griffin is self aware. I don't get the impression that McCain is.
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· 1 year ago
He's always felt inadequate. He's never gotten anywhere with prestigious positions in life trying to feel adequate without the help of others he uses cynically but he'll never get there unless he does it on his own even if he becomes president. Nothing he has ever done on his own merits. Once again, we'll have another president with personal issues like Shrub. They're both similar like that, too.
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· 1 year ago
Obama is where he is by his own merits.
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· 1 year ago
And that by overcoming so much that McShrub hasn't a clue about. But McShrub is jealous. I get that, but also incensed he would be challenged by a black man. Imagine that. Being the first old status quo white guy to be beaten by a young black man for president.
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· 1 year ago
I don't like this avenue I went down. It's ugly and upsetting...
ron071
· 1 year ago
glasses_guy : Your analysis is right on target. Hillary also suffered from the same mentality. He's new, less experienced so what gives him the right to go to the front of the line? That's exactly why Hillary and McBush tried to gang up on Obama. You do remember this from the primaries. The race will come down to years in government-for better or worse vs demonstrated good judgement on issues and intelligence to solve problems.
ron071
· 1 year ago
glasses_guy : PLEASE stop being defeatest. Try to help the campaign in any way u can but don't jump ship when there is no reason to. Most of the polls are showing Obama in the lead by 5-7% and the best is yet to come. Remember fine wine as it ages. A little more time will present a more complete picture. So, don't give up when you are winning.
liberaldemdave
· 1 year ago
OT, but have you Americabloggers seen McNasty's newest ad designed to stir up "brown" people? There's an article at HuffPo:
Memo to McNasty: In a deck of cards, there are hearts, diamonds, spades and clubs. There are more than just "black and white cards" in the race deck, sir. There are also brown, yellow and red. You, sir, have played the race card...AGAIN.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Wonder what the Wingnuts would think of McCain producing an ad in Spanish?
Wonder how we can let them know that McCain is producing ads in Spanish?
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
You ever notice how they rarely have live shots of McCain in his own commercials?
It's usually just that profile still shot trying to make him look heroic or something.
If they do have a video of him at all, it's a video of him sort of moving into that profile shot or a quick tag line saying he approved the message.
They're really trying to hide his feebleness.
loona_c
· 1 year ago
Someone should put a tv show together, "The Presidential Campaign D-List" and run all the clips and ads from McCain. It would be pretty darn funny.
RonTunning
· 1 year ago
Sorry, but McCain is much further down the list, certainly no more than F-List.
ron071
· 1 year ago
loona_c : It would be more than funny. It would be one of the most effective campaign ads ever shown. Use the candidate to defeat himself.
WANT MORE PAIN ?????? VOTE Mc CAIN !!!!!!!
loona_c
· 1 year ago
LOL! I know! Someone REALLY needs to do the show. "My campaign on the D-List" or Ron T--the F List.
ron071
· 1 year ago
Lona: Please explain your comment to me. I'm sorry to say I really don't undrstand what you've written. Thanks, Ron
Referring to RonTunning (above) and his comment about the "F-list". I reallize upon re-reading, that end of my comment looks wierd!
dommyluc
· 1 year ago
How dare you compare Our Noble Hero John McCain to a D-List comedienne! Everyone knows that THE HONORABLE AND UNTOUCHABLE JOHN MCCAIN isn't fit to kiss Kathy Griffin's ass. As a matter of fact, I'd vote for Kathy Griffin over McCain any day. At least she is highly competent at making people laugh, while the only thing John McCain seems to be competent at is cashing in on his POW status. YEAH, I SAID IT YOU FUCKING MEDIA ASSKISSERS! I wish the media could just answer ONE question for me: If John McCain had not been held in Vietnam as a POW, how much money per hour would he be pulling down running a convenience store in Phoenix? And one more question that the media will NEVER answer no matter how many times I write and ask: In what way does being a POW qualify McCain to be president? Just answer the fucking question! Just once!
ron071
· 1 year ago
dommyluc : There is NO answer to your question since they don''t wish to give one. We all know the meaning of the term hero and POW status does not qualify. Look, instead , for MEDAL OF HONOR recipients.
smiling_dog
· 1 year ago
No one ever lost a presidential election by underestimating the American people.
ron071
· 1 year ago
smilling_dog : It's not a question of underestimation but rather a reality view of the American voter. We are not looking at pure stupidity but rather folks who do cling to some vile beliefs. Let's face the reality. It is now , in my view, a question of pain vs prejudice.
WANT MORE PAIN ?????? VOTE McCAIN !!!!!!!!!!
smiling_dog
· 1 year ago
I didn't say that they were purely stupid, I would say happily ignorant and nasty would be a better description.
ron071
· 1 year ago
In my view, any person who does not know what is in his/her best interest is stupid even if despicable reasons motivate them. It used to be called biting your nose to spite your face which is, in the final analysis, stupid. WANT MORE PAIN ????VOTE Mc Cain!!!!!!
Woh, Woh, Wee, Wow! He is comedian! Is Good. Yes, I like. In my country, we have same funny people; only is called 'Most Glorious Dicktator'.
I am now most happy dat Mr. Dick Chanee and now Mr. John McCaNN, have like to visit and emulate most Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan. I hope dey can help me to find celebrity called PamEhlla Anderson...
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· 1 year ago
PBS is having their annual fundraiser so no cooking shows. Just prior concerts airing even early Saturday morning.
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· 1 year ago
It would seem like cooking and travel shows would poll better for fundraising than the Steve Miller Band at 10am on Saturday morning. Man, PBS has really gone to shit.
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· 1 year ago
If they had asked me, I would have kept the exact regular programming that people love but aired their best shows.
JMOHR
· 1 year ago
Tweety noted that the Democrats just do not know how to do ridicule. The Republicans ridiculed Gore (and got enough votes to put the election in stealing range) and Kerry. The Democrat party just rolls over and takes it. We all pat each other on the back while we speak nicely and say how much these tactics will backfire. Of course, we do not understand why we end up losing and why so many people think that we are gutless wimps.
No, we can ridicule McCain and make some damned important points. There should be a commercial on his confusion. Lieberman correcting him, his lost in la la land look on the viagra question and one of his staffers stating that McCain is not speaking for his own campaign. His age and rather obvious lack of intellect (896th in his class at the academy) should be important issues. We can make the point and fire back at him.
Otherwise, we will be sitting around trying to figure out why we could not win given the sorry state of the country. Wake up idiots or we will once again lose a sure thing. Democrats, grow some balls.
Somebody needs to send Tweety a link to this dKos diary about the utterly fucked up WSJ editorial about Obama being "too skinny" to be president. The diary is snarkalicious and the comments ooze ridicule (with sprinkles).
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· 1 year ago
It's up to the American people. They shouldn't be in the shape they are now that they've become a blubbering idiotic mass to be manipulated. Molly Ivins said when she was alive and I remember and took it like she said at the time, and I paraphrase: We should fight them instead of letting things collapse so they finally wake up because many will suffer and die in the meantime.
Well, here we are and still, we're looking at a possible third Shurb term after everything and things are even worse and the American people are still incredibly stupid.
Hey, I will continue to work toward Obama but the American people deserve what they get. I've accepted either outcome.
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· 1 year ago
Most Americans have always been really stupid but at least most had common sense. But that changed over the last 50 years or so when people became disconnected to the land and being intimate with nature.
ron071
· 1 year ago
glasses_guy: Keep the faith. At this point acceptance is defeatist.
WANT MORE PAIN ????? VOTE Mc CAIN !!!!!!!!!
ron071
· 1 year ago
JMOHR: Your point is well taken and your suggested ad content seems to be an excellent one. Why not fax or e-mail it to the Obama campaign? You will be doing a great service and perhaps motivate more effective campaign measures. I'll add that I am a strong believer in the campaign team Obama has assembled and feel confident that they are well aware of the ned for effective rebuttals to slime. However, please do share your content suggestion with them. Thanks.
McSame's campaign is approaching a danger level beyond the pale. And it's just going to get worse.
osage
· 1 year ago
Thirty-five years ago, General Motors was America’s number 1 employer. Worker’s interests were represented by unions that protected their jobs and made sure they had health insurance, life insurance, pensions and overall job security. Auto Workers in Detroit, MI made an average hourly wage around $12.67. Workers could feed, clothe, house and educate their children by working just one job and retire when they were 65. Today, Wal-Mart is America’s number 1 employer. Unionization is forbidden. Workers in Columbus, OH make an average hourly wage around $10.93. Workers cannot feed, clothe, house and educate their children by working just one job. Wal-Mart is complicit in the obliteration of America’s middle class. Greed and corporate funded Republican politics are responsible for the majority of financial difficulties American workers and their families are struggling with today. If John McCain manages to win the presidency, the lives of working class Americans will become even more difficult. Middle class/working class Americans who vote for Republicans aren’t just being lied to and misled, they are literally enabling the destruction of their ability to feed, clothe, house and educate their children. And they are preventing their children from having a better life than they do.
ron071
· 1 year ago
osage: After the past 8 years how can any " middle-class/ working Americans" still use the " fooled " excuse? The entire country and the world know what the Wal-Mart model for labor policies is. Fool me once, fool me twice BUT fool me three times-give me a break.
WANT MORE PAIN??????? VOTE FOUR McCAIN !!!!!!!!!!
osage
· 1 year ago
Never underestimate the self-defeating gullibility of an ignorant and or emotionally dysfunctional mob. How would you explain the fact that the lower the average IQ of a state is, the more likely the people of that state will vote Republican?
That's a good point but the factor that will turn these low IQ folks around is PAIN! That's why Obama opened the door to some well-regulated additional off-shore drilling so that a PAIN issue won't be lost on the low IQ crowd. The pain facor is real and only the in-power party can take the hit for it. Thusly my motto is: Want More Pain ? Vote McCain!!!!
I agree with your take on Obama's handling of off-shore drilling. Rather than making a confrontational/polarizing effort to win the argument, Obama is deflating the issue itself by eliminating the PAIN points of both consumers and environmentalists. I just hope that the low IQ folks listen to the wisdom in his words rather than the hatred and prejudice in their hearts.
ron071
· 1 year ago
Osage: It's a very good example of the high competency of the Obama campaign and what quality will be present in an Obama administration. The differences between Bush/McCain and Obama are of a tremendous magnitude. There is real hope for change when the Republicans are put out of power. A veto-proof congress will open the road to progress after 8 years+ of darkness. Let's do all we can to insure this success. Any way you can will be great. Best, Ron
When a Republican engages in deliberate deception and manipulation, they aren't running for President. McFlipFlop is running for dictator.
ron071
· 1 year ago
Study McCain more closely. Do you see a Manchurian Candidate? I surely hope that a clothing search will take place before tthe first debate. I cannot forget what I saw when the back of Bush's jacket bulged in the spinal-center area during his debate. I know that there are several ways to steal an election and or a debate and the Rove crowd knows them all. I'm very serious. Moderators will have to be chosen more carefully and the ground rules well spelled out. Given these reasonable theft precautions, McBush will falter BADLY!
osage
· 1 year ago
Today’s Republican Party is a freak show of hate-filled sociopaths, immoral religious and social extremists, insecure, overcompensating, irresponsible, dangerously incompetent, war-mongering imperialists and greedy, exploitive corporate anarchists. Just look at the odious and inadequate carnival barkers and snake oil salesmen the Republican Party had competing to be their presidential candidate. Republicans tacitly welcome homophobes, misogynists, racists, anti-Semites and messianic fundamentalist nut jobs into their party and inherently incorporate their values into their moral fabric and political objectives. Being a child of poverty raised with four younger siblings by a single mom, I’ve never agreed with social conservatives, but compared to Bush’s Republican Party, Eisenhower’s Republican Party was a liberal bastion of social and economic enlightenment and pluralism. Defending the actions of today’s Republican Party is advocating ignorance and evil over common sense and common decency. It would be hard to imagine that any presidential administration, Republican or Democrat, could have been as malicious, polarizing, undemocratic, corrupt or destructively pernicious to the founding causes and defining principles of our republic than George W. Bush’s. I am surprised that I am ashamed for the “good” Republicans, only because I could not have possibly imagined how “bad” some Americans were capable of being.
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· 1 year ago
Me either but I can see them now. Like the trolls who support bush on many progressive blogs. There's a little pigish demon inside them. I've really learned that and I carefully avoid them out here in the world.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Yeah, I used to vote Repub at least as often as I voted Dem, but that was back when there were still moderate, Jerry Ford-style Repubs around.
After Bush/Cheney/Delay/Frist, I will never vote Repub again. They showed their evil souls.
dad
· 1 year ago
mccain is on the turD-list
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
A small study of people's reactions to the Britney-Paris ad suggested, however, that while people don't like the ad, it caused them to doubt Obama, and small percentages who'd said before viewing the ad that they'd vote for him said afterword that they wouldn't.
Those declines didn't result in more support for McCain; doubting Democrats and Republicans instead moved into the undecided column. Independents who moved away from Obama did say they'd vote for McCain.
The study was conducted among self-reported Democrats, Republicans and independents by HCD Research and the Muhlenberg College Institute of Public Opinion.
I hope Obama's people have a different strategy planned for the sprint after the conventions.
This Rope-a-Dope stuff can only work for so long.
JMOHR
· 1 year ago
Bush__Bites, you are definitely wrong. The Republicans do this every time while lame brains keep saying that it cannot work for long. You and those like you are the reason that we lose.
You cannot sit back and let them call us fools, extremists, elite, anti-christ, unAmerican and every other name in the book without fighting back. You are either a fool or a coward. It is time to be aggressive and to attack back. No wonder why we are considered unfit to lead. This is a democracy that we have to fight for. You just want to sit back and cry when you lose.
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· 1 year ago
What would you suggest?
ron071
· 1 year ago
glasses_guy: My suggestion is to beat them with their own club by using parts of their vile ads and asking the question of the voters: Is this what you want our government to be? Then add a few policy differences. The contrast will do them in. Yes, use their own slime to sink them in.
WANT MORE PAIN ??????? VOTE McCAIN !!!!!!!!!
ron071
· 1 year ago
JMOHR: It is you who is wrong. The Obama campaign and surrogates have and are fighting back but perhaps not in the vulgar manner you might prefer. It's a fine line between reason and mud in the political environment. Become a believer in a higher road through strength and not a fight in the mud the Republicans live in.
You can be sure that the Obama campaign is not unaware of fighting strongly and will not make the Kerry campaign errors of no response.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Where did I suggest sitting back?
You misread my post.
I said we can't use a "rope a dope" strategy forever.
sherifffruitfly
· 1 year ago
But Obama's still blackityblackityblackblack, so I figure it's 50-50 who wins.
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· 1 year ago
Why, that's close enough to steal. That's all they need...
ron071
· 1 year ago
Will the slime tactics work again for the THIRD TIME? Can the majority of American voters be fooled for a THIRD TIME? The answers to these questions will tell us all what kind of America this is. Is it a Bush/Cheney/Rove/Wolfowitz/Gonzalez/McCain America or has it freed itself from the delusions and corruptions foisted upon us by these merchants of darkness? WANT MORE PAIN?????? VOTE McCAIN!!!!!!!!
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
I think 2004 pretty much decided what kind of a country this is.
jr
· 1 year ago
"we'll pretend Paris Hilton's parents aren't McCain donors"-cable news
liberaldemdave
· 1 year ago
maxed-out donors, at that. i love the irony of it all.
Waiting4U
· 1 year ago
From now on, whenever Ipost a comment anywhere or wrie letters to the editors, I will refer to McSame's campaign as "The D-List Campaign". Everyone should - get it to Maddow, Olbermann, etc to get it on air. It's a winner.
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At least Obama is raking in the dough!
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/Plo...
The saddest part is Britney & Paris haven't even been in the news so much lately, and Paris seems to have made at least a slight change for the better since her jail stint.
I just think is shows how truly on top of the news he and his people really aren't. What else is he clueless about? oh...that much <crying>
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/01/mccain...
Memo to McNasty: In a deck of cards, there are hearts, diamonds, spades and clubs. There are more than just "black and white cards" in the race deck, sir. There are also brown, yellow and red. You, sir, have played the race card...AGAIN.
Wonder how we can let them know that McCain is producing ads in Spanish?
It's usually just that profile still shot trying to make him look heroic or something.
If they do have a video of him at all, it's a video of him sort of moving into that profile shot or a quick tag line saying he approved the message.
They're really trying to hide his feebleness.
WANT MORE PAIN ?????? VOTE Mc CAIN !!!!!!!
undrstand what you've written. Thanks, Ron
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re-reading, that end of my comment looks wierd!
Everyone knows that THE HONORABLE AND UNTOUCHABLE JOHN MCCAIN isn't fit to kiss Kathy Griffin's ass.
As a matter of fact, I'd vote for Kathy Griffin over McCain any day. At least she is highly competent at making people laugh, while the only thing John McCain seems to be competent at is cashing in on his POW status. YEAH, I SAID IT YOU FUCKING MEDIA ASSKISSERS!
I wish the media could just answer ONE question for me:
If John McCain had not been held in Vietnam as a POW, how much money per hour would he be pulling down running a convenience store in Phoenix?
And one more question that the media will NEVER answer no matter how many times I write and ask:
In what way does being a POW qualify McCain to be president? Just answer the fucking question! Just once!
WANT MORE PAIN ?????? VOTE McCAIN !!!!!!!!!!
nasty would be a better description.
stupid even if despicable reasons motivate them. It used to be called
biting your nose to spite your face which is, in the final analysis, stupid. WANT
MORE PAIN ????VOTE Mc Cain!!!!!!
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In my country, we have same funny people; only is called 'Most Glorious Dicktator'.
I am now most happy dat Mr. Dick Chanee and now Mr. John McCaNN, have like to visit and emulate most Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan.
I hope dey can help me to find celebrity called PamEhlla Anderson...
No, we can ridicule McCain and make some damned important points. There should be a commercial on his confusion. Lieberman correcting him, his lost in la la land look on the viagra question and one of his staffers stating that McCain is not speaking for his own campaign. His age and rather obvious lack of intellect (896th in his class at the academy) should be important issues. We can make the point and fire back at him.
Otherwise, we will be sitting around trying to figure out why we could not win given the sorry state of the country. Wake up idiots or we will once again lose a sure thing. Democrats, grow some balls.
Somebody needs to send Tweety a link to this dKos diary about the utterly fucked up WSJ editorial about Obama being "too skinny" to be president. The diary is snarkalicious and the comments ooze ridicule (with sprinkles).
Well, here we are and still, we're looking at a possible third Shurb term after everything and things are even worse and the American people are still incredibly stupid.
Hey, I will continue to work toward Obama but the American people deserve what they get. I've accepted either outcome.
WANT MORE PAIN ????? VOTE Mc CAIN !!!!!!!!!
McSame's campaign is approaching a danger level beyond the pale. And it's just going to get worse.
WANT MORE PAIN??????? VOTE FOUR McCAIN !!!!!!!!!!
http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
is PAIN! That's why Obama opened the door to some well-regulated additional
off-shore drilling so that a PAIN issue won't be lost on the low IQ crowd.
The pain facor is real and only the in-power party can take the hit for it.
Thusly my motto is: Want More Pain ? Vote McCain!!!!
**************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget?
Read reviews on AOL Autos.
(http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-r... )
campaign and what quality will be present in an Obama administration. The
differences between Bush/McCain and Obama are of a tremendous magnitude. There is
real hope for change when the Republicans are put out of power. A veto-proof
congress will open the road to progress after 8 years+ of darkness. Let's do
all we can to insure this success. Any way you can will be great. Best, Ron
**************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget?
Read reviews on AOL Autos.
(http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-r... )
After Bush/Cheney/Delay/Frist, I will never vote Repub again. They showed their evil souls.
Those declines didn't result in more support for McCain; doubting Democrats and Republicans instead moved into the undecided column. Independents who moved away from Obama did say they'd vote for McCain.
The study was conducted among self-reported Democrats, Republicans and independents by HCD Research and the Muhlenberg College Institute of Public Opinion.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/46165.html
no courage
This Rope-a-Dope stuff can only work for so long.
You cannot sit back and let them call us fools, extremists, elite, anti-christ, unAmerican and every other name in the book without fighting back. You are either a fool or a coward. It is time to be aggressive and to attack back. No wonder why we are considered unfit to lead. This is a democracy that we have to fight for. You just want to sit back and cry when you lose.
WANT MORE PAIN ??????? VOTE McCAIN !!!!!!!!!
You can be sure that the Obama campaign is not unaware of fighting strongly and will not make the Kerry campaign errors of no response.
You misread my post.
I said we can't use a "rope a dope" strategy forever.
Everyone should - get it to Maddow, Olbermann, etc to get it on air.
It's a winner.