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AMERICAblog: KeatingEconomics.com: Obama to launch massive multimedia offensive against McCain re Keating Five Scandal

  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Wow! As I said below this came as a complete surprise, but a good surprise. This is putting OBama in the offensive rather defensive positon. AND the beauty of it all is that it is true, not some snarky statement that tries to tie an 8 year old Obama to Ayers. Wow Wow Wow
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Its only fair! Thank God the Obama - Biden camp are fighting progressives!
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    "All weekend McCain sent the head of his ticket, Sarah Palin, out to talk about Barack "

    "head of his ticket, Sarah Palin," snicker!!!
  • Laur · 1 year ago
    She calls him "Brok". *snark*
  • mmedefarge · 1 year ago
    maybe that is what Bristol will name her kid...
  • Laur · 1 year ago
    I second it: WOW! I love it that the Obama campaign has done their homework and are showing it to the American people. I love it that he's going after McCain on documented facts that remind the voters just what a crook McCain has been. Love to see McGrumpy/Chirpy whine, whine, whine again about how history is nothing more than "looking back when we should be looking forward".
    Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Okay, haven't even seen the 13 minute documentary but would recommend that the next "association" to be investigated is Sarah Palin's . I mean Todd, the first dude, was active in a political group that wanted to secede from the USA. And he was in this organization for years. Now how would Mrs. Mean Mouth explain THAT association.
  • BarbaraGordon · 1 year ago
    I think that this was Obama's game plan all along: hold the Keating Five card until the end in case it was needed.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Tuesday's debate is going to be UGLY.
  • John Aravosis · 1 year ago
    Except that it's Townhall style, so very difficult to get nasty - the next citizen can call you on it publicly
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 1 year ago
    supposedly McCain's favorite format. but it means he won't have a chance to defend or counterattack in front of a national audience.
  • ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith) · 1 year ago
    Well, supposedly Foreign Policy was McCains best topic, but he got it handed to him in that debate. Beware of the media spin, just because they say the advantage is McCains, don't believe it upfront.
  • budpaul · 1 year ago
    I'd call this one heckuva October Surprise!
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    this is good stuff.
    McCain likes to blow off the Keating mess in typical GOPer fashion...i sinned, i repented, i have atoned, look how righteous i am now...

    bull. shit.
  • John Aravosis · 1 year ago
    Yep, he was 54 years old. You sin, it kind of says who you are as a person by the time you're in your 50s.
  • blackwolf · 1 year ago
    Keep pounding them John. This is good stuff. Make the Obama campaign hammer this home for the next 30 days. This is why I contribute to the campaign.
  • Heather · 1 year ago
    Shock and Awe Obama style -- WOW!
  • Wild_Weasel · 1 year ago
    McCain can't handle the truth.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way!
  • Marshall Y. · 1 year ago
    I'm elated to see Obama beating the Republicans to the punch on this. I knew Obama was saving the Keating narrative as his ace in the hole/nuclear option to preempt the inevitable dirty plays by the McCain campaign... I wonder how long Obama's campaign held the domain rights to keatingeconomics.com? :-)
  • sherifffruitfly · 1 year ago
    Methinks they were just WAITING for McCrony to "go there".
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    I personally do not like these ugly tactics, but now, seeing what Obama has gone through these past couple of days, and even hearing idiots like Hasslebeck, mentioning Ayers, I think it is time Obama fought back fire with fire. Enough of MCCain and Shrill Sarah's BS. People in glass houses, should not throw stones, and now McCain/Palin is going to get a boulder on their heads. Time to stand up to Rovian tactics.
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    If you live in a glass house...
    Seriously though, what the hell was McCain thinking? Did he think Obama was too nice a guy to get down in the dirt with him?
    I worry about a set up. Why did McCain announce his intention to go dirty on Obama? Something doesn't smell right.
  • John Aravosis · 1 year ago
    Oh they're now gonna say "see, Obama's not for change" blah blah. Doesn't matter. McCain's Keating past is slimy as hell. And now we all get to talk about it. Which means the media will talk about it. And John McCain will be forced to respond to it, all week.
  • vkobaya · 1 year ago
    McCain is far more slimy than just the Keating scandal. He also abandoned many POW is Vietnam and then covered up that many ([probably on the order of one hundred) of them never came home. I wouldn't even call it slime but it is closer to being a traitor in my opinion.

    The North Vietnamese held them hoping to extort us for ransom money, but the damn Nixon administration didn't want to spend the money on ransoming our soldiers. McCain went along with it and helped the Nixon administration cover up our stingy government that was too cheap to ransom our soldiers.
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 1 year ago
    in this case, i think obama will be acquitted because of the unwritten 'you started it' clause.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Kind of funny.

    I wonder if Mayor Daley--who was upset with the McCain campaign for some ads they did claiming his brother was one of Obama's alleged shady "Chicago Machine" connections--had some inside info. on what was coming.

    Asked if he is suggesting a Keating Five ad, Daley shot back: “It would be a great ad. People lost their life savings. Life savings, their own homes, for a guy named Keating out of Arizona.

    "You want to get tough in politics, I can get tough in politics as anyone else," Daley said. "When you start throwing mud, mud is going to be thrown at you and it’s going to be sticky.”


    http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/20...
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    "I have been thinking that I would make a proposition to my Republican friends ... that if they will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them.

    ADLAI STEVENSON, speech, Sep. 10, 1952"
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 1 year ago
    that's excellent! now if mccain has to cry 'uncle', could it mean the end of atwater-rove politics for the forseeable future?
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    We can only hope, Steve
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    That's an awesome quote Karol.

    Thanks for digging that up :-)
  • anneeeliz · 1 year ago
    Obama quoted that awhile ago. Looks like it was not a threat, but a promise.

    God, this is so hot.
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 1 year ago
    Mike Allen at Politico keeps saying "has forbade". is he not a native english speaker?
  • mmedefarge · 1 year ago
    I am too tired to look it up, but I think it is appropriate usage, a little archaic or British maybe, which would make English his native language :-)
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 1 year ago
    naw, forbade is the simple past. forbidden is the participle. like german verboten.
  • mmedefarge · 1 year ago
    You are right. It sounded OK to me, though....told you I was tired!
  • DoctorJ · 1 year ago
    This is beautiful, and, more importantly, so RELEVANT to what's happening with the financial meltdown today. That will make it even more effective.

    Barack Obama: Speak softly and carry a big stick.
  • Stevens · 1 year ago
    About time. It's vital that McCain's Keating Five scandal be brought up now.

    And then there's McCain's other association too...that of the Watergate criminal G. Gordon Liddy who has reportedly held a fundraiser for McCain. McCain has called him an "old friend" , said he had "principles that kept our nation great" and "vouched for Liddy's character".

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200810040004
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    Can you imagine having that nutbag "vouch for your character"?
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    This photo of the little Palin daughter flipping off a young boy while Mom is standing there says a LOT about Palin's parenting skills.

    http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/event/940/700/2...

    Can you imagine the total outrage if one of the little Obama girls did this at an event? The apple doesn't fall far from the tree does it?
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    OMG! Is that photo real?
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    It looks like a real photo to me, and as far as I'm concerned I don't care. As long as Republicans continue to lie about Obama ANYTHING and I mean ANYTHING is fair game!
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    My god, that's a great photo. Look at the eyes on that little girl.
  • Kansaskitty · 1 year ago
    Mean as a snake...just like mama!
  • mmedefarge · 1 year ago
    that's hilarious! The mother of the year starts early with not paying attention to what her kids are doing..
  • baudknight · 1 year ago
    Fake. Look around her head, she's pasted in using photoshop or equivalent.
  • anneeeliz · 1 year ago
    I cannot get over this. It's amazing. They knew, they knew McCain would get into the muck and they had this, waiting. They bought the domain, made the doc, and sat in the bushes and waited.

    This is incredible. AND they are making it fit into the broader narrative about the economy. I am seriously in awe.
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    Palin's comments racist? (AP) - http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93KD6Q...
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    This is great.....absopositively great !!

    Goooooooooo Barack !
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    Very good! As well he should.
  • Jessica54 · 1 year ago
    HAHAHA, I love it.
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    This is great.

    I gather this is Chicago style at its best. I love it!

    Why is it that everything McCrazyCAin does BACKFIRES on him big time?

    McCrazyCain wants to attack, let him go right ahead and get a piece of his old medicine.
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    Remember the good ol' days with Carly Fiorina? LOL
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    She has gone hunting with Dick Cheney and Ken Lay in Paraguay. Wow. It rhymes.

    But seriously. She did go away. Fast.
  • bumpkis · 1 year ago
    McCain flips out in 3...2....
  • ezpz · 1 year ago
    Must see:

    "BILL AYERS: AN OPEN LETTER FOR JOHN MCCAIN & KARL ROVE"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnMBkN37ahg
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Thanks for the link.
  • ezpz · 1 year ago
    YW

    John Lennon's "Imagine" foloowed by "Let It Be" makes this video all the better.
  • califkg · 1 year ago
    Thank you so much for your lucid clarification. Your experience illustrates like few others just how far the media has fallen. For what it's worth, I'm sharing this video with my family and friends.
  • burro · 1 year ago
    Don't f**k with community organizers.
  • johnt66 · 1 year ago
    It's about time and it should be ran everyday for a week and more if possible,just to pour salt on the wound they should also notice that McCain son was a part of another bank failure just 2 months ago.
  • interlude · 1 year ago
    nice that they are going on the attack...the smart thing to do.
    glad this is on the internet
    BUT
    when will they put something from it on the TEEVEE machine?
    Joe Sixpack doesn't watch youtube, he watches ABC News.

    plus this stuff belongs on commercials on NFL Football
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    but most of the Joe Sixpack's do have email.... send the thing around.
  • interlude · 1 year ago
    just saying i hope they spend some smart $$ to get this on prime time
  • califkg · 1 year ago
    I agree with the TV comment. There are millions of people who still watch TV for hours every night, even those who spend time on the Internet - and they tend to be far more influenced by it. The campaign needs to do both. The video should saturate the 'Net on Monday, it should be released in commercial format on TV the same day and given whatever other exposure can be conceived of. Although I find it hard to believe, apparently there are still a lot of voters who are undecided. Give them something to think about besides McBush's vicious ads.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    I think this is very smart of Obama's team. They won't have to go on TV because the pundits won't be able to resist bringing this up on national TV.
  • paulbe · 1 year ago
    Given the now accepted nastiness that has become necessary to survive in US politics, I'd like to see Obama shove a few swift boats right up McCain's withered slack old arse.
  • califkg · 1 year ago
    Well said! What they did to Kerry over his military service in '04 was a travesty. It's about time we showed them where Swift Boat tactics REALLY belong - where the sun don't shine! And I think Obama and Biden are smart enough to do it with far more finesse than McCain-Palin. I say hit 'em hard and fast and often.
  • canuck55 · 1 year ago
    From the June 14 2008 NY Times:
    Obama: ‘We Bring a Gun’
    By The New York Times

    Senator Barack Obama was fund-raising Friday night in Philadelphia. But he was talking about “the Chicago way.”

    Channeling the mob drama, “The Untouchables,” Mr. Obama said in reference to the general election rumble with the Republicans: “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”
  • Rufus · 1 year ago
    Well, damn, about time, you betcha.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Even in 1989 a Phoenix newspaper accused John McCain of being "reprehensible" in the Keating 5 scandal. The paper rips McCain including mentioning how tiring it is of hearing about his POW story. 1989 mind you!! You could the year 2008 and the story would still be more than applicable today.

    http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1989-11-29/news/...
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    Not a newspaper in this country would write that story today.
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    The BACKFIRE has begun ... and it's not even Monday!

    Analysis: Palin's words may backfire on McCain

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081006/ap_on_el_pr...

    "The problem is the messenger. If you want to start throwing fire bombs, you don't send out the fluffy bunny to do it. I think people don't take Sarah Palin seriously."
  • califkg · 1 year ago
    I too would love to believe that - but unfortunately, the signs I'm seeing don't bear it out. In spite of the fact that Palin has no grasp of the facts, much less the truth, surviving instead on cute little folksyisms and "You betchas," and "Doggone it's," too many people who should know better are - don't ask me why - rather taken with her. I don't think they represent a majority, mind you - but they're out there, and they're vocal. I think Obama-Biden need to go on the attack and do it NOW.
  • celticdiva · 1 year ago
    You clearly haven't met Sarah Palin...

    She ain't no fluffy bunny by a longshot! She has a beautiful smile while she's knifing you in the back...like most beauty queens.
  • Shlomo · 1 year ago
    The best part of all this is that the Obama campaign (and the rest of the world) have something their opponents do not. Namely, lots of file footage, Senate record, and VIDEO of McCain's involvement, denial of involvement, censure, and subsequent non-repentant attitude toward similar policy.

    The opposition can bark and snarl all they wish regarding Bill Ayers, but we have to do is run the tape. It speaks for itself. Bill Ayers never participated or enabled the looting of savings accounts or pension funds held by middle class folks. Bill Ayers didn't walk away with billions of dollars leaving the taxpayer holding the bag. Bill Ayers did not lobby Congress to change or ignore banking regulations to help his political mentors scam American citizens. Bill Ayers rehabilitated his past by working to change the future. Obama's partnership, friendship, association, collaboration, etc. or whatever you want to call it, never required the American taxpayer to come to their rescue to the tune of billions.

    John McCain continues to hobnob and cater to the Phil Gramm's and Charles Keatings of the world. He is the same old same old ever and ever. And we pay the price coming and going.
  • mariesal · 1 year ago
    Hit them back and hit them hard. We cannot the McCain campaign swift-boat Obama. I recently read the the McCain campaign is collecting campaign funds through a loophole in the Mccain-Feingold law. The law he uses to state he is a maverick... This man has no honor, he's a liar and will do anything to win.
  • ahermit · 1 year ago
    If Palin keeps talking about Ayers Obama's supporters should counter with her much closer association with a member of a radical, anti-American group...husband Todd's membership in the separatist Alaska Independence Party.

    Let's get the media talking about how until a couple of years ago her husband was a member of a party whose founder was killed in a shootout while trying to illegally purchase high explosives, and that she herself gave speeches at their convention...
  • SarainKC · 1 year ago
    Fantastic idea. Their phantom guilt by association scandals versus McCain's greedy little paws all over the 2 biggest financial disasters this country has faced since the Great Depression. (If McCain had been old enough to have had an impact in 1929, just think how much worse it could have been!).

    Another thing I think would be great to do is take the Freeway Blogger idea and plaster posters all over this country signs that read "Who is Vicki Iseman?" and "Where is Vicki Iseman?". If there are hundreds popping up in cities all over the country, it may not get national media's attention, but local media will start asking questions. People might even get curious about who this woman is and google her. She prostituted herself for her clients, whom McCain rewarded with his influence. What if Russia sends a gorgeous spy to seduce our commandor in Chief? Will his other brain betray our beloved country? You betcha!
  • gdclark · 1 year ago
    Well! It's about time guys. What took you so long? I'm surprised you've been able to stomach it this long.
    I've never heard Mrs. Obama smear a candidate. So when Sen. McCain's wife is out here doing it, man, that's low. We're in a new era now. With the internet and other media devices that give us more access to information, these "scare" tactics and "oh we can just put it out there! Those ignorant blue-collar rednecks don't know any better" days are gone! Of course it's so much easier to put out unverified info to try to scare people you're clearly not in touch with than to get some experts together and hammer out comprehensive and effective policies that the American people can get behind you on. I'm still trying to figure out what the heck Sen. McCain was thinking turning down Romney or the former Mayor of New York. I'm not Republican, but when I hear them talk, especially Romney at the second debate, I thought " Well I would at least paid attention and listened to what they had to say." I'm a women and a independent. Sorry, but she just doesn't do it for me.