DISQUS

AMERICAblog: "Kill him!"

  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    OMG, I was at work all day and came home to this mess. The stock market, the smears, the hatred, it is almost too much to wrap your mind around. I really, really hate Palin, even though I know she is being coached by McCain's team, there is an element to her that is repulsive in her own right.
  • KerrynowCampau · 1 year ago
    Isn't there some law enforcement agency that cares?
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    my point above.
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    I just finished a good book about JFK's assassination (Talbot, The Brothers), and only one Secret Service man put his life on the line for his president that day in Dallas. I read that Obama had his own protection as well as the SS during the primaries, and I hope he continues to do so.
  • Gridlock · 1 year ago
    I love how they keep repeating this garbage even though it's been debunked about 10 times over now.

    I love how people are stupid enough to buy it.

    Some people need to be put on an island, preferably one with no sharp corners, where they can drool and play with brightly colored, simple geometric shapes.
  • henrythefifth · 1 year ago
    It's all they have. Seriously, (and sadly, and frighteningly) this is it.
  • CafeRacer · 1 year ago
    This just doesn't surprise me at all.
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    John, do us all a favor and get rid of the cutesy picture of Palin. Show her in one of her attack pictures but don't continue to play up her looks like she isn't the deceitful, hate filled person that she is.
    This is exactly what is wrong with America. I have said here repeatedly that we have gone from disagreement to wanting someone dead. Bush started this with your either with me or against me. Putting a bounty on the Iraqi leaders. The deck of cards bullshit. Is there no one left in this country who can influence John McCain, Rove and their band of goons. Where the fuck is the Secret Service when someone shouts out that he should be killed. Is there anyone left on the right with any decency. Shit, I guess I just answered my own question.
  • John Aravosis · 1 year ago
    I want the cutesy picture next to the phrase "kill him!" It's about time people saw just how cute she really is.
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    You know these people actually scare me. Here in Northwestern Pa. it would not take much to convince the folks that Obama personally destroyed their retirement. They are irrational, have always voted Republican and can't stand the fact that a Nxxxxxxr might be President.
    I see your point, but she makes me puke in my mouth.
  • TheAngryFag · 1 year ago
    Agreed. Not to mention the use of an attack picture gives the apologists something to attempt to deflect the comment with.
  • Cjeffery · 1 year ago
    Maybe I'm wrong here but since Mr.Ayers was not found gulity of anything could he not sue Palin for libel??????
    I mean liber is define as.
    An untruthful statement about a person, published in writing or through broadcast media, that injures the person's reputation or standing in the community. Because libel is a tort (a civil wrong), the injured person can bring a lawsuit against the person who made the false statement.

    I would say this is damgeing to him and a threat to his life.
  • kevinbgoode · 1 year ago
    You might have something there. . .a court ruled in Florida that a con-servative who staked out and attacked abortion clinics and gay clubs could not be tried as a "domestic terrorist" because the judge claimed that terrorists had to be foreign. Outrageous, I know. . .:-).

    But since Palin has been heavily affiliated with the independence movement in Alaska - a rather nasty act of treason given that it was the tax dollars from the United States which paid for the purchase of the territory, perhaps we should press to sell the state back to Russia to help pay off our debt - and then suggest Palin and her secessionist movement talk to Putin. Let's see how far her "hockey mom" "barricuda" style gets her . . .
  • lark83 · 1 year ago
    Ayers needs to stay low and keep his mouth shut. The truth is he was guilty of everything. He got very lucky to not spend his life in prison, and I think he knows that. He has managed to stay out of trouble and mostly make a life of accomplishment. He is lucky as hell none of his bombs 40 years ago killed anybody.
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    Drill, baby, drill! Kill, baby, kill!
  • Hurrycane · 1 year ago
    *shudder*

    Gonna need the Ambien tonight...
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    A demagogue in an updo and f^ck-me pumps.
  • driver1076 · 1 year ago
    This crazy bitch needs to be arrested for insighting violence on a presidential canidate plain and simple throw her sorry ass in Gautonomo Bay with the other terrorist that have tried to bring harm to this country
  • gallery · 1 year ago
    "Hunting season" has officially begun. I've been edgy as shit the last couple of weeks knowing that this moment was coming, but not knowing what to do about it.
    It is now less than one month away from the election, and the stink is going to rise beyond tolerable levels for most of us.
    I read this great essay by Daniel Chun over at huffpo today...... made me feel less insane.
    Here's the link if you want to see that your not alone.
    www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-chun/the-case-for...
    Other than that.... I hope all are well, and coping.
  • Ivee · 1 year ago
    Gallery, y ou're not crazy. I feel pretty much the same way that you do. We knew this moment was coming, but geez, who knew it would involve the equivalent of not-so-subliminal death threats? Even I, in my deep and abiding cynicism, could see this coming. Don't even know what to say about it except the Republicans seem to have become entirely unhinged.

    The positive side of me says that, with our economy tanking and our retirement dreams going up in smoke, it won't work this time. It won't. But all it takes is one nut job. McCain and Palin are despicable. Voters will see that, at least the ones who haven't gone off sanity cliff. But I hear you, and I agree, and you're certainly not insane. :)

    Light some candles. It helps.
  • henrythefifth · 1 year ago
    These new Republican rallies sound disarmingly similar to the witch burning scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I can just imagine Sir Bedevere going through the logic..."What is Ayers? An alleged terrorist. And who hangs out with terrorists? Yes, OTHER terrorists! Obama is therefore a terrorist, floats in water because he is made of wood, and must be killed!"

    Sadly, it isn't funny in this case, these people are frightening, violent, hateful and dangerous.
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    The republiCONs are NAZIS reincarnated.

    They must be banned from our DEMOCRATIC government forever!
  • martha · 1 year ago
    So sad for our country.
  • MnDem · 1 year ago
    I'm not surprised. These people have listened to hate, hate, hate, 24/7 for 20+ years.

    Maybe we should now start reminding people of the people killed in the "liberal" church, and the head of the Arkansas Democratic Party murdered.

    Hate feeds on itself, until it blinds. Will someone be killed? Probably. But it won't be Obama. It will be someone with an Obama bumper sticker, or a neighbor with a lawn sign. I'm an old history major, and I'm always reminded that that Germany of the 1930's didn't happen overnight.
  • Wild_Weasel · 1 year ago
    McCain/Palin are getting desperate and reckless.
  • samiinh · 1 year ago
    I think Palin is one of the most arrogant, hateful people I've ever seen; she is definitely George Bush in a dress and CFMs.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Mooselini's beer hall rant, while swathed in Aimee Semple McPherson white, was as ugly and poorly informed as her crazed mob of goons sounded.
    Does Johnny really want to precipitate the kind of emotional convulsion that would leave his tiny minority trapped in a blackened bunker with cynide the only option?
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    Truthfully, I don't think he'd care... this is ABOUT HIM, not about the nutjobs he needs.
  • shrrrr · 1 year ago
    Why was this guy not arrested?
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    I would really like to know the answer to that question. The man in the crowd advocated killing a presidential candidate. Where was the FBI?
  • MC_Haiku · 1 year ago
    isn't the secret service, by law, supposed to investigate any threat such as this?
  • Ginger_FL · 1 year ago
    I find these "comments" from the "crowd" very disturbing.....

    I have a bad feeling they are not spontanous or from joe 6-pack.....

    I speculate that these things are coming from McGrumpy people trying to rile up their "base" of bigots.

    Why these people immediately arrested by the Secret Service........I find it very suspicious.

    Someone turns their back on Dumbya at a rally and they are arrested...yet some "person" yells out at a rally for McPalin advocating the murder of a Senator / Presidential Canidate and they are not arrested????
    Very fishy.....
  • martha · 1 year ago
    I was listening to the Stephanie Miller show this morning. A woman called in and said she went to a Palin Rally - pulled out an Obama sign during the rally, was attacked by the people, her sign was ripped up, and she was led out of the rally without ever saying a word. Chilling.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    I used the word "goon" to describe Johnny's vocal crowd.

    goon n. Slang
    1. A thug hired to intimidate or harm opponents.
    2. A stupid or oafish person.


    The cheers at Johnny and Palin's beer hall assemblies lacked the rush of spontaneous expression precisely because they were fomented...
    Without out even considering the gargantuan Republican failures, Johnny's ugly campaign alone could set the GOP back for multiple cycles....

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/goon
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    I have said it before, the right wing has a dangerous element. It can be whipped into a frenzy in a short amount of time. Is this what McCain wants, is this what he is hoping for, assassination, because that is where it could potentially be heading with the unchecked remarks.
  • kevinbgoode · 1 year ago
    This is also the desperate cry of a political party which is increasingly irrelevant and on the verge of losing vast amounts of its power in national and state governments. Right wing Republicans, once they hold power, are never pleasant about passing the reins or gracefully leaving when the voters choose otherwise. No matter how many diaper-wearing scandals, trysts in public bathrooms, or adultering affairs they have had, they cling to every last thread of power until their fingers are pried loose. It is the same grip they've had on the throats of the American public while their hands picked our pockets for the last 25 years.

    This morning, I had to call the phone company over a simple. . .let me repeat that....SIMPLE. . .problem with the telephone bill. An entire hour spent on the phone being shuffled around from one automated voice and pressed button after another, only to be greeted with demands to repeat the information again verbally to a real person. This is what deregulation means to Americans in everyday life. Every phone call to a utility or a company to discuss a good or service is greeted with outrageously long periods of waiting or slavery to an automated system which almost never has the choices we need to select. When you are finally CLEARED to wait for a real person, the wait continues. . .we are no longer customers of the large corporations, but servants treated as serfs who must wait in line for the privilege of discussing our contracts with the business.
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    This is why I left Time-Warner. I barely watch cable - rabbit ears are fine with me as I beat them to their corporate slavery games.
  • tas · 1 year ago
    This is why the whole thing will blow up in McCain's face. These nut-jobs that go to their campaign functions will do this, like calling out "terrorist" at the McCain rally. And real Americans will get sick to their stomach to hear it, if we can force MSM to report on it. God, Republicans make me want to throw up.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Remember those stories a month or so ago, about Palin throwing around racial epithets in Alaska after Obama won the primaries.

    http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09/05/alaskan...

    I really believe this woman is racist and anti-semetic.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    I believe this woman is an ambitious, morally deficient, power grabbing psycho. I believe this woman would commit murder if she thought it would help.
  • Verchiel · 1 year ago
    Not that this is an excuse or justification, but the way that reads to me is that the jackass in the crowd was just as likely--if not *more* so--yelling about Ayers rather than Obama. She still should've publicly rebuked such garbage, but describing this as a call for assassination seems to be something of a reach.
  • shrrrr · 1 year ago
    Sorry. No dice. Calling for Ayers death is nuts, too.
  • Verchiel · 1 year ago
    Don't recall saying it *wasn't* nuts, just a questionable reading of the events.
  • shrrrr · 1 year ago
    What's unquestionable is death was suggested. Nice.
  • Verchiel · 1 year ago
    Which I think is the bigger issue.

    By going right to "They're calling for assassination" it gives the wingnuts room to maneuver and say "they were talking about Ayers," which, unfortunately, too many people might find acceptable.

    Instead of going right for the "they want Obama dead" shock, the better (IMO) strategy would be, right away, pointing out the fact that, **regardless of who the focus is** a major political campaign is galvanizing some of its supporters to call for murder.
  • brb915 · 1 year ago
    You're right the first time----it is no excuse......can you hear yourself????? SOme dumbass was yelling KILL HIM. Would YOU yell that in a crowd??? It is somewhat of a reach for you to seem to justify death of one versus another.
  • Verchiel · 1 year ago
    Did you even bother to read the first sentence of my response?

    I guess since I refrained from extraneous question marks and emphatic capitalization my point may have been lost.

    Instead of going right for the "they want Obama dead" shock, the better (IMO) strategy would be, right away, pointing out the fact that, **regardless of who the focus is** a major political campaign is galvanizing some of its supporters to call for murder.
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    ""Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience."

    That's what McCain and his group were hoping would happen. McCain knew going into this he had no chance of winning. He was too closely tied to Bush.
    The only way was for "something" to happen to Obama. This explains why he has been "erratic and pissed" lately. It hasn't happened.
    Didn't Hillary elude to this when she was running against Obama?
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    yes she did...can't remember exaclty what she said....but somehow tied it to what happened to Bobby Kennedy.
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    it was something about comparing this primary to the primary of '68 having not been decided until late June and then RFK was assassinated...
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    That's right!
  • Polly_Tics · 1 year ago
    During the Primary, Hillary Clinton did, in fact, allude to the RFK assassination when referencing Obama. It was a disgraceful attempt at sheer political gain while sending the message that such an effort was a possibility.

    Hillary was attempting to explain why she insisted on staying in the race far after it was appropriate and this was how she explained it. Here is what she said verbatim:

    "My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it." Clinton said."

    I'm delighted Hillary was defeated in the Primary and this is merely ONE example of why she is the wrong candidate for our country.
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    Ummm, if you're going for the psycho "cutesy" angle on this, the photo from this ThinkProgress post would be better...
  • nsr · 1 year ago
    Pollster.com has Obama over the 270 electoral vote threshold for the first time.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    exactly as I keep saying... GO MCSAME GO!!!

    nothing pushes Obama's numbers up faster than mcsame/palin actually going on the attack, while never mentioning ANY of the issues important to us.

    I'm hoping, with the way mcsame is attacking... Obama will be polling nationally at around %65 in a week or two.

    never thought I'd say it but... thank you mcsame campaign!!! keep it up!

    .
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    The Electoral vote has him at 329:

    http://www.electoral-vote.com/
  • HereinDC · 1 year ago
    Just saw a McCain clip speaking on Olbermann.....McCain's eye did that same thing. That weird blink
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    When elected officials imply other elected officials are terrorists then the blood is on their hands when they get their crazy Talibangelicals to attempt to assasinate him! The Mc$hame - Palin camp need to KNOCK IT OFF! They KNOW they have plenty of crazy Talibangelicals who think Sarah is some sort of prophet sending them "Holy messages" to go after Obama.

    They are asking for a disaster. Then again, the Mc$hame - Palin camp probably want a disaster. They would rather lose our country than lose this election. "Country Last" is their motto!
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    They really have no shame.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Doesn't the U.S. Senate have any sort of rules to prevent one member from getting their constituents, and fellow Americans, to think other Senators are traitors to their country? I mean its unethical and more than dishonorable to try to generate such distrust and hatred that people might actually try to assasinate one of their Senate colleagues. I think maybe the Senate leaders should step in here and tell Senator McCain to tone it down!
  • Jessica54 · 1 year ago
    Wow, this is getting bad.

    What a selfish asshole. She does not appreciate nor care that Obama is risking his life every single day. And she has the audacity to call him un-American, wtf.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    "Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.

    Palin went on to say that "Obama held one of the first meetings of his political career in Bill Ayers's living room, and they've worked together on various projects in Chicago."

    contacted for a response, the McCain campaign stated that "pitchforks and torches will be available at all McCain/Palin rallies later this month".



    ----

    at a later speaking engagement McCain/Palin supporters were quoted saying similar phrases "Burn the witch!", "Where's Joe McCarthy when you need him?!", "A pox on the Obama house!" and "Does this dress make me look fat?"
    were also heard; the latter from Sarah Palin herself.
  • woodroad34 · 1 year ago
    I do believe Mis Governor Avon Lady is "palling around" with murders!

    By the way, if she was able to read the NY Times article (among the thousands of magazines and newspapers she reads on a daily basis or as she put it "All of them"), she would have noticed that Obama only met him at functions and never actually palled around with him. But I suppose Ayers is so much worse than being married to a separtist, being cured by a Witch Doctor, lying, cheating on your husband or abuse of power, or for that matter, even pretending that you have any actual worth to America. A Skank by any other name is still Sarah Palin
  • RobertSanDimas · 1 year ago
    Hmmmmmm isn't that "inciting violence" or something like that? She let it go. This country is lost.
  • coolcatdaddy · 1 year ago
    McCain, Palin and their entire campaign are beneath contempt.

    It's not enough to lie. It's not enough to play their base for suckers, going on about "family values", "hockey moms" and "elitism". The campaign is choosing a very dangerous course, using rhetoric to spark fear, hatred and racism.

    Yes, I know there's going to be a portion of their base that eats this stuff up, but, I feel the majority of the American public will find it as disturbing, distasteful and disgusting as many of the posters on this board do.

    However, if they keep it up, someone's going to get hurt. I can see some nut-case reacting to this talk and deciding to do an act of violence at a campaign rally, a small town campaign headquarters or polling places.

    This kind of inflammatory crap by the Right incited incidents like shootings and bombings at abortion clinics, Olympic Park in Atlanta, and the Oklahoma Federal Building.

    I'm sorry, Mr. McCain. I'd like to say "thanks, but no thanks" to you and Mrs. Palin for the politics of fear and hate.
  • Hurrycane · 1 year ago
    Apparently talk radio played a big role in inflaming the genocide in Rwanda...

    I support Freedom of Speech like any other American, but this is still scary shit.
  • mmedefarge · 1 year ago
    Palin's security detail should have zeroed in on the guy who shouted. Threatening a presidential candidate is too serious to be done with impunity.
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    Absolutely, they should have apprehended him and taken him into custody.
  • tommytoonz · 1 year ago
    Somebody in the town hall debate tomorrow night needs to ask McCain if he, his VP choice or his supporters believe Obama is a terrorist sympathizer. Lets get him, publicly, to take a stand for this kind of hate or against it. This shit sickens me and I'm so fucking tired of hearing it from the right, almost exclusively from the right.
  • brb915 · 1 year ago
    Oh Hells yeah I agree x 10--------------if he's going to condone this Dumpster Fire, he needsto grow a pair and OWN IT FROM HIS OWN DISHONORABLE< UNPATRIOTIC MOUTH
  • jimfromthefoothills · 1 year ago
    this needs to be taken seriously. John, what are you doing? What can we do? This is a threat to a screaming out of control audience. how do you think lynch mobs got their momentun?
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    hey don't be smearing the lynch's
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    Bush/McCain economics....

    "LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- A man distraught because he could not find work shot and killed his mother-in-law, his wife and three sons and then killed himself inside a home in an upscale San Fernando Valley neighborhood, police said."
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/06/california....
  • Hurrycane · 1 year ago
    It's the criminal's fault that he and his family are dead, not Bush's, and not McCain's. There are plenty of unemployed people out there who, despite hard times, are not killing their families. And murders like these have occurred in OK economic times as well.
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    Yeah, like the 90 year old woman who shot herself because she was being evicted from her home.
    While I agree the man was unhinged, the economy pushes these fragile minds over the edge.
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 1 year ago
    nice to see that pollster.com has finally moved MN, FL and CO to "weak dem" category. obama electoral total is now 296.
  • MNUSA · 1 year ago
    Especially since the latest poll shows Obama ahead by 18 points in Minnesota. How far ahead does he have to be to change to a "strong dem?"
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    Whatever the polls, and certainly the ELECTORAL one is the main one to watch state-by-state.

    BUT we must fight as if we are behind right up until the end.
  • MNUSA · 1 year ago
    The Repubs can't win on issues. They must either cheat to win or stir up the worst in people. Obviously McCain and Palin aren't mavericks after all, but are cut out of the same cloth as the other Repubs.
  • reflux1000 · 1 year ago
    Palin allowed the Assassination Card to be Played,did she stop her speech and demand the Secreat Service to arrest that man? NO SHE DIDN'T and bty that inaction she OK'ed Assassination of Presidential Candidates.
  • reflux1000 · 1 year ago
    Oh I'm so pissed abut this I forgot to preview and spellcheck "Secret Service" not "Secreat Service"and "by" not "bty" sorry 'bout that.
  • jimfromthefoothills · 1 year ago
    My dad's generation lost Dr. King and the Kennedy brothers to this fucking bullshit.

    NOT THIS TIME! I would take part in a 1 day work stoppage.
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    McCrazyCain and Sarah are both LIARS.
    Time to fight these 2 Bozo Liars and join the Pinnochio Posse!

    http://pinocchiopolitics.org/

    "Folks all over the country who are fed up with McCain's lies are putting on Pinocchio noses and showing up at McCain/Palin events."
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    it is sickening to see how much Sarah Palin enjoys her pitbull assignment. she is nothing but ignorant white trash. blech.
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    OK, I've been away from the computer today and now I read this? WTF?

    Sarah Pailin is a dangerous bitch...I hope this has all been reported to the Secret Service...
  • WordSmith · 1 year ago
    Goddamned straight the Secret Service better get involved. What the fuxk!? All hell would be breaking loose if someone at the Obama 'pep rallies' said such a thing.
  • janiceinthemountains · 1 year ago
    Hopefully tomorrow someone will throw some questions about this to McCain in the town hall. The repugs' only way to win this is to get totally nasty- they are such losers! Hopefully we have enough Dems/Independents/reasonable others to win!
  • Ivee · 1 year ago
    I agree that this is frightening. Americablog is one of the sites I turn to when things otherwise seem like Alice through the Looking Glass. It's my first comment here.

    At some point, most Americans need to wake up and realize that a campaign that even subliminally suggests that the assassination of one's opponent is a viable election strategy is simply madness.

    Most Americans do. The polls show that. The tightly vetted party kool-aid drinkers that comprise McCain/Palin's audience is something else. Something beyond the reach of demographics.

    Something kind of sick. Not being such a God person, I have still prayed to whatever forces are out there that Obama will be safe to run his campaign without risk of being murdered for being who he is. The fact that these people seem to think that suggesting this, no matter how subtly, to their supporters, is insane. We cannot allow these people into the White House, and I believe (in part based on those wonderful poll numbers -- red to blue -- gotta love it!) that they will not. In the meantime, send some good thoughts to Senator Obama and his family.

    These jerks and their inflaming rhetoric -- imagine how Michelle Obama must feel tonight. We can do this. Yes we can.
  • Polly_Tics · 1 year ago
    Welcome Ivee, it's always good to finally meet another reader turned poster! Post away, we are (usually) a friendly group and always are happy to hear from another in the choir.
  • Ivee · 1 year ago
    Thanks. It's good to talk with people all over our country, to find out what we think and feel and hope. This is a great blogspot, and one I've been lurking on for quite some time. I only hope that the MSM will start running some articles and editorials about how "politically incorrect" it is to subliminally suggest to one's supporters that silently condoning violence against one's oppositions is even remotely appropriate.
  • gallery · 1 year ago
    Hi Ivee,
    Thanks for the "virtual hug" last night. I yielded to the wine, again, and had to spend the rest of the night watching comedy on the boob tube to lift my spirits.
    On to the debates tonight.
    P.S. welcome to the conversation that our fine host provides.
  • Lyrebird · 1 year ago
    Ditto to Polly_Tics' comment, and to your own -- I'm definitely sending out some prayers to the Obama family.

    Note how classy (as in NOT!) the McCain/Palin campaign is being, what with Biden genuinely suspending his own campaigning for a few days due to a death in the family.

    The million- and billionaires (latter for the McCains) calling Obama is an elitist was unfounded and ridiculous. But this is wrong and dangerous. Gack.
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    Yes, welcome to posting. As Polly_Tics said, we have a great group, occasionally a troll or two, but it's nothing we can't handle, lol.

    Thank you for your good thoughts, I've done the same. This is a crazy time we are living in, but hopefully we are embarking on a new road, a good one, out of the darkness, here in about 29 days!
  • WordSmith · 1 year ago
    I would've returned earlier, but someone stole my name. "What's in yer wallet?"
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    It appears that the press is being kept from mingling with their supporters at these "events"... which could lend credence to the thought that the folks agitating to "Kill him" are hired goons trying to fire up the loons....
  • Polly_Tics · 1 year ago
    Even knowing all I do about how LOW both McCain and Palin will go to get their ends, I have to say that I'm somewhat shocked at hearing this disgusting nonsense!

    I hope the MSM picks this up tomorrow, because it is such crap like THIS that needs to force the media to slap them down hard and fast. Fostering lies and hate is bad enough, but encouraging assassination is more than any of us should ever tolerate!
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    Olbermann's special comment tonight on Palin....it's a good one
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnSXGTFQ0Ak
  • Polly_Tics · 1 year ago
    Yeah, I saw it and it was really good, but I just wish he would deliver it with a bit less sarcasm in his voice. They are good and viable points, but when he speaks with such a tone, I think he weakens the gist of the thrust of the commentary.
  • Ivee · 1 year ago
    He reads better in print than he does on the air.
  • mikeinwaco · 1 year ago
    I agree with you. Olberman resorts to dramatics and sarcasm all too often; but, I also understand his outrage and disgust over right-wing excesses. It mirrors my own, but since I don't have his mass media platform with which to express it, I vicariously watch and listen to him speak for me with the same emotion that I feel.
  • Polly_Tics · 1 year ago
    You know, I adore Olbermann and simply love his Special Comments, but last night I found his snide tone to be too dismissive and actually annoying. I think it took away from the zingers he lobbed and made him appear a bit cheap. I really wish he would go back to the original tenor of Edward R Murrow instead of Mr. McSnotty McSnot-Pants.
  • DaveFromQueens · 1 year ago
    This definitely needs to be played up.

    Palin has gone off the deep end and is now citing the Hannity playbook word for word.

    We now have a golden opportunity to not only win the presidency by double digits but to pick up 10 Senate seats and 40 House seats.

    She must be condemned for this.
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    Palin has turned out to be a rabid pitbull. She has no qualms about shooting moose, and wolves from an airplane. She is trailer trash, in her speech, and in her mindless attacks on Obama. She has no class, so how can you expect her to do the right thing, when her mindless supporters show low intellect, and say harmful things? She has become a rabble rouser. She is being used by that girly man, McCain, as an attack dog (make that a female dog), and they are inciting violence, by not nipping dangerous remarks from lunatics.
  • TheAngryFag · 1 year ago
    In Sarah's defense though, the comment from the crowd might have been more than she could handle. I mean if a response is not written on an index card, she would not know how to handle it. Poor dear's head might explode.
  • mckathiki · 1 year ago
    I was 9 years old when President Kennedy was killed and the thing I remember most about that dark day was watching every adult I knew cry and their tears lasted for weeks. I was older when Martin Luther King was murdered and watched helplessly as his dream seemed destined to burn in the streets. But the day Bobby Kennedy was executed was the day my faith in my country's political system ended. Were their deaths engineered by some shadowy cabal of greedy, paranoid, powermongers? Some people have believed for years that they were, that evil shades hiding in darkness may have ordered the deaths of these men who brought hope to millions of ordinary citizens.

    Now, for the first time in decades I believe in a man who shines a light and dares me to hope and dream again. And the thing that scares me the most about McCain and Palin and their supporters is that their evil stands in broad daylight and shouts its filth against him. It will take all of our courage and resolve to face these smiling monsters down and take our country back. Do we have the strength and can we stand together? I pray with all my heart that "Yes, we can!"
  • joe17 · 1 year ago
    stand tall, we must speak out and not let them slime their way to this election...dream on but fight back.Yes we can!!
  • mckathiki · 1 year ago
    Thank you - it's getting to where I can't sleep at night worrying about the
    fate of my beloved country and the future of all our children and
    grandchildren. The members of my family who are Republicans aren't even
    voting this time, or so they say, because they are disgusted with having "to
    choose between two evils." It goes without saying that the first time I
    tried to talk with them about Obama was also the last time as I was shouted
    down for my pie in the sky, head in the clouds thinking. Our country
    wouldn't even exist and wouldn't have weathered so much if it weren't for
    dreamers who were willing to fight for the dream. I am happy to have found
    this place where it seems that hope still lives.
  • Ivee · 1 year ago
    Please keep dreaming. I can scarcely sleep nights either -- and haven't, really, in a couple of weeks. But what we have are hopes and dreams that I still think will be reality come election day.

    McCain and Palin's attacks are despicable. I still believe that our country is better than this.

    And we'll see on election day.

    Lighting candles!
  • dead63 · 1 year ago
    Sounds to me like McLame's got domestic problems of his own...

    Dropping the "C' bomb on his wife...not sure whic one...follow the link



    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/07/report... Domestic problems of his own ...
  • Kcunac · 1 year ago
    Until that candidate starts putting herself in contact with reporters, the MSM should stop covering her comments. Cover where she was, how many people turned out, all the facts of the appearance -- but don't cover the lines of the speech. Not until she she starts answering questions like any other candidate.
  • RIPWAMU · 1 year ago
    I am so disgusted by this. The Secret Service did not do their job - they should've found that man and took him in. After all, weren't protesters at the RNC pepper sprayed and arrested for much, much less?

    I wouldn't expect Ms. You Betcha to do anything since she is a right wing radical filth pot, but the Secret Service has a duty to protect all Presidential nominees. I also saw the look on McCain's face when a someone yelled out "terrorist". He seemed quite pleased. The conspiracy theorist in me almost might wonder if both these vile beings were not actually planted by the campaign. I have noticed that Boos or words come out of the crowds well ahead of McCain or Palins statements on Obama. Would be interesting to see if they have that applause-like directional signage for the audience.

    I certainly hope the Obama campaign (perhaps Michelle during her Larry King appearance on Wednesday) brings this up in the MSM. This can not be tolerated. But either way, we the intellectual public will bring it up on Nov 4th.
  • daingel · 1 year ago
    She also was making disparaging remarks about Biden while he and his family are in mourning in the death of a loved one.

    This woman is one cold fish and a fake.
  • evan_la · 1 year ago
    Whoa, there are so many kinds of wrong here and Palin is standing right in the middle of them - all glassy-eyed and fundamentally wondrous - leaving me aghast at her lack of conscience or sophistication. Simply aghast.
  • virginia27 · 1 year ago
    The Nomination of Sarah P.


    (a memorial for Robert W. Service 1874-1958, with apologies to “The Cremation of Sam McGee” http://www.potw.org/archive/potw22.html)



    There are strange things done in the midnight sun
    By Republicans seeking votes;
    The campaign trails have their secret tales --
    Indeed their own “Deep Throats.”
    The Northern Lights have seen queer sights,
    But the queerest they ever did see
    Was that night in the hall in old St. Paul:
    They opted for Sarah P.


    John McCain, of Vietnam fame, was handed his hat by the Bushes.
    His gang changed its game, became McSame -- and fought to save their tushes.
    Exxon John was shuffling on, his campaign was dull as Nebraska.
    For Hillary’s votes, they donned fur coats and off they flew to Alaska.

    The economy tanks, while old John banks -- on beer and big cuts in taxation.
    As the gas price soars, corporate whores are buying and selling the nation.
    Georgia’s got oil, attractive spoil; John’s guy knocks down hefty fee.
    They need oil that’s clean, know what I mean? Voilà: there she is, Sarah P!

    “We’ve got her!” they cried, “big win for our side -- a babe who hunts and fishes!”
    The right wing crew confirms it’s true, the gal of all their wishes.
    They shivered and shook, took one more quick look, and snuck her to Arizona.
    As Rove assays “It’s all ‘God, guns, and gays’! You’ve found the ideal persona!”

    John’s of an age. At his advanced stage he can’t remember his houses.
    The moola is Cindy’s, that pisses the Indies. Perhaps he’s forgotten his spouses!
    Up in Alaska no one’ll ask ya how many houses or just how few.
    Freezing weather? Palins huddle together in their snuggly exurban igloo.

    John McCain fiercely dreams he’s John Wayne -- he wants to bomb Iran.
    With Sarah Palin, John aint failin’ his crusade on Islamastan.
    “Shia and Sunni, they’re both kind of loony,” neither one can tell them apart.
    “We’ll kill ‘em all fast, with a nu-cu-lar blast -- plus elitists who think they’re so smart!”


    John used to say, in that bellicose way, “First priority: getting Al Qaida.
    We need a guy of experienced eye – or a beauty queen snowmobile rider.”
    Sarah P. on Iraq is not deep – but she never asked to be veep.
    It was McCain, war on his brain, making the choice in his sleep.

    Is there a scandal? One John can’t handle? You’ve heard of troopergate.
    Sarah loves sister Palin, so she’ll give her ex a flailin’. An independent state?
    “Let’s break away from the old USA, and its army of occupation.
    Oil drilling is fine, as long as it’s mine, to hell with your forty-eight nation!”

    What now GOP, grand oil oli-GOP-oly? Signs are that you’re ailin’.
    Swift boats are sunk, no thoughts are thunk, just a family soap with Palin!
    Asleep at the wheel, John’s lost his feel, the party sure is sinking.
    But Sarah’s young, with a crazy tongue, let’s hear it for unthinking!

    Her style: naughty librarian. Talk: libertarian. But are things what they seem?
    She’d ban some books, belies her looks, plays for the GOP team.
    Not a librarian, not libertarian, she’s a censoring barracuda.
    She knows Jesus will do as she pleases; shut up with your crap about Buddha!

    God’s will, Sarah knows, is to drill; she’s privy to His plan.
    At end of days the good Lord pays – or is that Taliban?
    “Pray away the gay” – her church says today. Alaska’s a “refuge state.”
    When Judgment comes, her raptured chums throng Nome’s pearly gate.

    “Country first”: it’s well rehearsed, at the post-disaster convention.
    She’ll be a heartbeat away from holding sway-- watch your hypertension.
    Creation’s in for guv Palin, and choice she’ll strictly ban.
    And get this Pentecostal threat: no sex ed in Alaskastan.

    There are strange things done in the midnight sun
    By Republicans seeking votes;
    The campaign trails have their secret tales --
    Indeed their own “Deep Throats.”
    The Northern Lights have seen queer sights,
    But the queerest they ever did see
    Was that night in the hall in old St.Paul:
    They opted for Sarah P.




    Gary Shapiro
  • chungkuo · 1 year ago
    Anyone know if this guy was actually picked up by the secret service? He directly threatened the life of a US presidential candidate, I'm pretty sure that's reason enough to at least slap him in a cell for some serious questioning. WTF is with the WaPo? They slap that in the story and then no followup about the guy that just suggested assassination of a US Senator???
  • mannapat · 1 year ago
    The MSM may not pursue this unless they get inundated with requests to do so. I was so outraged by what I saw on the news last night that I let all of the MSM know how I felt, and that I expected them to address it. (And answer my question, "What will the Secret Service do about this?") It's not too hard to do this. Go to FAIR's media contact list at http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=111 and simply send your short, but concerned email to as many of the news outlets as you want.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Here is how to make a difference. The American people need to call their local Secret Service office and tell them to put a stop to McCain - Palin inciting violence against Senator Obama:

    http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml

    The mainstream traditional media is going to do nothing but report it. It is the Secret Service's job to ensure these modern day Nazi brown shirts stop with the death threats. I'm also outraged at the obscenities being shouted at McCain - Palin rallies. Just goes to show ya what kind of "family values" those Republicans really hold, huh? They are the WORST of America. How dare they scream that kind of stuff so that our kids at home hear it through the teevee. It needs to stop, and the Secret Service needs to explain to McCain - Palin they can't incite their followers to violence against their opponent just because they are losing the election.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    I just took my own advice and called my local Secret Service office. I told them I was concerned because of the violent verbal outbursts Sarah Palin is causing at her "campaign rallies" when she claims Obama pals around with domestic terrorists. I urge others to do the same. I told him I hope they found the guy shouting, "Kill Him!" and interviewed him and others shouting death threats / obscenities.
  • lkellar55 · 1 year ago
    Thank you so much for taking action and inciting us all to do so in a sensible and proactive way. That's exactly what I needed and will follow suit. I like what you say but am curious about your 'cowboy neo k" tag. To my now-paranoid mind at first it had worrisome connotations. Thanks again, though.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Oh, for god's sake!

    My screenname stands for:

    COWBOY - NORTHEASTERN - OKLAHOMA

    COWBOYNEOK

    Horrors! I can't believe someone got "neo-k" out of my screenname. LOL.

    Trust me, I'm as progressive and democratic as they come. Hell, I was even a target of a hate group that was very much like the KKK for being an officer for the "United Methodist for Lesbian and Gay concerns." Feel better now?

    Here is an article about me, and being a gay submariner if you are still feeling paranoid about me:

    http://www.gayglobe.us/gay-sailor.html
  • lkellar55 · 1 year ago
    I apologize - I do - and again, thanks for your post.  You're an assett to the fight to maintain decency.  But you know how it is these days - the paranoia that comes from seeing what these frighteningly destructive and duplicitous people play out of their constituency under the guise of rescuing them... a person begins to feel a little jumpy! :-) Again, I beg your pardon!
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Hey, no problem! That hateful group who is supporting McCain is VERY scary. I'm not one of them.

    Totally, totally forgiven and understood!

    Peace out!
  • Milli · 1 year ago
    A question to republican voters. Has it ever occurred to you that your "leaders" are playing you? They tell you government is bad and should be virtually eliminated, and you just follow suit, helping to dismantle the greatest tool that the you and the regular "Joe Six Pack" guys COULD have at your disposal if you actually used it. Good government is necessary for the health of this country the same way good health insurance is necessary for the health of your family. Instead you just want to throw it all away because a bunch of self-serving, slime-ball liars have been telling you to. They're profiting by your acceptance to be dumbed down. McCain, Palin, Bush, Cheney, Rove - they don't give a crap about you. They just want you to vote for them so they can steal from you and I and everyone around us. You're being beaten up and robbed. How much of this are you going to take?
  • vintage · 1 year ago
    Palin is my governor. I am wholly disgusted by the mean spirited rhetoric that she has been spewing since she was tapped for the vice president candidacy. It adds nothing to the debate or discourse on how to move this country forward. These are hard times right now and we need something more than someone that is looking for more power and their 15 minutes of fame. She has enough to answer for right here in Alaska after her very short stint as our governor. Send her home voters and end this ugly travesty concealed as a campaign. BTW, I'm a fiscal and social moderate, registered non-partisan voter but enough is really enough.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    The McCain rally is getting really MEAN! I think the crowd is attacking someone who supports Obama. You should see how mean McCain's daughter, Meghan is looking at the protesters. Sarah Palin also is looking at them like, "Can't someone kill that guy over there?"

    They are REALLY scary people.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    That stupid Mika needs to go on "Morning Joe." I'm sick to death of her opportunistic ramblings trying to prop up that stupid pig, Joe Scarborough!
  • mikeinwaco · 1 year ago
    It may be that, in spite of the suffering of marginal income folks and damage to the economy, the most regrettable outcome of this financial crisis may be the inability of a Democratic administration, assuming it comes to pass, to overcome the huge debt and an extended recession . That monumental task will be required before a new president can begin to accomplish his goals. Bush and eight years of Republican rule have screwed up the federal government and the country so badly that Obama (I hope) will be spending all his time untangling the mess left for him instead of promoting health care reform and addressing other serious problems which went begging under Bush/Cheney. We had better hope that a filabuster-proof majority in the senate accompanies an Obama victory. Otherwise, an Obama administration will be marred by intractable Republican obstructionism. And while I'm wishing and hoping, wouldn't it be great if Pat Leahy took over as Senate majority leader and somone besides a tiresome party hack was to be elected as Speaker of the House.
  • smartygurl22 · 1 year ago
    Everyone has their threshold. I've just reached mine. Thanks to AmericaBlog for pointing me to this and this. Also a hat tip to TPM Election Central.

    John "Country Last" McCain and Sarah Palin held some truly hate filled rallies on Monday. Here's a montage from McCain's hatefest 2008

    During this rally, a McCain supporter answers the question posed by Senator Country Last, "Who is the real Barack Obama?" The unmistakable answer: terrorist!



    McCain says nothing.



    From The Washington Post and AmericaBlog on Palin's rally:

    "Now it turns out, one of his earliest supporters is a man named Bill Ayers," Palin said.


    "Boooo!" said the crowd.


    "And, according to the New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,'" she continued.
    "Boooo!" the crowd repeated.


    "Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.



    Palin went on to say that "Obama held one of the first meetings of his political career in Bill Ayers's living room, and they've worked together on various projects in Chicago."

    Palin says nothing.



    I understand why McCain and Palin are going negative. The economy is falling apart around us, and they have no solutions. They are losing in Colorado, Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Nevada and Virginia. Obama, despite McCain's repeated claims, understands what a surge is, because he's pulling one off right now.



    But the current political environment does not excuse remaining silent when a candidate for president is referred to as a "terrorist" in your presence. A desire to win does not excuse remaining silent during a threat on the life of a U.S. Senator at one of your rallies. There are no excuses for evil such as this. John McCain and Sarah Palin, the GOP and all who support them have lost all rights to legitimate argument. They are liars. They are wrong. They are evil. Yes, evil. They are one small step short of inciting violence at their rallies. They are letting physical threats go unchallenged.




    I was at Obama's rally at Independence Square in Philadelphia back in April. When he mentioned Hillary Clinton's name, the crowd booed, and he told them to stop. Barack Obama intervened when his supporters booed his opponent. He called for civility. Yet, when faced with supporters who label senators terrorists and call for their assassination, John McCain and Sarah Palin said nothing.

    This is how evil spreads, from domestic violence to genocide. People in a position to stop it choose to do nothing.

    John McCain is obsessed with his own honor. No one believes in the myth of the maverick as thoroughly as he does. He's called for civility in campaign tactics while lying about Obama's position on sex education. That's ok. It's politics. If he weren't a bit of a hypocrite, I would get suspicious. But the man who would make his name synonymous with honor stoked hatred in his rally today and let one of his senate colleagues be referred to as a terrorist.



    We know what America does to terrorists.

    And while Obama and William Ayers served on a board together, this is nothing like McCain's pro-terrorist history. He voted repeatedly to protect domestic terrorists who bomb abortion clinics. He counts as an "old friend" one G. Gordon Liddy, an ex-convict who served time for the Watergate break-in, plotted to kill journalists, firebomb a think tank and called for violent resistance against the U.S. government. While Obama and Ayers's relationship is minimal and old news, McCain was on Liddy's show this year during the campaign and has accepted $1,000 from him as recently as February. So who's the terrorist?

    Now to Sarah Palin.



    This simple-minded, overwhelmed, frightened, delusional nitwit thinks she's doing "big things" by going on "the attack." She presumes to challenge Obama at his level as if she had earned her position rather than having been selected by an old white man for the job. She is filled with pride and self-adoration. She is a fool.



    This weekend, she said Obama was "paling around with terrorists." (a lie debunked by CNN). The irony is almost crippling to my mental functions. This is from the woman whose church says terrorism vs. Israel is God's judgment. This is a woman who was so close to the radical, separatist Alaska Independence Party, that people thought she was a member. She spoke to their convention, and her husband was a seven-year member of this organization whose founder was killed in a "plastic explosives deal gone bad."

    Palin would know about "paling around with terrorists." She fornicates with one.

    A few weeks ago CPL posted a story which seemed plausible but couldn't be verified. It said Palin was a racist. While the specific truth of that story is still unsettled, the pattern is clear: this ticket is painting Obama as the "other" and someone to be feared. This campaign is counting on stoking prejudice and racism. The McCain-Palin campaign is grotesque and dangerous. They are picking up where Hillary left off, but have gone much, much farther. They are presiding over hate rallies where people feel free to yell out murderous threats, and the candidates smile it off and keep going, essentially endorsing such mob mentality.



    I want to know who still supports this ticket. I want to know because if anything should happen to Barack Obama. If he so much as slips on the jetway or stubs his toe playing basketball, I'm holding John McCain and Sarah Palin responsible, and I'm holding those who vote for them responsible for doing nothing to stop an atmosphere of violence. Enough is enough.

    Those of you who have retained your soul and your senses, I ask you do to the following in response to this insane and hate-filled campaign.



    Make sure you are registered to vote. Go to voteforchange.com
    Volunteer. The campaign built on hope, rather than hate, needs election poll workers in key states like Virginia and Pennsylvania (big up Voter Suppression Wiki!). We need phone calls from home. Donate money.


    Spread the word about McCain and Palin's dangerous beliefs and outlandish hypocrisies. Send these to your undecided or right-leaning friends in swing states.
    Pray, meditate or otherwise send positive vibes to protect Obama and our country from these forces of darkness masquerading as legitimate political candidates.


    Don't be one of those people that recognizes wrong and evil and does nothing to stop it. We are all responsible for creating the world we want to see. Let's go about doing that.


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  • Name · 2 months ago
    This woman needs to disappear.