DISQUS

AMERICAblog: LA TImes: "What's worse, Obama's apparent gaffe or the RNC pouncing on a Holocaust-related historical mistake for political advantage?"

  • jr · 1 year ago
    “‘And they the hunters should hunt them,’ that will be the Jews. ‘From every mountain and from every hill and from out of the holes of the rocks.’ If that doesn’t describe what Hitler did in the holocaust you can’t see that.”-John Hagee
  • Zorba · 1 year ago
    And how many gaffes has McCain made? Never mind. Good for the LA Times.
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    Obama's "horrendous" "gaffe" is SO MUCH worse than insanely believing that Hitler was sent by God to drive the Jews to Israel! Or lying about bravely bringing radiant joy and love to the war-torn Bosnians under sniper fire! How can he possibly secure the nomination, much less the Presidency!? How can he win over the Jewish voters, who already think he's a secret Muslim who hates Israel and loves Louis Farrakhan? It should, must, can only be a Clinton vs. McCain election!!!
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    Obama mixed up the name of a concentration camp with another death camp. So what? I am sure survivors can see through the GOP's fake outrage du jour. The media is ridiculous if this non-story is picked up.
  • heathwood · 1 year ago
    The RNC and the GOP can only play the 'gotcha' game. They have no real credibility. As for McCain:

    http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/27/mcsame...
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    What if this wasn't a gaffe at all?

    What if it was a styrofoam bone tossed to a snarling dog?

    UPDATE:
    What if Obama is smarter than even we think he is?
  • okojo · 1 year ago
    It is better to discuss this subject without histrionics, and the Republicans are better off having a historian or someone who is Holocaust Studies historian to give a response than PR Hack with the RNC. Obama made a mistake, but his intent was fine, stating his uncle did actually liberate a concentration camp. It is not like having the Vice President of the US go to Auschwitz for a memorial service dressed up as he was going ice fishing, that is disrespect...

    I just when the subject gets into the Holocaust, it is better for both sides to be on the side of caution, and tried to speak as clearly and understated as possible. It is more as a deference to a pretty grave subject matter about how a modern technological state can use its technology for a very evil goal.
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    Wow!

    Scott McClellan goes nuclear on Bush, blames the media
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/27/191215/...

  • stevie314159 · 1 year ago
    I'd say Lucy (Obama) held out the football again, and Charlie Brown (RNC) fell for the old trick!

    PLEASE PLEASE, RNC, Put on TV ads that say "Obama's relatives liberated Buchenwald, not Auschwitz". I'm begging.
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    *big smile*

    Now that's what I'm talkin' 'bout.
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Elicitation
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    OT;

    Scott McLellan's new book apparently says the media were wimps and the country was sold the war through propaganda.

    Up soon on Olbermann's show.

    (BTW: he also had a good piece of Phil Graham's role in the Mortgage Crisis--Phil Graham is Mccain's economic advisor, a former senator, and likely McCain cabinet officer.)
  • vwcat · 1 year ago
    Seeing how none of the dim bulbs in the republican party have any idea of what it was like to live during that time under the Nazi regime, I will take Obama.
    My mother is from France and as a girl grew up under Nazi rule. My grandfather was a police captain who was with the resistance. My mom told me stories about that time and it was not pretty.
    While the gop romanticizes this era and fantasizes about WWII, people who actually lived do not.
  • AngelaChanning · 1 year ago
    For all of the reasons, John listed, I am not even sure it counts as a gaffe. It sounds like a reasonable mistake since he was speaking of a relative that is a generation or two ahead of him.
  • devis1 · 1 year ago
    Today Hannity was complainig that the liberal media went after McCain for his Shia-Sunni mistake but predicts they won't touch this...
  • okojo · 1 year ago
    Not knowing the differences between Shia and Sunni, or how tribal allegiance plays a big part in Iraq, can cost billions and billions of dollars in bad policy decisions. Ditto in differences between Arab and Iranian, no matter if they are both followers of Shia Islam. One reason why The US is such a quagmire in Iraq in the first place... Getting the name of the concentration camp wrong that a relative helped liberate, isn't costing the US taxpayers billions. McCain isn't the only Republican acting like an ignorant bozo, when it comes to knowing the subtleties of Iraq can save many future headaches whoever is in charge at the Oval Office...
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    The leaders of the Republican party are mostly locker room towel snappers.
  • Mike_G · 1 year ago
    Seeing how none of the dim bulbs in the republican party have any idea of what it was like to live during that time under the Nazi regime, I will take Obama.

    Given their authoritarianism, militarism, obedience culture and cronyism, I imagine today's Repukes would mostly have been collaborators under the Nazis, or Tories in Revoultionary War America, sucking up to the strongest power of the day for personal advantage.

    Or compare Obama's misstatement to St Reagan telling Menachem Begin that he filmed the liberation of death camps in 1945, when in actuality he never left Hollywood.
  • kevinbgoode · 1 year ago
    The GOP should be careful. . .what if someone discovers that Prescott Bush financed the construction of one of these camps?
  • scytherius · 1 year ago
    All I know is that every Jew I spoke to about this (have a lot of Jewish friends as I am ehre in Los Angeles) has been screaming about the RNC today because of this. Some were on the fence about McCain and Obama. not anymore as it's now Obama all the way for them. They are repulsed (as they should be). And I was a little worried about the Jewish vote for Obama . . . Thanks RNC!!!

    You make em stupid . . . we make em Republican stupid.
  • KeithH30 · 1 year ago
    What is so galling to me is the right getting hung up on one word in Obama's comment (Auschwicz vs. Buchenwald) but they are so willing to forgive the outrageous lies of George Bush in the lengthy list of reasons for the Iraq war.
  • bluestockton · 1 year ago
    "It is not like having the Vice President of the US go to Auschwitz for a memorial service dressed up as he was going ice fishing, that is disrespect..."

    If this particular Vice President had been alive and of draft age in WWII, would he have had "other priorities" than liberating the death camps?
  • DCinDC · 1 year ago
    Obama family history is like a true American story. Obama is both black and white. He represents both the past and now the future. The more I learn about Obama the more proud I become to be an American.