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AMERICAblog: Lieberman made Harry Reid cry so he gets to keep his committee chair, reportedly

  • Patriot · 1 year ago
    Do anythin' to meh... jus pleez don throw meh in dat briar patch! Hehehe! Now that is a clever analogy and extremely funny, too. Thank you for the chuckle.

    Unfortunately, I wish the Reid et al would have just called his bluff and let him wallow in the tar he got himself stuck in. It would have been far more entertaining to watch the slow emasculation. Hopefully Conn. has had enough of him.
  • Butch1 · 1 year ago
    Yes, don't expect the spineless democratic congress to do anything even approaching heroic measures.
  • ezpz · 1 year ago
    I'm confused. Isn't Joe technically an *I*?

    And as such, doesn't he vote his heart or conscience (of which he seems to have neither)?

    He'll vote with Republicans regardless.

    He's not to be trusted. What short memories they have - have they forgotten his switcharoo from D to I when he was losing in the primaries?

    Spinelessness seems to be a chronic and recurrent condition of the Democrats, which is why I myself may soon change to *I*.
  • ObamaLover · 1 year ago
    This is what really annoys me about Joe Lieberman he promised the Conn. voters he would caucus with the Dems. The guy is so slimy and two faced. Maybe this was the best thing to do for now, but hopefully in 2 years Dems go well over 60 votes and can kick Lieberman to the curb. Which is very likely since 19 repuke seats will be up.
  • ObamaLover · 1 year ago
    as they say revenge is a dish best served cold
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    If it doesn't happen now, it will never happen.
  • Butch1 · 1 year ago
    What bothers me is that the democratic answer for them continuing to do nothing is just what you said. " . . .hopefully in 2years Dems go well over 60 votes. . ." We always hope the democrats will find their spine and do something, anything, but opine and wring their hands waiting for that magical 60 number to do anything. If they didn't get it this time, they will never get it. They are a majority and it is about time they start acting like one. Let the republicans filibuster, this country will get sick of it. But, no, we play too nicely and try and cross the isle to kow-tow to them no matter if we are in charge or not.Play nice is not in my vocabulary anymore! I know, I have had it with this hand wringing by Congress. They should have thrown his ass out of their caucus a long time ago.
  • scytherius · 1 year ago
    GOD can we replace Reid.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    These people aren't adults: They're little kids and they've never dealt with life in the real world.

    Can you imagine somebody at your place of business doing work for the competitor and getting to keep his job?

    I'm really starting to hate ALL senators.
  • caphillprof · 1 year ago
    a party in need of a backbone
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    By allowing Lieberman to keep his chairmanship, the Democrats are also ensuring he win his election in Conn.
    This stinks; it just stinks.
  • ObamaLover · 1 year ago
    Not really he has 35% approval ratings. I would be very surprised if he beats the Dem challenger.
  • lucky hussein · 1 year ago
    he will get re-elected if he 'somewhat' goes along with obama. he would have NO chance as a repub.
  • Butch1 · 1 year ago
    Traitor Joe has been down this path before and knows who his friends are. They will continue to vote him in whether the democrats like it or not. He has the support of the republicans and they will not forget his speech at their RNC or him stumping around with McCain whilst he bad mouthed Obama..
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    No doubt Obama, Reid and the rest will campaign for him in 2010. I thought this was he peoples government not these weak kneed, putzes.
  • rjrolsen · 1 year ago
    I'm not sure I buy this story. There was no new information in this post.
    We have heard all these things before, why did MSNBC write this post? They were not offering any concrete information, or new information.
  • evie · 1 year ago
    CNN reported the same thing. Word on the Hill is that there are not the votes to remove him.
  • DorothyGale · 1 year ago
    If Reid can't stand up to terrorist threats from Lieberman, how can we expect him to stand up for America?
  • Topher · 1 year ago
    I don't think we can.....
  • Butch1 · 1 year ago
    Amen!
  • Coming Undone · 1 year ago
    The DNC can lose my name, email address and phone number if Lieberman gets to stay and keep his chairmanship. I will not donate another dime if the Democrats in the Senate allow this to happen.

    Lieberman pisses all over Harry Reid and Reid just thanks him for a nice golden shower. So what does Lieberman really have to do to upset the Democrats, key their cars, egg their houses, bitch slap Dodd.
  • ObamaLover · 1 year ago
    Wait at least until after the mid-term election before you go crazy. Patience is a virtue.
  • evie · 1 year ago
    Bitterly disappointing. Removing him as chair was an easy, easy move. The easiest vote they've had. What will happen when they have a tough vote.

    I'd like someone to really explain why he gets to keep this position when there are other loyal Dems next in line who didn't give a speech at the Republican convention and didn't campaign Republicans in 2008.
  • Butch1 · 1 year ago
    Because those in charge, e.g. Reid and Pelosi are spineless leaders and no one has the spine or cojones to make them resign.
  • ChrisM70 · 1 year ago
    Democrats:

    Spineless
    Cowardly
    Ineffective

    I was hoping that when Obama was elected, the Dems might become strong and confident like the Harlem Globetrotters. Instead, they continue to be the Washington Generals.

    Even the Republicans have to be shocked sometimes at just how weak and timid the Democrats are even when they are in power.
  • eagleye · 1 year ago
    Not sure if that news report is true, but if indeed Lieberman threatened to join the Republicans if he didn't get to keep his committee chair, then that is reason enough to kick has ass out. What kind of petulant and immature Senator would behave like that? I'm starting to think that Lieberman is only half the problem here-- the other half is Harry Reid.
  • Butch1 · 1 year ago
    Yes and the rest of the spineless democrats who continue to support anything Reid says.
  • bamjaya · 1 year ago
    John, I think you will really take the lead in the liberal blogosphere if you point out the lack of clothes on the emperor and change the headline to something like:

    Obama Betrays Own Weakness Before Inauguration: Lieberman Beats Him Up.
  • red_dwarf · 1 year ago
    Strike one for Obama. Run Dems Run - you spineless cowards - courage? What a joke.

    Hey Obama, who's your ______? No need to answer, we already know.
  • lucky hussein · 1 year ago
    yeah! beat drudge to it... unfortunately.
  • lucky hussein · 1 year ago
    this is a disaster. the centrist, secret-balloting, neo-liberal chicken wing is coming home to roost.. all puns intended.
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 1 year ago
    It's arguable that Obama reaching out to the McClurkinites during the primary may have cost us our marriage rights in CA, and his reaching out to Lieberman in the 06 CT senate campaign may have cost Franken a senate seat in 08. I doubt if either one of those judgments was necessary to get himself elected. I totally admire Obama for his steady focus on issues over politics. But that's not going to work forever. There will be obstacles to progress that are much stronger than McCain/Palin. I'm anxious to see if he has anything else in his skillset.
  • Butch1 · 1 year ago
    There are times when one has to make the decision that "the cancerous lesion" on the democratic party needs to be removed for the betterment of the body.
    Traitor Joe = lesion.
  • democrattotheend · 1 year ago
    What the hell does the 2006 Senate race in Connecticut have to do with Franken winning or losing in 2008?
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 1 year ago
    Lieberman begged Obama to come to CT in 06 to endorse him over the real Democrat Ned Lamont. Obama complied and Lieberman won. 2 years later, Liebermann campaigned for Republican Norm Coleman in MN hoping to defeat Democrat Franken. The rest is -- or will be -- history.
  • Lolis · 1 year ago
    I wrote a ton of the Senators and told the DSCC I would never give them a dime if they didn't strip Lieberman. We'll see what the actual vote is.
  • brb915 · 1 year ago
    I did the same.................but I have a feeling Obama will march Lie' s ass into his Oval Office and he'll let asswart know that every move he does or does not make will be watched, ,measured, and kept in a "yourassismine" ledger...............I know I know Obama is above this you say.................I say he is the top of the food chain now and he has my permission and blessing to do so.
  • anarchy · 1 year ago
    Rahm Emanuel is REALLY good at stuff
    just like this.

    Traitor Joe's days are numbered, you'll see.
  • Butch1 · 1 year ago
    Well this was predicable. I expect the democratic congress to play the role they have been playing for the past eight years, whether they are a majority or not. If "no change" is change, then I am pretty much finished with democratic/republican politics. Time to start looking for some new parties that will actually do what they say. I will support Obama until he has finished office, but the Congress is going to have to earn their position before they get any respect from me.
  • ninepatch · 1 year ago
    This is the change and this is the hope? What schlumps--once again. It is getting tiresome and II am seriously beginning to lose faith in the Obama man with all his rallies and speechifying. Looks to me there is no change here at all. Hillary and Bill as SOS? Lieberman allowed to stay as the chair of the HS committee. For what.

    What a sc hlump I have been again. This is no dam change. How clear can it have been with Lieberman? Apparently clear as mud to the Dem;leadership and here we are. Impotent. Ranting on the internets with NO power at all. Those who have the millions of bucks, pushing us around, again. The cocktail circuit pushing us around again. Same as the old stuff. Rhetoric and speeches that mean nothing. Liber,man needs to be kicked out on his fat ass for what he has done. This change meme was a fraud pulled over the eyes of the electorate===AGAIN.
  • Older_Wiser · 1 year ago
    This is totally unacceptable.

    This is not the Democratic Party I've known most of my life. I guess for a lot of people, having money does steal your principles and clouds your judgment.I've never really had the money to contribute to politicians, except a couple of rare times, and I don't intend to change my stripes.
  • High Crimes & Misdemeanors · 1 year ago
    WTF do people not understand about:

    PROPOSITION 2008: NO TO HARRYYY RIED

    This man has single handedly kowtowed and whimpered to the REPUKES and those who support them.

    We need to make some mass phone calls tomorrow.

    Any thoughts?
  • smallhandff · 1 year ago
    So when does the Recall Lieberman campaign start?
  • henrythefifth · 1 year ago
    I am so disgusted with the Joe Lieberman It's All About Joe Lieberman Show.

    I am hoping, but not too hopeful, that the secret ballot vote on him will actually work in our favor...that the wussy Senate Dems will oust him ONLY b/c they do not have to take a public position on it.
  • Butch1 · 1 year ago
    You're assuming they have grown spines since after the elections. I see the "same ole, same ole" happening time and time again. There will be no change until the leadership of our party has been changed.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    I'm actually thinking the opposite. Democratic Senators are going to use the cover of the secret ballot to give their good buddy "another chance." If they had to publically disclose their vote then we'd have a chance of punishing him.
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    Lieberman as chair of Homeland Security, Hillary as SoS.

    Y'know, the parade hasn't even started and I am about to decide that I'll just sit at my window and casually watch it. I won't even trouble myself to go down to street level to see it pass by.

    "Barack Obama's incoming administration is unlikely to bring criminal charges against government officials who authorized or engaged in harsh interrogations of suspected terrorists during the George W. Bush presidency. Obama, who has criticized the use of torture, is being urged by some constitutional scholars and human rights groups to investigate possible war crimes by the Bush administration.

    Two Obama advisers said there's little—if any—chance that the incoming president's Justice Department will go after anyone involved in authorizing or carrying out interrogations that provoked worldwide outrage."

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=2008-11...

    fuck it all
  • EdNSted · 1 year ago
    I believe it will help to get through the next 4 years if you lower your expectations considerably. Despite the campaign rhetoric and the starry eyed supporters, Obama was never the candidate of change. The real problem was, neither was McCain. That was my argument all along and why I came very, very close to not voting. In the end, I decided to vote Obama because McCain-Palin was more dangerous. But either way, it's heads they win, tails you lose. It helps if you've spent a lot of time being the mark in games of 3-card monte. If you don't expect much from this administration then any small bone they do toss you will be appreciated.

    Remember Obama 14:2 - Under my Father's bus are many wheels: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 1 year ago
    obama's seduction of joe lieberman (if that's what this is) reminds me of his seduction of black evangelicals a few months back. he may not be like-minded but he sees an opportunity to build up overwhelming capital. what's not particularly clear at this point is how he will spend the capital and what is guiding him. the netroots financed his access to the moderate middle class, who in turn entrusted him with the power to work on their problems. but the rhetoric that he invoked to make liberals starry-eyed was boilerplate democratic stuff from 1992 and before. we might have to settle for a return to the early clinton years. i suppose i can live with that, especially if you toss in some strong anti-racism tonic.
  • dad · 1 year ago
    i think we're going to need some more change.

    we are being beaten by our own Club.
  • TXfemmom · 1 year ago
    I have said repeatedly that Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi were both weak and ineffective and they need to be changed.
  • MNUSA · 1 year ago
    Lieberman is going to have to face reality eventually. He's not a Democrat any more - he lost his endorsement. He also wasn't elected as a Repub. He's a man without a party.
  • High Crimes & Misdemeanors · 1 year ago
    With all due respect MNUSA, we are already past this point in the debate about liberemannn - what we need to do is make a ton of calls tomorrow.

    CALL YOUR SENATOR TOMORROW!!!!

    CALL RIED AND TELL HIM HOW MUCH OF A CHUMP HE IS....
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Lieberman KNOWS he isn't a true Democrat anymore. In fact, he hasn't acted like a true Democrat since before he beat our Democratic nominee, Lamont, in the general election after having Republicans help elect him. He did want he wanted, risked it all to get a cushy job in the McCain administration and supposedly will not suffer any repercussions. The Democratic Party wants to know why we don't have party discipline? CASE IN POINT. The Democratic Party can't act surprised and upset when this happens again in the near future. The message from Reid and other Democratic Senators: There are just no consequences for being a traitor to our party.

    Maybe the message is what other insignificant parties have been trying to tell others for many years and that is we don't really have a Republican or Democratic party. We just have the "ruling elite class" and they just do what they want.
  • TXfemmom · 1 year ago
    I don't care if Obama was elected, he still has to answer to those that brung him, and those that brung him don't want Joe Lieberman back on that Chairmanship. He would be privvy to too much really important information and the man cannot be trusted with it.

    As for joining the Republicans, don't let the door hit you in the butt when you leave the place, Joe.
  • democrattotheend · 1 year ago
    As one of the ones that "brung him", there are far more important things that I want him to do than get rid of Joe Lieberman, and I am glad that he recognizes that he might need Lieberman's help in the Senate on some of them. I wish other Obama supporters would not get so caught up with the desire for revenge on Lieberman. Personally, I would rather see Obama use his political capital for things that actually effect people's lives. If we had won 3 more Senate seats it would be a different story, but we didn't, and we've got to work with what we've got. I'd rather get things done than get revenge, and I am glad Obama shares my view.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    I guess every time Lieberman gets his knickers in a bunch, he is going to threaten to leave the caucus? Wow, lets keep that traitorous troll in the Democratic caucus so we get to constantly suck up to him whenever he decides to play his Republican hardball! (SNARK!)
  • AnthonyLook · 1 year ago
    This is the beginning of this newly elected Congress; same old caving in to the GOP crap that Reid and Pelosi have been giving us for two years. Every Democrat I talk to is furious that Lieberman is even allowed to stay; the low approval polls on Congress are as a result of their lack of leadership and resolve and to think that the first major decision is one of capitulation. Just as Liebermans insult is not forgotten or forgiven; I hear many voters vowing to do what is necessary to work to vote out Reid, Dodd and others that come to light as allowing this yet another slap in the face of voters. THERE IS NO SUPPORT FOR THIS MAN WITH THE DEMOCRAT VOTING CONSTITUENCY.
    Cowards that they are it is going to be secret ballot, so that we might not retaliate against them; this is the internet age; we will find out and vote them out come their next voting cycle. Loss of sub committee positions is a JOKE, even the media is stating as much. Reid and Dodd are pathetic jokes. Bloggers will start a grass roots blog to begin the retirements of those we find that supported Lieberman. If Congressmen when asked to state how they voted refuse to answer; then they too will join the list. If Congressmen stand proud and state they voted against Lieberman then that will be rewarded. ENOUGH of this Democratic chicken cowards.
    This will not be forgotten nor forgiven.
  • anarchy · 1 year ago
    that's pretty much why all of the incumbents
    need to be voted out - every single one of
    'em HAS TO GO.

    Reid, Pelosi, all of the WDC crowd have
    GOT to be shown the door as soon as
    possible.

    they THINK they hold all the cards - but they
    ain't got shit. we're gonna call their bluff and
    take the pot, you'll see. IT CAN HAPPEN!

    let the Rethugs embrace Caribou Barbie,
    that's the best Christmas present we could
    ever hope for - and it'll be the gift that keeps
    on giving. :-)

    yeah, we're pretty fucked (thanks to #43 and
    his cadre of criminals and enablers) but we're
    still not down for the count.
  • bacalove · 1 year ago
    I believe Lieberman, if McCain had asked him, would have been John McCain's GOP running mate. The Democratic Senators owe him nothing. They should have faith that the new bills and legislations they bring to the floor will find passage without that turncoat.
  • justmy2cents · 1 year ago
    Here we are, a new congress on the horizon and a new president-elect, who both promise non-partisan politics, and Lieberman is even a story. If they truly did not care about partisan politics then Lieberman's voting record and personal political views would not matter to the upcoming congress.

    Alas, they are giving us, again, just words. My belief is that we will see politics as usual, from congress and president-elect Obama. So far, they have not even begun to 'serve' our country, yet nothing has changed to-date. It's still the same old issues.

    It is sad that we don't have more like Lieberman in congress; we need more like him. I'd cast a vote for him for president, and I've been a registered republican most of my voting life. It is refreshing to see Lieberman actually vote the interests of his constituents and his heart, whether it be a republican or democratic issue. That is the kind of person I am seeking to serve our country at all levels.