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I have the feeling that health care reform will have a long and twisting path. Obama is going to work very hard to preserve those deals with insurance companies.
It will backfire, a PO will be in the final bill, and the administration will be forced to consider the last, most desperate step: a presidential veto.
Will they do it? Does Obama think his charm is enough to placate us if he single-handedly destroys a bill that the base poured so much effort and money into getting? Maybe he and his advisers are that clueless. Maybe getting the Nobel Prize has given him an inflated estimation of his ability. I guess we'll just have to see.
To be honest, the idea of him vetoing a progressive bill fills me with a perverse thrill, because at least then the kool-aiders will be cornered without even the most absurd spin left to defend their messiah.
Once upon a time there was a serpent who was badly injured in a fight with another animal. It managed to slither away to safety but would have surely died if a benevolent man had not seen it suffering by the side of the road. The goodly man carefully wrapped the snake up and took it to his house, where he bestowed the kindest and gentlest care on the snake until it was healed and could return to the wild. Just as the man was releasing the serpent back into the grass, the ungrateful snake turned and bit him on the hand.
"What did you do that for?" cried the man, who knew that the bite of this particular snake was usually fatal. "Didn't I take care of you when no one else would?"
The snake shrugged (no small feat for a snake!) and replied to the benevolent--and now doomed-- man, "What did you expect? You knew I was a snake when you picked me up."
Obama may very well have the power to do both but does he have the balls.
AT this point, nothing would really surprise me, except Obama doing the right thing. That would actually be a shock. A good shock, but a shock nonetheless.
Flu or not, always trust your gut. Always.
I hope you're well on the mend. Sounds like you are since you're out and about. Do you think it was H1N1?
Hope not, and again, keep getting better and stronger.
http://www.americablog.com/2009/10/daou-dont-bo...
let em filibuster~
3) Obama owes the American people for rallying behind Lieberman
(Ok I'm done, thank you for putting up with me :)
Please let this be the last time someone references a politician and board games...
The real purpose of the Democratic Party is to absorb and defuse all progressive energy in the American body politic. This they do very well. Remember Nancy Pelosi's "time lines" in Iraq? Me too.
What lobby or corporation do you think he will work for after he loses the next election?
That's when we will know for sure where Obama stands.
(Most do already, but the bobs and the chess not checkers crowd might finally see with their own eyes what has been in front of them all along.)
About 28% of the electorate believed, all the way through his term, that Bush could do no wrong and that he was a great leader, no matter how much evidence to the contrary. And those people still believe it.
Obama has a similar core of blind followers--smaller than Bush's, to be sure, but significant. To them, whatever Obama does is right. In the remote but possible event that he vetoes the bill to kill the PO, that will just be more 11-dimensional chess.
It's delusional thinking, not rational. No amount of evidence or argument will dent it.
I was just hoping that the blind followers might see better without their rose colored lenses.
Also, I edited after you quoted - I took out the word 'not'
s/b "...might finally see..."
(should be my worst problem, lol.)
"Lieberman did say he's "strongly inclined" to vote to proceed to the debate, but that he'll ultimately vote to block a floor vote on the bill if it isn't changed first."
Does this mean he'd vote with the dems for cloture, but against the bill? Explanation? Anybody?
Also: Ask them to remove the Eshoo amendment in the House bill that would ban brand name biologics from ever being available as generics. It means sick people who can't afford brand-name biologics would never be able to get them as generics.
Please CALL your Representative today at (202) 224-3121! And if you can, please write letters to the editor starting today about the Eshoo amendment, (http://my.barackobama.com/page/speakout/
HealthCareLetter) and why it MUST be removed from the final conference bill. And in the letter, please ask your Representative and Senator to remove this provision from the bill.
More info on these actions: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/27/797623/-We-Havent-Won-Yet-On-The-Public-Option!
"JOE THE BUMMER"
LMAO!! (if it wasn't so pathetic)
Kiss your chair goodbye. And from now on you can caucus with the pigeons out back. Shitting all over the place is pretty much all you do anymore anyway.
Just saying. He's hated by the netroots, it will surely draw fire away from Obama, and it's not as if unHoly Joe has another shot to keep his seat. What does he have to lose? This may even be payback for the swag he got from Obama despite campaigning with the enemy. IOW, Obama calling in the debt.
I know, I know. Not likely, but if he kills the PO by demanding a trigger, I wouldn't rule it out. Just saying.
2. I said last year...08...that Liberman should not be allowed to caucus with the Democrats because of his support for Liberman.
3. I said that Obama was a fool to push Liberman on the Democrats after the election last year.
I was right about the asshole in 2000 , in 2008 and I am right now...toss the tosser. What does it take to get this ass out of the party.