Doesn't Antarctica need an Ambassador? Doesn't the Senate need a subcommittee on "Wastewater Treatment?"
BraydenWicker
· 1 year ago
It would be a great job for him since he wanted to count the disqualified military ballots in Florida.
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
Joe, Go Fuck Yourself.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
Does anyone have an inkling of what's going to happen? He's a traitor to the party and should not be retained. If he supported the Republican ticket and platform, that's where he should caucus, plain and simple.
Soaplady57
· 1 year ago
I have written Harry Reid three times from the site that was linked to this blog and another one. Do you think that he ever actually reads the emails we send him? I know that many of us have written telling him to GET RID OF LIEBERMAN but inspite of all our emails to him, do you actually think he will???? One can only HOPE!!
devlzadvocate
· 1 year ago
In answer to your questions: No and no, just relegate him to a democratic position of non-power (he can't be trusted in a position of power in the new Congress), unless he bolts.
TomsOld
· 1 year ago
The best I could do would be to offer him a way out the door.
triple7s
· 1 year ago
Have you ever seen a MORE self-serving fucker, with a worse sense of timing? This idiot just can't seem to EVER be in the right place at the right time. He must spend a lot of time just banging his head against his desk.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Traitor Joe should be offered NOTHING...and his current chair taken away.
There shouldn't be any ifs,ands, or buts about it.......
BroD
· 1 year ago
Well, it's not like the vets deserve serious consideration. I mean, Lieberman and his ilk (well, ok, he doesn't really *have" an ilk but you know what I mean) screwed them over when they were "troops" so it's not like they have any reason to expect decent treatment.
gaiilonfong
· 1 year ago
Dodd is going going WOBBLY on LIEberman...time to remind Dodd that LIEberman called Obama a terrorist sympathizer and if Dodd contnues to be wobbly time to get angry
They ALL will! They're so "collegial," so "measured in their response," so full of "comity" because it's the Senate. Not like those emotional, impulsive people in the House. . .
Mike_G
· 1 year ago
Joe the Plumber, janitor of the Senate building restrooms.
Or just tell him JoeFuckYourself.
The fact that they are offering him any consolation prize instead of tossing him to the wolves is disgraceful. This Senate clubbiness needs to be stomped flat now.
Police estimated that 12,500 boisterous marchers converged about 6 p.m. at Sunset and Santa Monica boulevards in Silver Lake near the site of the former Black Cat bar, which the city recently designated a historic-cultural monument for its '60s role as home of the local gay rights movement. … Other demonstrations, including one that attracted up to 10,000 people in San Diego, popped up across the state. … an early morning rally Saturday in the Morley Field area adjacent to Balboa Park. Police estimated the crowd at 8,000 to 10,000 with no reported arrests. …. and 2,000 rallying in Long Beach, leading to 15 arrests. … Additional demonstrations are planned for today for downtown Los Angeles, Lake Forest, Laguna Niguel, La Jolla, Oakland, Sacramento, San Jose and Visalia. Organizers of many of these plan to have protesters congregate at or march to Catholic churches and Mormon sites.
munjoyfan
· 1 year ago
I think it's time to organize a massive contact your Democratic senator campaign. Do not assume that those currently working in Washington have ANY clue about the resolve of the American people, and we cannot afford to wait till the next election cycle's poll numbers in their districts bend their smug, self-serving attitudes towards real change. Remember, none of what has happened over the past eight years could have happened without the collusion of the House and Senate. Including Reid.
Lieberman is a traitor, and he needs punishment. Failure to discipline sends the wrong signal to other fence sitting Democrats.
And we are going to need MAJOR doses of discipline over the next 18 months. Some programs are going to be cut and we need a show of courage and leadership back home by our Senators and Reps. The corporate elite just tied up $700 billion (for what? bonuses? dividends?) that should have gone to establish national health care. Very clever move. Because once established it will never go away--though we have it in the form of Medicare and all that is needed is to drop the age of eligibility, perhaps to 55 to take care of the people whose retirements were just creamed by Wall Street, perhaps using some of that $700 billion.
preznit_giv_me_turkee
· 1 year ago
But more importantly, why is Harry Reid offering Traitor Joe another committee chair? kill him with kindness, but kill him
acknight
· 1 year ago
Precisely. Perhaps it was a calculated wager, figuring that Joe would refuse, but that he could then be seen as having been the reasonable one in negotiations.
A way of swaying other senators, perhaps, or at least giving the appearance of being the more level-headed grown-up side of the table.
SINGING_TROLL
· 1 year ago
Oh for Christs sake.
Sure that's it. Harry is STRATERGIZING
High Crimes & Misdemeanors
· 1 year ago
Out of all the 13 posts on here, not a ONE on ousting harry-bend-like-a-reid.
OUTFUKING'RAGIOUS!!!!
teammarty
· 1 year ago
Becuase everyone here knows that neither Reid or Pelosi are in any danger of the firing they so deserve. If anything, their positions are strengthened by our new slightly right of center Pres-Elect. While Joe will be welcomed back by the Dems, anyone left of center (like Dingell who'll LOSE his chair to a centerist) will have to answer to Emanuel the Enforcer.
Oh, that's right, things are changing.
High Crimes & Misdemeanors
· 1 year ago
good points - it begs the question on how Obama will lead...do you really think Dingell will lose this chairmanship?
He's been in there longer then Emanuel, prolly when he was still shitting in his pants....
SINGING_TROLL
· 1 year ago
The devil is always in the details.
meet the new boss
anokie
· 1 year ago
I have not heard one story of how Lieberman's constituents feel about him becoming Republican....or have I missed one? I'm of the school that you lie in the bed you've made.....seeing that his reputation is in the crapper...you all can take it from there. :-)
1970cs
· 1 year ago
Here is what Lieberman's constituents think should be done in the Senate
Joe's probably got a lot to lose personally if someone else takes over his committee chair seat... wouldn't another new committee chair do a review of exactly where the committee is and what they've been doing for the past 8 years so they can get a sense of what needs to be done, especially since one of the primary things on Obama's list is cutting out projects / programs / entities that are wasting money, aren't working or are defrauding the gov / taxpayers...
I would say that's ONE of his motivations, but that's also the position he's held over the last almost 8 years, and during that time exactly how many investigations into fraud or anything else has his committee held? It's not like there hasn't been any evidence of some seriously f'd up stuff going down that his committee would have had oversight jurisdiction over... if anything I'd say the oversight committee under Joe has actively aided and abetted the admin and their cronies...
1970cs
· 1 year ago
Joe's only been ignoring things like Katrina and Iraq contractor theft for the past 2 years.
The previous six, the committee was chaired by Joe's friend, and recently re-elected Senator from Maine, Susan Collins(R).
SINGING_TROLL
· 1 year ago
Well, considering the Katrina and contractor examples, it seems to me Holy Joe is the perfect choice to carry on the tradition of a VA that serves only those employed by it, not those whose mission it is to serve. Yet, rank and file military continue to accept it. WTF are you gonna do?
1970cs
· 1 year ago
Offer the VA committee to Russ Feingold. The man has his priorities in place.
sukabi1
· 1 year ago
well that's 2 years of some pretty f'd up stuff right there, isn't it? And the aftermath of Katrina is still hurting folks, but good old Joe hasn't seen fit to investigate that .... and what exactly was the outcome of the FEMA response to Hurricane Ike? There has been a tremendous lack of information about that.
And that's the thing, when Joe took over the committee, there was a TON of evidence in the public domain relating to Iraq contractor theft / fraud -- and I would suspect that as committee chair he has had access to even more damning evidence than is publicly known, and what has he done about it?
1970cs
· 1 year ago
He called investigating Bush "partisan politics of polarization"
SINGING_TROLL
· 1 year ago
Reid is one of them....When are you going to wrap your head around this ugly truth?
While they may throw the little guy the occasional rancid bone, he AND Pelosi are Neocons through and through.
Wars will continue. The march to Fascism will move forward. We MUST purge our leaders. They have herded us into this position for whatever reason. They. Must. Go. And the door should leave a giant red welt on their coddled white asses on the way out.
jurassicpork
· 1 year ago
If Reid's going to kick Lieberman out of the Democratic caucus and chairman's chair of the Homeland Security Committee, then you're right, John. It doesn't make any sense to offer him another chairmanship. Those seats should not be given away as consolation prizes, especially to traitors to the party as Lieberman has been all these years.
NTRTP
· 1 year ago
It makes sense to me - put him in charge of dealing with that which his support has wrought. He'll be faced with dealing every day with the problems of the war that he was a cheerleader for, and as atonement - to clean them up.
SINGING_TROLL
· 1 year ago
I wouldn't want him as the overlord of wiping my ass, not to mention anything that involves compassion. I WOULD NEVER DO THAT TO OUR MILITARY. Don't you think they have been kicked around enough?
Joe Fuckin LIEBERMAN in charge of the VA???? Is REID INSANE???
sukabi1
· 1 year ago
The thing about the VA is that it's more visible, easier to see and track the misery. And would be easier to see and track what exactly Lieberman was / not doing as chair... With the DHS oversight alot can be cloaked / hidden in "national security" so it's harder to see what the weasel is doing.
Look, I personally think he should be thrown out of the caucus, and if it were possible the folks of Connecticut should recall him... but they can't do that... We can make Reid's and his lives miserable if he's left in place... which is something that should be done anyway, just on principle.
1970cs
· 1 year ago
I agree, that's where we are.
SINGING_TROLL
· 1 year ago
It is where we are. And it's where we will stay unless we stop acting like losers. It has always been our downfall and to borrow a phrase from Ronald Reagan: "HERE WE GO AGAIN"
LanceThruster
· 1 year ago
All I know is I'll feel a lot better when the Dems quite acting like Vichycrats (Pelosi urging for Obama to lead from the midle? WTF?). There's bipartisanship, and there's letting the people that dumped on you for so long pushing keep dumping on you. All I hear from the Right is that they're supposed to be able to keep dictating what the agenda needs to be and Joe Lieberscum is a part of that same warped mindset.
Show him the door.
Joe Lieberman: So that's it?!? Thank you and goodbye?
Us: We don't remember saying "Thank you."
Older_Wiser
· 1 year ago
Hey, Reid! KICK HIM TO THE CURB. (Can you hear me now?)
LIEberman deserves nothing, and he's in no position to bargain.
My friends here in the UK keep asking me how a 'Democrat' like Lieberperson can remain in the party while supporting a Repug. How does it work? How is he not just automatically ousted, Dem status cancelled, etc.? I know the Labour Party here in the past 10plus years has tried to out-Thatcher Thatcher (thank you Poodle Blair), but you don't see a Labour Party member openly and officially support a member of the opposing Tory Party. If a Labour Party member of Parliament openly stood and supported a Tory during an election, they'd be expelled. This kind pf political disloyalty is just unacceptable, no matter what is going on behind the scenes! Can someone give me an explanation, or do I just continue with my already bemused answer 'US politics are just really weird...'
okojo
· 1 year ago
Party Unity isn't as strong or required in the US Congress.. After a politician is elected twice or so, he or she has their own brand label with the voters, which makes it is difficult for party leadership to pull wayward members. Much like goofballs and crooks like James Trafficant can do whatever they please, because the voters will elect them, no matter if has his committee assignments taken away.
In the Senate, every vote counts, and every Senator can throw some serious monkey wrenches in the legislative process to hold up certain legislation. Senators also have to play nice, because if they want legislation passed, they need to corral as much votes as possible. They act more like state potentates at times.
Senator McCain has told off plenty of Senators, mainly Republicans, and a couple of them wouldn't speak to him for years, and it is one reason why Republicans haven't warmed up to his legislation for Campaign Finance and Immigration.
falloch
· 1 year ago
Thanks for these explanations - they make the whole idea of party 'loyalty' an interesting one, esp. the idea that Senators 'act more like ... potentates at times'. It does seem like that.
1970cs
· 1 year ago
Lieberman lost the democratic primary in '06 to Ned Lamont. At that point he started the CFL(Connecticut for Liberman party) It hasn't been lost on many people that it's not the Lieberman for CTparty. At that point he won the general election with heavy support of Independents and Republicans in a 3 way race. Anyway, technically Joe isn't a democrat, he just caucuses with them.
What is truly amazing is that he has this senate chaimanship, but his main campaign contributors are major Bush donors. Yet, were fighting with the Democratic leadership about removing him, aside from the considerable public record of trashing Obama etc.., is there any wonder where his loyalties are knowing where his money comes from.
okojo
· 1 year ago
After Lieberman lost the primary in 2006. The RNC gave Lieberman a bunch of money, (He already had a major war chest before the primary) Karl Rove basically told Alan Schlesinger (sp?) the Republican Candidate for Senate to drop dead and go away.
Lieberman knew if he caucused with the Republicans he would lose his seniority, which meant losing his power on any committee he sat on.
All of this brouhaha in the last couple days is Lieberman's doing. He could had laid low, did what Colin Powell did or Scott McClellan did, but Lieberman went out of his way to spite a former protege, who actually went to Connecticut to help Lieberman out...
The main reason I think the Senate Democrats should weigh in keeping Lieberman is if he going on the subpoena warpath..
McCain will probably retire in 2010, but the Republicans will welcome Lieberman with open arms if he can cause embarrassment to the Obama Administration... I seriously would treat the guy if he was Al D'Amato...
apykoris
· 1 year ago
As I recall, during the Florida 2000 recount, Lieberman said that unsigned and/or undated absentee ballots from overseas military should be counted, in violation of state election law, thus insuring a Bush victory. No one asked him, so his opinion served only to help the Republican Party - even back then. Does the old boy network even trump double crossing, narcissistic zealots?
okojo
· 1 year ago
Cynically i wouldn't offer Lieberman anything. Politically, I would offer a sub committee so he would caucus with the Dems.
Realistically, I would throw him to the Republicans and let him be their problem and who's hands need to stroke his ego.
The guy basically stated "Up yours" to the Democrats, even though he gave money to the Senate Democrat Election Committee or whatever it is called, (Which the Senate Republicans must really love) His antics of supporting Senator Collins for re-election, his antics of giving equal weight to the Republicans on the DHS committee, his lack of oversight on Katrina, the Bush Administration etc, shows he doesn't deserver Chairmanship of the DHS.
I am also guessing much of this is shadow puppet theatre, because Lieberman is going to be voted out of the caucus. Given how the Republicans were on the verge of stripping Arlen Spector of his Chair on the Judiciary Committee for saying stuff not in tune with Federalist Society, the Democrats should just kick Lieberman out. Lieberman will have no problem trying to act like Al D'Amato and trying to make hay in attacking the Obama Administration.
It is kind of funny also, because if McCain won the election. Lieberman would be lobbying hard for a top cabinet position, whether Defense, State or even DOJ, and he would have no qualms abandoning his "beloved" DHS committee.
SteamingPile
· 1 year ago
It was an opportunity to demonstrate that Sen. Reid is a much bigger man than Lieberschmuck can even claim to be during his most grandiose ego trip. If that would have been enough to pacify him, I probably would have said, "meh," and forgotten about the whole thing.
JoyceH
· 1 year ago
Ummm - not to be a nitpicker - oh heck, I'm being a nitpicker - but you 'snub' someone or you 'thumb your nose at' them. You don't snub your nose at them
Indigo
· 1 year ago
I'm apalled at Lieberman! Well, I'm apalled at him anyhow but to turn down the Veterans' Affairs Committee is rude. For one thing, veterans deserve respect and for another thing, veteran medical care needs some serious upgrading.
Chairing that committe could open a wonderful door into improving the health of the nation. There are unresolved issues of post-traumatic stress disorder that date back to Vietnam and Agent Orange related ailments as well. There are psychological issues with the Gulf 1 & 2 vets that have got to be faced and there are remarkable physical rehab programs for the Iraq and Afghanistan veterans that need support, expansion, and wide-spread publicity.
Yes, John's right, offering such a responsible and highly visible office to LIeberman is a bit of a toady trick, but what a wonderful opportunity for Lieberman to rahabilitate his reputation. He said no. Well, okay. Dump him.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
Why would veterans, like me, want Lieberman to sabotage efforts for veterans? Kick him OUT of the caucus!
Obama Administration needs to have some input on Lieberman, as well.
We are watching... County Democratic Officers, like me, want to wring his neck for providing cover to Democrats who used him as an excuse to vote Republican this election.
tommytoonz
· 1 year ago
I don't understand Reid's reasoning for even entertaining keeping Leiberman in a chairmanship position or even as a member of the Democratic caucus. He may have voted with Democrats on a number of issues and he probably will continue to but make him EARN his chairmanship. Take it away from him and in 2 years when there's another election and chairmanships open again, if he's been good, he can have one then, or in 2012. Leiberman should get nothing, period. He should have to earn, through good behavior and support of Democrats, any position of leadership in the Senate.
djonan
· 1 year ago
What's missing here is that Reid was going to allow Lieberman to jump in front of Patty Murray (D-WA) who is next in line to chair this Committee (first woman ever!!). She is an OUTSTANDING ally for the troops and their families.
Outspoken1
· 1 year ago
If it would not be such an insult to the country, how about sending Joe Lieberman as Ambassador to Tongo.
Lilly
· 1 year ago
Let's appoint Lieberman ambassador to Africa, that country that Sarah Palin talks about.
David_in_Toronto
· 1 year ago
I'm still trying to understand Reid. Initially I agreed with his reluctance to chase someone out of caucus when we're so close to a filibuster proof majority. It's doubly hard if you're trying to sell bi-partisanship.
But I think Reid is coming to the same conclusion that we are: Lieberman's sympathies have shifted, and he is more likely to work against the president than with him. I appreciate Reid's caution, but it's time to come down hard on Lieberman. There used to be something to admire, but frankly, he's become a treacherous prick.
I'm shocked at the callousness Lieberman has displayed.
decard
· 1 year ago
the US is not at war with Iraq. I'd like to see the media call it what it really is, an occupation, let's stop using the hawks' frame on this atrocious travesty they've concocted.
elRey
· 1 year ago
I don't think that story is correct today Reid said he did not offer that position on the Veteran's Affairs Committee to Lieberman, and that he (Lieberman) is not even on that committee. I do not like it one bit hearing Harry Reid fawning over Lieberman, but he did say that the Democratic caucus would have to decide, so it sounds like a vote to me. I hope all the petitions and calls for Joe's ouster will work. HE'S GOTTA GO!!!
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Doesn't the Senate need a subcommittee on "Wastewater Treatment?"
There shouldn't be any ifs,ands, or buts about it.......
and if Dodd contnues to be wobbly time to get angry
http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-lieberm...
Or just tell him JoeFuckYourself.
The fact that they are offering him any consolation prize instead of tossing him to the wolves is disgraceful. This Senate clubbiness needs to be stomped flat now.
Police estimated that 12,500 boisterous marchers converged about 6 p.m. at Sunset and Santa Monica boulevards in Silver Lake near the site of the former Black Cat bar, which the city recently designated a historic-cultural monument for its '60s role as home of the local gay rights movement. … Other demonstrations, including one that attracted up to 10,000 people in San Diego, popped up across the state. … an early morning rally Saturday in the Morley Field area adjacent to Balboa Park. Police estimated the crowd at 8,000 to 10,000 with no reported arrests. …. and 2,000 rallying in Long Beach, leading to 15 arrests. … Additional demonstrations are planned for today for downtown Los Angeles, Lake Forest, Laguna Niguel, La Jolla, Oakland, Sacramento, San Jose and Visalia. Organizers of many of these plan to have protesters congregate at or march to Catholic churches and Mormon sites.
Lieberman is a traitor, and he needs punishment. Failure to discipline sends the wrong signal to other fence sitting Democrats.
And we are going to need MAJOR doses of discipline over the next 18 months. Some programs are going to be cut and we need a show of courage and leadership back home by our Senators and Reps. The corporate elite just tied up $700 billion (for what? bonuses? dividends?) that should have gone to establish national health care. Very clever move. Because once established it will never go away--though we have it in the form of Medicare and all that is needed is to drop the age of eligibility, perhaps to 55 to take care of the people whose retirements were just creamed by Wall Street, perhaps using some of that $700 billion.
kill him with kindness, but kill him
A way of swaying other senators, perhaps, or at least giving the appearance of being the more level-headed grown-up side of the table.
Sure that's it. Harry is STRATERGIZING
OUTFUKING'RAGIOUS!!!!
Oh, that's right, things are changing.
He's been in there longer then Emanuel, prolly when he was still shitting in his pants....
meet the new boss
http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-lieberm...
This would appear to be Joe's main motivation
The previous six, the committee was chaired by Joe's friend, and recently re-elected Senator from Maine, Susan Collins(R).
Yet, rank and file military continue to accept it.
WTF are you gonna do?
And that's the thing, when Joe took over the committee, there was a TON of evidence in the public domain relating to Iraq contractor theft / fraud -- and I would suspect that as committee chair he has had access to even more damning evidence than is publicly known, and what has he done about it?
While they may throw the little guy the occasional rancid bone, he AND Pelosi are Neocons through and through.
Wars will continue. The march to Fascism will move forward. We MUST purge our leaders. They have herded us into this position for whatever reason.
They. Must. Go.
And the door should leave a giant red welt on their coddled white asses on the way out.
I WOULD NEVER DO THAT TO OUR MILITARY.
Don't you think they have been kicked around enough?
Joe Fuckin LIEBERMAN in charge of the VA???? Is REID INSANE???
http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/07/lieberman-was...
Show him the door.
Joe Lieberman: So that's it?!? Thank you and goodbye?
Us: We don't remember saying "Thank you."
LIEberman deserves nothing, and he's in no position to bargain.
nothin from nothin leaves nothin
you gotta have somethin
if you wanna be with me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_DV54ddNHE
In the Senate, every vote counts, and every Senator can throw some serious monkey wrenches in the legislative process to hold up certain legislation. Senators also have to play nice, because if they want legislation passed, they need to corral as much votes as possible. They act more like state potentates at times.
Senator McCain has told off plenty of Senators, mainly Republicans, and a couple of them wouldn't speak to him for years, and it is one reason why Republicans haven't warmed up to his legislation for Campaign Finance and Immigration.
What is truly amazing is that he has this senate chaimanship, but his main campaign contributors are major Bush donors. Yet, were fighting with the Democratic leadership about removing him, aside from the considerable public record of trashing Obama etc.., is there any wonder where his loyalties are knowing where his money comes from.
Lieberman knew if he caucused with the Republicans he would lose his seniority, which meant losing his power on any committee he sat on.
All of this brouhaha in the last couple days is Lieberman's doing. He could had laid low, did what Colin Powell did or Scott McClellan did, but Lieberman went out of his way to spite a former protege, who actually went to Connecticut to help Lieberman out...
The main reason I think the Senate Democrats should weigh in keeping Lieberman is if he going on the subpoena warpath..
McCain will probably retire in 2010, but the Republicans will welcome Lieberman with open arms if he can cause embarrassment to the Obama Administration... I seriously would treat the guy if he was Al D'Amato...
Realistically, I would throw him to the Republicans and let him be their problem and who's hands need to stroke his ego.
The guy basically stated "Up yours" to the Democrats, even though he gave money to the Senate Democrat Election Committee or whatever it is called, (Which the Senate Republicans must really love) His antics of supporting Senator Collins for re-election, his antics of giving equal weight to the Republicans on the DHS committee, his lack of oversight on Katrina, the Bush Administration etc, shows he doesn't deserver Chairmanship of the DHS.
I am also guessing much of this is shadow puppet theatre, because Lieberman is going to be voted out of the caucus. Given how the Republicans were on the verge of stripping Arlen Spector of his Chair on the Judiciary Committee for saying stuff not in tune with Federalist Society, the Democrats should just kick Lieberman out. Lieberman will have no problem trying to act like Al D'Amato and trying to make hay in attacking the Obama Administration.
It is kind of funny also, because if McCain won the election. Lieberman would be lobbying hard for a top cabinet position, whether Defense, State or even DOJ, and he would have no qualms abandoning his "beloved" DHS committee.
Chairing that committe could open a wonderful door into improving the health of the nation. There are unresolved issues of post-traumatic stress disorder that date back to Vietnam and Agent Orange related ailments as well. There are psychological issues with the Gulf 1 & 2 vets that have got to be faced and there are remarkable physical rehab programs for the Iraq and Afghanistan veterans that need support, expansion, and wide-spread publicity.
Yes, John's right, offering such a responsible and highly visible office to LIeberman is a bit of a toady trick, but what a wonderful opportunity for Lieberman to rahabilitate his reputation. He said no. Well, okay. Dump him.
Obama Administration needs to have some input on Lieberman, as well.
We are watching... County Democratic Officers, like me, want to wring his neck for providing cover to Democrats who used him as an excuse to vote Republican this election.
But I think Reid is coming to the same conclusion that we are: Lieberman's sympathies have shifted, and he is more likely to work against the president than with him. I appreciate Reid's caution, but it's time to come down hard on Lieberman. There used to be something to admire, but frankly, he's become a treacherous prick.
I'm shocked at the callousness Lieberman has displayed.
the Veteran's Affairs Committee to Lieberman, and that he (Lieberman) is not even on that committee. I do not like it one bit hearing Harry Reid fawning over Lieberman, but he did say that the Democratic caucus would have to decide, so it sounds like a vote to me. I hope all the petitions and calls for Joe's ouster will work. HE'S GOTTA GO!!!