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AMERICAblog: Like Bush, McCain sees success in Iraq, but his GOP Senate colleagues aren't buying it

  • nicho · 1 year ago
    For those of you under 40, this is exactly how we got so bogged down in Vietnam. This whole thing is like deja vu for me.
  • theWalrus · 1 year ago
    I could only watch a few minutes of the Petraeus hearing - McCain was trying his best to look & sound Presidential. How can you have hearings about the progress of a war that should have never taken place? It's a sick joke. We have servicemen and women dying in vain because of a small group of delusional neocons.
  • maggiePA08 · 1 year ago
    I tuned in to the hearing just in time to see someone being thrown out while shouting "BRING THEM HOME!"
  • jr · 1 year ago
    McCain has been throwing money in Terence Trent D'Arby's wishing well
  • scooter in brooklyn · 1 year ago
    oh jeez - lieberman to inhoffe - i dont know which is worse.
  • gonzalez · 1 year ago
    Enugh of these republican idiots! When is the people going to wake up and realized that we are being lied to? Don't count on the hill billies to do anything about this. This has to come from the reasonable people not from the republicans. They will never admit failure even if it is them right in their faces.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Corker might be smarter than he seems.

    He's the one who made the comment awhile ago about meeting with Bush on Iraq and being disappointed by Bush's lack of knowledge or some-such.

    He might ask some good questions.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    From November:

    Tennessee Senator Bob Corker raised some eyebrows at a luncheon at the Chattanoogan hotel Tuesday with remarks about President Bush.
    Speaking to a crowd of about 500 supporters, led by Hamilton County Mayor Claude Ramsey, Corker spoke about a range of issues, including energy, healthcare, and his experiences during his first year as a Senator.
    But his remarks about his experiences with the White House during meetings on the war in Iraq left some in the crowd befuddled.
    "I was in the White House a number of times to talk about the issue, and I may rankle some in the room saying this, but I was very underwhelmed with what discussions took place at the White House," Corker said.
  • Webster · 1 year ago
    I remember, vividly, the generals and the White House claiming over and over again in Vietnam, "there's light at the end of the tunnel." There never was any light except in the anti-war movement. It really is time to hit the streets again--this stupid, stupid war is destroying this country.
  • Webster · 1 year ago
    And there have been, as of this morning, 4023 American deaths in Iraq. A sad and tragic waste of life.
  • Angry · 1 year ago
    For a five-year catalog of McCain's erroneous statements on Iraq, see:
    "Forever Wrong: Five Years of John McCain on Iraq."

    For the details on John McCain confusing friend and foe in Iraq, see:
    "Four Strikes and You're Out: McCain on Al Qaeda and Iran."
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    I am listening to the Corker/Petraeus hearing. It is amazing that the Republicans still support this war. Listening to Lieberman and his ball licking comments should make everyone who voted for him as an Independent puke in their mouths.
    If Corker says uh, uh, uh anymore i will throw something at the computer.

    We have had 5 years of no answers, no solutions, no way to pull out. It will take a strong person to simply say, Bring the boys and girls home. What is more important the illusion of winning by beating some Arabs who have no tanks, no planes, no humvees, no rocket launchers, but know how to dig a hole, bury a bomb and have an American vehicle drive over it.
    Where are the 400,000 Iraqi's we trained the last time Petraeus talked to us.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    McMoreWar is already singing the neocon's favorite tune.
    such a maverick.
  • therepguy · 1 year ago
    Morning

    Where did you find your texas icon... would love to get one for myself
  • nicho · 1 year ago
    lynchie 6 minutes ago

    I am listening to the Corker/Petraeus hearing. It is amazing that the Republicans still support this war.


    It's not so amazing. The Rove/DeLay assault on the Republican party included removing anyone with the ability to think and act for themselves and replacing them with dim-witted ideologues. This is what has killed the Republican party.

    It's the same thing JohnPaul and Bernie the Rat did with the Catholic church. Anyone who showed any signs of intellect or independence was removed and replaced with dimwitted bishop and cardinals who would toe the right-sing line.
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    Susan Collins is now on asked a good question and now listening to Petraeus make excuses for the Iraqi's. 5 years and they can't defend themselves. He says they are taking the lead then if we do have all these people trained time for them to step up and for us to step out.
  • scooter in brooklyn · 1 year ago
    senator susie is getting impatient. maybe the great state of maine will do us all a favor this year and boot her ass from the senate.
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    Scooter: Susan senses that she needs to stand up or will be selling cookies on the street in Portland.
  • therepguy · 1 year ago
    Could it be that the GOP Senators have at long last woken up to the fact that there's a election just around the corner?

    Bottom line: to late the train as left the station... and the GOP is no where to be found on that train!

    And what's with Susan Collins, she sounds sickly?
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    therepguy-
    sorry i just now saw your question...
    i did google images for 'blue texas' i think, and found pics that way...
    good luck!
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Shorter Crocker:
    Imaginary ends justify corrupt means...
  • scooter in brooklyn · 1 year ago
    oh joy - now lindsay gets to stick his tongue up crocker/petraeus' butts.
  • bronco214 · 1 year ago
    Really, really evident that Lindsey would be on his knees in a flash if Petraous let him.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    On various trips Johnny takes the top bunk while Miss Lindsey and the sour Milk of Joenesia fight over the bottom one...
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    "The next 3 to 6 months are critical"

    Again.
  • Johnny Quest · 1 year ago
    The American people may be tired of the war - who isn't - but neither do a majority want to lose. Do not forget that the war had popular support when it began - and not especially because of the WMD thing either. Americans, or at least those intelligent enough to vote, have some understanding of the geopolitical realities of the Mid-east, and they can see through the media's filter to recoginize that - as frustratingly slow as the process is - we are gaining ground towards the eventual goal of a stable and friendly government in Iraq which does, whether you admit or not, serve our interests. Obama and/or Hillary may well find the hobby horse of Iraq that they have been riding, will roll over on top of them. Certainly this is McCain's judgement and gamble. Without the Iraq war, all the Democrats really have to offer is higher taxes, more social programs, and exreme positions in the cultural wars that most Americans reject and which the American people have voted against pretty much for the last forty years. Add to that the fact that Obama's glowing sheen of being above it all is now absolutely gone, and he is increasingly perceived as just another politician who looks pretty, as well as for his very left of center pollitics (not to mention the whole racial thing, which will continue to rumble below the surface until the election), and it is looking better and better for McCain. In short, the Dems in the Senate actually look pretty silly today. What a drag!
  • Webster · 1 year ago
    Looks like the bus from the Home for the Hopelessly Bewildered arrived on time.
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Johnny Quest,

    Actually, your talking point regurgitation is beyond silly.
  • scarlet p. · 1 year ago
    Some pix from my visit to LA:

    http://freewayblogger.blogspot.com/2008/04/los-...

    Join me for the next war, won't you?
  • kipper · 1 year ago
    Johnny Quest chooses to come on and call the Democrats "pretty silly" just after Senator Lindsay Graham finishes his " questions"? Come on Johnny, the man ALL but had on a cheerleading uniform... pom poms and all. When did any sense of reality fly out the window?
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    "When did any sense of reality fly out the window?"

    That was back in January 2001.
  • AdrianBrowne · 1 year ago
    It doesn't seem that "Victory in Iraq" would even be good for the United States even on Republican terms -- there's already been too much death, maiming, poisoning, destruction, disease and misery.

    And call it what it is, McCain's idea of "victory" is just STALEMATE. That's the best he can hope for at this point.
  • Mike Meyer · 1 year ago
    IMPEACHMENT IS THE ANSWER, give Nan a call 1-202-225-0100.
  • theWalrus · 1 year ago
    "The American people may be tired of the war - who isn't - but neither do a majority want to lose. "

    SImply untrue. Big, fat rightwing lie.

    Latest Gallup Poll

    When asked the following:
    "If you had to choose, which do you think is better for the U.S. -- to keep a significant number of troops in Iraq until the situation gets better, even if that takes many years, or to set a timetable for removing troops from Iraq and to stick to that timetable regardless of what is going on in Iraq?"

    35% said "Stay"
    60% said "Leave" REGARDLESS of what is going on.

    There have been 3 or 4 other polls that have reflected the same feeling.
  • CDS2 · 1 year ago
    Looks like it wil be hard for you to find someone to vote for? I mean all three want to keep up to 80,000 of our troops in Iraq for an indefinate amount of time.
  • Grimmlok · 1 year ago
    Johnny Quest, the Iraq government was plenty friendly to US interests back in the 80's whn the US was supplying them with cash, weapons, and information against the Iranians.

    it's only when Saddam decided to take off his CIA leash that Dubbya 1 got pissy with him.

    Saddam was no danger to the US, and yet his country was wiped out for a neocon pipedream of easily accessible oil.

    As for the rest of that piffle you spouted, you cannot simply impose democracy on that kind of culture and expect it to work. It has to grow organically in tune with the cultural tenets at hand, and since Iraq is basically a big religious/tribal mess, it won't take hold.

    It's one big clusterfuck for stupid, shortsighted short-term strategic gain.. just like Iraq's befriending int he 80's, or the support for Bin Laden's mujahideen in Afghanistan, or the central american rebels trying to overthrow legally elected governments...

    The US needs to stop sticking its fucking fingers in every hot pie and then complaining when it realizes it got burnt.
  • Dizzle · 1 year ago
    I want some of what John McCain and George Bush are smoking. It's obvious the Secret Service gets them some killer dope. There is not now, nor has there ever been a "victory" for America in Iraq. We lost this war before it was ever launched. The only way for us to "succeeed" is to kill every Muslim on the face of the planet. Short of that, there is little we can do to bring peace to the Islamic world. So, if we must "lose" let's choose a loss that will end American soldiers being killed on foreign soil. Let the neo-cons find some other matieral to fuel their masturbatory fantasies.
  • Mil · 1 year ago
    I've been listening to the "Lets Bomb Iran" love-fest going on. Sick.
  • Chris From Maine · 1 year ago
    there is no victory, therefore there is no success.

    the only option is to remove all troops and beg forgiveness from the world.

    anything else will only kill, maim and injure more human beings for nothing.