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AMERICAblog: Little girl cried because Obama wants us out of Iraq

  • eclare · 1 year ago
    That's funny, because months ago my five year old nephew cried because he was afraid that Daddy wouldn't be able to come home from Iraq if McCain won the election.
  • jenjen64 · 1 year ago
    Did anyone notice the date at the bottom of his story? He said on "the night of November 3rd..." and the election was on the 4th. Mr. Obama had not even been elected yet, nor was there any indication he may win. I think if one is that involved with politicals and elections/voting, one should at least know when election day is. So that last sentence tells me right there he is another properly brainwashed military member, more than likely an officer or higer ranking soldier. But then again I have encountered people during my military years that just don't have a clue and believe anything shoved into their ears.
  • moreleesafer · 1 year ago
    yeah, my 11 year old understood that Obama was going to bring home the troops so that his family and friends did not have to be sent to the desert--------AGAIN. And was quite happy.
  • ProgressiveTroll · 1 year ago
    We thought the Rethugs went after Clinton. That will be nothing compared to what they are already preparing to do to Obama. You can already buy Impeach Obama items on Cafepress. Forget bipartisan anything. And the corporate media will be right there along side them. This fight for our country is going to be just as hard as it was in the very beginning. I've been doing a lot of reading and research on the founding of this country in the last couple of weeks and I would recommend everyone do the same. Let history be our guide, this is going to be a very hard fight.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    really sad... the man hasn't even taken office yet.

    if the euphoria that swept the nation (and other nations as well) with the news of his victory is any indicator though... the American public will stand up to the asshats who try to bring him down before he even starts accomplishing things.

    we need change as a whole... if bipartisan attacks threaten that change, you remove those people from any position that can obstruct that change.

    in two years... I predict even more Dem seats are picked up.

    .
  • ProgressiveTroll · 1 year ago
    I sure hope your right. I live in Redneck city though and that tends to dampen my optimism! We did elect a Dem as gov. here in Mo, but we overwhelming elected a bunch of redwingers to the house and senate so the guy isn't going to be able to get much done, if anything. And it looks like McCain is going to get Mo, even though the counting isn't done yet, which is smelling very fishy to me. Even though Obama's win was big electorally, it really wasn't that large in popular vote I didn't think. It's amazing even after all we've been through in the last eight years and the hanging on the edge of cliff, that so many people still voted for McCain is mind boggling.
  • Elbaba · 1 year ago
    hi... you said: "It's amazing even after all we've been through in the last eight years and the hanging on the edge of cliff, that so many people still voted for McCain is mind boggling."

    I'd just like to say that to me, it's not that surprising because of one little detail... President-Elect, Barack Obama is black. It's really sad that so many people are still afraid of anyone with darker skin than theirs.

    slightly O/T: My sister and I went to a bar/club this past weekend, we saw a group of college students hackling a few customers, and getting out of line with some of the women at the bar. One guy stood up for his girflriend when one of the idiots approached her, next thing you know they were cursing at each other and the college jocks got kicked out for harrasing the patrons.

    When my sister and I went outside to smoke, we saw that the guys that had been kicked out had returned and were engaging in an argument with the security at the door. They were cursing at the security guards, using racial epithets and yelling at the guards that they didn't care if that "nigger Obama" was elected president.

    The police showed up at that point, they argued with the security guards over the group of college guys hanging about the entrance, then turned around and told the guys to just sober up and go home. The owner decided to ask the cops if that's all they were going to do and he was told to step back and let them do their job. When he reminded them that they had knives, had threatened his patrons and staff with bodily harm and were obviously too drunk to know better, he was told again to mind his business and let them do their job.

    The cops.. White... the drunk college assholes, White... the bar owner, Latino and the security guards Latino and Black.

    There's your tax dollars hard at work...
  • ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith) · 1 year ago
    Good God people, have we learned nothing yet?!?! Stop fretting about what the GOP is going to do and concentrate on the goal at hand. The amount of times we heard about how awful the GOP was going to be to Obama in the general election only to watch most of that blow up squarely in their face was almost comical. Progressives have a collective victim mentality that needs to be shaken off like a bad funk, fast!

    The best way to make it difficult for the GOP to do anything is for Democrats and Progressives to do something. The GOP is becoming more and more irrelevant with every election simply because the only tool they have is hate and fearmongering, and people are already backed in a corner and too damn scared to be scared any more. People want a competant effective government, if Obama can do that, it will make the teflon coat he had during the election look like nothing. So take all the energy we consume scared of the big bad GOP and focus it on getting this country back on its feet.

    Stop being afraid, get mad, govern better, it's open season on Republicans and I'm in the mood for GOP meat.
  • Gridlock · 1 year ago
    Lose the war? You mean scew up the illegal invasion and illegal occupation.

    Don't worry, little Sally.. Mission Accomplished, remember? Now you run along and play with your fighter pilot Bush doll.
  • Sanjuro · 1 year ago
    Unless you have evidence of Joe the Plumber actually misrepresenting his taxable income then I think calling him a cheat is incorrect. He is delinquent on payments but that does not necessarily make him a cheat.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    he had a judgement against him for failure to pay taxes... that qualifies him as a tax cheat.
  • Gridlock · 1 year ago
    Delinquency is still cheating, just a different kind.
  • ProgressiveTroll · 1 year ago
    He's not delinquent any longer. Some Rethug operative paid off the tax judgment against him.
  • Gridlock · 1 year ago
    Awww Joe the Plumber, welfare queen and strange opponent of social programs, took an RNC handout?

    Yeah.. you're against a helping hand unless the hand is giving you a reach around, eh Joe?

    Twit.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Deserves to be SHOUTED AND REPEATED at every Republican:

    "Yeah.. you're against a helping hand unless the hand is giving you a reach around, eh Joe?"

    They call them "handouts" unless they are the ones snatching away the dollars, right? Its a handout if its given to some poor schmuck but NOT a handout if its a BAILOUT, right?

    HANDOUTS = BAILOUTS to greedy Republicans

    Newsreaders need to get the memo. Stop calling HANDOUTS to billionaires BAILOUTS. Its a HANDOUT to the rich.
  • ProgressiveTroll · 1 year ago
    Actually, "Joe" the "Plumber" misrepresented all kinds of things. He's name isn't Joe, he isn't a licensed plumber. He's unemployed. I would say calling him a cheat is very accurate.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    someone should tell the little girl that Obama won because sarah palin made the baby Jesus cry.

    it makes as much sense as the whole article anyway.
  • Older_Wiser · 1 year ago
    Gawd, what a piece of treacle.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    smarm-o-rama.

    we're not THOSE kind of parents...right. gah.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    ...and when the truth about this heartwrenching story comes out in the next few days, we find that Rich Lowry was pinching the poor little girl to make her cry and then just fabricated the part about Iraq....

    i just betcha.
  • foxy · 1 year ago
    This is only going to get...better ahhh worse?
  • skeptic · 1 year ago
    This sort of thinking on the part of the GOP was well laid out last night on Frontline. Boogie Man: The Lee Atwater story. He was mentor to Rove and set up all of the GOP ways to run elections Basically fear and smear tactics and perpetual lies.

    Worth seeing if you get the chance.
  • Older_Wiser · 1 year ago
    Yes, I watched it, was very good. Karma won in the end for this reactionary racist. Never relent with those bastards. (I was born in Columbia, SC; if you have a few hours, I'll tell you all about that state...live in NC now, and SC is the same as when I was born, just more sophisticated about it.)
  • ProgressiveTroll · 1 year ago
    Karma sure did get that guy! Wow. Too bad his fellow "boogiemen" didn't get the hint.
  • ProgressiveTroll · 1 year ago
    I didn't think I'd be able to watch that, but did it anyway. My daughter didn't understand why I would bother. It was very interesting. Everyone should watch it. It is disgusting, but still necessary in my view. The Democratic Party still has a long way to go in learning how to act against these outright lies and distortions. Just look at how many people think Mr. Obama is a Muslim.
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Let's go back to Vietnam and get the job done right...

    ...for Jesus.
  • Older_Wiser · 1 year ago
    David French, married to Nancy French, both work for Evangelicals for Mitt. Also DF is sr legal counsel for ADF (I'm assuming they're still operational)::

    About ADF

    Purpose
    The Alliance Defense Fund is a legal alliance defending the right to hear and speak the Truth through strategy, training, funding, and litigation.
    History
    Responding to the urgent need for the legal defense and advocacy of religious freedom, the leaders of 35 ministries came together in 1994 to launch ADF.
    Team
    The Alliance Defense Fund is humbled to have dedicated women and men serving on the "front lines" in this war, fighting for religious freedom, the sanctity of human life, and traditional family values.
    Allies
    Since 1994, ADF has been privileged to partner with and/or act in alliance with more than 300 ministries and organizations.

    Fucking dominionists, for sure. No wonder that piece is treacle.
  • Psyche · 1 year ago
    "It's all about spinning the lie and winning the voter, whatever it takes."

    Agree as far as the statement goes. I think there's another important element - the emotional appeal. Th "target audience" may be mean and unable to rationally think their way out of a paper bag but are they ever saps for saccharine sentimental appeals (one of Palin's "virtues" BTW).
  • AdrianBrowne · 1 year ago
    Drudge and the Wingnut blogs have an almost daily ritual of some outrage perpetrated on a child.
  • AdrianBrowne · 1 year ago
    If you really want her to cry try carving a backwards "B" into her face.
  • Gridlock · 1 year ago
    Well, you'd need a black Obama supporting mugger for that, and they probably don't let black people into their house.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    Gridlock... you don't actually need a real mugger... if you're repugnican, you just suggest one exists and you're golden.
  • Gridlock · 1 year ago
    They might be uncomfortable with a black cardboard cutout. I can see them giving it nervous eyes while they set up the camera.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    egad.... the guy is " a senior counsel at the Alliance Defense Fund"

    given that... he IS one of "those types of parents"

    egad... onward chri$tian soldier.
  • Older_Wiser · 1 year ago
    and evangelicalsformitt.com

    and they belong to Zion Presbyterian Church...wow, never knew the Presbys were into that shit, but guess they are in TN.
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    He probably pinched her. That would be child abuse in a civilized country but with the Republicans in office . . .
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    actually, he strangled her hamster.

    ever see "Die Mommy Die"?

    :-)
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    LOL !
  • bacalove · 1 year ago
    That is why they are on the Out and we are in. Masters of spin and manipultion like the Wizards of Oz who offer only illusions and disappointments and no real solutions to problems.
  • ProgressiveTroll · 1 year ago
    Even with their losses they still don't get it. They think they lost because they weren't "conservative" enough. By that they mean racist and liars and distorters. Jindal yesterday was saying that people need to hear their solutions for energy and the economy, but it was telling that he didn't offer to tell what those "solutions" were.
  • bacalove · 1 year ago
    I like Jindall.  He is the "newer" type of GOP who dares to really care about people and not extort them.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    sorta OT...

    ITS ALIVE!!! AND IT SPEAKS!!!!

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/12/polit...
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    As a parent who happens to be gay, if he had spoken to my kid like that I would have killed the POS! Typical Republican, trying to find his way back into politics and won't take responsibility for what he did. Not only a POS liar, but a hypocrite. He wants back into the Republican Party to vote against gay rights while enjoyiing his pedophilia in secret and proclaiming himself a "family values" guy. PUKE.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    this is amazing:

    I loved my early life, and then along comes a priest ... who forces me into a sexual relationship at the age of 12. And right shortly thereafter, I fail eighth grade, I start drugs, I start drinking, I start smoking. My entire life ... implodes."

    he should've blamed the priest for becoming a republican as well.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Yes, becoming a pedophile Republican who fights against gay family values wasn't a positive reaction to being raped at twelve, either. He needs to come full circle, embrace progressives, love, tolerance and true family values that respect ALL people's civil rights.
  • missmarple · 1 year ago
    I think it would be so hard for families who have lost loved ones in Iraq to admit the truth to themselves that their loved ones didn't die "Defending our Freedoms" but died in a War based on lies, fears and the greed of the Military Industrial Complex.
  • skeptic · 1 year ago
    Don't forget the main reason: OIL
  • Hack · 1 year ago
  • barts · 1 year ago
    I wonder how many children are crying now or scared shitless because their parents' marriage was voted a sham?

    Hmmmm...yes, I'm just wondering.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    My partner and I have a nineteen year old who isn't scared shitless or crying, but he is MAD AS HELL at California. So are his friends. He is a very influential popular kid in his large circle of friends here in Tulsa, Oklahoma. It certainly gives me hope that kids that age in the reddest of red states HATE Republicans and their unfair policies. Anyone who is fighting against gay marriage is on the wrong side of history, just like those people who opposed interracial marriage. We have the younger generation on our side...
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Had the father who wrote the story not been brainwashed from listening to Fox News he could have told his daughter, "Honey, you should be crying that George W. Bush sent us to the wrong war, based on lies, and Obama is going to refocus our War on Terror so we might have a better chance of getting Osama bin Laden." I wonder if his daughter is crying today for the two troops who were just killed by an Iraqi soldier? Doubtful, because that wouldn't fit the narrative. Lets all cry for that poor misunderstood George W. Bush who just wanted to show Momma he was a bigger man than Daddy by invading a country to kill Saddam and then totally mismanage the war at our nation's peril. What a bunch of schlock! Republicans need to wake up and realize their misdirected loyalty has almost cost our nation its future, and either start helping dig out or STFU! I'm sick to death of hearing their overly sentimental dripping tripe about how we need to feed more young troops into Bu$h's death machine to vindicate Republican's misdirected and horribly bad judgment. Again, its time to FOCUS on the REAL War on Terror, and tell Republicans to help, or get out of the way and just STFU. We don't have any more time, resources or blood to help make them feel better about the disasters they've caused.
  • caphillprof · 1 year ago
    First, we all should note that the election had been a "dominant theme" not only at home and in school but "AT OUR CHURCH." No wonder the poor child was crying.

    Now for some perspective: On the morning after the election of JFK, I arrived at my elementary school to see a classmate and her sister in tears at the prospect of the Pope imposing Catholicism on her Methodist/Masonic family.

    The only other time I saw her in tears was in junior high after the announcement that JFK had been assassinated.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Yes, "at our church" I hope the Obama administration refocuses its efforts to determine which churches are operating as Political Action Committees and which are truly doing apolitical work for the disadvantaged. I'm sick to death of radical right wing Republican churches enjoying tax exempt status to try to force others to practice their politics.
  • Older_Wiser · 1 year ago
    pcazion.org

    Bet the poor kid has to go to their "christian school" too...
  • JD_Rhoades · 1 year ago
    If anyone's responsible for making that little girl cry it's the parents who filled her with fear, just like they've been trying to fill the rest of us with fear.
  • Milli · 1 year ago
    Onward Christian Soldiers..........
  • HereinDC · 1 year ago
    The word "naught" was not in my vocabulary UNTIL Sarah Palin used it.
    I may have heard it used once or twice in my 50 years on this earth...
    I wonder how many other people never used or heard that word TILL Sarah Palin used it the week before the Election.

    Thus another word or phrase the GOP sinks their teeth in and repeat over and over and over.
  • Older_Wiser · 1 year ago
    You mean as in, "Our political philosophy amounts to naught for hardworking Americans"???
  • nikto · 1 year ago
    Sarah Palin's integrity amounts to naught.

    The validity of Conservatism is naught.
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Many children have cried because their Dads came back from Iraq in a box.

    Halliburton stock was way up at the time.
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    Interesting that dad didn't explain all the tears shed by Iraqi children for their lost parents, brother, sisters and friends over the last six years. . . or the tears shed by the children and spouses of Americans lost or ripped to shreds and then cast aside by a thoughtless republican administration . . . or tears shed by the people who have to reassemble their lives when returning from the illegal occupation (not a war).

    What a shitty "dad" and "journalist".
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    I want to share something positive, uplifting and hopeful. My mother is a strong Democrat but we live in very Red State Oklahoma. She has been very passive around her friends who disrespect her by constantly berating her by repeating FOX NEWS talking points to her, even though they know she disagrees. She usually just listens, and directs the conversation elsewhere. She called me the day before yesterday to report how proud she was of herself for standing her ground. She told me Barack Obama's win has steeled her spine and allowed her to jump in her friend's idiotic shit. She was having lunch with two friends at a restaurant who started in on Obama being a muslim, and taking away their gun rights and my mother threatened them if they didn't shut the hell up with their lies she was going to flip over their table, and they could just clean up the mess. She reminded them she has had to listen to their lying bullshit for eight years and our nation is in a deep ditch because they got everything they wanted for the past eight years. She said they all just sat there for awhile dumbfounded, blinking at each other and then changed the subject. BWAHAHAHAhaaaa! Mom's got game! Change is GOOD!
  • Elbaba · 1 year ago
    I HEART your mom!
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Me too. We are in Oklahoma for a reason. G-d put us here because WE are fighters. We have a lot of work ahead of us here, that is for sure, but we have the young people and history on our side.
  • nikto · 1 year ago
    Your mom rocks!!
  • EmGD · 1 year ago
    Surely we should govern our country based on the irrational, emotional whims of children, right? Wait a minute, I have the vague sense that what i just wrote somehow applies to the leadership of this country for the past eight years.

    http://thesebastards.blogspot.com/
  • Speakout · 1 year ago
    I'll never forget the 6 year old who told me back in 2004 that "John Kerry kills babies." He told me he learned that at school- A local catholic school. My jaw was on the floor.
  • nikto · 1 year ago
    To keep things balanced, all you needed to say was that Catholic Priests rape children.

    True, in MANY cases, 'dat.
  • Speakout · 1 year ago
    Just as it is inappropriate to discuss the abortion issue with a 6-year old- equally inappropriate to discuss child rape- It would be one thing to teach your own child about inappropriate behavior from adults- But this was not my child. I was actually just amazed that either the school or his parent(s) had told him that a presidential candidate had "killed babies." Six year old children are very literal- Poor kid probably imagined all kinds of terrible things.
  • nikto · 1 year ago
    The solution is simple.

    Give the kid basic training and send her to Iraq.

    No need for her to remain so unhappy.

    Anybody who wants to go fight should be immediately drafted, IMO.

    That way, America's complainers against peace can put their asses where their mouths are & go fight in the war they love so much.


    It's really the best solution, by far.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Tell her, dry your tears, honey. There will be plenty of wars for you to fight when you are seventeen and can join the army!
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    After reading the article, all I could think of was the self centered and blind conversation I had with a family member recently who is part of the whole Neo-Conservative Iraq War Bu$hco. Profiteers. I have always been extremely close to this family member, and love her to death. Recently, she explained to me why she and her husband had "sacrificed" to send him over to Iraq to train Iraqi security. We've most definitely had our philosophical differences about the war, and are careful not to try to tread too deeply into the subject because it can devolve into anger and tears on her part. They just had a baby, and it was explained to me they have "sacrificed" by sending him to Iraq so that they could totally pay off their mortgage in four short years. Yes, that is what has happened with the war profiteers, folks. While soldiers get paid a tiny fraction of that of war profiteering contractors, and place their lives in danger the contractors have paid off their mortgages with their "sacrifice" with no thought to the death and destruction caused by the misdirected or mismanaged war. I don't even try to argue about it anymore. I just sit there, and think how lucky she is her baby is alive, healthy and she won't ever have to worry about making a house payment because she and her husband supported George W. Bush's folly into Iraq. Imagine paying a half million dollar home off in about four - six years? Imagine doing this while never having to leave any "safe zones" while the American troops suffer death, and innocent Iraqis suffer the upheavels, violence and destruction of war. Its personal with me when I have family who are in the midst of it, and as far as I'm concerned were on the wrong side from day one. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for their "success" but it disturbs me it was at such cost to others. It amazes me they can reconcile it all with such "moral certitude."
  • FuzzyandBlue · 1 year ago
    Boo frickity hoo.
    My little girl cried 2 yrs ago when her uncle came home from Iraq with only 2 fingers on his left hand, 3rd degree burns on his face and arm, and eyesight in only one eye.
  • bluestockton · 1 year ago
    If no one had died in Iraq, the war still would have been for nothing. Hello, National Review--Iraq did not attack us!!!!