AMERICAblog: Maine Freedom to Marry launched its new website today
Butch1
· 5 months ago
" The Catholic Church in Maine is leading the effort to get a measure on the ballot to repeal the new law" ====================================== If the Catholic church is going to be a political action party instead of a real church, they need to have their tax exempt status pulled out from underneath them. Same goes for the Mormons or any other church hiding their bigotry behind their religious status and trying to discriminate against the equal rights of others. They want to control their own flock and will not be happy until they have say over all of us. Enough is enough. Let's be able to fight fairly for our rights.
kevinbgoode
· 5 months ago
I'm assuming the NOM is sticking it's nose into the Sanford and Ensign affairs, since those two have damaged marriage to the point of making it a laughingstock. Surely they are gathering petition signatures to demand the state dissolve those bogus marriages, since forcing the public to recognize clearly adulterous affairs undermines marriage.
What? Not a peep out of the professional marriage protectors? Nothing from the Catholic Church?
Oh....I get it. It's only a public issue when same-sex couples want to exchange marriage vows and have legal protections and recognition from their government. When it's a hetero marriage gone astray, it's NOT a public issue - and the public is supposed to continue subsidizing the soul-less straight couple through hundreds of special rights laws.
bmcc69
· 5 months ago
I ask the same question - churches are 501(c)(3) non-profits. How the hell are the Catholics and the Mormons allowed to influence elections like this ? I say we get together and challenge their tax exempt status. That would take the wind out of the sails of the wingnut religious right.
nicho
· 5 months ago
Mark Sanford admits he "crossed lines" with several other women. Jeez -- just one tawdry revelation after another:
COLUMBIA, S.C. -- South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford declared his Argentine mistress his soul mate Tuesday but said he is committed to reconciling with his wife in hopes of saving his family and what is left of his political career.
Sanford, who also admitted meeting his lover more times than he had previously claimed, told The Associated Press in emotional interviews that he ''crossed lines'' with a handful of other women during 20 years of marriage.
WTF? Crossed lines? Was he fishing with them?
ezpz
· 5 months ago
So he cheated on his mistress too?
nicho
· 5 months ago
It was probably sequential polygamy.
mikeyDe
· 5 months ago
Someone quick call the pastor of Sanford's church and get him to put up a monument to the Ten Commandments in the f*#*#ing church. Maybe he and the music director can sneak out tonight and steal the one from the courthouse grounds.
What on earth do this idiots get out of their Bible study?
Blueflash
· 5 months ago
We do need to win this one. First it was activist judges when they granted us the right to marry, then it was tricky unfair legislatures when they did the same thing, but there's no gainsaying the direct voice of the people (other than saying the gays cast a spell on them). This is where our money should be going and we kill two birds with one stone by starving organizations like HRC until they get the message that business as usual is over.
kevinbgoode
· 5 months ago
Don't bet on it. Why, just a few years ago, the town of Cleveland Heights passed a referendum to establish a simple domestic partner registry - by popular vote. Almost immediately, the wingnut-funded legal organizations ran to the courts trying to get the people's vote rescinded.
They eventually lost - but they shopped for their own "activist" judges with as much fervor as they did with the Terri Schiavo the-state-has-the-right-to-dissolve-your-marriage case.
bookwrm1
· 5 months ago
According to Fred Karger, the Mormons have probably already weighed in since apparently the smarmy NOM is funded by them.
New flash: the National Organization for Marriage IS the Mormons.
Gridlock
· 5 months ago
"They've been collecting signatures for the referendum at weekend masses"
and why the fuck haven't they lost their tax exempt status?
kevinbgoode
· 5 months ago
Makes me wonder why we don't organize signature collections to de-recognize the Catholic Church as a "religious" organization, period. After their engagement in over 10,000 cases of child sexual abuse and their blatant participation in a criminal coverup, often using their power and influence to hide their activity, one wonders why they are even recognized as a "church."
cobblepot
· 5 months ago
Is it not illegal in maine for the catholics to so actively engage in politics and remain tax-exempt? Or does that only apply to candidates, not issues? Or is tax status a federal designation?
nicho
· 5 months ago
Federal -- and you can be sure the IRS is packed with Mormons, evangelicals, and other left-behinds from the Cheney/Bush years.
cobblepot
· 5 months ago
Thank you, nicho.
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nicho wrote, in response to cobblepot:
Federal -- and you can be sure the IRS is packed with Mormons, evangelicals, and other left-behinds from the Cheney/Bush years.
"...The defense secretary said one possible modification might be consider the circumstances under which a service member is "outed" in determining whether or not he or she must leave the military.
Gates offered as an example "when we're given information from someone with vengeance in mind or blackmail, somebody who has been jilted.
"If somebody is outed by a third party, does that force us to take action?" he said. "That's the kind of thing we're looking at -- seeing if there's a more humane way to apply the law until it gets changed."
Gates can spare me his bull sh*t! He sounds like Reagan blaming gays for getting AIDS but not those Hemophiliac children who got it at no fault of their own.
I think the weasels who out gays in the service should be discharged as well if the gays are going to be thrown out. No one likes a snitch, the lowest form of scum there is since they have no honor or character.
I expect the A-Listers would applaud this "break-through" as monumental and clap themselves silly.
nicho
· 5 months ago
It's probably best to avoid mentioning the "A-listers" and "clap" in the same sentence. It brings up so many unpleasant memories for them.
Butch1
· 5 months ago
LOL!! Loved it.
ezpz
· 5 months ago
Oh, wrong thread to post this. Sorry.
Gridlock
· 5 months ago
So we WON'T drown witches, we'll just burn them or put them on the rack. That's more humane.
- Salem witch hunter.
Blueflash
· 5 months ago
Give me a break, Gates. As if personal motivations of one kind or another haven't been part of the equation all along. Gays don't usually spend their time announcing their sexual orientation, let alone in a regimented environment like the military, or making things uncomfortable for straights in any way. The vast majority of us go out of our way to avoid even the slightest hint of impropriety toward heterosexuals of our own sex. Maybe they could have thought of enforcing a "Don't Snitch, Don't Pursue" rule when the policy was instituted. Except that some in the military at the time were delighted that the new law effectively made it officially open season on the gays. Witch hunts are never good for morale or cohesion in the long run. You'd think that after almost four hundred years since the days of the Massachusetts Bay Colony we Americans would have learned that lesson once and for all.
Oh, the Mormons are here now. My office mate, who has to listen to my political ranting, was accosted to sign against this by a group outside a grocery store last weekend. He has been listening to me, I guess, because he asked where they were from, and they all replied, somewhat reluctantly, "Utah."
Mike
· 5 months ago
"While the gay A-listers were having a party, real activists are actually trying to further the cause and save marriage equality."
You do realize that some of the Maine folk were at the White House Event, right?
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The Catholic Church in Maine is leading the effort to get a measure on the ballot to repeal the new law"
======================================
If the Catholic church is going to be a political action party instead of a real church, they need to have their tax exempt status pulled out from underneath them. Same goes for the Mormons or any other church hiding their bigotry behind their religious status and trying to discriminate against the equal rights of others. They want to control their own flock and will not be happy until they have say over all of us. Enough is enough. Let's be able to fight fairly for our rights.
What? Not a peep out of the professional marriage protectors? Nothing from the Catholic Church?
Oh....I get it. It's only a public issue when same-sex couples want to exchange marriage vows and have legal protections and recognition from their government. When it's a hetero marriage gone astray, it's NOT a public issue - and the public is supposed to continue subsidizing the soul-less straight couple through hundreds of special rights laws.
COLUMBIA, S.C. -- South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford declared his Argentine mistress his soul mate Tuesday but said he is committed to reconciling with his wife in hopes of saving his family and what is left of his political career.
Sanford, who also admitted meeting his lover more times than he had previously claimed, told The Associated Press in emotional interviews that he ''crossed lines'' with a handful of other women during 20 years of marriage.
WTF? Crossed lines? Was he fishing with them?
What on earth do this idiots get out of their Bible study?
They eventually lost - but they shopped for their own "activist" judges with as much fervor as they did with the Terri Schiavo the-state-has-the-right-to-dissolve-your-marriage case.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/fred-karger/is-th...
and why the fuck haven't they lost their tax exempt status?
wendy
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However knowing Maine as I do (They voted for Susan Collins three times!) I'm not very hopeful...
"...The defense secretary said one possible modification might be consider the circumstances under which a service member is "outed" in determining whether or not he or she must leave the military.
Gates offered as an example "when we're given information from someone with vengeance in mind or blackmail, somebody who has been jilted.
"If somebody is outed by a third party, does that force us to take action?" he said.
"That's the kind of thing we're looking at -- seeing if there's a more humane way to apply the law until it gets changed."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090630/pl_afp/usg...
A "humane" way to discriminate.
Wow, just wow.
I think the weasels who out gays in the service should be discharged as well if the gays are going to be thrown out. No one likes a snitch, the lowest form of scum there is since they have no honor or character.
I expect the A-Listers would applaud this "break-through" as monumental and clap themselves silly.
Sorry.
- Salem witch hunter.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_minnesota_senate
You do realize that some of the Maine folk were at the White House Event, right?