AMERICAblog: Man who got blowjob in Oval Office says we mock voters
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
"She thinks you've got as much right to have your say as anybody else."
Well, isn't that special?
grandma
· 1 year ago
Clyburn: Would Clinton Get Only 8 Percent Of the Black Vote?
......Senator Clinton said the following: that "Senator Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again," and "whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me." "There is a pattern emerging here," she said. What's your reaction to that quote?
Clyburn: "Well, I don't think that carries any more weight than anyone who will argue that the fact that she only got 8 percent of the African-American vote in North Carolina indicates that she cannot get African-American votes in the general election............If we buy into that, and we buy into the conventional wisdom that no Democrat wins the presidency getting only 8 percent of the African-American vote, then what does that to say for her prospects in the fall?"
Later, he explains why he's neutral, sounding very non-neutral and very much of a mind to believe that if the "graybeards" -- the superdelegates -- take the nomination away from Barack Obama, there'll be consequences.
"-- these young people are looking at me, saying, are you graybeards in this party getting ready to go into some room somewhere and nullify everything we did in this campaign?"
Well, here's one white working class woman who thinks she was right about the Clintons after the truth came out about Bill and his womanizing and what they've been up to since he left office. I'm sick of these "insiders" getting away with what they do while the rest of us get the nightstick on the backs of our heads for just being who we are.
A pox on them. Period. Go Obama!
lov446
· 1 year ago
Yes, and the reality is that it is Clinton and his wife, that are the ones laughing at them in W.V., counting on their simple minds in order to fool them into thinking that they are actually sincere in wanting to help, but in fact are just pandering for votes!! I am mad at Pelosi and Reid, for their seemingly fear of the Clintons!! What wimps they have all become!! I say again, that no one should vote for the Clintons, they have destroyed their credibility, and can not earn any votes because of that. Voting for them just because they are democrat is not a good enough reason, much like bribery or perhaps some form of ransom, (if you don't vote for them, McCain could win theme). I say, if McCain wins it is the fault of the dem. party letting this type of campaign continue, and they should never expect voters to vote just because they supposedly represent the party; which these 2 people do not!! We have to take a stand to let the party leaders realize how serious this is, and they can't just depend on all of us voting for Hillalry just because we have too!! NONO, this can't be a bribery, (her or else.) I will be forced to take a stand, and not vote at all, and that is what Pelosi and Reid deserve, a loss if they let her continue to destroy Barack or even worse they steal the nomination from him. I am outraged!
jr
· 1 year ago
NAFTA, Telecommunications Act, repealing the Glass-Steagall Act- Bill Clinton was one of the biggest corporatist presidents ever while we defended his adultery
grandma
· 1 year ago
Obama overtakes Clinton in superdelegate endorsements for the first time.
You can say it Hillary....c'mon...just 3 little words: "I give up"
kevinbgoode
· 1 year ago
"And, you know, they make a lot of fun of me because I like to campaign in places like this, they say I have been exiled to rural America, as if that was a problem". . .Ex-President Clinton
So, Bill. . .why the hell is your sorry ass parked in the middle of New York City with your carpetbagging senator wife. . .when y'all could have moved back to Arkansas and that rural America your professional lyin' ass claims you love so very much? At this point, there is simply no excuse for the way the Clintons are campaigning - sure she wants to win - EVERYBODY wants to win. . .but what is increasingly irritating me is that they don't care how they win (a particularly Republican trait that spells MORE-OF-THE-SAME) and they will feed the flames of any division possible to try to snag just enough delegates to claim an entitlement. No one has ever said that people in this primary process don't have a voice - except the Clintons, who claim that the only voices that should count are the ones voting for Hillary. The rest of us, apparently, in typical Clinton badlisting fashion, can go to hell. With that being said, maybe it's time someone ask the Clinton camp exactly why anyone who didn't vote for her in the primary should ever vote for her in the general election? She would offer those people nothing but bitter, divisive, nasty blacklisting while those elitists she apparently has made promises to at the beginning of this campaign will be peeling grapes in the Lincoln Bedroom. How many of those West Virginia coal mining families would be at the inaugural ball?
I think one fact keeps repeating itself over and over and over in this campaign. Hillary Clinton has had perhaps the distinct advantage of the most easily recognizable face to campaign on, with an ex-President husband and a well-known daughter. THREE of them campaigning relentlessly, often on their own elitist-earned money (which ain't comin' from no Bill doin' manual labor) and she could not seal the deal.
Now I just get the feeling that the Clintons are trying to FORCE us to accept Hillary as a nominee, whether the numbers say she deserves it or has earned it or not. That speaks volumes for what kind of presidency she would offer - which sounds increasingly like an extension of the Bush dictatorship.
grandma
· 1 year ago
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ST. PAUL, Minn. - The man picked by the John McCain campaign to run the 2008 Republican National Convention resigned Saturday after a report that his lobbying firm used to represent the military regime in Myanmar.
grandma, you always have the best dirt! Bless the star-tribune
The phrase, "The End is Near," takes on new meaning as far as the Clintons are concerned.
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
Both Clintons want to be in the White House again SO much that they don't see how they are currently destroying their legacies, and probably even killing their capacity to make much more money on speeches and books. They better hold on to whatever money they have now, because there may not ever be much more coming in after this.
This is the kind of tragedy that great plays are written about.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
He also allegedly raped one money and sexually harrassed another.
Not to mention using state troopers to ocver up his trists with another.
Cora
· 1 year ago
Here's a 61 year old black woman who loved the Clintons and forgave them their many transgressions. I even wrote to Hillary when she was First Lady and suggested she consider running for President. I still have her response. All I can say is they had us fooled. All this time, we, American Blacks, thought that the Clintons were in our corner. When all the while, they simply had us cornered. What a pair of racist, no-class, down and dirty criminals. Why would anyone want them anywhere near the White House?
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Um, raped one WOMAN.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Oh, and he lied to the voters about Gennifler Flowers.
That is documented because he had to admit his affair with her as part of his plea agreement.
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
I agree with you 100%, Cora.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Maybe they want to raise some more cash by renting out the Lincoln Bedroom again.
grandma
· 1 year ago
just read this in NY Times Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s top advisers are making the rounds this Sunday, presumably to assure Democrats that she’s still “in it to win it.”
Win what?...Obama has the popular vote, the delegates and the super delegates.
Chipmaker
· 1 year ago
Quitters never win, and winners never quit, but those who never win AND never quit are idiots.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
And, one other thing:
The Clinton Legacy is bullshit anyway.
Most of the good times were because Bush Sr. bit the bullet and raised taxes to pay off Reagan's deficit.
Clinton:
1. Signed the law deregulating the banks that caused the current bank crises.
2. Didn't stop the oil company megamergers that are part of the reason gas prices are so hight.
3. Didn't stop telecom consolidation and, in fact, his wife wants to give the Internet to the telecoms.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Speaking as a "hardworking white American," Clinton makes me sick.
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Some past history...How many more women who never complained or were forced not to?
And Hillary protected him all these years? What a feminist she is [snark].
High Crimes & Misdemeanors
· 1 year ago
Wow John, I recall some post you did ,several years back, how you were cooing over Bill Clinton and his meeting and some internet blogging tet'tet meeting. But I understand your feelings. I too am pissed at the Clintons. Something terrible has happend to them. They chnaged course right before 911, and then of course "911 changed everything" They have certainly bought the neo-liberalism farm. Thier shackin' up with the boooshes is just to much of a give away. Either they have been bribed or extorted, or they may actually believe all the shit they are saying???
Both are scary. Anyways, I understand your frusteration with them.
This whole Clinton skuttle-butt is just to fishy, something bigger is going on, and I'm trying to wrap my fingers around it... will post later on that.....
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John Aravosis
· 1 year ago
High Crimes, I liked Bill Clinton as president, other than his incredibly poor judgment with the Monica thing. I liked Hillary too. Now they're both acting like assholes. I don't see any inconsistency, and I'd think that most people share my view - liked em before,can't stand em now.
debrazza
· 1 year ago
The party and the superdelegates should be ashamed of themselves. This lack of spine and backbone is exactly what is wrong with this party. It is time in no uncertain terms to show these folks the door. It is time for folks inside the party to start playing hardball with their donors and consultants. If they persist in keeping this up, they should all be ruined within the party. No more work, no more lobbying gigs, nothing.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
I'm inclined to resist turning against Bill because he was a pretty good president and the economy chugged right along, for the most part. Of course, there was that moment in 1992 when the asshole threw the gay community under the bus with that don't-ask-don't-tell bullshit. I won't forgive that. Ever. Why should I?
High Crimes & Misdemeanors
· 1 year ago
Indigo,
The day he waged his finger at the audience and said: "911 was not an inside job" was the day he officially became part of the conspiracy to murder 3000+ people. That was a planned statement. They want you to think otherwise, There are to many questions gone unanswered, omitted, cajoled and lied about. Isn't that odd that he made that statement? I don't recall one MSM traitorous punk who picked up on that little nugget. Jeeee, I wonder why?
Indigo
· 1 year ago
HIgh Crimes & Misdmnrs, Thinking about it after the fact, I'm concerned that when he said "911 was not an inside job" the fact that he felt he had to say that is evidence suggesting that, yes, it was an inside job.
bkmn
· 1 year ago
I have a sneaky feeling that Bill & Hill have made some serious commitments to some of their major donors that they shouldn't have...some appointments, promises to get certain laws changed/passed, and other shady, BushCheneyCo type of under the desk deals. Now these donors are pissed and they want what they paid for.
Combine that with dual egos gone wild and staffers that isolate you from the real world (kinda like W, huh?) and you have the Clintons in current times.
paulko
· 1 year ago
The positive aspect to this is that the Democratic party HAS divisions and not all people think alike unlike the Republican party where they all have been created from the same evil handbook and mold. Go OBAMA!
Chimpeach
· 1 year ago
I liked Clinton too, voted for him twice. Now he makes my skin crawl, much like Bush does to my formerly republican mother who voted for that viper twice. (though for different reasons). Bill Clinton is a pig and his wife is a narcissistic termagant.
shanobama
· 1 year ago
John said it right. I voted for Bill twice. Have been completely gobsmacked by their campaign. Stunned, really.
Does he know how much harm he is doing? And who is this "they" he keeps talking about? they say, well, who said that?
And this statement, "you need a president", is he talking about himself or Hillary? Because he is the only one of the two who has had that title.
Swami_Binkinanda
· 1 year ago
It is my firm belief that anybody who can get the business done while getting a hummer from a pudgy but not unattractive nymphette not only deserves the presidency but should be the beneficiary of the repeal of the anti-FDR bitter grapes constitutional amendment that prevented him from seeking a third term. And if you think the pillow fight attacks by the Clintons are bad, wait until you see the overtly racial hate speech that the GOP will produce for the big show.
kevinbgoode
· 1 year ago
Everybody already knows the GOP will say anything hateful . . .especially when they have nothing to campaign on this year. Nothing. They can't afford to discuss the issues, because they've created most of them and the American people know it.
TomJoad
· 1 year ago
It's sad. All the Clinton folk now are are "entitelists". Bill and Hillary think the US owes them big-time. Paraphrasing Kurt Vonnegut, lord help us from "smart" people.
The ills of this world are mainly some human being thinking he or she KNOWS more than anyone else, and that they can "fix" some problem....to the point where their feedback sensor shut down. It is the whole problem with Bush, he just "thinks" something ought to be some way or other, and doesn't accept that it isn't, or entertain the thought that he just might be wrong. Bill and Hillary decided they were going to be a dynasty.
Sorry Charlie, that boat won't float.
bkmn
· 1 year ago
grandma...we should have coffee sometime...i am in the cities every weekend...
stardustguy
· 1 year ago
Girl, get a grip. Tone down the rhetoric please or you will become just as bad as he is.
vwcat
· 1 year ago
It's time to get on the email to the party leaders, DNC and supers and tell them no more. The Clintons were not going to be shut down if they promised not to smear Obama and have broken that promise. It is time to shut them down and the supers better get a spine and do what they said they would if the Clintons went after Obama.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
Ha! I wonder if he's going to make comments like that here in Redmond, OR tomorrow. Sen. Obama was next door in Bend today, and Clinton is probably drawing some erroneous conclusion that because the one city is sort of yuppyish, the neighbor must be blue color, white and bigoted. Nothing could be further from the truth because the differences between the two are not that stark. He'll probably insult Redmond residents, but I have no interest in listening to him.
The Clinton Twofer talk lately gives proof of the perception out there that she is polarizing and divisive. I have nothing against the poor white uneducated except perhaps for their bigotry, but I think it's about time that they cease to be the overriding demographic who chooses our leaders. Look where it has landed us. It's time to select a president who is the best and the brightest, not one who reflects the lowest common denominator.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
I'm still going to give the guy, Bill Clinton, a pass over his private sexual encounters since he never claimed to be "Mr. Family Values," BUT I'm getting really pissed at the Clintons, lately, for other reasons. The biggest would be the whole lying about Bosnia sniper fire which probably lost the race for HIllary. Why did she lie? It really showed she lacked character and destroyed her entire argument she should be the one taking the "3 a.m. call." She simply did it TO HERSELF, and she needs to be a BIG GIRL about it, and magnanimously support Obama. The Clintons have no one to blame but themselves and they need to realize ITS OVER and time to support the party which has given them SO VERY MUCH! NOW!
All Comments
Well, isn't that special?
......Senator Clinton said the following: that "Senator Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again," and "whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me." "There is a pattern emerging here," she said. What's your reaction to that quote?
Clyburn:
"Well, I don't think that carries any more weight than anyone who will argue that the fact that she only got 8 percent of the African-American vote in North Carolina indicates that she cannot get African-American votes in the general election............If we buy into that, and we buy into the conventional wisdom that no Democrat wins the presidency getting only 8 percent of the African-American vote, then what does that to say for her prospects in the fall?"
Later, he explains why he's neutral, sounding very non-neutral and very much of a mind to believe that if the "graybeards" -- the superdelegates -- take the nomination away from Barack Obama, there'll be consequences.
"-- these young people are looking at me, saying, are you graybeards in this party getting ready to go into some room somewhere and nullify everything we did in this campaign?"
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/20...
A pox on them. Period. Go Obama!
I am mad at Pelosi and Reid, for their seemingly fear of the Clintons!! What wimps they have all become!! I say again, that no one should vote for the Clintons, they have destroyed their credibility, and can not earn any votes because of that. Voting for them just because they are democrat is not a good enough reason, much like bribery or perhaps some form of ransom, (if you don't vote for them, McCain could win theme).
I say, if McCain wins it is the fault of the dem. party letting this type of campaign continue, and they should never expect voters to vote just because they supposedly represent the party; which these 2 people do not!!
We have to take a stand to let the party leaders realize how serious this is, and they can't just depend on all of us voting for Hillalry just because we have too!! NONO, this can't be a bribery, (her or else.)
I will be forced to take a stand, and not vote at all, and that is what Pelosi and Reid deserve, a loss if they let her continue to destroy Barack or even worse they steal the nomination from him. I am outraged!
http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/pr...
woooo hooooooo....Obama !!
So, Bill. . .why the hell is your sorry ass parked in the middle of New York City with your carpetbagging senator wife. . .when y'all could have moved back to Arkansas and that rural America your professional lyin' ass claims you love so very much?
At this point, there is simply no excuse for the way the Clintons are campaigning - sure she wants to win - EVERYBODY wants to win. . .but what is increasingly irritating me is that they don't care how they win (a particularly Republican trait that spells MORE-OF-THE-SAME) and they will feed the flames of any division possible to try to snag just enough delegates to claim an entitlement.
No one has ever said that people in this primary process don't have a voice - except the Clintons, who claim that the only voices that should count are the ones voting for Hillary. The rest of us, apparently, in typical Clinton badlisting fashion, can go to hell.
With that being said, maybe it's time someone ask the Clinton camp exactly why anyone who didn't vote for her in the primary should ever vote for her in the general election? She would offer those people nothing but bitter, divisive, nasty blacklisting while those elitists she apparently has made promises to at the beginning of this campaign will be peeling grapes in the Lincoln Bedroom. How many of those West Virginia coal mining families would be at the inaugural ball?
I think one fact keeps repeating itself over and over and over in this campaign. Hillary Clinton has had perhaps the distinct advantage of the most easily recognizable face to campaign on, with an ex-President husband and a well-known daughter. THREE of them campaigning relentlessly, often on their own elitist-earned money (which ain't comin' from no Bill doin' manual labor) and she could not seal the deal.
Now I just get the feeling that the Clintons are trying to FORCE us to accept Hillary as a nominee, whether the numbers say she deserves it or has earned it or not. That speaks volumes for what kind of presidency she would offer - which sounds increasingly like an extension of the Bush dictatorship.
ST. PAUL, Minn. - The man picked by the John McCain campaign to run the 2008 Republican National Convention resigned Saturday after a report that his lobbying firm used to represent the military regime in Myanmar.
http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/pr...
The phrase, "The End is Near," takes on new meaning as far as the Clintons are concerned.
This is the kind of tragedy that great plays are written about.
Not to mention using state troopers to ocver up his trists with another.
That is documented because he had to admit his affair with her as part of his plea agreement.
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s top advisers are making the rounds this Sunday, presumably to assure Democrats that she’s still “in it to win it.”
Win what?...Obama has the popular vote, the delegates and the super delegates.
The Clinton Legacy is bullshit anyway.
Most of the good times were because Bush Sr. bit the bullet and raised taxes to pay off Reagan's deficit.
Clinton:
1. Signed the law deregulating the banks that caused the current bank crises.
2. Didn't stop the oil company megamergers that are part of the reason gas prices are so hight.
3. Didn't stop telecom consolidation and, in fact, his wife wants to give the Internet to the telecoms.
http://cbn2.tripod.com/rape.html
And Hillary protected him all these years? What a feminist she is [snark].
Both are scary. Anyways, I understand your frusteration with them.
This whole Clinton skuttle-butt is just to fishy, something bigger is going on, and I'm trying to wrap my fingers around it... will post later on that.....
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The day he waged his finger at the audience and said: "911 was not an inside job" was the day he officially became part of the conspiracy to murder 3000+ people. That was a planned statement. They want you to think otherwise, There are to many questions gone unanswered, omitted, cajoled and lied about. Isn't that odd that he made that statement? I don't recall one MSM traitorous punk who picked up on that little nugget. Jeeee, I wonder why?
Thinking about it after the fact, I'm concerned that when he said "911 was not an inside job" the fact that he felt he had to say that is evidence suggesting that, yes, it was an inside job.
Combine that with dual egos gone wild and staffers that isolate you from the real world (kinda like W, huh?) and you have the Clintons in current times.
Does he know how much harm he is doing? And who is this "they" he keeps talking about? they say, well, who said that?
And this statement, "you need a president", is he talking about himself or Hillary? Because he is the only one of the two who has had that title.
And if you think the pillow fight attacks by the Clintons are bad, wait until you see the overtly racial hate speech that the GOP will produce for the big show.
Paraphrasing Kurt Vonnegut, lord help us from "smart" people.
The ills of this world are mainly some human being thinking he or she KNOWS more than anyone else, and that they can "fix" some problem....to the point where their feedback sensor shut down. It is the whole problem with Bush, he just "thinks" something ought to be some way or other, and doesn't accept that it isn't, or entertain the thought that he just might be wrong. Bill and Hillary decided they were going to be a dynasty.
Sorry Charlie, that boat won't float.
The Clinton Twofer talk lately gives proof of the perception out there that she is polarizing and divisive. I have nothing against the poor white uneducated except perhaps for their bigotry, but I think it's about time that they cease to be the overriding demographic who chooses our leaders. Look where it has landed us. It's time to select a president who is the best and the brightest, not one who reflects the lowest common denominator.