I seem to recall Americablog reporrting that Clinton needed to win Pennsylvania by 10 points, that anything less than a double digit win was a loss, because Clinton had been expected to win Pennsylvania by 20 points. In other words, Clinton never really won Pennsylvania because she didn't beat the spread -- even though she won by almost 10 points.
Now, Obama had been ahead in NC by 20 points, and the current polls suggest that lead has shrunk to single digits. So, using Americablog's own standards, if Obama does not win NC by double digits it's a loss for him.
If Obama wins NC by single digits and people dismiss his victory, I suggest Americablog be the first to accept the responsibility. for the spin. Dare I say Americablog's chickens will have come home to roost?
ericgoldman hate to burst your bubble but,Hill is waaaaaaaaaaaaay behind,Obama is the frontrunner and can coast to the finish line!
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
It's 6:30 p.m. on the Left Coast and my husband just walked in and said that CNN, of all things, says that the latest poll from IN shows Clinton 48, Obama 44. This is very good from CNN and bears out what Kos is saying, that the polls in IN are moving in Obama's favor. I am not expecting an upset, but the closer he gets, the better it is. Conversely for NC. Kos thinks it won't even be close, and I hope Obama's numbers just keep growing there.
BTW, I'd just like to make a comment on dad's comment a few floors down. He is so right about there being a civil war in the Democratic Party (between the DNC with the grassroots and the Clintons with the DLC). It should have been stopped before. dad's comments are usually spot on in my opinion.
vwcat
· 1 year ago
It's not just the clintons that will spin that line. Pennsylvania was always a Clinton state and yet the media managed to make it Obama's fault that he lost. So, if he wins NC by 30 and she wins Indiana by 2, the media will shout out what a glorious victory for Hillary and what a loser obama is.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
The Democrats have a slight chance of winning NC in November, no chance of winning Indiana.
So, if any state doesn't matter, it's the one Hillary will win tomorrow.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
BTW, John, Politico is saying with a straight face what you are saying sarcastically, that Indiana changes everything and North Carolina doesn't matter. Who is Ben Smith, a Clinton shill?
redd123
· 1 year ago
Edwards was a trial lawyer, meaning he actually had to argue to a jury his case and win. His wife from my understanding was a corporate lawyer. Edwards knows just how far one can push a jury, while his wife being able to be sucessful as a woman doesn't have a clue as to how or what can move a jury to render a verdict, let alone the country to move in another direction. Is this sexist, you bet it is. Yet, as one who has worked on many trials for civil rights, women have been the worst jurors in history. I find it comical that now, women find their voice. One shoud note that Clinton did the most horrendous thing when she was a young lawyer, as a defense lawyer for a rapist of a minor, she blamed the victim. She used her gender to argue,[by merely representing the perp.] and then trashed the victim. [No one is forced to take a case. She willingly represented this ass(^$)] So,I find it comical that Clinton is now the great feminist. One would be suprised how many women in the legal profession, profess they are for civil rights, yet they represent the preps, or the employers when it comes to sexual discrimination or harassment. It's no coincidence that lawyers in the movies based on civil rights, are mostly women who work for the defendants. It's that way in life. Clinton is no different, she thinks she had it hard, I'm sure Elizabeth thinks she encountered discrimination, yet where were both of these women on the front line in front of a jury. [Mostly on the wrong side.] They rose to fame on the backs of the persecution of women. Edwards at least in a court room, put his mouth were his money was. That takes guts and integrity. I have yet to see that in the Clintons, or their "women backers"!!!!!!!
alexa
· 1 year ago
bogeydog I've searched but can't find a source that says she was a defense lawyer. Where did you read this?
SociologistTina
· 1 year ago
LOL!
SociologistTina
· 1 year ago
Bush Bites: "The Democrats have a slight chance of winning NC in November, no chance of winning Indiana.
So, if any state doesn't matter, it's the one Hillary will win tomorrow."
Wow! Extremely interesting point, and probably correct.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
One shoud note that Clinton did the most horrendous thing when she was a young lawyer, as a defense lawyer for a rapist of a minor, she blamed the victim.
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Hadn't heard that before, but I'm not surprised.
From everything I've read, she was the one pushing hardest to destroy Kathleen Willie, Paula Jones and Anita Broderick when they went public with their stories about Bubba being a sexual predator.
LeslieB
· 1 year ago
That twit Norah O'Donnell was on Dan Abrams tonight saying Clinton could possibly win the nomination if she wins North Carolina and Indiana. None of the other "pundits" contradicted her either, you know, with facts. Why would the news report facts anyway, facts are passe, they're so old-fashioned, they're so liberal, facts make you sound as if you have something between your ears.
Smarmy
· 1 year ago
With the exception of Illinois, I have never seen such abstract stupidity out of American people in my life. These same Hillary voters, are the ones who put Bush in office and liked him. They don't need recognition or applause, they need extermination.
chandler_in_lasvegas
· 1 year ago
. . I just heard that the Obama campaign is floating the name of Sam Nunn for VP. What the fucking fuckety fuck is THAT about? Could there be a greater gay hating DINO in America? He's the one that turned the wonderful Democratic Congress against Clinton and how we got DADT. The fucker deserves to stay retired. If Obama has to pull somebody out of retirement why not Dick Gephardt? Fucking SAM NUNN? Obama/Nunn, if it comes to that I am deleting ABlog from my bookmarks.
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john, thanks for finally understanding.
WE'RE RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICH GOD BLESS US!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N64fDLplBfQ&feat...
Now, Obama had been ahead in NC by 20 points, and the current polls suggest that lead has shrunk to single digits. So, using Americablog's own standards, if Obama does not win NC by double digits it's a loss for him.
If Obama wins NC by single digits and people dismiss his victory, I suggest Americablog be the first to accept the responsibility. for the spin. Dare I say Americablog's chickens will have come home to roost?
http://edition.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king....
hate to burst your bubble but,Hill is waaaaaaaaaaaaay behind,Obama is the frontrunner and can coast to the finish line!
BTW, I'd just like to make a comment on dad's comment a few floors down. He is so right about there being a civil war in the Democratic Party (between the DNC with the grassroots and the Clintons with the DLC). It should have been stopped before. dad's comments are usually spot on in my opinion.
So, if he wins NC by 30 and she wins Indiana by 2, the media will shout out what a glorious victory for Hillary and what a loser obama is.
So, if any state doesn't matter, it's the one Hillary will win tomorrow.
It's that way in life. Clinton is no different, she thinks she had it hard, I'm sure Elizabeth thinks she encountered discrimination, yet where were both of these women on the front line in front of a jury. [Mostly on the wrong side.] They rose to fame on the backs of the persecution of women. Edwards at least in a court room, put his mouth were his money was. That takes guts and integrity. I have yet to see that in the Clintons, or their "women backers"!!!!!!!
I've searched but can't find a source that says she was a defense lawyer. Where did you read this?
So, if any state doesn't matter, it's the one Hillary will win tomorrow."
Wow! Extremely interesting point, and probably correct.
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Hadn't heard that before, but I'm not surprised.
From everything I've read, she was the one pushing hardest to destroy Kathleen Willie, Paula Jones and Anita Broderick when they went public with their stories about Bubba being a sexual predator.
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I just heard that the Obama campaign is floating the name of Sam Nunn for VP. What the fucking fuckety fuck is THAT about? Could there be a greater gay hating DINO in America? He's the one that turned the wonderful Democratic Congress against Clinton and how we got DADT. The fucker deserves to stay retired. If Obama has to pull somebody out of retirement why not Dick Gephardt? Fucking SAM NUNN? Obama/Nunn, if it comes to that I am deleting ABlog from my bookmarks.