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sheesh.
Why do I get the feeling that Sarah's moose shooting gun might have something to do with this wedding?
She is turning out to be quite adept at lying.
I don't care if Bristol is pregnant, does crack on the side, whatever, it's her life, but I do find it disturbing to paint Palin and her family as some symbol of conservative values and clearly Bristol didn't get all the lectures. So, I wish Bristol a happy and safe pregnancy, and I hope the bloggers and democrats find an effective way to ram this down the throats of all the "family values" hypocrits (Sorry, politics ain't nice sometimes).
Hopefully it will bring up the debate about contraceptives to teenagers. It is also will cut funding to any stupid abstinence only programs.
I couldnt be happier.
very Rovian.
On a different level, this is exactly the kind of reaction that in the long run will only help the GOP. Let the GOP contort how this is not a bad thing, if the Dems directly criticize Bristol we will come across as looking vindictive and frankly, just plain mean.
IMO its OK to raise the conflict this situation presents to the whole "family values" arguement, but to simply do name-calling is really counter-productive.
This is obviously some kind of cover up, under the hurricane umbrella. Since rumors are getting louder that Palins son is really her grandson, it looks like they are bringing up this pregnancy, hoping the other story will get lost in the new story.
Typical. Republican. hypocrisy. Lies. cover-ups. disaster.
Yes, she would be a good VP for the republican party.
Lies built on lies are like a house built on sand. Once the foundation shifts, the whole thing comes down. Lets hope that people see through this soon enough to simply say no to this potential disaster for our country.
Hurricane Gus fizzled....unless you belive FOX News. They need you to believe conditions are perfect for levee failure.
There's lots of oil under NOLA.
I guess they just locked up the jamie lynn speers vote.
How very moral to be humping away while UN-MARRIED.
Spin THAT dobson.
Yes, governor, as VP you will be there to guide your wayward daughter through her new motherhood. Maybe if you had spent more time at home and/or doing more than preaching abstinence your daughter might be finishing high school instead of a pregnancy. This is the typical hypocrisy we often see from those who preach family values and loudly disdain minority girls' loose morals if they become unwed teenage mothers.
Posted by katjam
Oh, and by the way Sarah, tell me again about how good those abstinence only programs are...
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
How is the Dobson crowd going to explain this?
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There is a reason why Palin has had a press conference since the announcement that she was going to be VP.
I really never understood this association with moral superiority and Republicans. They may go to church more, but does that make someone more moral? It has clouded their judgment and they only care about a few issues, abortion, gay marriage and people that are not Christian. They are also super nationalistic. Once again, a bj in the oval office is not moral, but lying to the country and going to war somehow is moral. Lying itself is not moral and this administration is been more secretive than any other before it. And we can expect the same from a McCain Administration.
2. "made the decision on her own" to keep the baby...Good thing, considering her parents wouldn't have it any other way.
3. Five months along....Hm....so she got pregnant while she had mono? That the was the reason she wasn't in school, right? Because she had mono...hope the boyfriend didn't catch it.
4. Wonder what else McCain didn't consider to be that big a deal in his 'vetting' of Palin...
I think it is wise for the Obama campaign to have made little or no statement about this...again, taking the high road. This will burn itself out shortly.
Palin is McCain's Harriet Miers.
When a candidate's opponent is shooting himself, candidate should step back and shut up.
Unbelievable. How nice that she had a CHOICE. It's also been widely reported that Sarah Palin made the CHOICE not to abort. So now that they've made their personal choices, every other woman should be prevented from making her own choice? Give me a break.
Guess Governors have a right to privacy....the citizens don't.
Nothing secretive about that.
Did McCain know she was pregnant again?
So, any way one views it, it smells really, really bad: either Sarah Palin is lying about who the mother of her youngest child is, or she didn't know that her teenaged daughter was engaging in unprotected sex. When did Bristol turn 17, anyway? I guess that IOKIYAR. But it really makes it clearer that Palin isn't prepared to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
http://www.adn.com/money/story/400884.html
Palin has given us another example of "Right to Lifer's" hypocrisy - they don't care about the baby, just the morality behind the conception.
Think McCain is rethinking his VP? Nope remember he was quoted as saying he made quick decisions and then lives with the consequences.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTbsbeY5k5k
A great video in which the Pundits are being truthful before her actual nomination!
Let's see how they spin it this week.
However, if the daughter was previously preganant, I suspect that the Enquier will pay someone lots of money for the real scoop if there is one and it will come out.
Wouldn't Dobson want someone watching over her and not giving her the Katrina treatment?
What a shitty mother and mathemetician Sarah is.
Now we see that my brother's Rethug in-law was onto something. When McCain moves in, will Palin skin Caribou and hang the carcass out on the porch of the White House?
They used Pawlenty making him think he was the VP pick until the very last minute. So given this cynicism what if they new Palin would blow up with all these scandals and used that? (I believe they did that with Harriet Meirs.)They got to step all over Obama's big night and cause a media frenzy for McCain. Then in the next week or so after the religious right is fully charged up for McCain, Sarah tearfully will tearfully step down to tend to her family. Pawlenty is then named. People view him as a serious candidate by contrast, McCain a wise man and a Maverick at heart who had tried naming the 1st woman to be VP. Sympathy for him as the Democrats are knocked out of kilter and are forced to Op search the new choice. Final benefit: the media not talking the issues (deadly for McCain) only the spectacle of the VP selection for most of Sept.
Where can I send my shower gift?
I would like to kick the gift giving extravaganza off by giving little baby Palin a membership in the NRA.
somebody get mittens on the phone, if he's not too miffed.
Nothing is personal about her life if she is trying to tell me how to live mine.
I speak as someone who almost died when I was pregnant due to the policies left over from the fundie Regan administration. If they want to tell me how to live my life...then their lives are fair game.
At some point you need to start asking yourself if this woman is capable of having the time to do the job given all her family problems. The fact that she is willing to put her daughter through this media frenzy, speaks volumes of her character. There will be more.
Like I have said numerous times, not only is she under qualified, she was obviously not properly vetted.
McCain is 72.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/01/palin-...
They are proud of her decision to her her baby, so if the decision was Bristol's isn't that choice.
This is not a private family matter because Palin is a VP nominee and she would overturn Roe v. Wade and she is against birth control.
unf*ckingbelievable.
...God help us.
http://www.americablog.com/2008/08/sarah-palin-...
the whole fundie christian thing is the illusion of perfection, right?
No sex before marriage (that NEVER happens, but they like to exist in a 1950's world where they believe it does)
No abortions (yeah right)
It's alllllll about an illusion. Right now, that christian illusion has been thoroughly broken, but she can't withdraw from the race. If she withdraws, it'll show that McSame's campaign is totally disorganized.
What they'll do is conveniently forget the 'no sex before marriage' stuff, and the 'abstinence' shit, and spin this into her daughter keeping the baby, and thus being pro life. Just you watch.
It'll be so much hypocrisy your head will spin, but the stupids will lap it up.
It's also unfortunately something Obama can't touch with a 20 foot pole. He cant criticize it at all, otherwise he'll be painted as a monster for going after an innocent young expectant mother. So McSame and the fundies get to do as much damage control as they want while Obama sits by and gnashes his teeth at a golden opportunity he can't do anything with.
Obama/Biden 08 in a Landslide
Talk about crap hitting the fan!
There's going to be some real pissed off fascist republican running around in the twin cities this week... may I suggest you folks just stop what your doing and go and get stone cold drunk!
Your going to need it if this turns out to be true and I'm sure it is!
I'm wondering if mom has stared looking for a coat hanger yet?
If the American woman falls for this fascist republican ploy ... watch out cause women rights are down the drain for the next 50 years and the Supreme Court will be too busy passing fascist rulings day and night for the 25 years... at least!
And the American women will have earned her reward... if you want to call it a reward!
not this gay man... I lived through that crap once and I don't want my
kid doing it!
God willing will be done with those republican fascist for a long time
to come!
But I so fear that the nation will be unable to fully embrace Obama...
maybe it just me being here in Houston to much of the time... what ever.
Forgive my rant
later
Rick
Houston/San Francisco
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She didn't make a mistake, either, she had sex. She didn't use birth control because her mommy doesn't believe in it (apparently). This is what Palin wants for all our kids, so it's great to have the visual aids of what she wants our families to look like. Palin's daughter is not the focus, her hypocritical belief system, one that she and her ilk are trying to enforce on our country, is.
What you are saying is actually very sexist. These are issues that are important to women, they are in effect, women's civil rights issues. It's hard to portray them as such because they only apply to one half of the populace, which people sometimes get confused about, but to call this stuff 'personal' is just wrong.
I had a rebellous daughter- short of locking her in the basement, I couldn't really protect her from all her bad decisions (no, her issue wasn't unmarried pregnancy) -but our little drama played out in private (the neighbors may have heard some of it.)
I'm not calling you a bad guy- just wish the commenters would show more restraint and focus on issues, not personal attacks that get echoed in the hate media to our collective detriment.
on her pro-life views, in not so many words. So, once again, put the responsbility for the 'politicization of Bristol' for this squarely where it belongs, on the shoulders of the mother
He has poor judgment, and has handled this VP situation very badly.
Not only has he made a huge mistake choosing someone unfit and unqualified, but he picked someone he did not even know. Now he call her his soul mate.
America deserves someone better. We do not need someone who not only will continue Bush's failed policies, but someone who is way over his head in dealing in simple matters. McCain's prime time was over long time ago.
5 months pregnant....back in April, when she wasn't in school because of her incredibly bad case of mono (which lasted and lasted and lasted).
I guess SuperMom and Dad were to busy trying to get their ex-brother in law fired to pay attention to the fact that their 17 year old daughter, suffering from mono, was getting busy with her boyfriend. *rolleyes*
McDolt is blaming all this dirty laundry airing on "partisan Democrats" HA!
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
If McCain knew Bristol was pregmant (as he said he did) he should have realized that the young girl would be placed in a very difficult and psychologically harmful position by all the media attention - he should have put the young girls well being before his own ambition and he should not have asked Palin to be his running mate - his decision displays incredibly poor, irresponsible and self-centered judgment.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/01...
If she is so brave, let her move out of the governors mansion, get an apartment, get a job at walmart, get an education and be responsible for herself.
wow.
It could pan out in the end that Sarah Palin will be rejected and will harm McCain because she is seen as a threat and bad example to the domestic familial morality of millions of non-fundie Americans. What an Irony!
oh well, like mother like daughter............
So, I believe it is fair to ask questions about her as a mother, such as:
What kind of mother would agree to run for VP knowing her minor child is 5 months pregnant and needs all the mothering support and help she can get?
Has she really "raised" 5 kids yet, or just given birth to 5 kids? After all, only one is over 18 and the youngest is 4 months. She still has two more daughters younger than the pregnant one.
Some people believe teen pregnancy is a cry for attention. Has Bristol gotten enough attention? She obviously hasn't been well supervised.
If Mrs. Palin was the Democtratic VP nominee, wouldn't all the Republicans be saying that she was putting her own ambition ahead of her family, which is clearly in crisis?
Ahhhh, Gov. Palin, the gift that keeps on giving!
Oh, ya gotta love the blatant hypocracy! Sarah Palin?
NO! Those who buy into this attiitude of "Normally, I would say private family matters should be off limits. HOWEVER . . ."
Let me finish the thought for you:
. . ."When it happens to the daughter of a CONSERVATIVE candidate - by all means, let's drag the brazen hussie through the political mud!"
Let's be candid here. For quite some time, you've been preaching at Republicans to lay off Barack's wife - even though she's out on the campaign trail, firing her own charges at her husband's opponent (that would be McCain).
But here we have a young girl who has privately made a mistake in judgement that will alter the course of her life. So, you slam her mother?
Ohhh...you slam her CHRISTIAN mother!"
Okay, now I get it. Christians, by your definition (not the Bible's) are expected to live perfect lives. Well, guess what? Christians fall short as often as non-Christians do. And they are no more prone to chain their daughters to the bed post, or secretly stalk them while they're out on a date - than you Democrat moms and dads would.
You think you've raised Johnny to be a good little liberal - then one day he donates his lunch money to the NRA. Well, you can't watch 'em 24/7, can you?
For decades, Republican and Democrat candidates have had sons and daughters - even an occasional Cousin Billy - but until VP Dick Cheney's grown daughter was found to be lesbian, candidate's kids were 100% off limit. Both parties honored this rule.
Now, the DNC and the news media (no names, but they seem to get a strange tingling sensation down their leg when Barack Obama enters the room) are rationalizing why it's sooooo important to drag this 17 year-old girl through the political mud? Because you believe it shows her mother to be a hypocrit? That's NOT a good excuse, in my book. There IS no excuse for this behavior.
Why would ANYBODY run for public office, when the likelihood is they would be setting their children up for public humiliation? To ensure the best women and men America has to offer will seek to serve their country, we need to stop considering their family members worthy of target practice.
Don't you agree there are far more honorable ways to wage a political campaign. I'll give the DNC a free tip: The more you use teenage Bristol Palin as political fodder, the more middle America (including many moderate Democrats) will become disgusted with you. And should the RNC begin attacking Barack and Michelle Obmama's precious little girls - may a pox be upon the Republican house.
Think about it, my AmericanBlog friends. I believe you know I'm right.