AMERICAblog: McCain is gay-baiting Obama, and it needs to stop
Sage24
· 1 year ago
OT, but Exxon Mobil just posted their quarterly profits of 11.7 billion dollars, the largest profit ever. It is unfortunate, that the American people don't realize that they have been duped. This whole business of gas prices reaching unbelievable prices, will one day, turn out to be a huge scam by the Bush/Cheney administration, to make their buddies richer by raising prices, and making the American people push for off shore drilling. It reminds me of the war drums being beaten before the Iraq war, to make the naive change their minds about not attacking Iraq.
The oil barons have taken the people in this country, for a good ride.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
Eleven point seven BILLION dollars profit in one quarter?
and no one is making any money in the oil business. what a shame.
Webster
· 1 year ago
But they're using all that money for a good cause: Advertising on teevee to tell us what great caring corporate citizens they are.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
exactly. and of course, McWarHero is one tough macho he-man daddy. dogwhistling through the graveyard...
Milli
· 1 year ago
Gay-baiting? McCain is sending Lindsey Graham to flirt with Obama?
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
I call on John McCain to confess that his senior advisors include gay men.
He should come clean about those $$$ loafers he wears, too.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
Prada?
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
$520 Ferragamo Loafers, apparently.
Õ¿Õ
· 1 year ago
People are so stupid they let their bigotry rule their decision making, fine, 8 more years of pain. It matters not to me because I'm a fancy lad.
Rab
· 1 year ago
How about the cancerous jowled one challenging Obama to a game of basketball and he could get a preview of how bad his ass is going to get kicked by this fancy lad. Repugs are really scum of the earth.
The ad can send out multiple messages: does Obama want to BE Britney and Paris (or, is like them: shallow, vain, pampered, out of touch) or does he want to F**K them (playing into a perennial stereotype: Mandingo)?
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
they send out another message. that mccain is a child and completely out of his league.
1billinnj2
· 1 year ago
john, what is the gay, dare i say it, republicans opinion on mccain? wait, is there gay republicans? wait, is there republicans that are not gay? wait, i changed my mind, i do not care what they think about mCcain. how many times do we have to be insulted by mcCain?
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
the mcStake campaign is feminizing obama. i don't see that as gay-baiting. however, the distinction may be lost on a lot of conservatives. the process is analogous to calling hillary manly. but of course the wingers also specifically said she was a lesbian (and edwards was gay).
RudigerVT
· 1 year ago
Feminizing a man and masculinizing a woman is gay-baiting.
LPR
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
no it's not. it's gender-baiting or something like that. equating femininity (in men) with gay orientation is a stereotype, as John mentioned. it is possible to mock a man's femininity without implying anything about who turns him on sexually.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
All that nancy-talk makes you wonder about Republicans as a group. In high school (1955-59) I figured out that Republicans were all sissy-types because of the way they talked. The word "gay" wasn't bandied about much in those days and Pat Booone assured us that boys didn't ever do funny stuff with other boys but I wasn't fooled by the propoganda . . . I knew that all Republicans were light in the loafers. You could tell by the way they pranced around and talked all nancy-like. Yeah, McCain's one of those. No doubt about it.
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
I am pretty sure the same guy who did the "Call Me" Harold Ford Jr. ad is responsible for this one, too. Hey, Americablog Kidz: what similarities do the two ads share? (And remember, Ford lost because of this one ad).
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
They're linking Obama with popular air heads. See, just because he's popular doesn't mean he's competent.
But wait: He graduated from Harvard Law School. Oops.
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
if you polled the world for the most popular "celebrity", you'd probably get Nelson Mandela, not Britney Spears. i don't think it's a bad thing to be popular around the world.
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
Quite true.
Still, Britney and Paris are ditzy blond icons, admittedly. Considering the target audience, this makes sense as a strategy.
Õ¿Õ
· 1 year ago
This is the most ridiculous shit I've ever been put through and this is supposed to be a presidential campaign. Never in a million years...
barts
· 1 year ago
I've noticed that Bush is less and less relevant these days to the media as the campaign has heated up. I know that the public at large has a short attention span and, hell, I would want to forget about Bush as soon as possible, too.
However, Obama campaign should know that MaCain's weaknesses and failings are all rolled up in Bush. I'd rather be associated with a couple of narcissistic harmless Blonde bimbos than with Bush.
The more that people are reminded of our current President the better.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Is he gay if he's AC/DC? I have no idea. Going to France sure wasn't a good idea. At least he had the moxie to not visit the troops at Landstuhl.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
BULL......SHIT!!!!!
:)
Busboy
· 1 year ago
What?
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
that AC/DC remark, for starters.
why wasn't going to France a good idea? Because it violated the Bill O'Reilly boycott?
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Hey, if I had a wife like Michelle? I could be ac/dc or or a vampire after dark... nobody knows.....
France is a minor league nation, not to be trusted.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
whatev
jr
· 1 year ago
McCain hangs out with Crist and Graham and is supported by Drier and Mehlman but Obama's the "gay" one
consult
· 1 year ago
I believe you when you say you get this stuff right away, because of your background and experience. You have credibility on this. That is all the more reason why you should have understood that women who have worked in women's rights for just as many years kept telling you that we could spot the sexism in the treatment of Clinton and her supporters. We had the credibility there but you refused to listen to us. Can you see the parallel? I trust you on spotting gay-baiting and I believe you. Why couldn't you have offered us some of the same respect? Like you, we know it when we see it and we too had the years of experience with it. You didn't so why couldn't you open your mind to our perspectives? This is not an angry post- its truly a question.
MenaScatshit
· 1 year ago
No, John M is NOT baiting, John A is REACHING, and it makes you look UNSERIOUS, "one issue" and a bit of a Kool Aid sipper..
He's calling the guy a dillettante, an empty suit, an UNSERIOUS person--not a gay person. And no doubt--the guy IS behaving like a male model. Like a lightweight. Like an inattentive gadfly with ADD.
That doesn't mean he's required to be gay. Unless you've got some self-esteem issues....
Where were you, John, when Hillary Clinton--who doesn't hang out with guys like Donnie McClurkin and Kirbyjon Caldwell--was being called all sorts of sexist names by Mister Obama? Where were you, John? Did you speak up for her, John? Did you? Because, you know, John, it's not nice to use sexist language and make snarky comments, or play songs like "99 Problems and a Bitch Ain't One of 'Em" at your little fundraisers....tee hee. It's not fucking funny when it's directed at YOUR constituency.
Funny, how when you perceive, even distantly, the possibility that your little ox might get gored, you get sensitive as hell. But I didn't see you step up for Clinton when Obama started using menopausal language about her. And I expected more from you--I really thought you'd step up to the plate. But you didn't. Disappointing, that.
And that kind of attacking on the part of Obama speaks to his judgment--first, by the time a woman hits sixty, she's well and truly through that menopause gate. Anyone who paid attention would know that. But most importantly, he pissed off over half the party. And a lot of them aren't getting over it. They'll vote for McCain, just to fuck Obama. They're pissed. They'll count on the Senate to keep the guy checked, and wait for Clinton in four years.
Obama did what Rove never could--he's fractured the Democratic Party--and it's a permanent break, too.
I'm no McCain fan, but I'm no Obama fan either. I couldn't believe it when you flipped like you did, especially given Obama's flipflops on issues important to you.
. You're losing perspective if you actually think McCain is gay baiting because he's calling Obama a POLITICAL lightweight. He's calling Obama an inexperienced neophyte who is more into himself than his platform. And that is how the guy comes off.
I think your thesis is way off the mark.
SarainKC
· 1 year ago
I agree with you that John might be overreacting. I am straight and not homophobic, so I may not really get all the code language used to get the bigots juiced up, but it does seem more like they are doing a really poor job in trying to make Obama look like a Hollywood weirdo with a cult following. It is not working and is almost laughable, it's so pathetic. Just like with the "terrorist fist jab" everyone should immediately start making fun of their latest attempts. Note how quick FIX got off that theme because it was turned back on them and made a laughing stock out of them.
As to you Hillary comments, you lost me. Please link to any quote directly from Obama or Axelrod or any of his top surrogates that used menopausal or sexist digs at Hillary. You can't call out John for being hyper sensitive while you seem to have the same issues. Bottom line, Hillary lost because she is not the candidate that represents change at a time when this country is starving for a 180 away from some of the policies the Clintons helped push through. (NAFTA). A vengeful v ote for McCain will insure more death in Iraq and IRAN. That's a hell of a grudge that you'd be OK with watching more people die for spite.
shanobama
· 1 year ago
Maybe he comes off as a political 'lightwieght' to former Clinton supporters, that was one of her favorite themes about Mr. Obama.
But for anyone who has done their homework on Obama, I do not see how this could be the case. The people in Germany do not think Obama is a neophyte, nor do the leaders of Iraq, Afghanistan, England, France or Germany.
This 'meme' started with Hillary, saying that she and McCain had the illusive 'Commander in Chief credentials', but Obama had a speech. Or one would have to 'ask' Obama about his 'credentials'. The majority of Democrats think Obama has the right stuff to lead this nation into the 21st century, as do leaders around the world.
Bitter Hillary supporters, and the McCain camp love to enhance, exagerate, and repeat this 'political' lightweight, 'neophyte' theme in an endless loop.
It has no basis in fact.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Somewhere, behind a curtain, is an Obama advisor who handled the "swiftboating of Hillary because of her sex. Whoever that person is; is v v good. Some pundits have even said it may be KKKarl. I doubt that to be true.
consult
· 1 year ago
I am not sure just how sarcastic you are being, but what you say is true. There is such an advisor and they did a hell of a good job.
The Rev. Bob Galloway wants to know. So does the rest of his church.
Galloway, pastor of the Metropolitan Community Church in West Knoxville, says he and his parishioners can't worship in peace until they know what's in the letter Jim David Adkisson wrote.
"The more clarity, the better," Galloway said. "We need to know what we're dealing with. Is it just liberals he was targeting? Is it just gays? Was it all these things mixed together? We need to know."
Galloway said his church serves about 180 people from around East Tennessee, about 85 percent of them gay or lesbian. Some members made a U-turn for home Sunday morning when they heard of a shooting at a liberal, gay-friendly church.
"They thought it was us," Galloway said.
I am still surprised that Obama has not made a statement about this.
NealB
· 1 year ago
"A fussy, fancy lad who flits around Europe, is prone to hysteria, and reminds you of ditzy blonde chicks."
That's one of the gay male stereotypes, but it's hard for me to believe it could stick to Obama. It just makes McCain sound like a snide, creepy old man.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Pat Buchanan, without any challenge or call for moderation, called Senator Obama "a pretty boy" on MSNBC this morning.
gallery
· 1 year ago
You can thank the NYT for giving a salary to Maureen dowd, who excels at this kind of "dog whistle" castrating of democratic leaders while making the repubs the Daddy party. They're just following her lead.
Smarmy
· 1 year ago
This Obama baiting will finally stop, the day after election day in November when he wins by a landslide and McCain is sent home to die.
Why not let Dobson et al know about the gay people on McCain's staff?
I hate to be like them, but it might force the issue if the religious nuts thought McCain really doesn't mind gay people at all when he is not lying to win an election.
sconset
· 1 year ago
John: If you know for a fact that these individuals on McCain's campaign are gay then why don't you out them? Or better yet, get ahold of Mike Roger's at Blog Active and have him out these self righteous queens.
I am a straight person but my gaydar has gone off the charts several times when his people speak for him and try to paint Obama as "elitist" etc. If your going to throw stones at people, expect to be hit back.
McCain can't talk about the economy, energy prices, education for college kids because he represents the same damned failed policies we have had for the last 8 years.
I am usually a very thoughtful and reasonable person but I would never let anyone impugn me with the abandonment that McCain's people are doing. His campaign must think that the american people are stupid.
CHARLIE_REINA
· 1 year ago
I'm glad you picked up on this, too. It's the same old Atwater/Ailes/Rove fake-out: Deny the obvious. Accuse (or suggest repeatedly) that your opponent is the opposite of what he really is, if the reality shows him to be better than you. McCain is using sexual stereotypes (and discredited, archaic ones at that) to depict himself as strong and Obama as weak, when, in reality, it's the other way around. Obama has stood tall and unflappable in the face of McCain's hissy fits over Obama's popularity and "favored treatment" by the media, which, if anything, has been nestled in McCain's pocket from Day One. Hence, Obama is "fussy" and "prone to hysterics." Obama walked through Europe with dignity, impressing citizens and leaders alike, and restoring at least some of the respect they once had for America. Therefore, Obama is a "fancy lad" (can you get more 19th Century than that?), "flitting" around Europe. Watch how often the McCain campaign and its surrogates, including Fox News Channel, use this same dishonest imagery between now and Election Day. I only hope that Obama never feels obliged to get down into the same gutter.
Stevens
· 1 year ago
First they use some "gay" descriptive words and then they open the door again for that lying SOB Larry Sinclair. McCain can't beat Obama on the issues so they resort to Rovian tactics. Despicable yet predictable.
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the largest profit ever. It is unfortunate, that the American people don't realize
that they have been duped. This whole business of gas prices reaching unbelievable prices, will one day, turn out to be a huge scam by the Bush/Cheney administration, to make their buddies richer by raising prices, and making the American people push for off shore drilling.
It reminds me of the war drums being beaten before the Iraq war, to make
the naive change their minds about not attacking Iraq.
The oil barons have taken the people in this country, for a good ride.
and no one is making any money in the oil business. what a shame.
and of course, McWarHero is one tough macho he-man daddy.
dogwhistling through the graveyard...
He should come clean about those $$$ loafers he wears, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgF39TRCPPE
LPR
But wait: He graduated from Harvard Law School. Oops.
Still, Britney and Paris are ditzy blond icons, admittedly. Considering the target audience, this makes sense as a strategy.
However, Obama campaign should know that MaCain's weaknesses and failings are all rolled up in Bush. I'd rather be associated with a couple of narcissistic harmless Blonde bimbos than with Bush.
The more that people are reminded of our current President the better.
:)
why wasn't going to France a good idea? Because it violated the Bill O'Reilly boycott?
nobody knows.....
France is a minor league nation, not to be trusted.
He's calling the guy a dillettante, an empty suit, an UNSERIOUS person--not a gay person. And no doubt--the guy IS behaving like a male model. Like a lightweight. Like an inattentive gadfly with ADD.
That doesn't mean he's required to be gay. Unless you've got some self-esteem issues....
Where were you, John, when Hillary Clinton--who doesn't hang out with guys like Donnie McClurkin and Kirbyjon Caldwell--was being called all sorts of sexist names by Mister Obama? Where were you, John? Did you speak up for her, John? Did you? Because, you know, John, it's not nice to use sexist language and make snarky comments, or play songs like "99 Problems and a Bitch Ain't One of 'Em" at your little fundraisers....tee hee. It's not fucking funny when it's directed at YOUR constituency.
Funny, how when you perceive, even distantly, the possibility that your little ox might get gored, you get sensitive as hell. But I didn't see you step up for Clinton when Obama started using menopausal language about her. And I expected more from you--I really thought you'd step up to the plate. But you didn't. Disappointing, that.
And that kind of attacking on the part of Obama speaks to his judgment--first, by the time a woman hits sixty, she's well and truly through that menopause gate. Anyone who paid attention would know that. But most importantly, he pissed off over half the party. And a lot of them aren't getting over it. They'll vote for McCain, just to fuck Obama. They're pissed. They'll count on the Senate to keep the guy checked, and wait for Clinton in four years.
Obama did what Rove never could--he's fractured the Democratic Party--and it's a permanent break, too.
I'm no McCain fan, but I'm no Obama fan either. I couldn't believe it when you flipped like you did, especially given Obama's flipflops on issues important to you.
. You're losing perspective if you actually think McCain is gay baiting because he's calling Obama a POLITICAL lightweight. He's calling Obama an inexperienced neophyte who is more into himself than his platform. And that is how the guy comes off.
I think your thesis is way off the mark.
As to you Hillary comments, you lost me. Please link to any quote directly from Obama or Axelrod or any of his top surrogates that used menopausal or sexist digs at Hillary. You can't call out John for being hyper sensitive while you seem to have the same issues. Bottom line, Hillary lost because she is not the candidate that represents change at a time when this country is starving for a 180 away from some of the policies the Clintons helped push through. (NAFTA). A vengeful v ote for McCain will insure more death in Iraq and IRAN. That's a hell of a grudge that you'd be OK with watching more people die for spite.
But for anyone who has done their homework on Obama, I do not see how this could be the case.
The people in Germany do not think Obama is a neophyte, nor do the leaders of Iraq, Afghanistan, England, France or Germany.
This 'meme' started with Hillary, saying that she and McCain had the illusive 'Commander in Chief credentials', but Obama had a speech. Or one would have to 'ask' Obama about his 'credentials'. The majority of Democrats think Obama has the right stuff to lead this nation into the 21st century, as do leaders around the world.
Bitter Hillary supporters, and the McCain camp love to enhance, exagerate, and repeat this 'political' lightweight, 'neophyte' theme in an endless loop.
It has no basis in fact.
let me guess...townhall?
Nationwide coverage continues of the Tennesee Valley UU Church shooting
ttp://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/31/pastor-wants-to-see-letter/
The Rev. Bob Galloway wants to know. So does the rest of his church.
Galloway, pastor of the Metropolitan Community Church in West Knoxville, says he and his parishioners can't worship in peace until they know what's in the letter Jim David Adkisson wrote.
"The more clarity, the better," Galloway said. "We need to know what we're dealing with. Is it just liberals he was targeting? Is it just gays? Was it all these things mixed together? We need to know."
Galloway said his church serves about 180 people from around East Tennessee, about 85 percent of them gay or lesbian. Some members made a U-turn for home Sunday morning when they heard of a shooting at a liberal, gay-friendly church.
"They thought it was us," Galloway said.
I am still surprised that Obama has not made a statement about this.
That's one of the gay male stereotypes, but it's hard for me to believe it could stick to Obama. It just makes McCain sound like a snide, creepy old man.
They're just following her lead.
I hate to be like them, but it might force the issue if the religious nuts thought McCain really doesn't mind gay people at all when he is not lying to win an election.
I am a straight person but my gaydar has gone off the charts several times when his people speak for him and try to paint Obama as "elitist" etc. If your going to throw stones at people, expect to be hit back.
McCain can't talk about the economy, energy prices, education for college kids because he represents the same damned failed policies we have had for the last 8 years.
I am usually a very thoughtful and reasonable person but I would never let anyone impugn me with the abandonment that McCain's people are doing. His campaign must think that the american people are stupid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4bZw9FmXZ4
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Hannah Friedman