AMERICAblog: McCain just attacked Obama's age. Dumb dumb dumb.
Bubbles
· 1 year ago
He's swift boating. This is classic Rove. Attack the strength of the opponent and make it a liability.
McCain's liability is his age. Obama's advantage is his youth. He's trying to use his control and influence over the media to turn this inside out.
Keep in mind, swift boating doesn't work unless the media compliantly takes the basic message and amplify it out. Like wise, in McCain's case the media takes his gaffe's and attempts to mute them.
This is not a free society.
dad
· 1 year ago
you win :)
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
You are entirely correct, Bubbles. I think a companion line of attack is simply to say whatever negative comes to mind, because it is negative---on the basis that most people won't remember the substance. They will just remember that McCain thinks Obama is bad, bad, bad. But in the long run, this approach will come home to roost. It will drive McCain's negatives up, up, up.
"McCain is not your father. He's your grandfather."
Umm, if my father were still alive, he'd be 71, which is McCain's age. Of course, the fact that my father isn't still alive makes me more than a little concerned about McCain's age. But it's really McCain's craziness that concerns me, and his age actually makes me feel a little more comfortable. MCain's VP choice is likely to be saner than McCain and MCain has a pretty good chance of dying in office. In some sense, I wish McCain were 105, thus guaranteeing that he won't be around long enough to do much damage.
lilybart
· 1 year ago
Karl Rove is in charge now. Attack a strength, the youth of Obama in contrast to the aged McCentury.
Very simple. This is what to expect, so it has to make it easier to counter it since we know exactly what is coming.
JosephP
· 1 year ago
This is exactly right---it is very strong evidence that McCain is taking day to day advice from Karl Rove. This is precisely the type of approach Rove makes---accuse your opponent of doing exactly what you yourself are doing (or in this case, of having the exact weakness of which you yourself could be accused).
gallery
· 1 year ago
Too bad he's not in jail, where his correspondence can be monitored. It would be a lot harder for him to use his dark arts in the bright light of day.
Holy crap! I hadn't seen that! Awesome catch of "FauX News" and it's crappy made up brand of unfair and unbalanced journalism.
I think it tells volumes about how desperate they are...they think they are headed to a repeat of Bob "Viagra" Dole and are doing whatever it takes...
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
so far, I like the way Obama responds to the rovian bullshit. he calls it out, calmly and quickly and, in the process makes a nice point himself.
because the GOPers are always on the wrong side of an issue, all they've got is swiftboating. that's all Obama has to point out.
Wisconsin Liberal
· 1 year ago
And he's still mad we didn't "win" in Vietnam so he feels he has to fight on.
shell
· 1 year ago
He is pandering to the only demographic he has left (except for Southern whites): Those over age 60.
And he can possibly get them. But will that, plus the racists, trump the rest of us?
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
Sooner or later, someone is going to make McCentury's age an issue.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
I think it was a month or more ago that polls showed his age was a question/problem with some voters. I haven't seen another poll like this since.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
I haven't heard anyone bring up the issue in the news either. On the other hand, McCain's camp keeps refering to Obama's age. That's a good thing though, because McCain is making age an issue. It can only come back to bite him on the butt.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
Yes, as soon as McSame brings up age, people think about his age.
red_dwarf
· 1 year ago
Its amazing how deep a low-life like McShank can go.
RenoAnne
· 1 year ago
McCain is becoming more unhinged by the day over the fact that a "young whipper snapper" is kicking his wrinkled old butt in every conceivable manner. He's losing his mind, and he needs to be placed in assisted living before he really falls off the deep end.
gallery
· 1 year ago
It's the creepy grin and the "my friends" shit that scares me. I'm NOT your friend, and you're not gonna get your war, at least not from my vote. Go home to one of your many houses and take a nap. I'm sure there's plenty of people to beat up in the senate once your campaign is over.
Õ¿Õ
· 1 year ago
It's deeply depressing to me that Rove has so much energy when he should be facing jail time, hiding underneath his bed, terrified. But he has all this energy to devote to helping the corporate machine get McShrub in there. Apparently, he's not too worried about it, sorta like tom delay. It's saddening that his smear tactics have another chance on the American people. He cynically shits all over them because he detests them and they happily lap it up. But if they do that, my beliefs tell me they deserve it. I've always believed that bush was meant to happen to this country because of our actions in the past and that if there's a third term for bush, then the American people need more. And they will get more and more and more until they atone from sheer exhaustion.
Õ¿Õ
· 1 year ago
Meanwhile, my neighbor who also lives in a small apartment with her husband, have another couple move in today a few days ago. I know they've moved in instead of visiting is because they came with two vehicles. This isn't a run down area. It's lower middle income. I've never seen this before. They look world worn.
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· 1 year ago
The second car arrived today.
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
This has been happening in this area for quite a while. Sometimes it's because the people in the residence need financial help, so they won't lose their home, sometimes it's a helping hand for family or friends, sometimes it's because blending 2 households is more cost-effective for both. We've gotten so far from the "extended family" concept that many times, it ends in bitter recriminations, though. I hope it works for these folks. There's a lot of "give and take" in these situations and changes of habits, preferences, out of necessity.
Õ¿Õ
· 1 year ago
The both drive older vehicles with tags from here. The guy's small truck is full of crushed aluminum cans in back.
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Perhaps surviving victims of Katrina?
lynchie
· 1 year ago
Republicans voted to block the bill to increase aid to the old and poor for home heating oil. Domenici wants to substitute a bill to push off shore drilling in place of helping the not so wealthy through the winter. When will the right wing, racist nut jobs realize the GOP does not have a place for them in their tent unless they can hump your daughter or grab your son by the ass.
kevinbgoode
· 1 year ago
Perhaps someone needs to point out that McSame was only a few years younger than Obama when he was out breaking his marriage vows, screwing around with other women, neglecting his children, and still pretending HE was a "young man." Clearly, if we follow the examples of Bush and McCain, only Republican elitists are entitled to spend their lives coddled in pre-planned occupations reserved for them by their families (regardless of their abilities to perform a job) and they are allowed to maintain adolescence until their 40's.
That isn't exactly how life works for most other Americans, Mr. McSame. Most Americans take far more responsibility for our actions at a much younger age, with little room for acting out, breaking our vows, throwing temper tantrums and destroying public property, or even learning to love our country.
Just because you use your experience as a POW after 20 hours of combat service to this country, Mr. McSame, doesn't mean the rest of us desire to spend the next four years as POW's of your Administration. We've earned our own badges of honor working and taking responsibility in our lives long before you discovered what responsibility means. . .
ClassAct
· 1 year ago
I am so sick of politics
Õ¿Õ
· 1 year ago
Politics will break your heart. I was listing options this morning but there's always the option of leaving it which I thought about doing this morning.
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Same here. I may just leave the "internets" for a while as well. : ) But I will continue reading...
Õ¿Õ
· 1 year ago
I'm just considering things and beginning to pack up for a move in March. That seems like a long ways off. Got all this useless stuff I need to throw away and let go. Haven't slept for 4 days so I'm really zoned out. Feel good, tough. Like in an altered floating state.
shanobama
· 1 year ago
Have you tried Melatonin? It is an amino acid that comes in a spray bottle or drops.
A couple of squirts or drops in your mouth and you sleep for a while. This works for many people, seriously...
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
Yes, melatonin and valerian worked for me for awhile. Then, about five years ago, it didn't get me through the night anymore. (see below)
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
Also, try L-Tryptophan. I'm sleeping well for the first time in years---every night---since I started it. I'd been using valerian and melatonin, but it wasn't as effective. L-T takes a few days to kick in,
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
Please, don't stop. We need your wisdom.
Õ¿Õ
· 1 year ago
It's really hard to keep it up. After 8 years, we've gotten nothing. Name one thing they've done for us.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
I am a few months older than McCain and know that my mental acuity is not what it was ten years ago.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
I am six years younger, and I know that we do lose some of our mental ability as we age, but I think McCain maybe has lost more than the "average" or maybe hasn't attempted to keep what he had or tried to learn new things. The computer is an example. Here we are, you and I, seniors blogging with the 30 and 40 year olds, and he doesn't know how to turn a computer on. I'd bet many politicians (Clinton's another example) who have been so spoiled by having others do everything for them are in the same boat. And these are supposed to be our leaders. It's use it or lose it all life long.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
I think McCain has PTSD and may have some problems with circulation, mainly not getting enough oxygen to his brain. Clinton also shows signs of low oxygen.
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
I'm 67 and I've noticed that most people my age are well into a solidified mind. It's the same thing that drives them into churches--the fact of their own mortality. This is the case with McBush--and the rage that has built up in him just over the fact that he's facing end of life issues should be recognized by lots of people.
Only the most selfish of the elderly would vote for this bundle of anger and vindictiveness instead of giving their children and grandchildren a chance at a decent life.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
The people I see who are not cement heads are involved in volunteer work. The rest are as you say.
Rab
· 1 year ago
He needs to stop, the demographics of the country won't support him, the internet tubes won't support him, his own diaper won't support him and Cindy McCougar won't support him.
jr
· 1 year ago
McCain looks worse than the bodies that get exhumed on the Law and Order trilogy
lpeggy
· 1 year ago
I will be so glad when Obama comes home tomorrow. Once he is on US soil again, its time to throw some fact-oriented punches at McPumpkinhead.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
Won't it be fun, making fun of McCain when he comes (ahem) out with his E.D. prescription television ad? Watch for it next March, 2009. All those young people, harumph!
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
McCain is not up to the job of the presidency, mentally or physically, and he's not up to campaigning. He's already wanting the weekends off. Obama will have to be careful with him, though, because McCain would like to draw Obama into making "ageist" remarks which McCain would twist and from which he'd try to gain sympathy from voters. Have you noticed that no matter what Obama does, McCain tries to make a negative out of it? He was for Obama going to Iraq before he was against it. He was against Obama visiting wounded troops before he was for it.
DCinDC
· 1 year ago
McCain just seems to be a negative, ignoble, mean, sordid person. It is time to let everyone know just how mean this man and his workers are. I am telling everyone that I know that John McCain is just a negative type person, do not vote for him.
Rab
· 1 year ago
Is this the way to even act senatorial? What happened to all that sacred senator crap? McCain is showing to be mediocre at best.
tommytoonz
· 1 year ago
The McCain campaign appears to be in the kitchen sink strategy mode at the moment, throwing everything regardless of fact or possible effect and seeing what sticks. They have no strategy and are desperately trying to find something, anything, that will stick to Obama. This past week has been a flurry of attacks from all over the place from McCain and each one has been shot down almost immediately, McCain is just hoping his base will pick up one or two of these scraps and run with them (his base being the Press).
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
That's a good observation or way to describe it. He's aping Clinton's kitchen sink strategy.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
Yes, but if he were smarter, he would have surrogates do all the swift-boating. I think eventually it will hurt him badly.
bunnyjump
· 1 year ago
Has anyone else noticed how mccain avoids campaigning on the weekends? How about the mm noticing that?
How could anyone at 71 be up to the rigors of the president's office, especially with the current world turmoil? The POTUS position ain't a 9-5 gig.
flash123
· 1 year ago
Excuse me, but John F. Kennedy was 43 when he became president, 3 years younger than Obama. Is McSame saying JFK was too young to be a good president as well?
rusty08
· 1 year ago
Notice who he mingles with? Old George Bush, Joe Lieberman, Phil Gramm, etc. These old fogies don' have a clue what the American people really need. All of his buddies are elitest and have never shopped for groceries or pumped their own gas to know what "real" people go through on a daily basis, yet he looks like a phony in a grocery store which he is, a real phony!
Asterix
· 1 year ago
If McCain were my grandfather, he'd be 126. McCain's old, but not that old--he just seems that old.
MikeinSanJo
· 1 year ago
How about if we start a fundraising drive to keep McSame supplied with Depends undergarments? We could have them delivered to the RNC convention. If they thought bandaids with purple hearts was funny in 2004, they should REALLY get a kick out of this. (We don't necessarily have to deliver them pre-soiled.)
My father is 3 years older than Grampy McSame and my Dad could kick grampy's ass! For one thing... my father can fully extend his arms (what's up with that?), spends time daily in his workshop, constructing cabinets and other renovations for his home, and doesn't live off a drug and alcohol dependent "C*nt" (McSame's word, not mine!)
I still don't quite understand why a failed fighter pilot who couldn't avoid anti-aircraft fire, couldn't evade capture, and couldn't withstand torture is the republican party's answer to jesus.
Ricky
· 1 year ago
Barack Obama, a Baby Boomer, will be 47 on August 4th. John McCain, a Great Depression baby, will be 72 on August 29th.
I think yall are missing the point...I didn't read all the comments so someone may have gotten it. In the south black men are referred to as boys..an relic from the old south. It is a way to demean a black man and put him in his place...same as calling a black woman girl. Don't be naive and think this isn't what they are doing...they are reaching out to any older swing voters who this might help stir up some old emotions with to keep the blacks in their places.
All Comments
McCain's liability is his age. Obama's advantage is his youth. He's trying to use his control and influence over the media to turn this inside out.
Keep in mind, swift boating doesn't work unless the media compliantly takes the basic message and amplify it out. Like wise, in McCain's case the media takes his gaffe's and attempts to mute them.
This is not a free society.
I think a companion line of attack is simply to say whatever negative comes to mind, because it is negative---on the basis that most people won't remember the substance. They will just remember that McCain thinks Obama is bad, bad, bad.
But in the long run, this approach will come home to roost. It will drive McCain's negatives up, up, up.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/22/m...
—turdblossom
same old. same old.
Umm, if my father were still alive, he'd be 71, which is McCain's age. Of course, the fact that my father isn't still alive makes me more than a little concerned about McCain's age. But it's really McCain's craziness that concerns me, and his age actually makes me feel a little more comfortable. MCain's VP choice is likely to be saner than McCain and MCain has a pretty good chance of dying in office. In some sense, I wish McCain were 105, thus guaranteeing that he won't be around long enough to do much damage.
Very simple.
This is what to expect, so it has to make it easier to counter it since we know exactly what is coming.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/2584133...
I think it tells volumes about how desperate they are...they think they are headed to a repeat of Bob "Viagra" Dole and are doing whatever it takes...
he calls it out, calmly and quickly and, in the process makes a nice point himself.
because the GOPers are always on the wrong side of an issue, all they've got is swiftboating. that's all Obama has to point out.
And he can possibly get them. But will that, plus the racists, trump the rest of us?
can only come back to bite him on the butt.
I'm NOT your friend, and you're not gonna get your war, at least not from my vote.
Go home to one of your many houses and take a nap.
I'm sure there's plenty of people to beat up in the senate once your campaign is over.
That isn't exactly how life works for most other Americans, Mr. McSame. Most Americans take far more responsibility for our actions at a much younger age, with little room for acting out, breaking our vows, throwing temper tantrums and destroying public property, or even learning to love our country.
Just because you use your experience as a POW after 20 hours of combat service to this country, Mr. McSame, doesn't mean the rest of us desire to spend the next four years as POW's of your Administration. We've earned our own badges of honor working and taking responsibility in our lives long before you discovered what responsibility means. . .
A couple of squirts or drops in your mouth and you sleep for a while. This works for many people, seriously...
L-T takes a few days to kick in,
Clinton also shows signs of low oxygen.
Only the most selfish of the elderly would vote for this bundle of anger and vindictiveness instead of giving their children and grandchildren a chance at a decent life.
How could anyone at 71 be up to the rigors of the president's office, especially with the current world turmoil? The POTUS position ain't a 9-5 gig.
My father is 3 years older than Grampy McSame and my Dad could kick grampy's ass! For one thing... my father can fully extend his arms (what's up with that?), spends time daily in his workshop, constructing cabinets and other renovations for his home, and doesn't live off a drug and alcohol dependent "C*nt" (McSame's word, not mine!)
I still don't quite understand why a failed fighter pilot who couldn't avoid anti-aircraft fire, couldn't evade capture, and couldn't withstand torture is the republican party's answer to jesus.
John McCain, a Great Depression baby, will be 72 on August 29th.
http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/4/7/26/f_Mc...
McCain cuts the cheese.