AMERICAblog: McCain lies to a kid about immigration
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
Thinking, but restraining himself from saying, "Ya little jerk, ya little Mexican jerk."
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
"without consequences" or "with impunity". yeah, geezers say the darndest things!
TomJoad
· 1 year ago
Hoo boy....from TPM, the story about "access to the white house" just got bigger. Apparently donations can get you off the terror list (see below, whereas a bonafide american cannot even do this) even after convicted, follow the link to the whole story: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/204035.php
This is the kind of stuff that needs to get out there...
TimRusso
· 1 year ago
can we get someone to do some investigative journalism on the lies that lead to the New Yorker cover? is that at all possible? john? joe? isn't this where our activism needs to go right now?
McCain has to convince the Republican base that he is worthy to carry on the Bush legacy of lies and corruption.
Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas
· 1 year ago
As long as big money owns the media, none of this is going to mean a fucking damn. Ain't nobody wantin' to have a beer with a Negro down heah in Jeebus white trash land....aka Dumbfuckistan...McSame will probably carry these red states. No one is angry about HIM or Bush. They are pissed but they don't know why. And they don't know why because of the media. They only know they hate fags and fag marriage, abortion because that's all they hear on Sundays in the pews, and goddamnnit I want my guns. That's enough for them. And McSame might be okay to drink beer with. And they keep hearing, from Rush Radio, that Obama is a muslim anyway.
Mike Barnacle equats Cindy McCriminal's $750,000 credit card charge for one month with Michelle Obama buying food at Whole Foods and commenting that it is hard to find fresh fruit. They go on an on about how out of touch the candidates and their wives are. Not a single one of the 4 said: well at least she does her own shopping. When was the last time Cindy went into a supermarket or pumped her own gas--never. Now Whole Foods is an elitist store. Course might have been ok with the panel if instead of Arugala she had been looking for a watermelon. Good Christ we are doomed. One comment at the link says: If you’re Obama, are you tempted to just pull the plug, throw up your hands, and say “Fuck it, I’m done with this nonsense.” I agree with this sentiment. This country hardly deserves saving.
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
Veracity challenged, yet dull.
jr
· 1 year ago
"daddy is a maverick, straight talk express. Chug a chugga choo choo"-cable news
kevinbgoode
· 1 year ago
The media will never mention it. . .
DonQ
· 1 year ago
McCain is the "Repbulican" candidate? Who are the Repbulicans? They sound like illegal furriners to me. Let's kick 'em out!
econprofes
· 1 year ago
Obama has the right plan, the correct answers but the wrong approach and McCain has the wrong plan, wrong answers but the correct approach. Obama gives mostly speeches and has very little dialogue with his audience while McCain is decreasing his speeches and actually talking to the people and not at them as Obama is doing. When the MSM show a clip of Obama, he is on the stage in a large arena filled with people giving a speech. When the MSM shows John McCain he down with the audience fielding questions. As crazy as this sounds, McCain is hanging in this presidential contest because he has rolled his sleeves up and is having a dialogue with the people of the areas he going to, while Obama is detached from his audience.
Obama needs to come off his “soap” box, roll up his sleeves and express those good ideas in a forum where he can receive and field questions. Bill Clinton was the master at doing this and I know Obama can do it better than Clinton. The reason I know Senator Obama can do it better then President Clinton is because in the Iowa and South Carolina primaries when Senator Obama had the open forums with dialogue from his audiences he was a lot better then President Clinton was in 1992. My wife was a starch Hillary Clinton supporter but when she saw Obama having those heart to heart conversations with the people of South Carolina, telling his story of where he came from and his vision for this country, and the way he looked at the person who he was answering their question. I remember her saying, this guy is really attentive to the person he was talking to. She voted for Obama in the Virginia primary.
He has gotten away from that and it is showing in his decreasing poll numbers. These forum sessions that Obama should have needs to be seen on the MSM. Yes McCain told a lie but he still will score political points because what people will see first from this clip is John McCain having a conversation with the people while Obama continues to talk “at” the people from his “soap” box.
Mum48
· 1 year ago
First of all I think that you mean that your wife was a "staunch" Clinton supporter, and, secondly, I'm glad that she came over to Obama.
There is a lot of truth to that quote (Jefferson? Tocqueville?) that in a democracy people get the government they deserve. Except I would expand upon it, and say that in a purported democracy where most of the people who go into the voting booth are swayed more by how someone parts his or her hair than the substance of their ideas, ideals, and proposals, we get the government we deserve. I am thoroughly disgusted with our sound-bite debate culture and the pundits, both on the left and the right, who have deceived themselves into thinking that they are journalists who have anything of substance to offer us and aid us in making what is one of the most important decisions we can make as citizens of a republic.
McCain lies, hesitates, distorts, gets agitated, avoids answering questions, and gives his audience those little "my friends" rhetorical fillips, and that somehow comes across as more genuine than Obama's speeches. I've had conversations with people that I wouldn't trust to clean my toilets, much less run the country. And I've listened to some great speeches that were given by people of intelligence, courage, and honesty, who went on to perform tremendous service as senators, representatives, mayors, governors, etc., and I'd probably be happy to clean their toilets, if they asked. I've had it with this whole concept of wanting the president to be someone who is not elitist, someone we can have a beer with, someone who "comes down to our level." Look at where it got us. Look at where we are after nearly eight years under the thumb of an administration supposedly led by "one of the guys," " a good Christian," and someone who, just like the guy next door, "clears brush."
He lied to a kid, A KID. And it was very obvious that his flip answer WAS a life. Haven't we been lied to enough!?
econprofes
· 1 year ago
Sometimes a President who "gets down where you are" turns out to be good president. Bill Clinton met people on their level, he had more town hall meetings than speeches, at the same time he was an excellent president and he was also very intelligent. You can be both.
The author of this piece must of witnessed this first hand. The reality is the MSM snippets of McCain's town hall meetings don't show that. The "bread and butter" during Senator Obama's early primaries were the town hall meetings. He has a natural way of connecting with people and he should go back to that especially in rural areas in states like Pennsylvania, Indiana, North Carolina, Virginia and Florida. John McCain finished 4th from the bottom of his graduating class at the Naval academy. He has no ideas; he is not articulate at all so he struggles in any venue. Barak Obama has the ability, in a town house venue, to really excel because it's easy to express ideas and articulate the nuances and caveats of YOUR ideas (not something that an advisor gave you and you have no concept or understanding of the idea) in an open session.
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yeah, geezers say the darndest things!
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/204035.php
This is the kind of stuff that needs to get out there...
http://bloggerinterrupted.com/2008/07/the-new-y...
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/07/14/hardba...
Mike Barnacle equats Cindy McCriminal's $750,000 credit card charge for one month with Michelle Obama buying food at Whole Foods and commenting that it is hard to find fresh fruit. They go on an on about how out of touch the candidates and their wives are.
Not a single one of the 4 said: well at least she does her own shopping. When was the last time Cindy went into a supermarket or pumped her own gas--never. Now Whole Foods is an elitist store. Course might have been ok with the panel if instead of Arugala she had been looking for a watermelon. Good Christ we are doomed.
One comment at the link says: If you’re Obama, are you tempted to just pull the plug, throw up your hands, and say “Fuck it, I’m done with this nonsense.”
I agree with this sentiment. This country hardly deserves saving.
Obama needs to come off his “soap” box, roll up his sleeves and express those good ideas in a forum where he can receive and field questions. Bill Clinton was the master at doing this and I know Obama can do it better than Clinton. The reason I know Senator Obama can do it better then President Clinton is because in the Iowa and South Carolina primaries when Senator Obama had the open forums with dialogue from his audiences he was a lot better then President Clinton was in 1992. My wife was a starch Hillary Clinton supporter but when she saw Obama having those heart to heart conversations with the people of South Carolina, telling his story of where he came from and his vision for this country, and the way he looked at the person who he was answering their question. I remember her saying, this guy is really attentive to the person he was talking to. She voted for Obama in the Virginia primary.
He has gotten away from that and it is showing in his decreasing poll numbers. These forum sessions that Obama should have needs to be seen on the MSM. Yes McCain told a lie but he still will score political points because what people will see first from this clip is John McCain having a conversation with the people while Obama continues to talk “at” the people from his “soap” box.
There is a lot of truth to that quote (Jefferson? Tocqueville?) that in a democracy people get the government they deserve. Except I would expand upon it, and say that in a purported democracy where most of the people who go into the voting booth are swayed more by how someone parts his or her hair than the substance of their ideas, ideals, and proposals, we get the government we deserve. I am thoroughly disgusted with our sound-bite debate culture and the pundits, both on the left and the right, who have deceived themselves into thinking that they are journalists who have anything of substance to offer us and aid us in making what is one of the most important decisions we can make as citizens of a republic.
McCain lies, hesitates, distorts, gets agitated, avoids answering questions, and gives his audience those little "my friends" rhetorical fillips, and that somehow comes across as more genuine than Obama's speeches. I've had conversations with people that I wouldn't trust to clean my toilets, much less run the country. And I've listened to some great speeches that were given by people of intelligence, courage, and honesty, who went on to perform tremendous service as senators, representatives, mayors, governors, etc., and I'd probably be happy to clean their toilets, if they asked. I've had it with this whole concept of wanting the president to be someone who is not elitist, someone we can have a beer with, someone who "comes down to our level." Look at where it got us. Look at where we are after nearly eight years under the thumb of an administration supposedly led by "one of the guys," " a good Christian," and someone who, just like the guy next door, "clears brush."
He lied to a kid, A KID. And it was very obvious that his flip answer WAS a life. Haven't we been lied to enough!?
president. Bill Clinton met people on their level, he had more town
hall meetings than speeches, at the same time he was an excellent
president and he was also very intelligent. You can be both.
is the MSM snippets of McCain's town hall meetings don't show that. The
"bread and butter" during Senator Obama's early primaries were the town
hall meetings. He has a natural way of connecting with people and he
should go back to that especially in rural areas in states like
Pennsylvania, Indiana, North Carolina, Virginia and Florida. John
McCain finished 4th from the bottom of his graduating class at the Naval
academy. He has no ideas; he is not articulate at all so he struggles
in any venue. Barak Obama has the ability, in a town house venue, to
really excel because it's easy to express ideas and articulate the
nuances and caveats of YOUR ideas (not something that an advisor gave
you and you have no concept or understanding of the idea) in an open
session.