AMERICAblog: McCain may have inadvertently proven that he had the questions in advance
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
And then, just like Kerry running away and hiding from Bush using a wire, Obama wants to throw this election as he won't challenge McCain and "Rev." Warren on the fact that he had the questions ahead of time. I swear, if McCain weren't far and away the worst of two very bad choices, I wouldn't vote for Obama. As it is, if Obama is far, far ahead, I still won't. But Obama must win as bad as he is, accessory, accomplice, and co-conspirator that he is, he isn't McCain and isn't a Republican/neocon, only associate membership.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
I know, it's irritating to watch Obama sit back and do nothing.
brb915
· 1 year ago
He's picking the battles he needs to win the war----go ahead and stay home or vote Nader or whatever. We'll get it done without you
NealB
· 1 year ago
Listen up, cocky. I feel the same way as vkobaya above. I don't think it's a stretch to think that a LOT of our fellow Democrats have lost faith in Obama since his "moves to the center" (betrayals is a better word for it) and steady losses in polls over the past two months. Right now, if you're sincere in your support for Obama (and not a troll working for Republicans to further dampen what enthusiasm remains for Obama), you might want to avoid criticizing those who have legitimate complaints. Unbelievably, considering how bad McCain is, Obama might end up needing every vote he can get come November.
brb915
· 1 year ago
Like I sid....we'll get it done without you
jcgraham77
· 1 year ago
You sound like one of the Bushies...no dissent...your either with us or against us. Grow up!
brb915
· 1 year ago
Little late here, too busy growing up----we'll get it done without you , besides you, in spite of you, at no extra cost to you
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
Agree completely with you, BRB. Some people don't appreciate pragmatism.
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
I hope it is pragmatism of Democrats being obligated to run to the center. However, the evidence seems to be that Obama is another corporate candidate, not working for us, the real Democratic party anymore than the Clintons work for us. And, Obama has gone out and alienated us on the left, the real liberals who might be very enthusiastic supporters for the very few middle class, white voters who are not racist enough hold that against. With a Black candidate, this race is not going to be won in the middle, the so called independents.
I understand well that Black candidates must not frighten the White middle class. If you look carefully at all the winning Black office holders, there are very, very few who ever won on anything but a very moderate program. It's also true of Hispanics. How many minority holders of major offices in this nation can you name who are not moderates. There are a few who are in very secure districts, all voters of a single minority. Most are vilified and the resources of the entire right wing are thrown against them to defeat them. Look at what was done to Cynthia McKinney. Maxine Waters has been repeatedly vilified as the most corrupt member of Congress.
If Obama, wins I hope somewhere down the line, maybe 50, maybe 100 years from now, I hope the minorities will finally be free to be themselves, free to vote their conscience, not pragmatically restricted because of their race. An Obama victory is just the very first baby step. But my gut feeling is the middle really is where Obama's conscience is. Sigh!
nikto
· 1 year ago
"Black candidates must not frighten the White middle class. " ====================================================================================================== What? I'm white, middle-class & middle-aged & Black candidates don't scare me 1 bit. Never have. Lying, greedy, CRIMINAL candidates scare me.
Any white people scared of Obama are uneducated, shallow, and/or just plain racist-stupid.
People who DON'T fear McSCUM's war-mongering & careless lack of principle are delusionary.
THOSE are things to be feared in a President.
txexspeedy
· 1 year ago
Don't forget cheating on the Lincoln savings deal.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
Perfect! This is the proof that he knew what was coming. So, is this going to be a topic on any of the news shows. How about "Countdown"?
Make it happen John. Make is so!
Rufus
· 1 year ago
When first you practice to deceive, it's hard to remember sometimes. Yes, proof positive he knew the questions before hand. McCain is truly another Bush.
brb915
· 1 year ago
ANd what does that say about Warren? Does he think we are stupid or is he dumb enough to be played as well?
Mikki --SE Pennsylvania
· 1 year ago
Warren is a liar and a hypocrite and very clearly biased toward Insane McBush3. He dishonors himself, his ministry, and the Southern Baptist Church and he needs to make a public apology to Obama as well as the viewers who turned in thinking this was going to be non-partisan and honest in its presentation.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
I sent him an e-mail saying he is a fraud and a disgrace.
johnsonFamily
· 1 year ago
In any case, Warren fits the mold of "stupid" himself. A large number of presumed influential "leaders," most especially on the Right put their ignorance on display every day when they open their mouths to show that the actual words of English can mean what they want them to mean. Whatever.
WARREN: OK, we don't have to beleaguer on that one. Define marriage.
SouthernYankee
· 1 year ago
McCain being a prisoner of war would make me think that he would lie to get by. I noticed that part of the conversation also. Republicans will never play fair. Obama should stop being played.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
I don't know about Barry's other choices, but Biden---whom I am not crazy about otherwise---will say it like it is about McCain.
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
I don't think we should vilify McCain's service record that he actually served and was a prisoner of war. I know that I would have broken in a Viet Cong prision, and I suspect there are very, very few here who could have resisted the tortrue imposed on those POWs.
McCain's faults are not that he was a Viet Cong prisoner of war or even that he broke under torture. No, McCains faults are his bigotry and racism holding all minorities responsible for the torture he suffered, his service of the right wing causes, such as unlimited capitalism and his false Maverick credentials as well as his flip-flops, the worst being his flip-flop on torture. His cheating in the weekend discussion forum is not the act of a the honorable, ethical, respectable candidate that he presents himself to be, but rather that of someone who is unfit to hold office by character.
Sigh! Unfortunately, after Bush, complaining about anyone else's unfit character seems silly, but McCain seems determined to prove he is even less fit than Bush. They say Bush was unfit to be dog catcher, but Bush was unfit to even be the janitor in the dog pound. McCain is trying to prove he is not even fit to be the junior, assistant, part-time, helper's aid to that janitor. Maybe I'd give him the assistant janitors job in honor of the sacrifices he made serving this country and being a prisoner of war. On the other hand, it may be that his failings, flaws, cheating and bigotry disqualifies him even for that job.
SouthernYankee
· 1 year ago
I wasn't saying anything about his experience as a prisoner of war. He did break other wise why would he not want the missing POW in VN files openned up? What does he have to hide. There is information coming out now from POWs that were in with him. Get on Democratic Underground.com you will read about it. All am saying is that he says terrible things about people who did break.
artisticfreedom
· 1 year ago
It's hard to cheat when you're in the early stages of dementia. Mermaidman McCain can't speak without Barnacleboy Lieberman there to hold his hand!
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
Maybe he got a little help? Someone else held his hand?
geoffe
· 1 year ago
I agree with most of your stuff, but I think this is a bit of a reach. I think in his mind McCain started thinking about talking about Justices, and just wanted to see if he should talk about it then or if it was going to come up later. I think you're parsing this a bit too far...
cpDallas
· 1 year ago
Warren also noticed McCain's psychic gifts...
WARREN: "We will get to that. Man, you are jumping ahead! You know all of my questions good."
cmccbald
· 1 year ago
Instead of bitching and whining about Obama, who is trying to expand our base by reaching out to those who are not initially inclined to vote for him, let's concentrate on revealing the truth about the other side.
The original post is a great analysis.
And how about this: it is clear that Pastor Warren, protecting McCain, lied right at the beginning. Here's the CNN transcript: RICK WARREN, PASTOR, SADDLEBACK CHURCH: Welcome to the Saddleback Civil Forum on the Presidency.... Tonight, we're going to use the interview format with these two candidates.... Now, what I decided is to allow for proper comparison, I'm going to ask identical questions to each of these candidates. So you can compare apples to apples. Now, Senator Obama is going to go first. We flipped a coin, and we have safely placed Senator McCain in a cone of silence....
Warren had to know that McCain had violated the agreement and was not on the premises. He had to know that, in fact, "we" had not "safely" placed McCain in a cone of anything.
He lied. Why didn't he just tell the truth? Because it would hurt McCain? Because it would show that he (Warren) was not in control of his own event? Why didn't he just wait to start the session until McCain was in the agreed upon "cone of silence."
Question for McCain: He broke the agreement by arriving late. Why? What's his excuse?
Mikki --SE Pennsylvania
· 1 year ago
Possible answer by McCain: I didn't really break the agreement because I was a POW and my experiences as a POW are what qualifies me to be POTUS.
Just where did this false idea arise that McShame is always reticent to talk about his war experiences? Good grief! he used it twice in this piddling little farce with Liar and Hypocrite Warren. He didn't seem reticent at all.
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
10:49am EST Main pic on CNN.com is McCain in his flight suit 1967.
Jim Olson
· 1 year ago
Don't know if everyone saw this...here is how the right is spinning this event...
Here were 2 sentences that are a scream LOL "Obama took care to point out that he had once been a professor at the University of Chicago, but that bit of biography was unnecessary. His whole manner smacks of chalkboards and campus ivy."
So does that mean McCain shouldn't bring up the POW stuff? because it smacks of his previous life 40 years ago?
ron071
· 1 year ago
HereinDC: It's POW all the time. Get real .
Busboy
· 1 year ago
John A.; I think A-bloggers have caught McWeasel fair and square. Good detective work...
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
Thunderation! There is a God! Miracles do happen! I hear angels singing! Hosanna! Hosanna! Hosanna in the highest!
Now, have we convinced you to vote for Obama, not because he is a good man, but because McCain and the right are so bad?
<g>
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Getting close.... Pretty much in to "not voting" at this juncture of time and political shinola...
gnaztee
· 1 year ago
I agree with Geoffe here, you've missed this one a bit. Warren cites Roe v Wade, McCain talks about a pro-life record which, as a president, would directly pertain to Justice nominations. Of course he'd be thinking about SC Justices when addressing the question. I just don't get how the story of Saddleback wasn't the candidness and true conversational tone of Obama vs. McCain turning to the audience every response, beginning with "My friends..." and launching into his stump speech. Obama was connecting, McCain was putting on a show.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
The evidence cited in John's post plus McSame's astonishing fluency in response to every question is persuasive to me.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
The realclearpolitics article that Jim Olson referenced below has got to scare the hell out of the superdelegates, who are already in the pressure cooker..
barts
· 1 year ago
Everyone keeps thinking he jumped ahead. Please review the dialogue above: "are we going to get BACK...?" He said "BACK." Back to what?
He must have gotten a chance to know what the questions were.
LeeBurl
· 1 year ago
Good catch, but on the CNN website, the headline is a puff piece, complete with a photo provided by the McCain camp, that touts his POW years. Until syncophants like John King do real journalism, we're just fighting the wind.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
Could someone brush aside all the theological embroidery, gibberish and wink-and-nod head-wobbling and translate "at the moment of conception" into clearly bio-medical terms?
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
K.O. really blasted McCain last night. It's the most fired up I've ever seen him.
Moderation
· 1 year ago
Actually, while I DO think McCain receive the questions ahead of time, I think that might be the wrong meme to primarily pursue. Sure, he cheated.
That method of cheating, however, wasn't the trap set up for Obama. It was simply the means of giving McCain the time to organize his answers ahead of time. Rather, the TRAP was that Rick Warren allowed John McCain to use stump rhetoric...over and over and over again...without calling him on it. Obama, he was called on it and was thus forced to stop and edit OUT his extremely well-practiced and ingrained stump rhetoric from his responses. That is what slowed him down, and required thoughtfulness. That is the meme that should be pursued, IMHO. Why did Rick Warren allow McCain, but not Obama, to go to his stump, contrary to the rules of the forum? THAT was the huge advantage here. THAT is what gave the appearance of Obama pausing too often, and McCain whipping answers out like a pro.
I wish I had time to go through the video, and present his stump rhetoric at Saddleback next to his stump rhetoric on the road. If any intrepid folks out there have the time, access and equipment to do so, that would make for an awesome commercial or YouTube video: Start with Warren, the rule of no stump speech, and his calling Obama on it, juxtaposed with the endless stump bullsh** McCain was allowed to run with mercilessly.
slappymagoo
· 1 year ago
Why did Warren let McCain stump and not Obama? The answer is obvious: The crowd was digging McCain more than Obama (for reasons that truly confound me, what is wrong with these people) and Warren wanted his people to have the red meat they crave.
ron071
· 1 year ago
Saddleback was as much of a FIX as you are ever likely to see. A fix is the only way McCain can even appear lucid. Faux lucidity was on display.
MORE PAIN ????VOTE Mc SAME !!!!!!!!!!!
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
Yes, this is another strong indication that the deal was a setup. And to paraphrase Biden, "McCain uses a noun and a verb and POW in every sentence."
slappymagoo
· 1 year ago
A few others have made this comment, but it's one I came to write about myself, so I gotta agree with them...
McCain was talking about how pro-life he was. He was about to talk about how he'd make sure any Supreme Court Justices he nominates would keep in line with that philosophy. Warren cut him off to move on to the next question, feeling like McCain was pretty thorough (or wanted to make sure the ol' fart didn't say anything to lose that momentum) HOWEVER, McCain had Supreme Court Justices on the brain, which is why he asked to go back to talk about "the importance of Supreme Court Justices..." Warren, knowing that he'd be bringing up the Supreme Court, joked that he was jumping ahead.
That's it.
While I don't doubt that McCain was prepped in advance - whether he heard Obama on the way, or was told what questions Obama was asked, or whether they were leaked the questions way ahead of time, quite frankly, I find any of those possibilities plausible, considering how incoherent McCain has been on the stump and how all of a sudden he had something akin to an A-game that night - but this is a dumb thing to pursue. Even if the conspiracy theories are right, the sort of theory I have (and others have had before me and will have after me) will be used as the official explanation. To try to hammer McCain on this, when there are so many truly blatantly horrific things to hammer him on. is a waste of everyone's time. If nothing else, it detracts on finding out other possible pieces of proof he got the questions early. A red herring.
Coming Undone
· 1 year ago
We all know that McCain cheated it is just as obvious as his comb -over.
Rick Warren knew that his white evangelicals needed to see and hear McCain in a so called church setting spewing the right wing talking points so they could see that he was one of them.
ron071
· 1 year ago
A FIX was clearly in at Saddleback when McSame was primed with at least 30 minutes of cribing before entering the " zone of silence". Just think about the similarities between Bush and McCain. Arrogant, ignorant, bluster, unending war, threats, unintelligent, hypocrite, & violator of rules,etc. McCain is McSame in characteristics and policy. The chance for Bush III resides with McSame. There is a choice for you.
ron071
· 1 year ago
The Saddleback event was very instructive in that it showed an anxious McCain who, fearing he would forget his prepared answers, blurted them out before the questions were asked. Clearly, the Manchurian Candidate was given his prep in the car while he cheated on the rules for at least 30 minutes.
WANT MORE PAIN ???????? VOTE McSAME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for posting this. Adds to the circumstantial evidence.
RonNYC
· 1 year ago
And what does Obama do about this? I can pretty well guess: nothing. He is traveling on such a high road he is almost invisible. McCain is in the gutter and Obama is going to have to get into it with him and slug it out; or else, he's going to seem like an effete wuss (not that I think he's that way).
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
Well, as long as he didn't have sex with his crystal meth dealer in Denver, it's cool.
moreleesafer
· 1 year ago
I came in not long before this part, and I was thinking "huh? Rick didn't say anything about the SCOTUS, maybe It happened before I tuned in."
So now I know once again, it is not just me. it is the Republicans trying to make me think I'm crazy.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
Yes, I caught that, too, and thought I must be confused.
JMOHR
· 1 year ago
DKOS had another diary yesterday that pointed out how McCain answered a three part question on teachers before Warren had finished asking it. This kinda leaves the question as to how McCain knew what parts 2 and 3 were to the question and in which order they would be. No wonder why McCain is reacting so violently.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
Good point. Again, I thought I must have missed something.
bacalove
· 1 year ago
What Less can we expect from the GOP? Lie, cheat, deceive!
Every campaign season GOP scare -- Dems will raise your taxes! George Bush did not Raise Taxes and yet, are we any better off for it? We have to wake up from this rheteroic which distorts the issues and the truth. Not raising your taxes only means that something else will have to be raised like your medical insurance or car insurance, bank and financial fees, etc. Raising your taxes is not the issue, the issue is what will the candidate do for the country and the American people, for jobs, schools, cost of education and health care. Let's not get it twisted. It is time to wake up from the scare tactics and embrace real change that is positive and not words with no deeds which only leads to the decaying of America
You don't need Washington experience to be experienced. You need to be smart, foreward thinking, independent of big business and oil companies, knowledgeable about economics and the Constitution. It doesn't take rocket science to know how to get along with other people around the world -- treat others like you would want them to treat you.
'The massed power of goodwill, the dynamic effect of intelligent and active understanding, and the potency of a trained and alive public opinion, which desires the greatest good of the greatest number are beyond belief.
This dynamic power has never been employed. It can today save the world.' Djwhal Khul
Moderation: "the TRAP was that Rick Warren allowed John McCain to use stump rhetoric...over and over and over again...without calling him on it"
So true. I even emailed Larry King a question for him to ask Rev. Warren about why he allowed McCain to do this. Unfortunately (and not unsurprisingly), he didn't ask it.
I thought King treated Warren with kid gloves, actually, and was too fair to McCain, leaving out the "$5 million" part of McCain's answer from the clip to the "what is rich?" question.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Reassuring in an odd way.
I was worried that McCain suddenly grew a brain.
But I guess he was just parroting the talking points he was fed before he went on.
Mark in Florida
· 1 year ago
Anyone who thinks McSame did not have the questions in advance is naive.
McCain is a fraud. Period.
Mark in Florida
· 1 year ago
Well here is the deal: NOBODY watched that stupid bible beating pander-fest anyway. No one cares, they are still on vaction, kids are going back to school, Michael Phelps is more interesting right now.
Joe Biden, Please come on board and BEAT THE CRAP out of Cranky old McSAME. He is like an irritating mosquito buzzing around your head while trying to sleep, you just can't quite slap it down.
nikto
· 1 year ago
McSCUM can't even CHEATwithout screwing up.
I swear, if this empty shell of a man gets into the WH, America is toast. By 2012, there may not be any country left to save.
Bill_in_Boulder
· 1 year ago
One had the questions and stumbled, the other one side-stepped and double-talked.... Is picking Biden, a 30 year bought and paid for politician, going to bring the "change" we/you want? If anyone tuned in to this interview thinking they were going to get any insight, much less an honest interview, then you're still living in your high school government class. It's like watching Star Wars and then criticizing it because there's really no sound in outer space. What they say and what they will do, or can accomplish, have little to do with the other. The large money interests, and no longer just U.S. money interests, will rule the day no matter who's in there. Obama, like Bill Clinton, will just be smoother at pulling the wool over our eyes. At least Bush gave us someone we could throw tomatoes at.
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I understand well that Black candidates must not frighten the White middle class. If you look carefully at all the winning Black office holders, there are very, very few who ever won on anything but a very moderate program. It's also true of Hispanics. How many minority holders of major offices in this nation can you name who are not moderates. There are a few who are in very secure districts, all voters of a single minority. Most are vilified and the resources of the entire right wing are thrown against them to defeat them. Look at what was done to Cynthia McKinney. Maxine Waters has been repeatedly vilified as the most corrupt member of Congress.
If Obama, wins I hope somewhere down the line, maybe 50, maybe 100 years from now, I hope the minorities will finally be free to be themselves, free to vote their conscience, not pragmatically restricted because of their race. An Obama victory is just the very first baby step. But my gut feeling is the middle really is where Obama's conscience is. Sigh!
======================================================================================================
What?
I'm white, middle-class & middle-aged & Black candidates don't scare me 1 bit.
Never have.
Lying, greedy, CRIMINAL candidates scare me.
Any white people scared of Obama are uneducated, shallow, and/or just plain racist-stupid.
People who DON'T fear McSCUM's war-mongering & careless lack
of principle are delusionary.
THOSE are things to be feared in a President.
Make it happen John. Make is so!
WARREN: OK, we don't have to beleaguer on that one. Define marriage.
McCain's faults are not that he was a Viet Cong prisoner of war or even that he broke under torture. No, McCains faults are his bigotry and racism holding all minorities responsible for the torture he suffered, his service of the right wing causes, such as unlimited capitalism and his false Maverick credentials as well as his flip-flops, the worst being his flip-flop on torture. His cheating in the weekend discussion forum is not the act of a the honorable, ethical, respectable candidate that he presents himself to be, but rather that of someone who is unfit to hold office by character.
Sigh! Unfortunately, after Bush, complaining about anyone else's unfit character seems silly, but McCain seems determined to prove he is even less fit than Bush. They say Bush was unfit to be dog catcher, but Bush was unfit to even be the janitor in the dog pound. McCain is trying to prove he is not even fit to be the junior, assistant, part-time, helper's aid to that janitor. Maybe I'd give him the assistant janitors job in honor of the sacrifices he made serving this country and being a prisoner of war. On the other hand, it may be that his failings, flaws, cheating and bigotry disqualifies him even for that job.
WARREN: "We will get to that. Man, you are jumping ahead! You know all of my questions good."
The original post is a great analysis.
And how about this: it is clear that Pastor Warren, protecting McCain, lied right at the beginning. Here's the CNN transcript: RICK WARREN, PASTOR, SADDLEBACK CHURCH: Welcome to the Saddleback Civil Forum on the Presidency.... Tonight, we're going to use the interview format with these two candidates.... Now, what I decided is to allow for proper comparison, I'm going to ask identical questions to each of these candidates. So you can compare apples to apples. Now, Senator Obama is going to go first. We flipped a coin, and we have safely placed Senator McCain in a cone of silence....
Warren had to know that McCain had violated the agreement and was not on the premises. He had to know that, in fact, "we" had not "safely" placed McCain in a cone of anything.
He lied. Why didn't he just tell the truth? Because it would hurt McCain? Because it would show that he (Warren) was not in control of his own event? Why didn't he just wait to start the session until McCain was in the agreed upon "cone of silence."
Question for McCain: He broke the agreement by arriving late. Why? What's his excuse?
I didn't really break the agreement because I was a POW and my experiences as a POW are what qualifies me to be POTUS.
Just where did this false idea arise that McShame is always reticent to talk about his war experiences? Good grief! he used it twice in this piddling little farce with Liar and Hypocrite Warren. He didn't seem reticent at all.
Main pic on CNN.com is McCain in his flight suit 1967.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/...
"Obama took care to point out that he had once been a professor at the University of Chicago, but that bit of biography was unnecessary. His whole manner smacks of chalkboards and campus ivy."
So does that mean McCain shouldn't bring up the POW stuff? because it smacks of his previous life 40 years ago?
Now, have we convinced you to vote for Obama, not because he is a good man, but because McCain and the right are so bad?
<g>
He must have gotten a chance to know what the questions were.
That method of cheating, however, wasn't the trap set up for Obama. It was simply the means of giving McCain the time to organize his answers ahead of time. Rather, the TRAP was that Rick Warren allowed John McCain to use stump rhetoric...over and over and over again...without calling him on it. Obama, he was called on it and was thus forced to stop and edit OUT his extremely well-practiced and ingrained stump rhetoric from his responses. That is what slowed him down, and required thoughtfulness. That is the meme that should be pursued, IMHO. Why did Rick Warren allow McCain, but not Obama, to go to his stump, contrary to the rules of the forum? THAT was the huge advantage here. THAT is what gave the appearance of Obama pausing too often, and McCain whipping answers out like a pro.
I wish I had time to go through the video, and present his stump rhetoric at Saddleback next to his stump rhetoric on the road. If any intrepid folks out there have the time, access and equipment to do so, that would make for an awesome commercial or YouTube video: Start with Warren, the rule of no stump speech, and his calling Obama on it, juxtaposed with the endless stump bullsh** McCain was allowed to run with mercilessly.
MORE PAIN ????VOTE Mc SAME !!!!!!!!!!!
McCain was talking about how pro-life he was.
He was about to talk about how he'd make sure any Supreme Court Justices he nominates would keep in line with that philosophy.
Warren cut him off to move on to the next question, feeling like McCain was pretty thorough (or wanted to make sure the ol' fart didn't say anything to lose that momentum)
HOWEVER, McCain had Supreme Court Justices on the brain, which is why he asked to go back to talk about "the importance of Supreme Court Justices..."
Warren, knowing that he'd be bringing up the Supreme Court, joked that he was jumping ahead.
That's it.
While I don't doubt that McCain was prepped in advance - whether he heard Obama on the way, or was told what questions Obama was asked, or whether they were leaked the questions way ahead of time, quite frankly, I find any of those possibilities plausible, considering how incoherent McCain has been on the stump and how all of a sudden he had something akin to an A-game that night - but this is a dumb thing to pursue. Even if the conspiracy theories are right, the sort of theory I have (and others have had before me and will have after me) will be used as the official explanation. To try to hammer McCain on this, when there are so many truly blatantly horrific things to hammer him on. is a waste of everyone's time. If nothing else, it detracts on finding out other possible pieces of proof he got the questions early. A red herring.
Rick Warren knew that his white evangelicals needed to see and hear McCain in a so called church setting spewing the right wing talking points so they could see that he was one of them.
WANT MORE PAIN ???????? VOTE McSAME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So now I know once again, it is not just me. it is the Republicans trying to make me think I'm crazy.
Every campaign season GOP scare -- Dems will raise your taxes! George Bush did not Raise Taxes and yet, are we any better off for it? We have to wake up from this rheteroic which distorts the issues and the truth. Not raising your taxes only means that something else will have to be raised like your medical insurance or car insurance, bank and financial fees, etc. Raising your taxes is not the issue, the issue is what will the candidate do for the country and the American people, for jobs, schools, cost of education and health care. Let's not get it twisted. It is time to wake up from the scare tactics and embrace real change that is positive and not words with no deeds which only leads to the decaying of America
You don't need Washington experience to be experienced. You need to be smart, foreward thinking, independent of big business and oil companies, knowledgeable about economics and the Constitution. It doesn't take rocket science to know how to get along with other people around the world -- treat others like you would want them to treat you.
'The massed power of goodwill,
the dynamic effect of intelligent and active understanding, and the potency of a trained and alive public opinion, which desires the greatest good of the greatest number are beyond belief.
This dynamic power has never been employed.
It can today save the world.'
Djwhal Khul
So true. I even emailed Larry King a question for him to ask Rev. Warren about why he allowed McCain to do this. Unfortunately (and not unsurprisingly), he didn't ask it.
I thought King treated Warren with kid gloves, actually, and was too fair to McCain, leaving out the "$5 million" part of McCain's answer from the clip to the "what is rich?" question.
I was worried that McCain suddenly grew a brain.
But I guess he was just parroting the talking points he was fed before he went on.
McCain is a fraud. Period.
Joe Biden, Please come on board and BEAT THE CRAP out of Cranky old McSAME. He is like an irritating mosquito buzzing around your head while trying to sleep, you just can't quite slap it down.
I swear, if this empty shell of a man gets into the WH, America is toast.
By 2012, there may not be any country left to save.